Transcripts For SFGTV SF Police Commission 20240711

[pledge of allegiance]. Thank you, and as always, if i could ask for the commissioners to mute their microphones. If you would like to be heard, just put your name in the chat box. Members of the public who are dialing in, i would ask you to please mute any background noise so that we can hear you and there is no feedback. The dial in number is [indiscernible] 0001, access code 146424 [indiscernible]. You will have two minutes for Public Comment. Please call the roll. [roll call]. You have quorum. [indiscernibl [indiscernible]. Thank you. Im getting a lot of feedback, so im going to ask everyone again to please mute your microphones. Please call the first line item. Line item one [indiscernible] meeting of september 16 [indiscernible] of 2020. Do i have a mover . [indiscernible]. Second. Public comment [indiscernible] regarding the adoption of minutes. Please call 41565 0001, access code 1464241219, press pound, pound again and then hit star three to raise your hand. For members of the public that are already logged in, please press star 3 now if youd like to make Public Comment on line item one. There is no Public Comment. Is anyone else [indiscernibl [indiscernible]. A lot of background noise, yes. [indiscernible] and i dont know if youre able to mute people on your end, sergeant, but that might be helpful. Is that better . It sounds better to me, yes. Okay. All right. On the motion for the adoption of minutes, commissioner how do you vote. Yes. Commissioner elias. Yes. Elias yes. Commissioner . Yes. [indiscernible] how do you vote. [indiscernible] and i have not reviewed the minutes thoroughly. [indiscernible]. Yes. Commissioner, unfortunately under the charter were not allowed to recuse yourself. [indiscernible]. Commissioner cohen is aye on the adoption of the minutes. And commissioner taylor you have five yes. Okay, please call the next line item. Line item two, reports for the commission. Chiefs report. Provide an overview of events occurring in San Francisco. Major significant incidents, provide a summary of planned activities in advance. This will provide a brief overview of any unplanned events or activities occurring in San Francisco having an impact on Public Safety. Discussion on activities determining whether the calendar for future needs. Presentation of the fdrb findings and recommendations and investigative summaries Third Quarter 2020 and presentation of family [indiscernible] through june 30, 2020. Okay. [indiscernible]. Good evening. Hi, president taylor, commissioners. Welcome back, commissioner cohen, and congratulations. And good evening, chief of staff hawkins. Ill start the presentation with the crime trends for the week. Ill start with the not so good. We continue to see rise in burglaries year to date. We are 44 above where we were this time last year. I would like to say of note there was a significant arrest made in connection to several garage theft burglaries, which is one of our areas that we were really trying to focus on in the city. An arrest was made on october 30, and during that arrest and subsequent search warrant 18 bicycles and one scooter that had been reported stolen was recovered from this particular individuals residence. That brings a total of 15 suspects arrested over the past two months in connection with garage thefts. Our investigation [indiscernible] continues to work leads in those cases, and again, we are really trying to focus on the significant or individual that we identified because of their criminal history to be chronic offenders, and hopefully that will bring it down and make a dent in not having as many victims. I want to just remind our residents in the city please secure your garages, lock your bikes when you can, scooters, regardless of whether or not they are stored in the garage. We know how difficult it can be, and sometimes what we find is some residences are easier than others to victimize, so please secure your garages, lock your bikes, even if its in the garage. Please register your bike, and can you do that through sf safe, and if you go on their website, www. Sfsafe. Org you can register your bike online, and that really does make a difference when we recover stolen bicycles or if we come across a chop shop investigation when bicycles are registered we are able to return them to the owners. Unfortunately for the 18 that were recovered, we were fortunately for the 18 that were recovered we were able to return many to the owners. In terms of other property crime, we are continuing to add this portion to our year for burglary which was down 43 year to date in reduction of car burglaries when compared to 2018 were down 45 and when compared to 2017 when we were at our height we are down 53 . So again, same strategy, focusing on those that we believe because of their criminal history to be prolific, many of the individuals that we come in contact with are working in an organized fashion, and we are also trying to identify crews that are victimizing people in our city and addressing those crews. In terms of violate crime, we are down year to date 22 . However, as i have reported in Previous Commission meetings, we are up in homicides, and that is concerning. We have right now to date have 42 homicides which exceeds last years total. We ended the year in 2019 at 41 and we are already up to 42 with seven weeks left in the year. At this time last year we had 33 homicides. The good news is that we did not have any homicides or we have not yet had any homicides this month yet. There were five homicides in october, and of the yeartodate homicides, 22 of the 42 very cleared, which is 55 of this years homicides. Our overall clearance rate for the year is 71 , and that includes previous years homicides that have been cleared this year. Looking at this district, eagleside has the largest increase. They have gone from 2 in 2019 to 8 to yeartodate this year. Tenderloin has a 38 increase going from 8 last year to 11, and the majority of those homicides are firearmrelated homicides. In terms of gun violence, we are up 22 for the year. There have been 130 shooting incidents resulting in 135 victims of gun violence. 26 of those have been fatal, and 109 of the 135 have been nonfatal. We had five shooting incidents last week that caused injuries to five victims. In terms of the district stations, the districts with the largest increase in gun violence are tenderloin, which is a 110 , 10 last year, up to 21 this year. Eagleside is 100 increase, 8 last year and 15 year to date. Mission had 67 increase in gun violence, 9 compared to 15 this year and bayview has a 29 , 35 last year versus 45 this year. Central area and central district, Northern District and Southern District all have double digit decreases in gun violence. Central has a 53 decrease. Three this year compared to eight last year, and northern has a 40 decrease, six this year versus ten last year and southern has a 13 decrease, eight this year versus nine last year. In terms of significant events for the past week, a few things on homicide. We did make an arrest of three suspects from a 2019 homicide that occurred on december 20, 2019. In that case we had two victims in their vehicle near the Southwest Corner of leaven worth and ellis when the suspects vehicle pulled up next to them and opened fire striking the passenger who succumbed to her injuries. On october 27 our investigators served a search warrant at various locations in San Francisco and as a result three suspects were arrested. One of the suspects is booked for the murder, a gun was recovered in that with those search warrants, and that is good news in the arrest in that case. Other significant incidents this week are we made an arrest on a series that occurred in the Pacific Heights community over the past several months. On october 29 our Northern District plains clothed teams spotted the subject matching the person suspected in these crimes. A subject who approached