Greer, oic of the general work detail. Id like to recognize officer Michael Grande for his dedication and professionalism of the general work detail. Officer grande has over 18 years of service with the San FranciscoPolice Department since the general work detail was reestablished in march of 2022. Officer grande has been the sole video retrieval officer for and worked hundreds of complex cases as Video Evidence has become increasingly critical for successful prosecution of cases and is frequently the only evidence to identify perpetrators of crimes. This evidence is fleeting and is often retained for as little as one week due to data storage constraints of many systems. Office ser grande has routinely made himself available at hours beyond his normal schedule to obtain his evidence in a timely manner. The officer grande is one of only five members of the sfpd to have completed an intensive week long course on forensic video retrieval and analysis through viva. In addition to the Technical Expertise required to digitally retrieve footage and reliably testify in court, the ability to positively engage the stakeholders that own or manage the video equipment is essential. Officer grande has an exceptional ability to positively interact with people of all backgrounds. Hes familiar with the points of contact out of hundreds of businesses throughout the city. Hes established relationship with these parties and is thats allowed for a more timely release of footage for investigations and to cite just one example of a case during fleet week of 2022, a merchant mariner from the Pacific Northwest was found unconscious in the north beach neighborhood. There were no witnesses present to explain the injuries. Officers completed an initial report for the aided case, not knowing if a crime had occurred. That report was reviewed by Sergeant Spagnolo of general work, who suspected that the mariner was possibly a victim of an assault officer grande was tasked with attempting to locate any possible surveillance footage. This required him to work well outside his normal work hours as most establishments in that neighborhood were evening venues unavailable during normal business hours. He worked for multiple days to track down video system managers of multiple businesses and retrieve footage that led him to believe an assault had taken place based on the multiple parties involved in varying directions of travel, he continued to coordinate with additional businesses for more footage. The victims condition continued to deteriorate in the icu as the investigation continued, officer grande was able to put together images from multiple sources to cover the full sequence of events and identify a suspect and vehicle. Sadly, the victim ultimately succumbed to his injuries. Our homicide unit took over the investigation in utilizing the Video Evidence compiled by officer grande. Eventually, an arrest was made for the homicide due to officer grandes timely and diligent work on the case, bringing closure to that victims family. Officer grande works tirelessly to locate Critical Evidence of Violent Crimes. While doing so, he consistently forms positive relationships with merchants and residents of the city. He has a wealth of knowledge in his specialty and readily helps other members of the department with video retrieval. Hes hes a great representative of the San FranciscoPolice Department and exemplifies the best attributes of a San Francisco cop. San Francisco Police department recognizes officer Michael Grande, star number three. Oh two of the Investigations Bureau general work detail as officer of the week. In recognition of your dedication and professionalism, demonstrate through Outstanding Community policing practices and inspiring greatness by exemplifying the ideals of Police Officers as guardians of our community. Such an example of dedication is worthy of the highest esteem by the city and county of San Francisco and the San FranciscoPolice Department. Thank you, officer grande. I just want to say on behalf of the Police Department, thank you for your work. I know a lot of what you do behind the scenes and the helping to put these investigations together and getting the evidence that we need to hold people accountable sometime goes unnoticed. And it its an honor for your oic to honor you. And we really celebrate the work that you do because it goes unnoticed sometimes. I know you probably hear from your. Squad, but i think the public should hear and does hear all the great work that you do. So thank you very much. Thank you so much, officer. Grande, for your service to the city. On behalf of the whole commission. And like chief scott for your hard work that that doesnt always necessarily get the praise that it deserves or the attention that it deserves. I did want no pressure, but i did want to invite you if you wanted to, to say a few words. The microphone is certainly, certainly yours. If youd like to say something. Im not much of a talker, but i do want to say thank you. Appreciate it very much. Thanks. Now shake your hands, sir. Yes . I didnt meet you. Yes. Thank you for commissioner yee. Thank you very much. There i just want to say to officer grande, congratulate us and thank you for your hard work and long hours and dedication in keeping us safe. Thank you. Commissioner walker. Not to repeat it, but thank you so much, officer grande, for your service. Congratulation is. Im sorry. The members of the public would like to make Public Comment regarding line item one please approach the podium. And there is no Public Comment line item two general Public Comment at this time. The public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on tonights agenda, but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the Police Commission under Police Commission. Rules of order during Public Comment. Neither police or epa personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the public, but may provide a brief response. Alternatively you may submit Public Comment on either the following ways. Email the secretary of the Police Commission at sfpd commission at sf gov. Org or written comments may be sent via Us Postal Service to the Public Safety building located at 1245 third street, San Francisco, california. 94158. If youd like to make Public Comment, please approach the podium. All youre doing. Mad max is going to be a follow up from what i said this morning. A shift you saw me earlier is going to be important for you all. Im serious. Remember something. Please never forget it. Please. That you own yourself. You own yourself. If its your private property so you dont touch any crap coming to your private property. Okay its important because its your reason for being. Its. Its about your happiness. It works for you to write. It works for everybody. So you private your. Your your. You protect your private property. So now is the time to do it even more than before because basically your private property is under attack. Dont pretend you dont know because it is the facts. So the police does his best. I guess according to the his field of activity. But basically it applies to all of us, right . You own yourself. So everything that comes you have to stay open. We have to stay open. We dont live on a deserted island. We live in society. So we stay open. But when you see that something is coming to you that is not working in your own best interest, you say, stop. Thats it, right . Everything is going to be fine. Then. Hello, my name is jennifer wagoner. Ive been authorized on behalf of the league of women voters of San Francisco to provide Public Comment for them tonight. You received an email from our president , alison goh today, and it says, in january of this year, the Police Commission voted in favor of department general order 9. 07, a comprehensive policy to prohibit racially biased traffic stops in San Francisco. Over seven months later, the policy is still in. Meet and confer. So why is dgo 9. 07 still in . Meet and confer seven months later . Each time the Police Commission meets and does not bring the policy back for final approval, it allows harm against communities of color to continue. Meet and confer has been going on for months with plenty of time to Reach Agreement and move forward. The league of women voters of San Francisco is asking you to bring dgo 9. 07 back to the next Police Commission meeting. Wed like transparency and accountability. Thank you. Hi. I had no agenda to speak tonight except i would actually like to speak to that. Sb 50 just failed at and sb 50 is legislation done by legislators and thats who does legislating. So bringing back that dgo would be an end run against legislation and we are all mindful of these types of traffic stops and nobody is in agreement that racially motivated traffic stops should happen in. However, for example, im a clinical social worker and i know that there are multiple ways you can attack a problem. For example, if a certain demographic is being pulled over on a certain part of town and it is higher than any other demographic for broken tail lights, maybe we fix that situation. Maybe its economic, maybe theres not a place close by. I there are many ways to look at this. But it does need to be looked at. Its just not your place to do it. This you are not legislators. And if it fails, sb 50 failed and that is where it was supposed to not fail. If it wasnt going to. So i would say i disagree with this person. I agree with her in spirit. I agree with the idea that we have to do something about it racially motivated stops. But i dont believe thats the answer. And i certainly dont believe this commission is authorized to override state legislation that has failed. Thank you. Good evening. Thank you for the opportunity. I dont know if there are more effective channels for this proposal. If there are, i hope someone can direct me to them after i make my comment. But id like to propose that we try to bring more civility back to our public discourse. Dis agreement, even wild disagreement is a part of life. But arguments can be advanced using logic and discussion. And id love to see this Commission Set some basic guidelines to promote respectful discourse. So, for example, no screaming or swearing and id know people who dont live in San Francisco. This is our community. These are our community meetings. Thats thats what these commissions is. The board of supervisors is the committees. Thats for the people of San Francisco. This is our town hall. This is our opportunity to speak and be heard. And i and i do not think people from other jurisdictions should be weighing in on San Francisco matters. So im sure there are other channels where this should be discussed. But i wanted to raise it. I want it on the record. I i am tired of attending meetings where there are people screaming and swearing. We need to try to have civility. Not that kind of treatment and disrespect. But thank you. Okay. First, id like to say there is no such thing as a as a racially directed traffic traffic stop. Police have to do their job. They they must investigate any kind of thing concerning the traffic and speeding and all that kind of stuff. They have a feeling and a hunch that something going on they have they have a lot of motivations. And believe me, Police Officers do not spend their precious time targeting racial groups is okay. Police officers get up every morning. They put on their uniforms. They enter the world and spend maybe 10 to 12 hours, i guess, a day fighting for us all. They do nothing but risk their lives every theyre sitting ducks. And i do not think its right for anybody. Anybody to criticize a Police Officer. Do you understand Police Officers live and die for us . Do you hear me . Okay sorry. Anyway i have Something Else to say. Real fast. Oh, by the way, you do not have to Pay Attention to legislation that does not promote the general welfare of the preamble of the constitution. That means anything. Prop 4757, anything you know, involving this and that. You do not have to Pay Attention to it, just overlook it. Nobody can stop you because the police are have Unlimited Power is derived from the Second Amendment of the constitution, which says that the wellregulated militia and the in order to secure the blessing, the security of a free state and the right of people to bear arms, thats to subject to the infringe. And that means that they shall not be limited. You have Unlimited Power, use it. And nobody can challenge it. But ill make this very, very quick. You have. Lots of letters. Thank you. That was the end of the two minutes. Thats the end of the two minutes. Thank you. Yeah, i knew i. Good evening. And i do. There are some. Not all police are bad, but there are some racially profiled. Stopping so i dont agree with you. So. Um, can i use the overhead . I also. I want to thank the chief and all of them for coming out for my sons visual on the 14th. And the chief and sister alberta, an and who else . The robert raurica of the Media Department for coming out on that day. That really means a lot and thank you for doing it as often as youve been doing it. My son was murdered august 14th, 2006. That was itll be 17 years in the 17th anniversary. I bring these names with me every time of the perpetrators who murdered who are caused the calls of murder. And my son, hannibal thomas, paris moffitt, andrew badoo, jason thompson. Thomas Anthony Hunter and Mark S Morris carter. One of them are deceased. One is deceased. Im not sure which one, but hannibal and paris moffitt are still out, probably murdering more people. They were the two main people. So again, i just dont fight for my son. Theres other unsolved homicides. Im talking about all the unsolved homicides, and im still thinking if there is a way to pay tipsters. Did were you able to hire anyone, a new person to come in and investigates all these homicides . And this is me standing over my son. No mother wants to do this. This is what the perpetrators left me. A corpse, my beautiful son laying on a corpse on the table. I wish i had more time to talk. Next item, please, sergeant. Line item three, chief support discussion, weekly crime trends and Public Safety concerns provide an overview of offenses, incidents or events occurring in San Francisco have an impact on Public SafetyCommission Discussion on unplanned events and activities. The chief describes will be limited to determining whether the calendar for future meeting chief scott. Good afternoon, sergeant youngblood. Present Vice President and acting president carter overstone commission and public. Ill be brief with my report tonight. Just starting off with an overview of the crime trends. The overall the were down 3 in part one crimes and the split on that is 4 reduction in property crime. 3 increase in Violent Crime in terms of the homicide, the homicides year to date, we have a total of 40. We had two over the weekend. Both shootings and no suspects in custody on those particular shootings. However, we are still doing well with our clearance rate. So our homicide investigators are working very hard. Were in excess of 70 on the clearance rates with some cases that are close, hopefully to being cleared. In terms of the trends that were seeing, street robberies is a trend that were very concerned about. Were up a little bit over just under 300 robberies year to date , which is a 16 increase. And many of those robberies are armed robberies. We have had made some significant arrests with some very violent armed robbers, but much work needs to be done. There and in terms of gun violence, were up 4 year to date. Gun violence related to homicides. We are even with where we were this time last year and the seizure of guns continues to be one of our focus focus areas. And we are are a little below where we were this time last year with the seizure of guns and a little bit below the ghost gun seizures. This time last year. But well continue to focus on that. A couple of i mentioned the homicides that were reported over the weekend. One that i want to talk about is on the unit block of James Brenner in the tenderloin, right. Right across the block here by un plaza. This happened on 917 at 1030. Im sorry it happened at 916 at 9 15 p. M, but the victim unfortunately passed away. The next day at 10 43 a. M. The scenario was the subject walked up jones street from golden gate and fired two rounds at a group of individuals standing on the unit block of jones. One victim was struck in the chest and the second victim was struck in the leg. Both victims were transported, one in Critical Condition. The victim in Critical Condition passed away from his injuries. We have not made an arrest on that particular case. We are following up on leads and the homicide investigators will continue to work that case. And ill keep the commission and the public posted on the development on that case. The other homicide over the weekend was. On nine over 17 at 200 and 3 a. M. This was in the twin peaks area. Twin peaks, dew point, the victim was in a vehicle when a suspect pulled alongside the victim. The victim exited his vehicle and walked over toward the suspect, at which time he was shot. Once in the upper body. Suspect fled from the location in in his own vehicle and the victim was transported and died from his injuries. The following day at 2 p. M. No arrests have been made in that particular case as well. Investigators are following up on leads to the public. If you have any information that will lead to the apprehension of the individual or individuals involved in these two homicides or any other crimes for that matter, please call 415 a5754444. The information can be kept anonymous if you wish to do that. But we do need the publics help on those particular crimes. There were two shootings also in outside of those homicides, one in the 700 block of missouri and another on jones street in the tenderloin. And they both happened that same weekend. And we had some significant arrests that i want to talk about. One involved a robbery and serial auto burglary crew with firearms. This was on september 14th at 9 24 a. M. The incident happened on the 600 block of harrison, a robbery with a gun occurred on the 600 block of harrison, in which subjects pointed a gun at two victims demanding their belongings. The subject fled in a vehicle. A Department Wide email was issued with the description