females and then sexually battered them, touching or squeezing their buttocks and then fleeing from the scene. The officers identified a suspect who matched the description and actually made an arrest in this case after conducting a surveillance. We also used a decoy operation in order to bring this case to resolution. The officer and the decoy operation was placed out on the street in the area where the suspect had been seen or victimizing his victims. The suspect followed the decoy officer for several blocks, and when they reached the area of 3200 block of clay the suspect came up from behind and sexually battered the decoy officer. The suspect tried to flee and officers were able to apprehend him without incident and took him into custody. So that crime has been solved and hopefully we wont see other people victimized by this individual. Another arrest of note on yesterday, investigators from the San Francisco Police Department in conjunction with the oakland p. D. , the department of Homeland Security, a county and the sheriff and the unified Police Department of another area actually made an arrest on a two suspects, actually, who sexually exploited a number of students. These were internetbased crimes, and this [indiscernible] from the San Francisco Police Department with our internet crimes against children unit, also known as icac. In this investigation we determined that one of the subjects that created dozens of social media accounts across various platforms using false names and profiles. In some cases the subject pretended to be a minor engaged in chats with unsuspecting victims. Once contact was made, the victims were solicited for sexually explicit images and videos, and if the victim refused, the subject allegedly used means to extort victims, threats of physical harm, to either the victims or their families, and also to circulate photos obtained by other means at their school. By using software, the subject was able to determine the approximate location of the victims. The investigation revealed that eight minors ranging in ainge from 11 to 14 years old living in the area and utah were victims of this particular suspect. When search warrants were executed, devices and other materials were found that linked the subjects and his accomplice to these crimes. Due to the nature of the crimes and the area in which the crimes were committed, which was across state lines, the u. S. Attorneys office of the Northern District of california is lead on prosecuting this case. Again, the agencies who assisted were the San Francisco Police Department, the department of Homeland Security security, oakland Police Department and the unified Police Department of the greater salt lake area and utah. The next thing is just want to give an update on any incidents related to elections. I know there was a lot of anxiety, not only in our city, in our region, but across the country on potential unrest because of the election results. The good news is that we have not had anything in our city to date. There have been cities across the country that have had incidents, isolated incidents in several of the cities of unrest. Some violence and vandalism and the like, but we have not had any of that or experienced any of that in San Francisco. We did have one incident yesterday at a polling location that required sfpd response. In that case the subject showed up at two separate polling stations acting erratically. We were called. We actually responded at the second location, and that subject was located and actually arrested. He hasnt [indiscernible] locations and that caused some concern with many individuals. So we actually contacted him and arrested him. As far as demonstrations, there were there was one small demonstration today in front of a mission station. No incidents, no violence, not a large turnout, but it was uneventful and no problems there. At this time there are a few planned events for this weekend that we will be deployed for. We dont really know when the election will be officially called or a winner will be officially declared, so we will be deployed and staffed up until that happens, and then depending on what happens, when theres a winner declared, we will step up accordingly. So far so good. We are prepared for whatever comes our way as best we can be, and we are communicating with our local departments in the area, as well as our federal partners to make sure that that information is being communicated about whats happening elsewhere outside of San Francisco. So that is it for this portion of the report. If theres any questions from the commission . I see questions in the chat. Thank you. [indiscernible]. Next we have the activity. We have commander osullivan with the fdrv findings and recommendations, or deputy chief i cant see whos actually on. [please stand by]. Next slide please. Since the last presentation to the Police Commission, the in custody review board reviewed the following in custody death investigations. 15. 001, 16. 002, and 17001. Next slide please. In custody deaths, 15001. On april 3, 2015, bayview station officers responded to a call at 145 recording a trespasser. They contacted a male subject and placed him under arrest for an outstanding warrant. The subject was transported to bayview station and processed for booking. The subject was later transferred to the county hill number one to be subject stated, yeah, i do want to kill myself. The untake nurse was cleared by the Psychiatric Emergency Services at San Francisco again hospital. The subject became agitate and starting yelling. San francisco sheriffs deputies held down the subject and continued to resist. The subject was take on the the ground by the deputies and restrained by continued his resistance. The officers on scene requested medics to respond to sally port. The medics and officers on the scene held the resisting subject by holding him down. There was no reportedable use of force by the San Francisco Police Officer. When the medics arrived, they injected the subject with perced, a sedative. And one sfpd officer rode with the medics. While envut route, the subject stopped breathing and had no pulse. The medics began c. P. R. And there was a pulse. The subject was admitted to the intensive care unit. On april 6, the subject was pronounced deceased. At the conclusion of the investigation and the recommendation of the internal Affairs Investigation, we found that the officers acted in policy with regards to use 5. 01, the use of force, 6. 14 the psychological evaluation of adults, and 8. 12 incustody death policy. Next slide please. Incustody death 16. 002. On june 18, 2016, about 9 24 in the evening, tenderloin station officers were dispatched to 41 jones regarding a male subject with a nice attempting to force his way into the building. Upon arrival, officers conducted an investigation and subsequently arrested the subject and take on the tenderloin station for processing. That station was subject indicated to require Blood Pressure medication and therefore was not placed in a holding cell. About 1 26 in the morning on june 19, the subject was transported to the county jail number one. At the county jail the intake nurse refused to admit the subject due to the high Blood Pressure. He was transferred to San Francisco general to be medically cleared prior to booking. The subject was treated, provided a prescription for Blood Pressure medication and medically discharged. The officers later advised they did not know the medical staffed a ministered any medication to the hospital while he was at San Francisco general. While escorting the subject back to the patrol wagon, the officer was shaking and ambulatory but had some difficulty walking. The subject was transported back to county jail one about 4 5 an in the morning, upon his return to county jail one, the subject had difficulty walking and was sweating profusely and appeared confused and disoriented. The intake nurse medically refused the subject again and the worsened condition and the ambulance was requested. While waiting the ambulance, he was placed in a temporary holding cell. The subject stopped breathing and c. P. R. Was initiated. The ambulance transported the subject to San Francisco general where he was pronounced deceased at 6 19 in the morning. Based on the internal Affairs Investigation and the recommendations from the internal Affairs Investigation, it found that the officers acted in policy with regard to general order 5. 