of the vehicle later in the day. Multiple calls for service were broadcast in the japantown area regarding a vehicle matching the description from the one in the earlier robbery and that same vehicle was seen casing, leaving to be casing to burglarized vehicles in the area of japantown. Our plainclothes Team Officers conducted an auto burglary abatement slash robbery abatement and located the vehicle at 19th. And mission surveillance was was conducted in an attempt to coordinate a safe arrest. Spike strips were deployed to deescalate the situation. However, the vehicle fled. San francisco sheriffs followed basically the suspects this turned into a pursuit. Thats why the spike strips were deployed. The chp became involved. The vehicle became disabled and the pursuit terminated it on south bound 101 at vermont street, three suspects fled in unto the freeway and two of them were located and taken into custody on deharo street. The third subject fled into the building at 17th and san bruno. A search was conducted and the third subject was located and taken into custody. Also, a firearm was recovered from the vehicle as well as property belonging to the robbery victim from the earlier robbery. So this was a really good, coordinated effort. I really want to commend our our plainclothes units and our uniform officers that were involved in this chp sheriffs became involved and good collaboration in there. But these were some very violent individuals. They are in custody. And our folks did a good job in putting that case together and catching them before they hurt somebody else and robbed somebody else. The second arrest was a attempted robbery on 917 at 6 17 p. M. At the 900 block of Market Street central Central District station, officers responded to a robbery in and an attempted robbery with a gun while dispatch was broadcast in the vehicle. Description officers from the tenderloin night Violence Reduction unit team that is the Team Commissioner burn that is actually 1 in 8. Thats now working at night time to address the some of the issues in the tenderloin. At any rate, they observed the vehicle at eighth and natoma became engaged in a pursuit. The vehicle fled across the bay bridge with officers following once in oakland, all four suspects abandoned the vehicle and ran in Different Directions with the assistance of outside agencies, several outside agencies. Two of the subjects, including a 17 year old, were located and taken into custody. An additional subject juvenile was taken into custody at an apartment complex in the city of oakland. One of the subjects remains outstanding, and that investigation is still ongoing. So, again, a really good observation by the patrol officers. These are the officers that we deployed a week, two weeks ago to deal with some of the nighttime issues that in the tenderloin. And its great that they were in the right place at the right time to make this multi arrest of armed robbers. We did not get the gun as of yet, but we did make the arrest. So lets see. Just the last thing that ill report. The efforts continue on the fentanyl seizures in the tenderloin and soma with our drug market Coordination Center since the inception on there have been over over 1100 arrests in total, the majority of those are for possession for sales. Of those three, 92 were for either public use or public intoxication. But again, a lot of coordination working with multiple agencies and city entities. We still have our Service Providers on board in this in this column, aberration public health, public works, homelessness, Supportive Housing and the Human Services agency. So the work continues on that. And the strategy will be to, of course, take as much fentanyl as we can off the streets, hold the account to account the drug dealers, and we have vastly increased the number of drug dealing arrests year to date over this time last year. So more to report as this continues to flush out. But we are still committed to changing the narrative of the open air drug market and the tenderloin, especially on the sales side. And that is my report for the week. Thank you for the report, chief. Just one question for me. I think it was a couple of weeks ago, my colleague, commissioner byrne, asked you about the officer whos alleged to have have sexual relationship with a confidential informant. And commissioner byrne asked if the department would make public the to basically the scope of the consequences of those allegations in terms of the number of cases as criminal cases that have been affected. And i ask about this because there is a new article about that case published today and i just wanted to follow up to see if and when the department would be responding to that request. There are i havent seen an article, commissioner, but there are some issues. I actually was in training last week, but i planned tonight to have a conversation with commissioner byrne about that. You know, we do have the information, but it is a part of that investigation which is still ongoing. So at this time i wont be able to release that information at and well have a private time if they want to have a romance with somebody, thats okay. Well, advise the commissioner more on the details. All right. I look forward to that. Advise me. And i certainly understand that the department could not turn over the facts that were part of an ongoing investigation. But at the same time, at least as i understood the request, it was items that would not be part of the investigation, just the public consequences of cases that were affected. So that the public could have an understanding of the scope of the fallout. Thats all not not anything confidential, but it sounds like the department is working on it. And well let us know. Yes, thank you. Thank you. Commissioner yanez. Thank you, Vice President carter oberstein. Good evening, chief and community. I do want to say happy latino independent or latino heritage month. And my question is, im just following up on some previous us requests for information. I believe the last time you were here, you were going to get some information regarding what it what it will take for those young people who were in the hill bomb and had their charges dropped to have their records cleared. And i dont believe the information was available last week. Do you have that . So we did follow up on that. So the juvenile records in which, you know, i think the public knows, but are highly protected by law in this case, the kids that were arrested on misdemeanor only cases were not idd. They were not processed. There were no mug shots, no fingerprints. They were cited, however, and we have been in contact with juvenile probation. Who has the responsibility to seal the records as required by law on misdemeanor cases . If and when it probably win more than if the records are sealed. Sfpd is notified and takes the appropriate action to seal those records. However this sealing of the records is done and ordered by jpd. So we have been in touch with them and at this point its really the ball is in jpds court in terms of sealing of the records. And well well comply when those orders are given. And so there is no mechanism for the Police Department to refer move those records once they have been once those charges have been dropped. Youre saying its completely in the juvenile Probation Departments jurisdiction . My understanding is that then it is actually up to the individuals to petition the court to have those charges or those records removed through the clean slate program. And thats really an arduous process. Its unfortunate for those families because cause they will have to go through that process. Yes. And we know that its a time consuming and very you know, unfortunate consequence for young people who ultimately didnt even commit a crime. It sounds like. So thats thats really disappointing to hear. But i will follow up. I have a meeting with the juvenile Probation Commission president in the next couple of weeks. So i want to i will follow up with her and bring a report to see if theres any way that the department itself can remove those records. Because as far as i understand, that is not the procedure. For i was just and i think i said this was just to clarify, they were cited, you know, these kids, at least on the misdemeanors. So this information is not in any of their rap sheets because those cases have not been processed. Those citations have not been processed and pushed forward by juvenile probation. So they may they juvenile probation made the announcement that these cases will not be pursued and so as far as the citation itself is not theyre not going anywhere. So theres no rap sheet attached to those citations at all. Great. Great so then at that point, those that do that were pursued. That is in the realm of the District Attorneys Office and the juvenile Probation Department on the felonies. Yes. The District Attorneys Office, the misdemeanors are still in the realm of juvenile probation. I dont know. So if any of the misdemeanors are actually Going Forward, i know we do have some felonies that are Going Forward, but i dont believe that any of the misdemeanor are. Got it. Thank you. The other question was about the draft. You know, thank you for responding to an email i sent out to request that information in that email chain. I was told that the draft would be available on the 15th after some of the reorganization and ive still not received it. Its the 20th. Is there a new update on that . I will follow up right now. Ill follow up right now. So we do owe you a draft and if you hadnt gotten it, i will follow up. Great. Thank you. Appreciate that. Those are my questions. Commissioner byrne. Thank you. Vice president carter overstone. Chief in regards to the dolores hill, were the juveniles fingerprinted and no. So then theyre they werent, but then there was nothing to turn over to the California Department of justice, right . The misdemeanors were not fingerprinted. There were there were some felony arrests, though, right. But as regards to misdemeanors. So those prints werent turned over to the department of justice, hence they werent turned over to the fbi. Correct. So effectively, theyre clean. Correct. Thank you. Sergeant, could you take us to Public Comment . Members of the public would like to make Public Comment regarding line item three, the chiefs report. Please approach the podium. And there is no Public Comment. Line item four directors report discussion report on recent activities and announcements. Commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for future Commission Meeting. Acting executive director rosenstein. This. Time okay, sorry. Good evening, Vice President carter, oberstein commissioners chief scott. My name is diana rosenstein. I am the legal team manager at the department of Police Accountability and im sitting in on behalf of our executive director, paul henderson. I have some weekly trends to share with you with respect to what the dpa has been up to in the last several weeks since our cases continue to trend up. In other words, we currently have more cases open this year than we did last year. We have cases that are our closure rate is down very slightly from 543 at the same time last year versus now. We do have more cases pending and we have sustained less than last year, nine less than last year at this time. We have had a number of cases mediate. And so our Mediation Program is going well and doing a very good job at getting cases, disposition favorable disposition in those cases. And we have fairly the same number of cases passed the 270 mark, which is the mark in the charter by which we are to let chief scott know if some of our cases will be sustained and may take longer for investigation. Currently we have seven cases pending with you all, i believe one is in closed session today and we have currently 86 cases pending with the chief at all Different Levels. Whether were requesting him to make a decision with respect to discipline or they are pending with the chief for purposes of the appellate process last week in terms of the type of cases we receive, 24, we received 13 cases last week. The number one allegation was neglect of duty, meaning that our civilian complainants have complained about officers failing to take some type of required action. And with respect to the second and third, most complained about conduct that tied for second place is conduct and becoming an officer. In other words, the officer behaved or spoke inappropriately and unwarranted action. The officer conducted an improper search or seizure. Again these are just brand new allegations. Those are cases that we will be investigating and eventually coming to some sort of disposition, total allegations that came into our office this week is 29. In terms of outreach. We have a we are Going Forward with a Mediation Forum and we are going to have a full house. Were excited to share more about mediation an it is going to be on october third at 12 p. M. At 188 embarcadero. And in terms of audit for the misconduct audit has received the last round of independent review notes back from the comptrollers office. Once weve addressed the notes and made the necessary edits. Steve flaherty, who is in charge of our Award Winning audit department, paul, makes me say that well have a draft copy of the report for the Police Department for review and eventually for you all to review today with me is senior investigator candace carpenter. She can help anybody that is in the audience that has any questions or concerns about dpa. As always, we can be reached by phone or via email or and our information is published on the world wide web. Our website is sf gov. Org backslash mta. Or you can google us and our phone number. Is 415 a2417711. And im free to answer any questions you may have. Commissioner benedicto. Yes, thank you, Vice President carter humberstone. Thank you for that report. Director rosenstein, is there a reason why there have been. There was a significant jump in the cases mediated from last year to this year that you can identify. I believe that there were several complainants that had several cases that were very similar in nature and finally agreed to participate in the Mediation Program. Um, and, and because of that, theres been a bit of a jump. I think theres also been a robust outreach to the community and to our complaints. And i think were doing a much better job of explaining the Mediation Program, not just to the complainants, but to the officers and the parties option is going up, which i think benefits everybody because of the nature of the mediation process. Maam, perfect. Thank you for that. I a lot of cases for the for the mediators to handle. And i know ive met with the mediators who are fantastic. So kudos to them for handling that increased caseload. And if you wanted commission participation at that mediation event youre holding, id be happy to attend. Absolutely i will definitely make sure that they send you an invitation. Perfect. Thank you. Seeing no other names, sergeant, could you take us to Public Comment for members of the public would like to make Public Comment regarding line item for the directors report, please approach the podium. And there is no Public Comment. Line item five commission reports, discussion and possible Action Commission reports will be limited to a brief description of activities and announcements. Commission Commission Discussion will be limited to determining whether the calendar, any of the issues raised for a future Commission MeetingCommission President s report commissioners reports and commission announcements and schedule of items identified for consideration at a future Commission Meeting. Commissioner walker. Thank you. I just want to say i went to a town hall and the tenderloin that supervisor kaiser dorsey put together for to hear from the community in district six. And i think captain martin was there, the district attorney. The supervisor, several of the departments and it was packed. It was the act theater was totally packed with folks and it was it was generally supportive of what were doing in the tenderloin. So i just i want to say that the work thats happening down there is really making a difference. The issues are real. I just say i walked over there from my house, so i went up seventh street and walked by two different cpr delivery. Its a its really a hard place over there. So the people are the public are are ready for real solutions. And i just want to thank the department for captain martin being there. Its really important to hear from folks and to really get the input about from the people who live in these districts where the issues are. So it can help us out on the street. So thats kind of all i wanted to check in. And welcome back. I know you were at the sojourn trip, the sojourn trips that the chief just took, i think 70 people on this time or it was the largest one, are Pretty Amazing because they really do give you a sense of our history in a real way. And i went on it myself when i first got on the commission. And it it really it changed me. And ive seen it change, change. I think everybody that goes on that trip is really changed. And thats the kind of thats the kind of change we need. So thank you again for working on those. Commissioner benedicto. Thank you. Vice president carter oberstein a couple of updates from me. Last week i had the privilege of attending the 279th Academy PoliceAcademy Graduation class, keeping my streak of all Academy Graduation since i was appointed. Um, it was. It was a tough ticket to get, but im happy that acting chief lozar got me there. It was held at the lake merced boathouse, which was a really nice, intimate venue. And allowed me to spend a bit of time getting to talk to the recruits after. So congratulations to that class and thank you for letting me attend. Um this week ill be meeting with gpas Award Winning audit team in my capacity as our our audit liaison. So look forward to updating my colleagues on how on updates from the audit team as that goes forward. Um chief, i wanted to echo, i meant to put myself in the queue and chief supports, but ill mention it here. Ill echo the same request that commissioner yanez had for an update on on 7. 