01, 6. 14, psychological evaluation of adults, 81. 12 incustody deaths. There were some policy violations that were found, but based on the investigation, those were found not to have contributed to the incustody death. Next slide please. Incustody death 17. 001. On march 11, 2017, mission station officers responded to just 2200 Market Street and restaurant. The call was regarding a male patron who was being aggressive and breaking windows and harming himself. The subject was being restrained by other patrons. The officers took over who was actively resisting and pleading from a cut to the wrist. He was still actively resisting in custody and he was kicking at the officers. The subject was placed in a position of recovery and moved to a seated position and he continued to resist the officers. The San Francisco Fire Department medics arrived on scene and administered a sedative to the subject and the medics were able to treat the lacerations. The subject was placed on a medical backboard and handcuffed and hobbles were removed. Soft restraints were applied to the subject and tired to the backboard to restrict the movement. The officer noticed the subject was tonight in responsive and recognized he had no pulse and was not breathing. The officers on scene immediately began to perform c. P. R. On the subject while he was take on the the ambulance until relieved by the medics. The subject was transported to San Francisco general and at the time the officers were advised the subject was in critical but stable condition. On march 24, 2017, the San Francisco general notified the San Francisco medical examiner that the subject deceased as of that day f the during the investigation by internal affairs found that the officers were in policy reviewed the use of force and 8. 12 the in. Custody deaths and 10. 11 with the body one camera that ewas worn. Active and criminal investigations that 180 o 5 and 20001 were recently heard at firearms discharge and these are the five remaining incustody deaths that have criminal or administrative investigations ongoing. And that is the end of the presentation. I have one question and i also see a question from my fellow commissioners. All these were found to be in policy, but was the cause of death determined for any of these . I do have for 17001, tiff medical examiners investigation determined that the subject died of complications of i cant say this word. Anoxic and it says encephalopathy due to methamphetamine exposure while under Law Enforcement constraint and obesity. The matter of death was ultimately deemed an accident. That was 17001. I dont have the other ones but i can get that information for you, commissioner. Commissioner elias . Thank you. I wanted to thank you for presenting on this. The question i had is with respect to the incustody death of 16002, you mentioned in the letter that the chief wrote dated september 1 which indicates with respect to the incident there was inpolicy but also an out of policy element to that incident which isnt reflected in the power point. I am still unclear to why because i was present during this fdrd and this one didnt sit well with me. But i am wondering why on the power point slide it is within policy and the chiefs letter says it is within policy and out of policy is first question. My oversight on that that the in policy is with respect to the officers actions that were investigated and reviewed as where the actions of the officers, did though contribute to the death of the subject. The out of policy findings were transportation search on two members. And during the investigation they found that those two policy violations did not contribute to the death of the subject. It was a search. It was a search policy. Okay. I will clarify future presentations include include the visual of the recommendations in policy and which ones are out of policy. I will put those in future presentations. Thank you. That would be helpful and if the mes findings like commissioner taylor indicated is also important because in this one particularly because there was an is search issue with respect to the contraband which i think also played a role in it, i think its all tied together. Right. I think that information is important, so thank you for that. And my second question is to the chief. With respect to your letter, i read your letter and in your letter it indicates that dcle suggests in the future the photographs of officers and subjects in the incidents be eliminated from the presentation in order to main tan confidentiality. However, these fdrb hearings are confidential, so what confidentiality is there to be concerned with . It is a closed session event, a closed session not hearing, but event, if you will, where all these individuals are present in the room. I am not sure what confidentiality issues he is speaking of. Can i chief, can i clarify that one . Go ahead. Please. Commissioner elias, it was not more of confidentiality, it was more of bias in that the fdrb should not see or should not be presented with a personal picture of a criminal history, so we wanted to remove that information from the Decision Making process of whether an officers actions were in or out of policy. It is a matter as a booking photo and removing that information that we felt that our dcle felt was not relevant to the death, a persons criminal history or the booking photo. The way the letter is written is it indicates you wanted the criminal history omitted to eliminate bias toward the subject, but i didnt realize that also the pictures because during the hearings if you are referring to when they flash the picture on the screen. Correct. Of the subject. And the officer. Right. And so are you saying both officer and subject now there will be no photos . No photos will be portrayed when the officer will be portrayed in that the fdrb wants to see what the officer was wearing at the time of the incident. But for the subject, the picture and the criminal history is to be removed on all future presentations to remove any form of bias. Okay. And going back deputy chief, i heard the recommendation that the actual investigator presented because i have been to a few of these and it is very difficult it is like a game of telephone where there are a lot of specific factual issues that people have questions and unfortunately, they arent answered because the individual who conducted the investigation is not present. And they are unable to abc the specific questions. As you know, these reviews are very fact specific. And the policy and out of policy determination is really independent on specific facts. I think that is a well made suggestion and i would really encourage them or the department to adopt it. Absolutely, commissioner. As we go through these hearings and these reviews, were always looking at ways to improve the processes and make sure that all the information is presented and the people who or the investigators who have conducted the investigation are there so they can speak firsthand to a great level of specificity that somebody else cannot. Thank you. I appreciate the presentation. Commission, dejesus . So thank you. The coroner was one of the questions i was going to ask as well. I also want to clarify when you say 001 and 002, are we talking about from 2001 and 2002 . Are these that old . This is 15 is the year, commissioner. Thank you. That is it. And so let me ask you a question. In two of these it says that the medics came and gave some type of