01. I know we had a really tremendous working group with some engaged community members. I see we have our our executive sponsor for that group here today. And deputy chief moran, my favorite executive sponsor. But and so i think that for the commission and for the community, an update on that draft would be much appreciated. And finally, i, i spent some time this week looking at the Public Comments we received on the status of 9. 07. I think is wagner and the league of women voters for raising that as well as mr. Cox from the public defenders office, from raising its last week. Um, you know, while the commission cant comment on things that are happening in terms of labor negotiations, know that the comments are being heard and the Commission Hears and appreciates them, id also note for members of the public that that for the first time, possibly in its history, the commission has been updating in its from closed session non privileged factual updates from the negotiations. So theres more transparency around this process than has been in the past. So im grateful for that. But do want to thank the members of the public who sent in written comments whove come the last couple of weeks. We hear you, you know, this, the final version of this was adopted, unanimous by this commission, something of which im very proud and we all look forward to getting it over the finish line. Thank you. Commissioner yanez. Thank you, Vice President carter , ulverstone. Quick report. Uh, just coordinating calendars to try to get a meeting with the youth commission. Were in contact with them to try to see how they can support or what their thoughts are around the prebooking program that we want to initiate, but also coordinating with, uh, supervisor ronans office and the Mayors Office to make sure that as many partners as possible are in support of this effort and as i mentioned, i will be meeting with the juvenile Probation Commission president Margaret Brodkin in the next couple of weeks to also figure out how the juvenile Probation Department can help us advance this effort. Um, i we had calendar use of force last week and the presentation was very different. Chief but i did ask acting chief lazarre about the use of force number that had come up a few weeks ago in an article all around the increase in the disproportionate minority contacts in the Fourth Quarter of last year where it seems that there were, you know 25 to 1 increase use or up to 25 to 1 when it came to those use of force numbers. And i just wanted to see if you had any comments on what impacted or what contributed to that increase in use of force. Were talking about last year. This year or last year or last years use of force numbers. Over the previous year, it was the court is the Fourth Quarter. That was the quarter three increase from in quarter three, it was 11 to 1 African American versus white people being who had use of force, alleged against them. And in quarter four, it went to 25 to 1 in the Fourth Quarter of last year. And when the information was presented to us that that graph was admitted and it was a little bit concerning that such an increase was not necessarily discussed or that that information wasnt provided to us so that we could digest it and try to figure out what the concern or what the issue is. Yeah, i mean, i have some anecdotal insights in terms of the issues, but i would ask to actually come back with with more indepth look at this. I mean, i know the use of force numbers are up over all because of the reporting changes. And most of those use of force is or were in that lower tier category. Almost all of them actually were in that lower tier category. But that still doesnt explain totally the why behind this. So i would like to go in more detail with that, but id love if we could agendize it and actually speak to that specific topic because like i said last time, it was agendized and it just went in a different direction, so that would be great. I also would you clarify for us how many sworn staff were at sojourn last week . 36. There were 36 sworn staff at sojourn. Yeah, and i did. And i will put it in writing that i do want to have a conversation about how how we are measuring sojourns impact. I mean we ask about every one of our efforts, right . Whether its policing in the tenderloin. And i know that sojourn has been going on for a couple of years. Its a major investment when we are not when we dont have 36 officers available. Right. For a week, especially with the staffing shortages that we are experiencing. And so id like to get a better sense of the tangible impact that this is having on our department. Especially consider some of the concerns with disproportionate use of force and minority context. So i will be requesting that we have a good concentrated conversation on that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, sergeant. Members of the public would like to make Public Comment regarding the commission reports. Please approach the podium. If you would like to make Public Comment regarding the commission reports, you may speak five seconds. Im working with if you would like to make Public Comment, you need to approach the podium. You have two minutes to speak on line item five. Im working with the fbi and the marshals to create, among other things, to create a task force for the police force to ensure that their supervised orders do not criticize them and hold them responsible for making mistakes when they are their human beings. The really angels from heaven, but theyre in the human condition. And like all of us and we have to give them a break. We need a task force and in order to make the task force, we have to have a Police Officer that i know, john van cole at. And definitely we need desperately we need chief scott and we need a one of the other agents who will represent the fbi based ethically. We have to create a system of checks and balances in order to not scare the public when were asserting our power over the Second Amendment, power. So we create a checks and balances where each each agency watches over the other. And in order to have, for example, the fbi, in order to have the marshals, believe it or not, the fbi works for the marshals. They work for the marshals. So we have in order to make sure the marshals dont dominate either the police or the fbi, we need we need basically we need two of these agents to work along with the head of the marshals. So thats i took all my time. In other words, we desperately need a task force, okay . And we need chief scott to run the whole thing for a national a National Task force. Please okay. Will you do that . Can somebody raise their hand and say, yes, we will do that . Well, if you dont, im going to make it happen. Okay thank you. Yes, i like to comment on the on the sojourner trip as a advocate and a Community Person that trip changed my life. Its not even most of that stuff is not even in the history books. And it gave me a new respect on on nonviolence to with Martin Luther king and all of the damer family, all of that, how they got justice. It was intense and it was very emotional and id i would do it again. I would go on that trip again in just to learn more. Theres more to it than just what we went to the Legacy Museum and to the Martin Luther king, where the hotel where he was murdered and just all the other places. I am so glad that i wasnt alone and that, you know, it was it wasnt scary or anything. I think a lot of community people, apple and more police need to go on that trip to be culturally sensitive to what happened to us. And our ancestors back then, how they were kicked and beaten and water hosed. The children, four year old babies as this is happening today. So whatever we can do to teach people back from the past till now, they need to go on this trip. Thats all i need to say. And that is the end of Public Comment. Sergeant, could we please call item eight out of order, please . Line item eight discussion and possible action on Police Commission resolution. Police commission interprets its general orders to permit the preemptive use of tire deflation devices, discussion and possible action. So a couple of weeks ago, we had a presentation from the department on ego 5. 01 use of force and some proposed amendments which my colleagues ultimately endorsed unanimously. The amendments set forth, i think, some pretty reasonable and sensible guidelines on the preemptive use of spike strips. However, months ago the department made the unilateral decision to suspend the use the preemptive use of spike strips pending the amendments to our policy. And i dont agree with with that decision. We heard from the department. We heard from lieutenant jonas about the incredible effectiveness of this Law Enforcement tool in the 15 months prior to its suspension. It was deployed 46 times, resulted in 82 arrests, 31 guns off of the street, roughly 360 cases closed. And the only downside was a single minor injury. So and not even part of those numbers, not even captured , is the fact that if officers cant deploy spike strips preemptively, then they might have to engage in a car chase, which poses pretty substantial risks to the public. And the officer. So tonight, the commission is going to vote on a resolution which would interpret its own policies to permit the preemptive use of spike strips. And so what this would do is just restore the status quo. Officers could continue to use spike strips preemptively as they had been using them before they were suspended by the department and during however long it takes to finish the amendments to the 5. 1 through the meet and confer process and to train officers and so on. Throughout all of that time, the officers will continue to be able to use spike strips as they always have been. I think that there are sometimes criticism of this commission that we unduly restrict what officers in the field can do. So ill just say that i think that its our duty to use evidence to make decisions and set policy. And in this case, the evidence is pretty overwhelming that preemptive use of spike strips is incredibly effective. Tool that officers should be able to deploy and frankly, should have been able to deploy this entire time. I think in the future, if there is an issue like this, i would love if the department didnt make a decision in a silo to suspend a Law Enforcement tool like this. They can always consult the City Attorney if there is a legal question, they can always consult the commission. If there is a policy question, because i do think that this was in a large sense, avoidable. But with that, its been ive appreciated working with the department and epa and my fellow commissioners on this , and i do appreciate that the department, ive been told, will be supporting this. So thank you , chief scott. Thank you, commissioner. I just want to put on the record just a couple of things. First of all, the president of the commission was consulted on this and consulted and the Department Offers some recommendations of how to quickly remedy this issue. I know theres differences of opinion on whether the policy actually allows for preemptive use of the spike strips. But i just want to the point here is that the president was consulted and ultimately after the department made some recommendations, she did assign commissioner benedicto to work with the department as well as epa to quickly offer the commission the changes that were eventually brought forth with 5. 01. The other thing i will say is i definitely thank you for and the commission for quickly resolve at least the 5. 15. 01 and approving that. I know that still has to go through the process of meet and confer. But i want to thank the commission for that. There is no disagreement about the issue of whether this tool can is and can be a valuable tool to give us the ability to better deal with some of what were facing with these car burglaries and the like. No disagreement with that. What i would ask this commission, if this passes and i do support the use of this as quickly as we can do it. However i want to issue some guidance because as the policy is written, there is not guidance on preemptive use and thats part of the issue here. You know, we want to make sure that officers, when they use it, are protected. Weve had some really good success in the in the ones that we have used, but there is no written guidance on this. So we want to make sure that our officers arent left hanging out to dry. If the worst Case Scenario happens. And the results are not the outcomes that we desire. And thats where the guidance will come into play. It will be consistent with what the commission has already seen. It will be a Department Wide guidance. But i want to make sure that im transparent about that because a lot of the people in this room have worked on that. The language is already there. We just need to tell our officers generally what what what the guidance is on on how and when we can use this. So i would ask the commission to formally okay. That but i think its necessary. And i do think you, commissioner carter, riverstone, our Vice President and the commission, for quickly trying to put these this this valuable tool back in our hands. Great. Thank you, chief. I certainly dont have any objection to the department issuing a Additional Guidance in the future. And if the commission needs to take up that issue to authorize it in the future, i certainly support that. Commissioner benedicto, thank you. Vice president carter overstone thank you, chief. I i as you stated after the department had paused its use, i was assigned to be the commissioner to help work on this and was is was glad to able to work on it was disappointed that i missed the vote but was happy to see my fellow commissioners vote unanimously and would have happily happily joined them. I do want to clarify at least from my perspective, i was assigned to be the commissioner to work on the tire deflation devices after the department made the decision to pause the deployment and we worked through the summer on the revisions of 5. 01. Im glad that i was talking to the chief before this. I think this is a great example of not choosing one or the other, but both this commission, both acted decisively to adopt the revision to 5. 01, but is also taking this additional step to ensure that there really is no delay and unnecessary delay in in providing this tool to our officers who have used it effectively for the last 18 months. I want to thank Vice President carter auberson for this resolution. I think its a its a creative way to ensure that this tool is back in our officers hands quickly and efficiently. And im glad to see the department supported like i said, i think this is a great a good example of working to ensure that the commission is providing evidence based tools that are effective to our officers. So thank you to Vice President carter auberson and to the department. I likewise would not object to any guidance being issued after in the wake of this resolution and so with that, ill also move to adopt the resolution. Commissioner walker. Yeah, i just i have a question because i. I think its your job to run the department. And when you run into issues, its your job to do what you did. It is important that we communicate about this stuff. And i appreciate that you talked to the president and that we then initiated the process for amending. Is it going to be a problem to have a deja vu that youve amended . And then we resolve to amend again . It seems im im just asking that question because i as i said last meeting, i went to the onboarding of the new policy writing group and we were going over the dgo for writing dgos and it was head spinning. How contrary victory it was and how unclear it was about a lot of things. And i just i think part of the issue is that im hearing from officers, im hearing from the public that maybe officers dont act because theyre turned around in circles by by this kind of stuff. So would it be your your preference to wait until we get the dgo properly reviewed and amended or as opposed to doing a resolution on top of your edit, on top of our dgo commissioner, i dont mean to confuse people. Yeah, no, thank you. And thats a thats a really great question. I i would like to get this tool in the hands of officers as quickly as possible, but i dont want to confuse the officers. And the point is, the guidance that im talking about would be consistent with with the procedures that the commission has already voted to approve, and not, if that makes sense to you. So basically, were going back to the original dgo with the amended changes, you know, just guidance on because we dont have any written guidance on preemptive use. I see. So just and thats what the revisions in the dgo speak to is preemptive use. You know, not after a pursuit, but to prevent a pursuit. So we do have protocols laid out in that in the dgo that the Commission Approved and the thought and plan is to just make sure officers have the guidelines on how this can be used. So they are they are we stand behind them in the event that it doesnt go perfectly well. You know, i think one of the things that make officers hesitate is they want to know that i, as the chief of police and this commission will stand behind them if they do the job the way theyve been asked to do it. Absolutely. I think thats a fair ask. Yeah. So but if theres nothing there for them to latch on to, then theyre kind of out there. So the, the, the director or the amendments that came are Going Forward and youre going to be using those in combination with this to retrain or reinforce, just make sure we have the training and the protocols in place. Perfect thats helpful. Thank you. Thank you, commissioner. Ye thank you very much. Vice president carter. I just want to thank commissioner benedicto for working on this addition to the. 5. 1 regarding the use of force and the data shows that this does this is one of the tools for officers to use to deescalate the situation, to apprehend suspects and actually, its keeping us all safe, safer to so i want to thank the working group and the chief and the department for this. I will be supporting this. Thank you. Commissioner yanez. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, its clear from the presentation and from the barrage of emails weve received that the department and staff are support this and the preemptive use has been proven to be successful. The only question i have then, chief, is it sounds like there are either training elements or bureau order elements that that also need to kind of come out to align with this in order for people to understand exactly what the direction is. Would would a delay in implementation action be something that helps you make sure that those things are in place or is it just a matter of rolling things out in a in a sequential manner . Well, the bureau orders that touched upon this, although they werent exactly the same as what the commission passed or expired 2003 when they were being used. You know, there was some training that took place, but there was no overall, you know, written guidance on the parameters as the revision of 5. 01 will will have. So i dont think it would be some of the people that that that have been a part of this discussion. And the training when we were testing this out are very good at what they do. And i dont think it will be an issue for us to just mimic the same guidance thats in the general order. And lets get the business and thats the plan. I just want to make sure that were were supportive and the officers are supported. Thats the main thing , because they are the ones out there taking the risks. So thats thats all. And it sounds like we were good there. Yeah, it sounds i mean, it just seems like a tool that needs to be in place. So im definitely in support of it. And i hope that we move this forward. I did just want to quickly interject to clarify something. So the resolution tonight interprets the dgo that is currently on the books to allow the preemptive use of spike strips. That means if it were to pass tonight, officers could immediately start using spike strips preemptively without any further action by the department or this commission. Now, separately tonight, chief has discussed the prospect of issue being further guidance to officers on how and when to use preemptive spike strips. So i certainly dont object to that, but that is an issue for another day. Its not being voted on right now. Certainly seems reasonable and prudent. But i do want to make clear for officers and members of the public that this resolution is all that is necessary to restore the status quo and for officers to begin using spike strips preemptively. Commissioner byrne. Thank you. Vice president carter. Chief when it was suspended in in may and you made the thing, were you relying on any legal advice for the suspension . We talked to our our Inhouse Legal Team and as well as our policy team on on this. So yes the and then and then then you went to president elias and asked for asked for the clarification or the amendment to the go. Yes well, there were discussions, several discussions about how to proceed with this. All right. And then offered the departments from all the Department People that had weighed in on this. We offer some recommendations on how we felt it could be resolved fairly quickly with 5. 01 revisions. So yes, thank you. Thank you. I just want to be clear on what im asking for and thank you. Heard understand that as of the passage of this resolution, were good to go. The issue still for me is lets give our folks some guidance so if we put out a spike strip and we have a calamity that the officers at least have some guidelines to the parameters. And i think thats a fair process. So the ask is this commission, however, you all vote definitely would appreciate the use of these things. It wont take us, i believe, but a day or two to put out guidance to make sure that the department is on board with the usage of these things because otherwise were still kind of running blind, even though we had a small contingency of officers who understood how to use this thing. Were talking about a Department Wide now usage of these spike strips and thats a whole lot different from a small team that, you know, train and understood understood what the parameters are. So thats what the ask is. So okay, i just want to parse out the various moving pieces here. So were all clear what it sounds like youre saying. Chief is you would like and correct me if i have this wrong, you would like officers not to use spike strips preemptively until youve issued guidance. Is that what youre saying . Yes, im asking to issue guidance, which we will do immediately. All right. So i think this is how how that works with this commission do is doing today is passing a resolution saying there is nothing in our policies of this commission that would prohibit the preemptive use of spike strips as far as the commission is concerned, that that means no officer could be brought up on disciplinary charges solely. Because she deployed spike strips preemptively. That becomes effective. The second we were to, we would pass this resolution. Now chief, youre in charge of deployment and personnel, even even though youre allowed to use spike strips as a matter of law. If you want to tell your officers not to use them, then thats your prerogative. But i do want to just make clear the delineation here. Theres nothing as far as this commissions concerned after tonight. Weve done everything within our power to give this tool back to officers. And if you would like to further delay that, then thats, you know, that the charter gives you that that power. I would just say weve weve been delaying this for months now. And the delay is not costless. Theres suspects who got away. Theres property that was not recovered that might have been recovered. Theres people who got hurt. Um, but as as a member of this commission, i certainly dont presume to be able to tell you how to handle personnel matters. But i do want to make clear to the commission has done after tonight, everything it can possibly do to return this tool to officers and appreciate it and understood. And we will get it in their hands as quickly, within a matter of days. Commissioner walker. So i mean, i, i. I dont want to get ahead of the department on this. So i wonder if we could put an amendment in there that accommodates that. Thats the written directives will will because i, i feel like anything happens in the next two days its going to be the commission against the department. And i, i think two days is a reasonable amount of time to delay, to allow the chief to be comfortable with this. I mean, it got to us in the first place because he was uncomfortable with what the directions were to staff. And so, i mean, im totally supportive of supporting ng, reinforcing what the ego says. But i also want to accommodate the chiefs concern about there not being adequate written directives in the dga. And thats our problem. As much as his. So im you know, is there a way to just put. A 48 hour allowance for the written directives to catch up to this is i just want to clarify because i think theres starting to be confusion here. There is no amendment necessary to accommodate the concern that commissioner walker just expressed. Its just that the commission and the chief have separate powers and duties as the commission is going to make clear. What has always been true and what officers have done for years, which is that under our policies, under 5. 01 and 5. 05, officers may preemptively deploy spike strips. Now, separate from that, the chief is in charge of personnel and the chief can direct his personnel to use or not use certain Law Enforcement tactics. And he does not require any special dispensation from this commission to do that. He has the Charter Authority to do that. So we have we have no authority to encroach on that. So if the chief wants to continue to delay it, he can do that. But whats happening tonight is that the commission is clarifying what again, has always been true, which is that 5. 01 permits the preemptive use of spike strips. So to the extent commissioner walker, you have that concern, theres no need to amend the resolution to accommodate it. Commissioner benedicto yes. To answer your question, commissioner walker. I agree with Vice President carter robertson. I dont think we need to put any explicit like for whatever hours because the chief can choose to instruct the officers to begin deployment at at his discretion as as the head of the department. So if he wants to if its if the if directive is ready in a day or ready in three days, its all of that is authorized. I think, by the resolution. Chief scott, thank you. And again, i dont want to continue to go back and forth on this. I just want to be clear on what im asking and which i think youve already answered this question. Just clear guidance and parameters. And i know policy is policy and i know theres different interpretations, but we also have to worry about it, not just discipline, but civil liability. You know, we have a policy that specific says the way we interpret that from the Police Department is that this device is to be used after a pursuit is initiated. There is supervisory responsibility and it goes on and on. What we are trying to do is make sure that our officers are protect it. The commission has said, you know, charges will be filed. If anything goes wrong. We want to make sure that officers have the parameters of when these can be used for amply simple as that. Im not trying to delay it. I and i wont delay it. Thats fine. Chief, again, we understand youre using the word that the chief is delaying it. I just want to protect this department and protect the officers and give them this tool as quickly as possible with some with some guidance. Understood. All right. Seeing no names in the queue, i will second the motion to adopt the resolution motion for members of the public who would like to make Public Comment regarding line item eight, please approach the podium. Good evening, commissioners. Vice chair chief, i wasnt planning on speaking tonight, but on this matter. But since i am the executive director of Fishermans WharfCommunity Benefit district on behalf of my constituents, stakeholders, businesses, thank you for getting the spike strips into the chiefs hands, which he can then deploy once he develops guidelines to put into his officers hands. So thank you. See . No further comment on the motion. Commissioner walker, how do you vote . Yes mr. Walker is yes. Commissioner benedicto. Yes commissioner benedicto is yes. Commissioner yanez. Yes. Commissioner janez is. Yes. Commissioner byrne. Yes. Commissioner byrne is. Yes commissioner yee yes. Commissioner yee is yes. Vice president carter overstone yes. Vice president carter is yes. You have six yeses. Line item six presentation and discussion on patrol specials at the request of the Commission Discussion on. Im just going to introduce this this topic. Thank you for presenting from the department the president assigned sort of researching the patrol special program at the there was a lot of requests from the public to look at this, to look at the history of the patrol special program and sort of have a discussion about it. So theres no item to vote on. This is just bringing you up to speed on what weve been talking about so we can hopefully agree to move forward. So thank you so much for being here and presenting. Thank you, commissioner. My name is lieutenant patrick mccormick. Im the oic of staff services. Fancy name for personnel chief and commissioners. Thank you. This will be a fairly short presentation, but id like to point out id like to welcome our it may be our lone patrol special in the city. Alan beard has also here the last remaining , last remaining. And i know we have a slide show. Are we going to put it up . Great. Okay. Perfect well start with the first picture. Theres a little bit of history, patrol specials. Patrol specials date back to the gold rush era. As you know, between 1840 and 1850. The organization of patrol specials was to provide protection for merchants and citizens during a time when the city was experiencing tremendous growth and significant crime. This here is a picture of patrol specials. In 1895. Its a private special police force. They are not affiliated with the Police Department. They are a private security that was founded and is governed by city charter and under city charter slide. The charter gives the Police Commission authority over patrol specials, and the authority is to appoint and suspend and dismiss patrol special officers. And let me add the caveat. Well speak with regarding assistant patrol specials and patrol specials. Patrol specials are whats in the charter. Assistant patrol specials are are recommended by a patrol special to be hired under their under their tutelage. The commission regulates patrol specials by establishing requirements for and procedures to govern the position. And these requirements including provide the chief of police with the power to suspend a patrol special officer pending a hearing or charges as slide. Currently, there are specific areas designed as patrol special beats in 1982 or around that time, theres a lot of the patrol special Institutional Knowledge is way in the past. Before my time, but we were able to dig some of it up at some point prior to 1982, the city was divided into 64 beats. If a patrol special believes that he or she needs additional staffing , the patrol special can identify a candidate to perform duties of an assistant patrol special. The commission may designate patrol specials as the owner of the certain beats or territories established or rescinded by again by the commission. The owners or their legal heirs or representatives may transfer their owned beats to a person or of good moral character. Once that person is approved by the commission and eligible for appointment as a patrol special officer, these designated beats or territories shall not affect the ability of a private Security Company to provide an on Site Security Service is on the inside or the entrance of any property located in the city. Patrol specials have a unique ability to patrol areas and beats as opposed to a standard Security Officer who would be pretty much assigned to a permanent position at a store or Something Like that. Slide. A current patrol special officer must meet the minimum qualifications as number one. They they must be sponsored or nominated by by a patrol special assistant patrol. Special must be nominated by a patrol. Special applicants must be 21 years of age. Good moral character as defined by post we utilize post because its state guidance and it gives us a little bit of backing as far as regulation and criteria, a letter of nomination and sponsorship by a current patrol special officer like alan. A High School Diploma or a ged test certificate. It complete private Background Investigation packet which they they do on their own they pay for and applicant is required to submit to a fingerprint check to disclose criminal records to us which we take care of as a live scan again with minimum qualifications. The letter signed by a private physician certifying the candidate. I go slide to be free of any physical, emotional or mental condition which adversely affects the applicant for duty as an assistant patrol special. This is a kind of parallels what a Police Officer does when they apply for or a Police Applicant goes through when they apply, they complete a post basic 832 course, which is governed by the penal code. Its normally a 64 hour course and it has to be issued within the last three years. The certification is good for three years. Thats why it talks to that valid exposed firearm permit, much like a guard card, a valid guard registration card, valid identification such as a california drivers license. Us passport, a little bit of background. Theres no hard timeline for a patrol special background to be completed because just like Police Applicant, everybody is unique. So everybody has a varied Life Experience and it takes depending on that Life Experience. When a Background Investigation is complete, the background investigator will submit the Background Investigation packet to the chief of police for review and recommendation after the chief of police makes the their recommendation. The Background Investigation packet will be submitted to the Police Commission who will approve or disapprove the applicant. And in fact, i have three background packets. Im ready to present to you. Not an open forum. More of a personnel matter, but i could provide those background packets to you today with with the chiefs recommendation. Ill drop that on. Alan, you didnt know that. So and a little bit of training patrol. Special officers are trained in the classroom and on Police Department range qualifications. They pay for their own bullets as officers patrol, special officers attend a 24 hours of instruction each year, according to standards and topics set by the chief of police. A training occurs at the San FranciscoPolice AcademyRegional Training Center or equivalent thereof, and patrol special officers have met medical standards of the Police Department and passed Extensive PoliceBackground Investigation before being appointed to the commission. Its a little bit of the history of the patrol special program as where it is now for any questions, maybe what i can do is i can talk about the conversations weve been having and then we can were both here and all of us are here for questions. When president elias assigned me, i started meeting with staff with chief scott and ac laser and some other staff, including mccarthy. I think he was. Hes the patrol special. Ill call him a liaison liaison on and, you know, i did my own research, so i, i located initially a 2010 comptrollers audit, which is so much bigger than your presentation. Its id be here all night if we talked about that. Theres copies there. And the supervisor can get it essentially there were some issues with the program and i have to say that in reading and in discussing things, there was a kind of a lack of oversight and coordination on. I mean, the commission has the authority, but were not going to do it. And each beat was its own thing. And so some of them worked and some of them didnt. And thats kind of outlined in this report. And the recommendation was to stop it. And so it didnt happen. I mean, we still have one, but it did slow down. There was resistance in the city family to the program just because of the issues that were happening and the inability to sort of reel it in. And whats true is that in the conversation, weve really come to see that as a tool. This actually could be really helpful for some of the issues that were having today. It would likely have