antianxiety type of drug and the people ended up dying. And that was interesting when you said that the coroner had methamphetamine in his system. I am just wondering if the drugs that they are giving them are contributing to the demise. That is, i guess, dr. Martin was with us in the room, and i dont remember specifically what he said, but there are studies out there and i guess it is the Research Study to further determine if it played a part in a persons death. I cant make that determination. Commissioner okay. And the coroners report, everyone just talked about why that is important and we can at least get some semblance or some idea of that. I also thaerd changes you discussed and that makes sense. Those are all the questions i have. Thanks. I have one followup question. I apologize. And that you were talking about not using photos which i think i agree not using booking photos, but the fdrb and theres a video that need to be shown and so we are only talking about booking photos for the subject, is that right . It is the photo but more importantly the criminal history. The criminal history should not be part or and it is not a factor of consideration. Got it. Okay. Commissioner . Thank you for the presentation. It is not a question but a follow up on commissioner dejesus that each of the subjects had been given perced and to find out how much from the Fire Department how much is given to each subject. Is it subjective . By height, by size, by weight . Its real interesting and thank you, commissioner dejesus, because that was at the forefront of my mind that we have folks in custody that are passing away and while the coroner may not say it is because of i dont see any other questions. So so dont let me stop you from that concludes that presentation. The next item is also the presentation of the commissioners and this is the july 1312020 quarter record with family code 6228 and the incident report release. If you have the document and 89 were related and with the the highest number and 86 within six to 10 days. And the vast majority were 65 for domestic violence. To page two, we will notice that we did have some delays in three of the cases. And one of the cases was due to our inability to get the proper identification from the requester so that took a little time. That still occurred within six to 10 days. The other two requests were reports or requests made on the wrong box checked and one was a Law Enforcement request and not the 6228 and another request did not include the case number to find the requests and the case number and read the report and later find out that it was a 6228 request the what we have done as the improvement to scan for the 6228 request when they come in, but now we will review all requests that they check the wrong box and missing information, we can that is from the with the turn around time is less than two days and the vast majority are made in english with two made in spanish. Thank you. I dont see any questions from my fellow commissioner. With that, tauch for your presentation. Next line item. 2b, dpa directors report. It will be limited to a brief description of dpa activities and announcement. Commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for a future Commission Meeting. Presentation of the monthny statistical report september 2020. The regular staff and so far this year we are at 682 cases up this year. And this is up from the same time last year where we were at 631 cases. In terms of case thaven closed we have closed a number of cases. This year at 769 so far. This time last year we were at 541 so part of that number is reflective of the volume of cases from that is year and the increase in case this is year. We have currently 350 cases that are pending and open. This time last year we had 409 cases that were open. And in terms of cases sustained, we are at 37 cases this time last year we were 71. We have 33 cases whose investigations have gone beyond nine months. This time last year we had 311 cases that had gone beyond nine months. In terms of cases mediated, we have mediated 32 cases so far this year. This time last year we mediated 27 cases. This is a new section that has been added. We have currently in cases that are pending with the chief, 31 cases pending right now. And we also have 13 cases that are pending with a Police Commissioners themselves. We also have a case tonight that is in closed session. And my lawyers and team and star are here for that as well. And in terms of the outreach since the last Commission Meeting on the 27th, we hosted a virtual Mediation Division 101 for Community Meeting for community members. We also attended both the terrabell and the mission Community Meeting where we were asked to speak about dpa for the audiences that came to the meetings. And on the 29th we had our virtual mediation conference that was an allday conference for the folks that do mediation with our office and training. On the 30th of october, we had a Stakeholder Engagement meeting. That was with the youth commission. They asked us to come and make a presentation to them. And also on the 30th we dpa with the San Francisco youth defenders participated in a panel talking about knowing your rights and understanding the role of dpa with youth and children. Thats where we are so far. I think that the next line item is for the statistical report so im going to talk briefly about that as well. This is a separate line and a separate line item, but i wanted to articulate the information is for the september statistical report. In september, d. P. A. Received 511 cases this received 51 cases this year compared with 64 case in the same period last year. The september case total was 4 higher and from january to september t decrease is reflective of that month from january to september and received a total of 627 new cases compared with the 568 cases filled during the same period in 2019. And the september year to date case total represents an increase. That concludes my report. Also, we have a number of my staff here available to call in for the agency or need help, we have folks on the call that are available and the individual case for closed session this evening. Thank you, director. I appreciate the new background that you have for us tonight. And i dont have any this is the first time i have done this at home and it didnt work here. I had to call Sergeant Youngblood and it was all terrible. But it worked. Here i am. Next line item. Sergeant youngblood. Line item 2c, commission reports. Commission reports will be limited to a brief description of activities and announcements. Commission discussion will be limited to determining whether the calendar any of the issues raised for future Commission Meeting. Commission president s report, commissioners reports and commission announcements and scheduling o f items identified for consideration at a future Commission Meeting, action. Okay. Please call the next line items. Next line item is Public Comment on line item two. To make comment, call 41565 a0001 with access code 1464241219 and hit pound and pound again. For those logged in press star 3 and raise your hand to make Public Comment on line item 2. So far we have one caller. Good evening, caller. You have two minutes. Commissioners, my fame is francisco decosta. And i was paying attention to the report by the chief. And the longer presentation that looks like something as if you are in a perry mason type of court case. I think that shouldnt be done as a presentation because the viewers at home cant even read what is being presented. So its just boring. So to the commissioners and to the chief, nobody is going to Pay Attention to you all because in order to Pay Attention to you all, you have to know something about the deliberation. You have to know something about the needs assessment. None of which was given in this one hour that we spent just listening to you all babbling around. And downtown and see all sorts of crimes. You come home and