to be totally revamped, which is what weve talked about doing about it really, because the issue of management and oversight, its a private sector program. So our our our connection is a partnership that works to help really with crime prevention, not crime fighting. And thats really what the patrol specials does really well by being out there in community, by walking, theyre allowed to go outside of the building, not just inside like private security, but it allows for things like walking employees home if theyre on a late shift or walking them to their car or or going with health care or case managers into a home visit or, you know, theres a the cat, the cat club issue that happened where there was a break in and the police respond, did and did what they needed to do and then went on to the next call and there was no one there and they got broken into again while a patrol special could actually patrol outside to make sure that the location was safe, theres a lot of benefit ofit to this program if its working properly. So the conversation we started talking about the reality of whats out there today, you know, helping with our our Business Districts and the innovation of the Business Improvement districts, the Community Benefit districts that are present in many of our merchant corridors who partner with our Economic Development department, the Arts Commission for public art for performance venues out in the neighborhoods we partner with them through that be the bids is what its called the bids and i was actually approached by folks who are working on the Citywide Alliance of the bids who are who already have security infrastructure that they are making for all of their partner agencies, for all the partner cbds, et cetera. Creating Radio Networks and using camera information. An i know that we already, the Police Department already gets video and whatnot from incidents and already work with that group of security folks. But the folks in including mister scott whos here in the audience, have really expressed an interest to partner with the city or talk about partnering with the city on this kind of program to actually see help create some consistency across all of these different areas. And i mean, weve started talking about the possible of essentially shutting down the existing Program Rules and redraft eating the new one. And so its going to take a lot of time to actually sit and work with the existing rules and update them. So before we went into that, i wanted to make sure that other commissioners could weigh in on this. I mean, i feel like its i feel like its a really important tool, especially with all of our existing partnerships out in the community that are willing to step up. I also want to acknowledge that weve gotten several hundred emails from your customers patrol special buyers. The last living, the last remaining patrol special and his Customer Base is really worried about not being covered. So we hear you and i think that its a real nice tool. I think if we can really make it work, ive ive approached the conversation with the with the chief that the way this works is if its a Real Partnership where theres mutual trust for each party and then we also i mean, i will also say that one of the failings of the Previous Program was that we didnt necessarily get to look at any data and because of the infrastructure thats being built out there, we could require just data as needed to review how many calls, what kind of incidents, where did people get taken to . I mean, theres all of that information can be returned to us on a regular basis, just like our regular reports. So i think that the future discussions on this are really going to its going to be important for all of you commissioners to sort of weigh in with questions and areas of concern so that we make sure that we discuss it as we go forward. Hopefully we, you know, we could come up with something more solid and more detailed than a couple of months with the partners working on this. So i mean, thats sort of a synopsis. So if theres any questions, chief, did you want to say anything youve been in chief scott was in several of the meetings that we had and then lazarus sort of taken over the meeting schedule. So thank you, commissioner walker. First, first of all, let me thank commissioner walker. Thank you for your leadership on this. I know the patrol special program has been around a long time. And it definitely theres a lot of there there in terms of looking at ways to. To address some of the issues that from the past that maybe as this gets revitalized and we get more interest in the program to address some of those issues. So thank you. I know theres been a lot of meetings, a lot of discussions, and, you know, i think we still have a long way to go. So i want to thank you. I want to thank acting captain mccormick as well, because there has been a lot of thought and work thats gone into to this and, you know, well see where this leads us. You know. Commissioner benedicto, thank you. Thank you very much. Vice president carter overstone. And thank you, captain mccormick, for your presentation. I also want to thank our patrol special , mr. Bayard, for being here for a lot of Tremendous Community feedback about you, too. So thank you. And that what were here to discuss is the prospects of what this program would look like modernized and not anything specific about any of the of the individual patrol specials. But you know, at this meeting, commissioner walker provided our fellow commissioners with a copy of the 2010 controllers report on the patrol specials that was issued. Then she also going to provide ive checked with an electronic copy so that our Commission Staff can post it. This was around the time that the program was paused and began to wind down. I know that the recommendation of this report was at that time to discontinue the program. Um, and while it wasnt fully discontinued, as evidenced by mr. Bayard here, it was sort of face attrition after that, i think the report ive only gotten the moments between agenda items to read it. Its quite lengthy but it raises some, some very significant systemic concerns about the way the program was set up at the time. There are issues about patrol specials being private nature and how that would affect things like sovereign immunity or insurance or liability for the city. And being state actors. There were issues about confusion between patrol specials and sfpd confusion about about oversight and other procedural questions. And so im very glad that we got to review this report. I think this will be the first of what will be a number of conversations. At a minimum, id like to be able to read this report cover to cover. And i think if we were to consider implementing this program, what wed need to see, what i would what would need to see, at least speaking only for myself, is a comprehensive plan that addresses the serious concerns in this report to make sure that we were doing this thoughtfully and addressing the concerns that our controller raised in this report. So im looking forward to reviewing the report. I mean, there are just a number of things in scrolling. You know, theres the patrol specials under the Prior Program have the authority to arrest. But arent peace officers under california state law, theres all kinds of things that that struck me just in perusing the report. And so seeing as we receive the report just as as the meeting started, i dont have any specific questions. Im grateful to commissioner walker for her leadership and for bringing this to our fellow commissioners attention. But its definitely the first of many conversations. I think its also important this commission has has repeatedly stressed the importance of feedback. When we undertook the revisions of. Department general order 9. 07, i believe there were between 10 and 15 Community Outreach events ranging from specific working groups to partners with the human rights commission. And i think the change in allowing the re the resuming of this program dwarfs sort of the normal scope of our policy changes, standing up really a whole other organizations. I think we need to have at least that level of Community Outreach. We had, i believe it was for officer town halls. Id be really interested to hear what officers, particularly patrol officers and their thoughts about having the a parallel private forest that has similar but not coextensive authority and different regulations and oversight. So i think thats important. I think the time will come that were going to want to hear from our department of Police Accountability. So i think theres a lot of steps here. Im glad that were embarking on this because i think that ive often said that were open to any and all ways to help with Public Safety. And this is certainly a tool that has been used in the past. And so i thank you for coming in and look forward to looking at this report and also for members of the public to see this report once its posted on the commission website. So thank you , commissioner yi. Thank you very much there. Vice president carter. I just want to thank Deborah Walker for bringing this up. Patrol special program has just been put back, like with one patrol special looking at the new package or actually the new data that we just received here today. I guess to echo what commissioner benedict said is theres a lot of things we probably need to talk about in discussion with the community as well and the policies of the Police Department as well, and how you married both of them together. So theres a lot of work to be done on this, i believe. And looking forward to seeing more data on there, too, as well. Thank you very much. Thank you. Sergeant, could you take us to Public Comment . Members of the public would like to make Public Comment regarding line item six. Please approach the podium. Commissioners chief, thank you for having this discussion in front of us here. When i became patrol special in 1977, it was 450 patrol specials. That was assistance and beat owners. You had approximately a little over 1600 regular Police Officers. And at that time there was 200 reserve officers. Now you have about 1600 Police Officers, one patrol special, and just a few reserve officers. San francisco was very safe back then, and it was because of the police that that we intervened before for the crime became a crime that we were the eyes and ears of the communities. And it was the original Community Policing weve had. 26 Liaison Officers since 1970. Weve had a few of them for a couple of days, a few for a couple of weeks, a few for a couple of months and a few for a couple of years. Talk about lack of oversight. Most of them didnt care. They did give the oversight to the various sergeants at the district station level. And again, they were more concerned about their guys, the ones that created a lot of the problems. Theyre no longer here. So were starting off brand new. And thats the way to do it. The big holdup that i see is a bottleneck called the applications and the post backgrounds. Nothing in the rules and regulations say it has to be a post background. We were told that by then liaison and robert h. When Theresa Sparks was the Police Commissioner. So thats what has been done. But apparently sfpd doesnt accept our backgrounds and its taken over a year just to review one. That is the thing that has to change. Who does . The backgrounds are they going to be post certified . My assistant that i have working for me, antoine tazewell. It took him 14 years to get appointed and he is the anything over a year is ridiculous. I was told the reason its taken so long is because, sir, with respect, your two minutes of Public Comment have expired. Thank you. Hi good evening, commissioners. Im a d2 resident. Im a customer of alan , so im here to talk in support of the psp program and i hope that someone would approve the qualified candidates so the program can continue to, at least in the short term and then very interested to hear about how we might handle this in the future and what plans that commissioner walker has presented sound really good to me. I believe were at an all hands on deck situation in San Francisco right now, with many residents feeling unsafe and identifying Public Safety as their top priority. Its hardly the time to terminate the psp, which has been in the city for a very long time. As weve discussed just in 2010, the worst thing that was happening in my neighborhood was someone opening car doors and rifling for change age. Now i have armed gunmen committing Violent Crimes as i live near the palace of fine arts, i personally signed up for the program. I have to two teenage daughters at home and heard about alan and i. Feel much better knowing that he can help them out if theyre at home alone at night. This gives me peace of mind. I think that a neighborhood psp officer can respond quickly to low level security incidents and it takes the pressure off of the Police Officers who are already stretched thin. Right now, as we all well know, dealing with all kinds of serious crime. So anyway, thank you for listening. Im in support of this program. Good evening, commissioners. Is i would urge you to adopt this program and move forward with the current qualified candidates as soon as possible, all depending on the report. One reads San Francisco is 600 to 1000 officers short, but we are in an urgent situation with many residents feeling unsafe and identifying Public Safety as their top concern. We need to do whatever we can to scaffold around our safety needs until we can build our Police Staffing back up now is not the time to terminate this and it has been recognized in the city charter since 1856 with with this officer shortage and more slated to retire the city should be looking to employ every available option to put qualified officers in our communities and on our streets. As these patrols are considered to represent Community Policing efforts because of their focus attention on the culture and personality of each district neighborhood which is exactly the time of type of policing that this Commission Says it wants. Every district in the city should be able to enjoy these benefits of added community patrols. And if this commission blocks more officers from being hired, the patrol located in the marina will be the end of the program. I ask the Police Commissioner to approve the three qualified candidates identified by the marina patrol and saved this program. Thank you so much. Good evening again, commissioners. Again, my name is randall scott. Im standing before you right now. My title. I have a couple of them is president and ceo of the San Francisco benefit district alliance. And that is an alliance of all the dvds and bds in the city. We have our own organization, which represents a good swath, the major commercial corridors of the city. And were also partners with the Council District merchants association. So weve got a good read on the city. Our lives, what we do in our neck of the woods, which is part of our lovely city here, is Public Private partnership. Thats what were built on. Thats what we do. Thats how we how we operate. We partner with dpw. We partner with the Mayors Office. We partner with sfpd, with camera systems. I mean, we this Partnership Already exists. The reason why ive been talking to commissioner walker about this is use us. Were here. Were were another tool in the tool belt to, you know, hopefully move this forward. So im here representing the alliance as as well as Fishermans Wharf, saying whatever we can do to help, were here to help. Were here to help sfpd any way we can. And yeah, thats it. Thank you. That is the end of Public Comment line item seven presentation and discussion on safe streets for all report Second Quarter 2023 discussion. All right. Good evening, acting president carter. Robert stone, acting director rosenstein, chief scott and commissioners. Im commander nicole jones of the special operations bureau, mta Traffic Division and im here tonight to discuss the 2020 three quarter two safe streets for all report. Next slide sfpds ultimate goals are to support vision zero and to assist in the elimination of traffic fatalities, as well as to improve Street Safety overall for everyone. Sfpd has utilized education as one method to achieve this. This slide shows some of the quarter two Traffic Safety campaigns done by or in collaboration with sfpd. One notable example is valencia street, which had significant changes in traffic patterns and the traffic environment due to the installation of a center bike lane. We worked with mta to educate through social Media Channels as well as through educational enforcement in the infant stages of these changes, we did lots of traffic stops that resulted in advisements only to get the community oriented. Id like to highlight that one of the educational methods we use are traffic stops that result in advisements or warnings only. And i think that sometimes this component gets missed. So were really focused on changing the behavior and that is one method that we do that. Next slide, please. Sfpd also utilized enforcement, and this included directed enforcement, which are planned operations targeting specific issues. Much of this directed enforcement comes as a result of community feedback, city Agency Feedback and examination of our high injury corridors throughout the city. The Traffic Company itself did 164 directed operations between january and june of this year, 57 of those were focused on the five efforts, and 41 were focused on high injury corridor locations. Next slide, please. In terms of enforcement, from january through june of this year, sfpd has issued 2751 citations. 