gunshots. And we know that our youth now have more guns than they ever had before. What do we hear in this presentation . Nothing about the safety of the people who pay their taxes. So why do we have commissioners . What type of policy making, deliberations are you involved with that improve our quality of life in San Francisco . People are leaving San Francisco in droves. Not because of the jobs. Not only because of the pandemic, but because of the safety. Thank you. I would just remind the public that for every Commission Meeting there is an agenda posted and along with an agenda on the Commission Website, there are the supporting materials for every presentation that you see, every document and every presentation that is discussed will generally have supporting materials that are available to the public if the public is interested in seeing them. I want to make sure that everyone knows that. Thank you. Any other callers . Yes. Good evening, caller. You have two minutes. Good evening, commissioners. Chief scott and executive director henderson. U am public defender and would like to register my agreement to rule 19002 out of policy. We should speak plainly. The shooting was illegal not just out of policy. For the public, the shooting involves and offduty officer who pulled the gun out and shot at a civilian because he was afraid of the person who had driven past him was trying to shoot him. I like the public am eager to find out what will happen here. This incident occurred more than a year ago. Why had it taken to long to reach the conclusion . It is obvious that the officer was excessive. It is important to note that the officer did not save the man with a gun but held something shiny. How many black and brown men died when officers saw something shiny and feared for their live when the men werent armed . The larger point is why is the officer not identifyed . Under California Law the record relating to the incident involving the discharge of a firearm at a person as the fdrb report clearly is no longer public it is public and no longer confidential. There is no reason to deidentify the officer. And even if some statutory exception is applicable, the department should should articulate that as a matter of policy. It is important to inform the public to what is happening. Thank you. Thank you. Any other callers . We have one more caller. Good evening, caller. You have two minutes. Can you hear me . Yes. This is paulette brown, and i am calling as usual concerning my son who was murdered august 14, 2006 and just hearing the chief saying that there have been 42 more homicides and half of them havent been solved. They caught them, but have they been convicted . I am still thinking about my son with the unsolved had had. As a mother, again, its been 14 years. And even though i am not in front of your faces right now, i am looking at you on my zoom thing and it is just im just wondering what else can we do to solve these unsolved homicides . For mothers like myself, so that we can have some kind of closure. I dont have any. I want to keep bringing my sons memory to the Police Commission so that no one will ever forget that i am still fighting so hard for my son to get justice so that my family can kind of settle somewhere. But i am just hoping that and i did speak with sergeant, agent, special agent kobe millstrong, and i will bring that up in the other Public Comment because i only have two minutes. But just if you could give another shout out about my son, i appreciate it. Thank you. The material and the flyers have been provided to the commission and are posted in the Commission Website in the 30d 30day correspondence. It is 4155754444. Those who saw the Police Commission know that she is is before us week to week. Please call that line. Thank you. There is no more Public Comment. Okay. Next line item. Line item 3, discussion and possible action to adopt a resolution urging the board of supervisors to authorize the chief of police to do retroactively accept and expend a grant in the amount of 185,242 from the California Commission on peace officer standards and training, post, for the project period beginning on october 15, 2020 and ending june 30, 2021. Discussion and possible action. Presenting is going to be director patrick. Good evening, Vice President taylor, commissioner scott, director henderson. I am the chief Financial Officer for the San Francisco Police Department. There are two resolutions that we are requesting commissioners approve for tonight. The first one is from the California Commission on Police Officer standards and training. The grant will be used to help develop and certify a limited English Proficiency course. Under a discipline environment. There are approximately 22 of San Francisco residents who have limited English Proficiency. Statewide this percentage is approximately 19 . With the grant funds, this course is certified and the Training Course will be made available to other Law Enforcement agencies throughout the state. And with that, if there are any questions from the commission, i will do my best to answer. Are there questions from the fellow commissioners . Do you want to go on the next one . And we can take a vote on this one. Whatever is easiest. I know that you are sharing a chair. So to present them both and then we will vote on them individually so you dont have to keep switching. Sure. The next resolution is from the California Department of parks and recreation from the division of boating and waterways. The grant will help pay for a thermal imageing camera and will replace an inoperable thermal imageing camera on our marine vessel. The existing camera has raeched the end of the useful life and is currently inoperable. And so this grant will help pay for its replacement. The equipment would be used to help locate search and rescue victims that may be located in water and californias operational safety where there might be poor visibility. And with that, if there is any questions on this resolution, i will do my best to answer them. I dont see any questions on this resolution either. So maybe that makes sense for Sergeant Youngblood to come back and we will take a vote and Public Comment on each item. I would like to read the line item into the record. Of course. That is last one that was just presented was line item 4, which was discussion and possible action to adopt a resolution urging the board of supervisors to authorize the chief of police to retroactively accept and expend a grant in the amount of 101,859 from the state of California Department of park and recreation, division of boating and waterways, for the sfpd marine unit for the project period beginning october 1, 2020 and ending september 1, 2021. Discussion and possible action. So for line item 3, i need a motion. Sergeant youngblood, line item 3 . Motion is to accept the resolution. Do i have a second . Second. All right. On the motion to accept the grant, commissioner dejesus. Will we take Public Comment . You are correct. For members of the public that would would like to make Public Comment on line item 3, 4155550001, access code 1464241429. And hit pound and pound again. For those connected, press star 3 right now to comment on line item three. And there is no Public Comment. Okay. All right. The motion to accept the grant for 185,242 on post training. Commissioner dejesus. Yes. [roll call vote] that passes with five yess. Lets move to the next line item. Line item four, we will need a motion and second. Motion. So moved. Second. Okay. Public comment . Members of the public that would like to comment on line item 4, dial 4156550001. Access code 1464241219, pound, and pound again. For members that are logged on, press star 3 to raise your hand if you would like to make Public Comment. Do you have a question, commission sner we can take it after we vote, though. Okay. I see no Public Comment, commissioners. All right. Call the vote. [roll call vote] on the motion to accept the grant for 101,859. You have five yess. Motion passes. Next line item, please. All right. Commissioner. It is all good. I meant to do it when the c. F. O. Was there and might be for chief. Just because of my curiosity, who writes these grants for us . Is it i cant remember her name. Is it kathrin . Who writes the grants and proposals. That is cfo youngs shot and we have a grant person that handles grants. Sometimes it depends on the grant. For instance, the grant that was written primarily by director and you all remember that grant we talked about with director sutton with the crime strategies update. That was written by director sutton with the unit and so really depends on the grant. And if there is a particular subject matter and expertise that is needed to form that portion to get the grant at whatever level it needs to be for competitive consideration. Gotcha. Thanks. And commissioner, i think on one of these at least the l. E. P. Grant Training Division i believe played a big role in the writing of that actual grant. It just depends on the grant and what is needed. Okay. Thanks. All right. Next line item. Line item 5, discussion and possible action to adopt revised Department Order. Action. Who is our presenter for this line item . Its me, Vice President taylor. Good evening. Good evening, Vice President taylor, commissioner, chief scott, director henderson, members of the community. I am captain james david and i will be presenting on Department Order 6. 19 victim of Violent Crime notification. I will give you a brief overview of the general order, some of the changes we made, acknowledge the members of the working group and take any questions. The general order with the it nos at district stations. Updates and changes and updated name and address changes for the Victim Services division of the district attorneys office. Noting that the San Francisco we passed a copy of the Violent Crime notification to the department general order so that officers will associate the form with the general order. At this time i would like to thank the department of Police Accountability to recognize the working group for the valuable time assisting the San Francisco Police Department. And the working group consists of dr. Geena rodriguez, chief of Victims Services and maria renoso. And Victim Services and the lead advocate for the homicide team. And the supervisor for the victims Services Division and street Violence Response Team for the San Francisco Police Department. And tenderloin housing clinic, and then director stephanie felder, San Francisco department of health and crisis services. Just like to say one of the main goals of the working group was to make sure that victims of Violent Crime were aware of and getting referrals to the services and resources they need. This is a positive step toward that goal. I will ask for a motion. Is there a motion . I was trying to type in my name, but that is okay. I will make the motion. I really am happy for the work that you are doing that is so important and that the victims and get them all the help we need and do the Victim Services and help with the Police Reports and do whatever you need to do and thank you for you and the task force for doing this and i move that we adopt this. Thank you. Can we get Public Comment . For members of the public that would like to make Public Comment i think director henderson, is he tries to speak . Is he . I dont see anything. Im sorry to interrupt you, Sergeant Youngblood. You have to put your name in the chat. I dont see everyone on the screen at the same time. We dont have it all together with this app on the phone that i am doing. I am fine. It was a mistake. All right. Public comment. Call 4156550001. And access code 146424. For members already on line, press star 3. It looks like there is one caller. Hi, caller. You have two minutes. Two minutes. I think you need to be more welcoming of public feedback. I am a disabled senior and pounced on by several officers while quietly standing in the checkout line at safeway during senior hour. My crime . I was wearing a small backpack. I had shopped at this safeway for 30 years. The police dragged me out of the store by my feet on my back. The officers could not even deescalate a calm situation. The Police Report said that i had been escorted out of the store. No mention of the police use of force. And some might say that is a coverup of the fact that Excessive Force is in use. The report also didnt mention the actions of the most aggressive officer, simply saying that he was present. This was pointed out to the d. E. A. Cha concluded that this was proper conduct. And apparently there were no corrective actions whatsoever and that is the primary concern of mine. If there should be any discussion on this matter, i would ask that it remain anonymous. This all came about because the store manager had it in her brain that the mayor prohibited backpacks in stores. That led to Excessive Force by police. I probably have been considered a friend of the police up until this incident. Thanks. Thank you, caller. Thank you. Any more Public Comment . There is no more Public Comment. Next line item. Is general Public Comment. At this time the public is welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes that are not on the agenda but that are within the subject matter jurisdiction. Did we vote on we did not vote on the dgo. And the caller got off topic. Am i missing that . And we need to vote. There is a motion and a second. And that could have been Public Comment for the dgo and ended up it was not. So lets call the roll for the vote for 6. 19. On the motion to adopt 6. 19. Commissioner dejesus . Yes. Good catch on that one. Elias . Yes. Yes. There is a lot of feedback. Yes, i am. I cant even hear you. I am voting yes. Vice president taylor, how do you vote . Vice president taylor is a yes. We have 6 yes 5 yess. I want to thank the department and all the members for the hard work on the d. G. O. It is very important as commissioner dejesus mentioned. Now the next line item. General Public Comment. At this time the public is now welcome to address the commission for up to two minutes on items that do not appear on the agenda but are within the subject jurisdiction of the commission pef Neither Police nor d. P. A. Personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions by the public but may provide a brief response. Comments or opportunities to speak during Public Comment period are available by calling 41565 a0001 and access doed 1464241219. Press pound and pound again. Press star 3 if you wish to make a comment. This will advise the moderator that you wish to speak and add you to the queue. You may submit Public Comment by emailing the secretary of Police Commission. Or written comments may be sent Via Postal Service to the Public Safety building at 1245 third street San Francisco, california, 94158. Members that are logged on, press star 3 now to raise your hand. And we have three Public Comments. Okay. Good evening, caller. You have two minutes. Hello. I am a volunteer with wealth and disparity in the black community. I am regarding our founder Felicia Jones who sent a letter i think via emailed to you and was resent this past week requesting the commissioners to meet in person to discuss sfpd reform and to work on the issue for many years and to work in collaboration but is concerning that you have not heard back from you. And very much like to see that change immediately. Thank you. Thank you. Next caller. Good evening, caller. You have two minutes. Thank you. Good evening, commissioners, d. P. A. Henderson, chief scott. My name is Lashon Walker and i am a steward and resident of the bayview. I couldnt get myself unmuted fast enough during chief scotts report, so it is not directly related to the report but i do have a question. I would like to know if during future reports you could share some information about foot patrols, particularly for the bayview. There