6,060 of which were focused on the five violations. So thats 1655 of the 2751. Just as a refresher, focus on the five violations include speeding red light violations, stop sign violations, failure to yield to a pedestrian at a crosswalk, and failure to yield while making a left or a uturn. Next slide, please. In terms of overall traffic citations citywide, we have issued 50 more citations in the first two quarters of 2023 than we did in the first two quarters of 2022. So thats 2751 citations versus 1839. At the same time last year. Next slide, please. In terms of focus on the five, there is a 47 increase in 2023 from 2022. So were definitely going in the right direction on this. Next slide, please. In the first two quarters of 2023, we had 11 traffic fatalities. And id like to point out that there was a 12th death as well. But that individual experienced a medical issue, so they are not included in the vision zero count. Next slide, please. The mode of transportation is identified in these graphs. And as you can see , the majority of the traffic fatalities were pedestrians. Thats seven of the 11. We also had both Vehicle Driver and passenger victims, as well as one victim in transit on a standup powered device. And in this case, that was an electric scooter. Next slide, please. As you can see from this chart, we had fatalities in most age brackets. However, i think the salient point on this slide, at least for me, is that all of the deaths in the age brackets of 50 and over were Pedestrian Fatality his so that is definitely something that the Traffic Company will be focusing on in the coming months in terms of enforcement. Next slide, please. In comparison to 2022, we have experienced a decrease in traffic fatalities during the same time period this year. Fatalities have decreased 42 from 1918 and 2022 to 11in 2023. Next slide, please. So this slide just provides a little more context for each of these traffic fatalities, including the locations, the collision types and the primary collision factors, which are basically the vehicle Code Violations that are deemed to have caused these crashes. As next slide, please. And this is the cheat sheet. If you need to identify what those primary collision factors were. Next slide, please. And with that, im happy to answer any questions. Thank you, commander jones, for that incredible, succinct presentation. We love succinctness here. Um so question about i think it was slide five, the, the year to date number at the bottom, that 2750 number, is that year to date as in up to today or is that first two quarters, first two quarters, sorry. Okay. So so were on track to issue to 5500 or so. No citations this year, but thats thats down tremendously. Right from prior years. Yes, i think we issued 27,000 in 2019, roughly. Yes. So were down about 80 from 2019 numbers. And i think the chronicle published a piece about a week ago saying that we were down, i think, 97 from eight years ago. Why . Why are we down so much in our Traffic Enforcement so dramatically from every prepandemic year . Yes, i think that its a variety of factors. I think one that we point to is staffing. Were at a fraction of the number of motorcycle officers we have than we did a decade ago. Similarly were down tremendously, as weve talked about, sort of ad nauseam in the Police Department. But i think the pandemic absolutely played a role. But with the staffing shortages as well, i think what gets missed is that people are being pulled in Different Directions. So people are being asked to perform other duties and assignments because we have things that we need to get done when you have less officers, theres also less time for selfinitiated activity. Were going from call to call to call in many instances, particularly now. That being said, we could say all of these are contributing factors is increased administrative response abilities, body worn, camera, camera tracking and tagging. We have to do the stop Data Collection system. Those are things that are a little bit different from before that have just made traffic stops a little bit longer. Um, some technological issues. Were working through them. But overall, like i said, all our factors, but the bottom line is i think we can do better as a department in terms of Traffic Enforcement. So i think we need to go in a different direction up. I think im confident that if we put some of these systems in place that we can do that. I think weve been really successful with these directed operation efforts and really targeting why we want people to go to certain places, what issue that were trying to address and then when resources are available, deploying them in that way. So thank you for that. I guess i just want to follow up on two things. You said you called out staffing and you also called out data entry. Im assuming you mean stop data entry around ripa. As for staffing, i dont have the numbers top of mind, but what i think we probably have lower staffing than we did in 2019, but not, you know, 80 lower. Anything close to account for the kind of cratering of our citation rates . Yes. So i understand our staffing is probably, i think, from memory, less than it was in 2019. Is that your recollection . But not dramatically less, right . Yeah so i will tell you to your point, and i think the point youre trying to make is that the decrease in staffing is not walking hand in hand with the decrease in traffic citations. Theyre not falling at the same rate. And youre absolutely correct. You know, so i think that those are all factors, but i dont think that they explain away the decrease in citations and i know that since ive been at the Traffic Company, i have been poring over the data to really try to understand land, whats happening here and what direction we need to go in and why do we think entry of a stop data is a factor in the decrease in citations . I dont think its i dont think its that in and of itself. I think that thats one small component of increased administrative burdens is having to go back. Traffic stops are just taking a little bit longer here. And i think mostly on the back end, you know, because they do the traffic stop, they issue the citation, then they have to go back and put the entries in the system later. They have to tag their Body Worn Camera footage. And im not saying that that is a main factor in why citations have dropped off. I think its just one contributing factor to that. It plays some role. To what extent i think we still need to look into that is there one big driving factor that jumps out . I appreciate that youve enumerated several, but is there because it doesnt seem to be staffing and it doesnt seem to be data entry necessarily. So is there something that you would call out . Is this is the big mover that accounts for the reduction in citations and stops at this time . No, but i like i said, im new in my role here at the Traffic Company. So what i would like to do is really try to dig into the data and understand more of the factors at play. Great. I appreciate that. And i just want to be clear, chief, do you also agree that the entry of data is not substantial contributor to the reduction in citations . I dont believe its a substantial contributor, but i do believe its a contributor. You know, having lived through this when i was in patrol, when my former department started collecting stop data, it did slow things down. You know, theres more administrative work to do. Theres and you would think that that it to the commanders point, commander joness point, i dont think its a you know hand in hand reciprocal change, but it does factor in, you know, as does Body Worn Camera and some of the other things it factors in it slows things down. And if i recall, all our obligations began at some point during the middle of 2018. Does that sound right . 20 was it 2018 . Yeah, i think it was june or july of 20. Thats my recollection to the statute sets out who had to go first. Basically, the biggest departments had to start and i think it was middle of 2018 and my recollection is that citations actually went up from 2018 to 2019. And at a minimum, there wasnt any huge variance between those two years. So again, i would just question whether the entry of data could possibly be a factor if we didnt see that effect. If it was, you would see a big effect when repo was actually enacted and 2018 to 2019. But i dont think we see that. But correct me if i have that wrong. I was just going to add, im pretty sure it was 2018, we increased our our motorcycle the size of our Motorcycle Unit back up to almost 50. And i believe that was 29, 2018 because i can remember some of the conversations that we had here in the commission and with the board of supervisors on that. And correct me on this, i think were somewhere around the low 20s now. Is that right . Commander jones as far as the deployment of the solo unit in terms of i think that they havent been replenished to any of the levels seen before. But i do think that there was there may have been an additional class added at that time. Yeah, there was either 2018 and 2019, but im looking at the data and i see im looking at our data and 2018 to 2019 overall traffic violations did go down in 2019 from 2018, slightly from. Yeah. What was the you want to give us the top line. 50,895 total citations issued. Versus 42,971 in 2019. So slightly less so. It seems to come as a downward trend. Theres obviously a precipitous drop between 2019 and 2020. But i so thats helpful. There was some drop but not but again, that that wouldnt explain the big dip that were seeing now. Yeah. And can i bring up one more point . Yes so and this is something that ive noticed as well. So were basing everything on citations. Right . But theres also to my point earlier in the presentation, a number of stops that we do that dont result in citation. So that result in advisements and warning and traffic education. So one of the things that were working on now is getting a better handle on understanding that because thats absolutely a part of this puzzle is that we are making stops that no, were considering it a success if its an arrest. But oftentimes its also a success if there is behavior change and we would like to be able to present that information as well. Moving forward. Great thanks so much, commissioner byrne. Thank you. Vice president. Why richmond station . I mean, i get this question. A lot of the i mean, its what, like three quarters or more of all the their given Traffic Company a run for their money. So we know we have work to do but so they have a couple of officers who are very well trained in lidar and theyre really doing speed. Its so funny that you say that because jody medeiros from walk sf said to me, shes like, when can i meet the richmond station officer . Because theyre and i think 97 of richmonds violations are focused on the five violations. So they really are doing an incredibly tremendous job out there. Um, i think that. But i dont want to cut you off, commissioner. I think i may have mid question. No, no, no. That was the question. Yeah, but i mean the richmond is not the most dangerous part of San Francisco. There would be other areas of the city where id be more, more concerned. One merely has to look at the map as to where the fatalities took place to realize they werent taking place in the richmond yeah, they were taking place in near the downtown core. Yeah and it would seem to me that thats where the thats where the enforcement should be because at the end of the day, um, just like the idea of, of dealing with the tenderloin because, you know, over two people a day are dying so that the resources be concentrated to provide the most safety and, and it seems to me that where the fatalities take place is where you want the enforcement. But thats my opinion. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. And i would also like to point out that our downtown stations have Different Levels of calls for service and different amounts of time for proactivity. And thats absolutely a factor. I think here and i agree with you, we need to be focusing our efforts for Traffic Enforcement in those high injury corridor networks and there are more concentrated in one part of the city, that part of the city also happens to be usually tremendously busy. Chief, i see your next up. I do. Can i interject with a question for you and maybe you can fold it into what what your comment was, which is it seems like there isnt one big smoking gun cause for why both stops and citations have taken a dip and a big dip. And im just wondering if theres different deployment decisions we can make to invest more more in traffic and enforcement. Obviously, every new assignment to a new task. Youre taking someone off some someone Something Else. And so there is a risk and reward to everything. But at our investment in Traffic Enforcement has gotten so low and were seeing such high rates of death and carnage on our roadways. You know, right now we have eight officers and a sergeant full time arresting drug users. Everyone told us it wouldnt go well. Its not going well. I wonder if some of those officers could do Traffic Enforcement instead. And theres a number of you know, we could go through other decisions like that. But this is an important issue, you know, that doesnt necessarily distinguish it. You have a lot of important issues that you need to appropriately invest in. But i just think weve let this one go to a level thats just not consistent with our vision. Zero zero goals at a minimum. Thank you, commissioner. Yeah the slide that was up the last slide that was up. I am encouraged to see that the district stations are doing more Traffic Enforcement and i do think there as the commander jones spoke about, i do think there are other stops that are being made that dont result in citations. One of our objectives is to really get everybody back engaged in Traffic Enforcement, not just the Traffic Company. I know that the tradition have carried a big part of our Traffic Enforcement efforts, but they also have other responsibilities investigated lines of traffic collisions and the like. So really our challenge is to continue that trend. You saw on that slide, tenderloin had very few, but as was pointed out, you know, theres a very, very high call volume and they do get pulled off in tenderloin for fixed posts and foot beats and other things like that to deal with. Some of the other issues that you just mentioned. The bottom line on this is weve got to get everybody involved in track of Traffic Enforcement and encourage our officers to make sure that we do that with that is clarity in terms of what were asking to do, but also there is there is theres that balance between handling the radio calls and the Community Engagement that we need. And asking officers, like in many district stations, to get out of their cars and walk foot beats and talk to the Business Owners and all that. So that balance is really what were trying to find. But it is encouraging to see that at least most of the stations there was an increase and i think that will get us a long way. Commissioner benedicto. Thank you, Vice President carter. Overstone i was really intrigued about about the idea that, you know, were obviously there are stops that are advisements that are without citation and looking into that, you know, is that data that we could look at to see if that at least if i mean, obviously they wont explain all the decline, it will still look pretty precipitous. But it might you know is that data the department has available that it could compare. So we could sort of see that overlaid against just the stop data to see if that explains part of the of the drop off. Yeah. So thats the data that ive requested from the professional Standards Team that im working on getting to make sure that we have moving forward as a talking point, im curious to see it as well. Yeah. Once you have it of analyze that data, id love for, for you to come back and ask that to be agendized. I think thats, thats an important piece. As to as to the question of the richmond, i think weve all hit the nail on the head that i think some of it is the level of calls for service around the downtown core. I know the last one of the recent ride alongs i did, i think i was there for five hours. And it was all responding to calls. I dont think they were able to do anything proactive the whole time i was i was with them and it was like id asked them like, oh, do you want us to go . And im like, no, no. I just just asking what you were doing. And so it was i think thats thats a big part of it. You know, i think its like Vice President carter oberstein said the its unacceptable that it should be unacceptable that since vision zero was announced, traffic deaths have only gone up. I think i read something recently that we were on track to tie our the most traffic fatalities. And its the number of traffic deaths in this country and in San Francisco are really reaching really unacceptable levels. And its disappointing to see it start to take the character of gun violence where theres almost a fatalism to it among some policymakers. Were like, oh, well, some number of traffic deaths are are just happening. And im would like to see this commission, you know, other commissions, the board of supervisors, really all of us committing to making this a priority because its just such an unacceptable amount of death. And i know that we spent a lot of time in 2022 talking about 9. 07. And one of the one of the things animating it, not the only thing animating, but one of the things animating it was the idea that it would free up resources to allow for more enforcement on focus on the five. You know, we i think i said that i said it from this room a million times that not a single offense on the 9. 07 list was a focus on the five offense because we were really wanting to reiterate our commitment to that and to encourage that reallocation of resources. So you know, thats that is still in confer. But i just i would i know that im committed to using every tool at our disposal to make sure that we can make reducing traffic deaths a priority. So thank you for the presentation. Thank you. Commissioner walker. Thank you. Thank you for the report. It is very fascinating and i do have a question. Is there are i know that there were Traffic Cameras used and then we stopped using them. I mean, are we looking at at Traffic Cameras for some of these things . Because i think especially with the new technology and the ability to identify movement in that type of thing, yeah. So i think youre referring to red light cameras. Yes. Yes. So we do have and theyre not included. The red light camera violations are not included in these in these stats. But we do review red light camera violations. I believe that on the docket, theres eight more slated to be installed. So that will be a tremendous increase. Also on the docket, or at least in terms of legislation at the state level, is speed cameras. So if speed cameras come into play, San Francisco will be most likely one of the pilot cities, i believe, for that as well. So we asked we participate in the Red Light Camera Program in my office. I have an officer who is dedicated to reviewing the violations and making those correlations and issuing the tickets and going to court. And so, yes, well, and i was looking at the discrepancy in its i mean, i dont think we have it broken down by what what the actual ticket is for. But i mean i think that theres a lot of speed issues out in the richmond that theres less traffic and so people drive faster and but its you know, i do think that the reporting factor takes time and its important stuff to gain. But when you have the combination of extra administrative work in addition to less people doing patrols and you know it is its a challenge. So thank you for taking this on. We look forward to more updates as as they come in. So thank you. Thank you. Commissioner yanez. Thank you. Vice president carter overstone. Thank you for the presentation you got some powerpoint skills there. Quick question, just for my information on is there a difference between advisement and admonishment . Im glad youre going to be bringing back those numbers, but is that just an interchangeable term, sort of interchangeable as it relates to this . Okay but are they both captured in the same fashion . Great. Because i think that that is an important point. Yeah. And i agree with Vice President carter overstone that there you know, theres really only theres about a 25 difference, right in the number of staff. And lets get down to figure out how it is that we can increase and be more proactive about enforcement because i you know, i often see i live right around the corner from valencia street that whole fiasco as it was initiated, you know, was was obviously going to create some concerns and some additional obstacles as but i often can see things myself and i see officers maybe theyre on their way back into the station so they dont make the stop. But i really think that there needs to be a very forceful ill command from leadership that they need to be more proactively addressing, whether its the five or just in general, all of these traffic offenses. I do supervisors actually actually analyze like data or the time that it takes to document their citations or the ripa is there like do they categorize how much time is taken to generate these reports . I think its based on estimates and one thing that i have shouted from the rooftops and the chief will attest to this is being able to account for administrative time a little bit more effectively in the Police Department. And that involves tremendous culture change. And were still going to work on it. But i think that right now its an estimate. They can say that traffic citations have become have more administrative burdens attached to them than they did before. And sort of and you kind of have people all over the map. You have some very efficient officers and some brand new officers is going to take a lot more time than it would just because of the training components. But again, all our factors. But but to what extent, you know, we believe that this is a contributing factor. We dont believe it is the sole factor to president carter stones point, having, you know, overseeing a lot of employees who actually do count every second and minute of their time. A time analysis is essential, right . There are some people who will take a little longer because its not as laborious or energy consuming to write a report versus to be out there doing the work right. So i know that that if its going to gain us a couple of minutes, a couple of hours of actual enforcement, i think its worth the effort to look at that time analysis and to get a range right. Like we should not be condone owning someone, maybe taking an hour when it takes 15 minutes for another officer. Yes, theres a learning curve. But i think that we should we should have standard, right . We need to have some kind of template that gives people some guidance. And i hope that we do get to that point at some point soon because is there is a lot of work to do. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioner yee. Thank you. Thank you very much there. Vice president carter. I, like the rest of the commissions, i guess looking at the Richmond District. Its i guess i wont say an anomaly. Its a is a glaring issue of all the stops thats happening out there. I live in the Richmond District myself and i thank the officer for keeping us safe out there. But again, youre looking at the rest of the districts. Um, i guess we could need some additional officer in those districts to keep us safe throughout the whole city. Also, i noticed that if youre 50 and over chance of you getting hit, you know, or having one of those accidents thats 50 or plus 50. So we need to make sure that all of our residents throughout the ten stations prepared that, you know, you dont you dont see one district with all the solve. So the question is, again, how much use of manpower or actually workforce assigned to that district. So again, looking forward to more data to as well. Thank you. Thanks. I just have one comment. Not not a question. Just responding to what chief said earlier about trying to get everyone involved in Traffic Enforcement, i think thats great. But i think its also been a long time now that we havent had any significant amount of Traffic Enforcement. And i think its going to require more than just, you know, getting everyone involved. I think people are involved. And as much as they can possibly be consistent with the other duties and assignments and obligations that theyre assigned. And i think that its going to require some very tough deployment decisions to be made to decide what we can do less, what can we do less or do less with anything so that we can have Traffic Enforcement that actually deters injuries and deaths on our roadways. And again, in you know, every day were sending nine sworn members out there to do nothing but arrest drug users , which is just contra indicated by every expert that everyone told us it wasnt going to work. It continues not to work. And people will are getting hurt on our roadways as a result of this misguided decision. This is this is in part why ive asked to agendize a discussion on deployment. Again, this this commission has no jurisdiction over the departments deployment practices. But i think its a great Public Interest to understand how were using our scarce Law Enforcement resources forces, because i think people are understandably, you know, have a lot of questions about some of the decisions weve made, seeing no other names in the queue. Sergeant, could you take us to Public Comment, please, for members of the public, that would like to make Public Comment regarding line item seven, please approach the podium. And there is no Public Comment. Line item nine discussion on sfpd stop data pursuant to unit order 20 101 at the request of the Commission Discussion. Good evening, commissioners. Vice president carter overstone commissioners chief scott. Acting director rosenstein. Im catherine mcguire. Im the executive director of the Strategic Management bureau, and im just appearing here to this evening mostly to answer any questions you have. About 2101 but ill give some brief remarks to start. Um so the professional standards and principal policing unit in concludes the staff inspections unit and sergeant huh. Is here this evening to help answer any specific and detailed questions you might have. About 2101 and our stops review. As you may know, in 2021, icu issued that that unit order that specifies lies, among other things, to conduct periodic audits of data sets. On a side note, ill just mention that the term audit in icu and which is now right now a unit of one sergeant are not audits in the classic form, meaning theyre not gaggis compliant to the fullest extent, although sergeant ha makes valiant efforts to adhere to gaggis guidance whenever possible. In particular around sampling and methods like that in in psp we refer to a big a audits and little a audits and so the work we do really are more appropriately named reviews or spot checks. And in particular when it comes to this portion of 2101, the unit order outlines an annual identification of inconsistent sdcs entries and ill note that the unit order also indicates findings from these recurring inspections do not regularly result in in a detailed report to the chief of police and instead are intended to and im now paraphrase, being intended to be remediated. So any findings or or issues with that spot in that spot check are remediated. And i can go into detail on how that works. But essentially, sergeant notifies the stations or units that with a provides them with a list of entries that are outstanding along with the names of officers who began the entry and in the notification, both the supervisor must acknowledge and the officer must acknowledge which indicates that the member has completed and submitted or deleted the entry where appropriate. If it was duplicated, duplicative or otherwise. So that is the extent of what i prepared. But im happy i have lots of material here and im happy to answer any questions. Great. Thank you. Director mcguire. Could you just start by clarifying what exactly the audits are looking to detect . So in this case, its out in entries that were started but not submitted in the system. So there are the beginnings of a stop was conducted and they began their entry and didnt click the submit button. Okay and is there anything else that these audits are designed to detect . Not at this time. We have. Hopes for the future and when sergeant ha can get a little help, we would expand and those reviews as as we can. And so the unit order is guidance for inconsistencies is not a very descriptive phrase. And the idea being that it allows for us to ensure that were were capturing long at least those those data points that were intended to be in the system and at this time, we just dont have the capacity to go beyond that. But we want to and will great. Thats helpful. So the audits are designed to detect one thing, which is entries that were started but not completed. Now, when i agendize this, i asked the department if they could furnish the commission with the actual audits and id i believe the reply was there is no paper trail of the audits occurring. Is that correct . Thats correct. And these audits are not intended as the unit order says, the audits are not intended to generate a report, but rather to rather remediate the issue. And then there is this line in the order that says finding of quarterly or annual audits regarding lawful, accurate and compliant data entries shall be tracked in an enumerated record mechanism such as a computerized spreadsheet to be safeguarded by seiu. The result results will be stored and for systemic analysis by icu. In an effort to continuously address deficient findings by developing and applying corrective measures. So as i read the order it does, i think pretty clearly state that there should be an audit that is stored or do i have that wrong . So we do store the records of the remediation. And i also but thats not what the sentence says. The sentence says the audits will be stored. So it sounds like thats not happening despite the order clearly saying the audits need to be themselves stored. So people can follow up and review what happened in the past. So what what we have is the record that is the notification is the record of the outstanding items. We have that on file. Its all available. The other thing we have and i think sarge youngblood helped me out and came and grabbed the summary that we have. We do have a summary that shows each year of those findings and then the outcomes of the remediation. Great. If you could provide the commission with the summaries, we would appreciate that. And apologies for not making the friday deadline. We were late. Notice no worries. No worries at all. My other big question is just why was the audit designed just to check this one relatively insignificant ministerial thing . I mean, the unit order starts with this lofty language about the importance of ensuring the integrity of our data public, transparent and accountability, and then of all the things we could be auditing, we kind of picked something that wasnt it probably not the most, i think you would agree, significant thing that we could be checking in the data, right . Yeah so again, in the order ideally we know allows us for that expansion and contraction of scope as as we are able to absorb it. The the and yes the laudable goals at the very beginning of the unit order are something that we strive for. And so all of that said, there is a need in our department and the chief and i have talked about it on on several occasions. And i think ive been sort of, as commander jones said, singing it from the top of the rooftops, that we need some sort of data to review data audit and integrity unit kind of a thing. And that is something that were hoping to pursue. All right. I guess, yeah, i guess there just seems to be a big gap to me between what this unit order is directing the department to do and what was actually done. As i understand it, our audit practices are design and specifically not to detect what would be the most common ways to falsify my data. Right. Or to have the integrity of our data set called into question right. If someones just making up entries, that wouldnt be detected if someones falsified saying the race of a motorist, that wouldnt be detected as you know, theres now been allegations made that that occurred. Someones not making making a stop and not entering the data that wouldnt be detected. So why why was our audit process specifically designed not to detect any of these kind of what we would think would be the most common way someone might falsify stop data . Really, i think that its not that it was designed not to detect. It was designed to meet the capacity of one sergeant who has a plate that is overly full. And so i think thats thats one aspect of it. The other aspect of it is that i think in a know that we have a cri update coming soon on that there are elements of the outstanding 27 recommendations that will capture the some of those things that that the sf standard talked about. Right. So were currently is it then your view that were not in compliance with the cri recommendations requiring auditing of our stop data as, as , as it currently stands, at least im happy to look into that more closely and, and come back to the commission and talk about that. But really stuck to the focus of the unit order tonight. Chief do you have any comment on this . I know you didnt issue this unit order, but i do find it troubling that were finding out from a newspaper whos taking the time to look through our stop data about alleged id i should emphasize alleged you know, misconduct that was if it is true extremely brazen and could have been caught immediately with even the most cursory review of our data. So this this is happening right under our nose and we have this 2021 unit order thats thats saying we need to have comprehensive audits of our stop data to make sure that you know, that our that our data, you know, to verify the integrity of our data. And to frame this the right way. The newspaper article that youre talking about is in reference to the ongoing investigation. I believe it included the investigation, but it also included other other instances that are that are separate from the ongoing disciplinary case. Yeah the you know, i know some of these types of things are more apparent than others that say, you mentioned false, false data in order for that to happen. I do believe that theres processes like reviewing Body Worn Camera and things like that that we currently dont have in place. And thats was stated as to some of the reasons why. And i dont remember the word for word news article, but what i will say on this is that if we get the capacity and build the capacity to be more rigorous on some of these spot checks and audits, it may pick some of this up, but in order to guarantee me that this doesnt happen, every record basically has to be looked at. So we need to build our capacity and, you know, do it within the policies in terms of reviewing Body Worn Camera and things like that. But i do believe we can and will do better on on these things. But we do have to build the capacity in order to do that. You know, it does take a lot of personnel. Right. But but with respect, this is not a capacity issue. Right in the news article said for example, and i havent looked at it in the weeks since it was published, but i think one un member had 11 or 1200 stops and all. But 5 or 6 of the people were white. So thats something that could be detected with an excel pivot table in seconds. So thats not a capacity issue. Thats a decision that we made not to look for certain types of red flags in our own data. And i guess thats what im most concerned with. And i dont know the news article, but i mean, may i ask you to clarify what you said . 1100 stops in 11 or 12 were five or all all all the people stopped were white except for 5 or 6 is my recollection of the what the article reported. Yeah. And how did this reporter determine that they were white . I dont know, because i didnt read the news article word for word. But thats thats what the cdc data set. Thats what the stop data set from one officer. My point is that detecting Something Like that, it doesnt take investment in resources. It can be detected quickly. Weve just made the decision that were not going to look for it. So if i hear you correctly, youre saying that we should look at because all but 11 were white. That should be a red flag. Yes. That seems statistically highly improbable. Right yeah, it could be. Yes. Yes, it could be. And i think to the directors point, you know, these audits are have to be based on something more tangible than a hunch, i believe. And for instance, if you have a what whether youre using traffic data or some some database to determine what is in the norm. And thats part of what our hopefully when we get this dashboard up and running, well be able to better detect those things. But im not so sure that that is, you know, the measurement that needs to trigger an audit. You know, if an officer, lets say an officers work in a certain assignment, gangs and theyre dealing with primarily somebody from whatever ethnicity those gangs are comprised of, are we going to say, oh, you stopped . You know, no thousand. Im sorry, thats a very separate issue than what im im im saying, are we even going to look in the first instance . Yes, i guess ill just leave it at this. I think the commission should re agendize this issue at a later time, right . Yeah because i do think we need to have a discussion with possible action agenda item where we discuss the possibility of directing as we discussed last week, directing dpa and an outside partner perhaps to do an audit. This issue is not unique to our department, as you know very well. Chief you know the United States department of justice is investigating the connecticut state troopers over a stop data issue. And other jurisdictions have had similar allegations lodged against them. So i dont i think that we should be a leader on this issue and not and not be and be proactive about ensuring that our stop data is accurate and can be relied upon by the commission and to make policy and can be relied upon by the public. Yeah. And i dont disagree with that at all, but i will say this and this kind of trails into our last conversation about traffic stops and officers engagement. The point that im trying to make with that example you gave with the newspaper is if were using things like, oh, you stopped a thousand, you know, you name the race, therefore were going to assume that youre doing something various that is a deterrent for officers wanting wanting to get out there and do the job. And all im saying is whatever the audit process is, it needs to be clear. It needs to be fair, it needs to be above board in terms of not accusing an officer of misconduct out of something other than a good standard to trigger. Why we are looking into that. Officer that is a wet blanket in terms of officers wanting to get out there and do the job. And were not saying dont hold officers accountable. Thats not what im saying at all. What im saying is the process needs to be fair so people will believe that if i get out there and do whats being asked of me, im not going to be subject to some witch hunt type of audit. Thats all im saying. Okay. Yeah, thats i dont think anyone can disagree with that. Thats not whats being discussed. Whats being discussed is are we going to do a real audit at all . And were not doing that. Were using our resources on Something Else. Instead commissioner yanez. Thank you. Vice president carter oversaw and i do too, believe that we do need to agendize this with an action item. Its very clear that this the decisions that were made to staff a very essential element of our Accountability Measures were not , you know, the decisions were not made as far as investing the necessary resources. And if what our framework for, you know, auditing this data is solely to see if someone submitted a document after weve spent so much time saying that you know, filling out this report information is taking away from our officers actually, you know, being on the streets, it just sounds like, you know, were not serious about accountability and transparency. And unfortunately , its you know, overwhelmingly people of color who are being impacted by these decisions. And its just unfathomable to me to know that a sergeant allegedly stopped 1200 white people, only and that there were only six other people from some other ethnicity who committed some type of offense in front of that. Sergeant and i say this with a smile because it is unbelievable to me that we have allowed, condoned, supported and almost uplifted this level of disregard, disregard for the transparency that this commission is expected to provide. And when that information is minimized and damaged and just improperly submitted. And were not even looking to see whether theres a pattern of misconduct, i think we need to look at ourselves at the leadership level to see what we need to do differently. And yes, we need an action item and were going to need to probably look at all the stop data, reconcile all ethnicity. And ive said this before, i suspect that these things are happening , but not as brazenly as they seem to be. And obviously theres an investigation and this is one article, but i agree with Vice President oberstar, carter that it shouldnt take an outside entity to comb through our records and find this out and expose us in this fashion. You know . So, yes, lets agendize this, please, for another day. Commissioner walker. Yes. You know, i agree with you, chief scott. I think its a wonder that anybody pulls anybody over at all because i. I dont understand those numbers. And we dont know where they were, where they were looking at for the stop that indicated that there were such a predominant number of caucasian asian drivers pulled over. For the direction in around traffic stops. Is changing, or at least the messaging from this commission changes depending on sort of what were working on. So its again, one of the issues that i have is there are conflicting directions in different egos all over the place. And i have to say that if i was a Police Officer, i would kind of wonder what im supposed to do at any given point. I think its time that we should actually make commissioner honors go through the academy and figure out how it is to be an officer because i just i think that i dont know. I mean, this just it sort of drives me crazy. And im sure that its driving the officers crazy. So chief scott, thank you. Vice president carter. So i just want to just comment on the discussion. You know, the comment about and i know you meant no disrespect, commissioner yanez, but, you know, newspaper article unvalidated. Yes, it deserves a look. But to make a statement as if that sergeant has done something wrong is part of the problem that were dealing with based on a newspaper article. Hey, if the investigator in vets that an and get it all bets are off but the point that im trying to make is this is on one hand we were pushing go out there and write tickets go out there and do this, go out there and do this and then we read a newspaper article and basically you just you know, sir, you just painted this sergeant as if that sergeant has done something wrong with no validation, no proof. And i know you didnt mean it that way, but its a problem because this is the very thing that officers complain about. You ask us to do a job. What if that sergeant did nothing wrong . And. And were basing this off a newspaper article. Its a real problem. And this the job that were asking these officers to do, i think, is not too much to ask. Hey, hold hold us accountable. All all the points that have been made about the auditing process. Yeah, we need to do better. And all are all valid. But when you Start Talking about this sergeant who was a person and telling the public that this is suspect and this sergeant has done something that is not right in my opinion, and that does is discourage people from wanting to get out there and do the job that were asking them to do. If i could respond, since you did respond directly to my comment. There isnt investigation on on one individual. There is a statement in an article about information that that we would have liked to have come from the department itself if and when we have spent the last at least me , 18 months plus and this commission for years trying to get to the root of why there is a 25 to 1 discrepancy in use of force against African Americans. And yet we dont see this as something essential to devote time and energy to and even if it is a suspicion allegation. And we will find out whether that sergeant actually pulled over 1200 white people versus, as you know, the six others that he claimed he pulled over. As far as the way the data is being reported, i, i can still and i will still say that that is something concerning and that if i was that individuals leader, i would pull that person aside and figure out what is going on. And i believe i said this when i first started on this commission. I do not understand why were not looking at these numbers individually per unit, per division, per station. And but these things obviously require time and energy and we have to have the right framework. I agree with you on that. It but why havent we devoted the resources to it . Why is there one person there trying to analyze this information and ensure that were collecting it . Yeah thank you, chief. There are two people in the queue and i just want to get two people in order and. And i and i will say, i do feel like the or maybe youre talking past each other and the issues are being a little bit confused. This is not about any one officer. And i didnt take commissioner yanezs comments to be directed at, you know, whether the allegations made in a newspaper are true or not. The only question on agenda today is it looks like sfpd is buried its head in the sand and decided that its not going to even look in the first instance to know if there is a problem with the data. Thats all were talking about. Do we even want to know the answer . Do we want to know if our data is accurate and reliable, or do we want to just not even take the time to look at it at all . Thats the only thing this discussion about. Its not about any particular officer. The. Im sorry, acting director rosenstein. Im sure if i may humbly suggest commissioner walker, maybe the patrol specialist, can go to the academy as well with you guys. If you go. Might be a good idea. Yeah but aside from that, what is most concerned about when it comes to this issue . I shouldnt say most, but one of the big concerns we have is that the Collaborative Reform Initiative of finding number 77 says that sfpd does not conduct routine ongoing organizational audits, even where such practices are established in policy. And the recommendation in which was number 77. 2, was that sfpd should develop an auditing plan and schedule for both routine and risk audits within 90 days of issuance of this report, staffing resource and Training Need to be allocated to the process to ensure an active and robust auditing schedule and in response to this recommendation , an sfpd created unit order 2021 and submitted it to the i cant remember if it was hillard hines at the time or who it was since this was 2021, with a recommendation, with a request that they be found in substantial compliance with that particular recommendation. So that and that the unit order would solve these issues. And based on that, the creation of that unit order and the way that it was worded, there was a decision made that the department of justice finds that sfpd is in substantial compliance with this recommendation. However sfpd should ensure that it adequately staffs icu to meet sfpds auditing goals. So thats right. Now, when this was flagged, i think this was one issue that dpa was concerned about is that this order was created in order to substantially comply with that recommendation. And in light of this presentation, we have concerns about whether it does or not. Commissioner benedicto, thank you very much. Vice president carter. I think there has been a little bit of talking past each other here, and i think its important to note that that setting aside whatever individual allegations might be in in reporter articles, that thats not what what were here talking about and were not here to prejudge any ongoing investigations and to the extent that that impression was given, i dont think any commissioner intended to do that. What and this is also not about and again, i want to make clear that it shouldnt be about exposing officers to the chief described as sort of witch hunts or as commissioner walker described. Oh, if i do one thing, is this going to affect me . This is about looking for behavior that is was called out by the department of justice and behavior that is potentially so egregious that it is it is misconduct. And like the Vice President said, this is not unique to this department in doing research. I think there are over half a dozen departments that are currently facing issues and whether from their their own civilian orders and their commission equivalents or the department of justice or outside organizations about the their consistent use of stop data and whether or not there is there are issues of fraudulent reporting of data. And i think thats a concern, one that i know, chief you and this department have have expressed. You know, this strong commitment to making sure that were leaders on reform and were seeing, again, half a dozen or more departments that are showing that they have issues about this Data Collection. And i think its incumbent on this department to assert that leadership that and lead on this because what were talking about isnt, you know, oh, little mistakes or disparities that officers were talking about potential fraudulent entry that is misconduct. And so i think its important that we look lead on this because as i mentioned last week, the only way this commission can make policy is by looking at evidence and data. Not a week goes by that one of the of us is not talking about we need more data on this. We want more specific data on this. And we need to rely on that to make the important decisions that we make. And the risk that the data that were looking at, it can be corrupted and that were looking at that it undermines the foundations of our ability to make good policy. And so thats, i think, why this issue is important and should be agendized not because some specific thing was said in some specific newspaper article, not because of any specific behavior or ongoing investigations, but because we as a department, as a system, its incumbent on us to make sure that were vigilant against this sort of Data Collection fraud and that were leading to make sure that were being accountable. So i just wanted to make sure that that that that point was made great. Sergeant, could you take us to Public Comment, please, for members of the public, theyd like to make Public Comment regarding line item nine, please approach the podium. And there is no Public Comment. Line item ten Public Comment on all matters pertaining to item 12 below closed session, including Public Comment on item 11 vote whether to hold item 12 in closed session. If youd like to make Public Comment regarding closed session, please approach the podium. There is no Public Comment. Line item 11 vote on whether to hold item 12 in closed session, including a vote on whether to assert the Attorney Client privilege with regard to item 12, San Francisco administrative code. Section 67. 10 action motion to go into closed session and assert the Attorney Client privilege with regards to item 12 second, on the motion, commissioner walker, how do you vote . Yes commissioner walker is yes. Commissioner benedicto. Yes. Commissioner benedicto is yes. Commissioner yanez. Yes. Commissioner janez is yes. Commissioner byrne yes. Commissioner byrne is yes. Commissioner yee yes. Commissioner yee is yes. Vice president carter overstone yes. Vice president robertson is yes. We vote to elect whether to disclose any or all discussion on item 12 held in closed session, including a vote on whether to assert the Attorney Client privilege with regard to item 12, San Francisco administrative code. Section 67. 10 action motion not to disclose any items in closed session. Second. Yeah. Okay many members of the public, theyd like to make Public Comment regarding line item 13. Please approach the podium. Im seeing none on the motion. Commissioner walker, how do you vote . Yes mr. Walker is. Yes. Commissioner benedicto . Yes. Mr. Benedicto is. Yes. Commissioner yanez. Yes. Mr. Yanez is. Yes. Commissioner burns. Yes. Commissioner burn is yes. Commissioner yee. Yes. Commissioner yee is yes. You have five yeses. Fine. Item 14, an adjournment. All right. All right. Are adjourned. I came here to San Francisco the day after september 11. I have been here since and homeless since when i met erika and claudia and them, my life changed. For the better. Why they got mow in the navigation center. Good morning hi. This is claudia and aircraftasm how are you. Hi. They are working doing out reach t. Is building trust. And finding out what their needs are. Everybody who i should be housed that is true. A lot of people dont know how to live indoors and how do we fix that . The Number One Service this we need to do that is the new vision of the team, is to be a familiar face that is consistent and reoccur nothing the community. Behavioral Health Starts with us and other coalitions that relate. Just building the friendships and the resource this is go with that. Once hi near i better place they will be able to help and support someone else. Peers and inspire someone based on the hard work. 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You can spend as time you want and you dont have to make reservations and its important to be free because we want them to develop a love for cable cars so they do continue to support whether they live here or other places and people come in and say, yes, i have passed by and heard of this and never come in and they always enjoy themselves. People love cable cars and theres none left in the world so if you want to ride a cable car, youve got to come to San Francisco. That what makes the city. Without the cable cars, you lose part of that, you know, because people who come here and they love it and they love the history ask they can ride a cable car that has been running since 1888 or 1889. Wow thats something. Cant do that with other historical museums. Rarely, have i run into anybody from outside who didnt come in and didnt feel better from knowing something about the city. Its a true experience youll remember. I hope they walk away with a greater appreciation for the history, with the mechanics with people are fascinated by the winding machine and i hope the appreciation, which is a part of our mission and these young kids will appreciate cable cars and the ones who live here and other places, they can make sure there will always be cable cars in San Francisco because once they are gone, they are gone. Its the heartbeat of San Francisco that founded the cable and the slot and without the cable cars, yeah, we would lose something in San Francisco. We would lose part of its heart and soul. It wouldnt be San Francisco without cable cars. [bell ringing]