used to be some foot patrol in the bayview and some of those officers were promoted out and they dont then get replaced. I would like to know if theyre going to be replaced and also if there is any data on any visual deterrent that a foot patrol might provide with actual Crime Statistics year to date related to corridors particularly where you dont now have foot patrol. Looking at crime data when you have foot patrols and looking at crime data when you dont have them. When you have them and dont have them. I would like to see those numbers because were missing that now in the bayview. I would like to have to find out if that can be presented at a future agenda item so that i can attend and hear the response to the information request that i am making. Thank you. Thank you very much. Chief, is that something that you could be prepared to present on at the next meeting or should be scheduled for a later date . Those are excellent questions. We can do that for the next meeting. I have the answer to that now, but it is not on the agenda, so we can do it the next meeting. If i may, a question and followup. Just a point of order. [please stand by] that study is out there. Its actually online for anybody who wants to look at it, and i can talk about that in more detail next week. Commissioner elias yeah, that would be helpful, chief, because we all get notifications when theres shootings and homicides, and in certain neighborhoods, we are concerned about that. So i know its resonated with me. So if you could present more on that in the next week, that would be good because wed like to hear more, so thanks, chief. And i see a very cute baby, but thats also not on the agenda, so well move onto the next line item if there are no other callers. Clerk we have one more caller. Vice president taylor okay. Clerk okay. You have two minutes. Yes, this is mrs. Paulette browns. I spoke with an officer, and i asked them about recanting about what they said about my son being in a gang. They said theres nothing that they can do because theyre reappealing. I asked him, does he have any kids, and he said well, he has a 13yearold boy. And i said, well, hes almost the same age. He said well, we werent trying to defame your son, we were saying he was affiliated. I said, whats the difference . I would go and take those mothers to church, and so then i would be affiliated. So were n he said well, were not trying to defend your son because he didnt kill anybody. I spoke with him for a half an hour. He said there was nothing he can do, and i was, like, then why am i speaking to you . But for that half an hour but the point is what im asking the commission is to, you know, if im asking if you can respectfully write a letter to the you know, the Police Commission write a letter to the department of justice and the Federal District court to, you know, correct the record about my son and he even said it. He said it to me, that your son were not defaming your sons character, but you did. I have all the records, i have all the files. And also, its in the complaint. I want to send you from the office of council of chief responsibility, 1800 pennsylvania avenue in washington, d. C. Ive already asked youngblood, you know, to give me an email, and i think he sent me one, so im trying to see if i can get this to you guys so i can get help. Clerk thank you, miss brown. Okay. Vice president taylor any other callers thank you, miss brown. Any other callers . Clerk one more caller. Vice president taylor okay. Clerk good evening, caller, you have two minutes. Hi. I spoke under item 5. You know, that should be under item 6 in the agenda. I am not looking for an apology because i was dragged out of safeway wearing a backpack, but i would like some sort of explanation or are you just telling the officers, go ahead and do the same thing again . Thank you. Clerk we have no more Public Comment. Vice president taylor next line item. Clerk line item 7, Public Comment on all matters pertaining to item 9 we low, closed session, including Public Comment on item 8, vote whether to hold item 9 in closed session. Members of the public who would like to make Public Comment on item 7 call 4156550001, enter the access code, press pound, and pound again. Members of the public who have dialed in, press , 3 now to make Public Comment on item 7. And we have no Public Comment. Vice president taylor okay. Next line item. Clerk line item 8, vote on whether to take item 9 in closed session, San Francisco administrative code 67. 10, action. Vice president taylor okay. Do i have a motion . Commissioner brookter yeah, so moved. Vice president taylor is there a second . Commissioner elias second. Clerk all right. On the motion to go into closed session, commissione session, [roll call] we do have a quorum, right . Thats correct. We can go into closed session shes back. Clerk all right. And commissioner cohen was aye. You have five yeses, commissioner. Vice president taylor great. Can w okay, call the next line item. Line item 10, disclose any or all discussion on item 9 held in closed session, San Francisco administrative closed session 67. 12a, action. Motion to not disclose. Second. Okay. The motion not to disclose. Commissioner dejesus, how do you vote . Yes. Commissioner elias, how do you vote . Yes. Commissioner, how do you vote . Yes. Commissioner cohen, how do you vote . Yes. How do you vote . Yes. President taylor yes, you have five yeses. All right. Public comment on for members of the public that would like to make Public Comment on line item 10, please call in. For those who are already logged on, please press star 3 now. No Public Comment . No Public Comment. Okay. All right. So do you want to go to line item 11 . [indiscernible]. Line item 11, adjournment, action item. Can i have a motion . Motion. Second. All right, on the motion to adjourn, commissioner dejesus, how do you vote . Yes. Commissioner elias, how do you vote . Yes. Commissioner rukter, how do you vote . Yes. Commissioner brukter, yes. Commissioner cohen . Aye. Taylor how do you vote . Yes. Vicepresident taylor is yes. You have five yeses. All right. Have a good night, everybody. Thank you. [roll call]. Clerk we have a quorum. Thank you. Id also like to announce that the commission will have a different order of business at this meeting, and we will hold the closed session first before moving into our regular business. Madam secretary, will you read the closed session prior to Public Comment . Clerk yes, maam, president. And prior to doing that, id like to make a brief announcement. Due to the covid19 Health Emergency and the recommendations issued by the San Francisco department of public health, and that Governor Newsom and mayor breed have lifted the restrictions on teleconference, this meeting is being held by teleconference and broadcast on sfgtv. On behalf of the commission, i would like to extend our thanks to sfgtv and sfpuc i. T. Staff for their assistance during this meeting. If you would like to make Public Comment, 4156550001, meeting i. , 1467230055, pound, pound. To enter the queue to speak, press star, three. Madam speaker, the item for closed session is Richard Denton versus city and county of San Francisco et al. The requested resolution is to pay the plaintiff and the plaintiff is to withdraw from employment and accept this as settlement for any and all claims. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Operator madam secret, there are no call secretary, there are no callers wishing to be recognized at this time. Clerk thank you. Public comment on item 5, closed session, is now closed. May i have a motion on whether to assert the attorneyclient privilege on the matter listed below with the Legal Council . So may i have a motion and a second . So moved. Second . Second. Thank you. Madam clerk madam secretary, will you call roll, please . [roll call] clerk you have four ayes. Its been moved and seconded. We the commission is back from closed session at 2 05. May i have a motion and a second on whether to disclose [indiscernible] in closed session . May i have a motion . Motion not to disclose. Second. Whether to disclose whether not to disclose discussions. So the move is seconded. Madam secretary, may we have a roll call vote, please. President maxwell . Aye. Vicepresident . Aye. Commissioner paulson . Aye. Commissioner harrington . Aye. You have four ayes. All right, thank you. Moved and seconded. Madam secretary, may we read item 8, please. Item 8, approval of the minutes of october 13, 2020. The chair is there any discussion or corrections to the minutes . May i have a motion and a second to approve the minutes of so move. Second. Madam secretary, will you open Public Comment, please . Members of the public who wish to make two minutes of Public Comment on item 8, the minutes of october 13,. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Madam secretary, theres one caller in the queue. Thank you. Caller, can you hear us . Madam secretary, the caller put their hand down just before i opened the line. Okay, thank you. Public comment on item no. 8 is closed. And you have a first and a second. Yes. Roll call vote, please. President maxwell . Aye. Vice president morin . Aye. Commissioner paulson . Aye. Commissioner harrington . Aye. You have four ayes. The chair thank you. Madam secretary, will you read the next item, please. The next order of business is no. 9, general public. Members of the public may address the commission for up to two minutes on items not on todays agenda by dialing 14156550001, meeting id1462737257. To raise your hand to speak, press star three. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Madam secretary, there are three callers in the queue. I will unmute the first caller. Thank you. Commissioners, its very interesting to see the deliberations of these virtual meetings. The very first thing you will do is go into closed session, and i think it would be a good idea in the future to tell us what the closed session is all about, more because of what is happening with [indiscernible] today. I want to talk about a project called the amcent project. I was reviewing the details of this project, and for two years a gentleman called dwayne jones and his partners were being paid for two years, and then suddenly it stopped, and i believe that [indiscernible] has been given to consultants, and it is such dubious and nefarious activities that are going under your nose you need some good leadership. That is why i propose that maybe mr. Harrington and mr. Anson malone would take charge of this sinking ship and keep it afloat. [indiscernible] and so we are left with no other alternative since our Sunshine Task force doesnt work, our Ethics Commission doesnt work, we are left with no other alternative but to cooperate with the federal bureau of investigation, and i hope you all understand we are in dire straits and our city does not deserve this. We do not deserve the [indiscernible] system Improvement Project that started with a 6 billion project and now 12 billion. Thank you, caller. Your time has expired. Next caller. Good to be back with you. As i look forward to future events sfpuc certainly start off with the idea of awareness. As sfpuc is now the default provider of electricity in San Francisco, i would like that to be something that is more made known, because sfpuc through clean power sf should not just be a seller of kilowatt hours but a developer of relationships. And so how resiliency is essential to be involved with increasing our renewables percentage and building distributive storage throughout the city and hopefully putting solar panels on the rest of the sunset reservoir, we dont have to be so dependent on getting electricity from beyond the borders of this city, especially considering fires and power shutoffs. And renewables are proving to be cheaper all the time. I would like to see us work toward a day when clean power sf will be 100 renewable and cheaper than the pg e default option, because then we will be truly showing the world how we do clean power, and clean power sf, even at this moment, is very good at doing clean power with the oversight of this board, which is why i support public power and i ask that you continue the work of building a municipal utility district so sfpuc can have control of the delivery side of the house. Thank you. Moderator thank you, caller. Next caller, your lines been opened. Good afternoon. This is peter drekmier. I just wanted to report that we are officially in salmon spawning season as of a couple days ago there were 225 salmon that came up the to spawn. That compares to 558 last year and more than 1500 in 2018 for this time. And i would, therefore, guess well see about 2,000 spawners this year, perhaps as many as 3,000. To put this in perspective, in 1944 there were 130,000 salmon spawning in the twalmy. Now 1944 was a fwood year, but keep in mind it followed decades of mining, ranching and logging that all had impacts on the river. Vats were introduced in the late 1800 and Oshaughnessy Dam and the original pedro dam had been constructed and yet we still have 130,000. What changed . Well, in the early 70s, 60s and 70s, there was the construction of New Don Pedro Dam which is seven times as big as the original and has the capacity to capture all of the water in an average water year. And so agriculture grew and urban areas grew and a lot less water was flowing down lower twalmy. It became warmer and the harbours invasive predator fish, flood plain channels not inundated as often as it was, and the water is just not in Good Condition for native fish. And thats why the bay delta plan is so important, and you have heard me say it before. I hope you will draw up your support for the voluntary agreement and embrace the control plan. Thank you. Moderator thank you, caller. Madam secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. Thank you. Public comment on item 9, general Public Comment, is closed. Thank you. Madam secretary, will you read the next item, please . Madam president , your next item is item no. 10, communications. Commissioners, is there any discussion on communications . Will you open up for public im sorry, commissioner maxwell . Yes. If i might, i have a question on 10g, which is the power enterprise custom program. The question is whether our programs mimic pg es Customer Support programs or whether they are different. That may be a longer answer than we can get at the moment, but i would like to have a table or something that helps me understand what the comparison is between the programs that were offering and the programs that pg e offer. The chair thank you. I think thats a great question. We can do that. Okay. Madam president , i had a question on that same item. Great report. I would love to see something we have so many programs that sound so good. I would love to see something about number of people taking them up or energy saved or money spent, or some measure of its hard to tell which ones are big or which ones are small, so Something Like that would be nice the next time we see a report like this. The chair a bit more detail. Something about the effectiveness. All right. The chair okay. Colleagues, any further discussion . Madam clerk, will you open up for Public Comment, please. Members of the public who wish to make two minutes of Public Comment on item 10, communications, dial 1156550001, meeting id1462737257 pound pound. To raise your hand to speak, press star 3. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Moderator there are multiple callers in the queue. Your line has been opened. Good afternoon, david pillpel. Just wanted to comment on two items on communications, item 10d and 10f. On 10d i think i was the one that triggered that two weeks ago and just wanted to follow up and say i had a good conversation with assistant gm eric sandler. We were getting somewhere. We were about to solve the problem and then general manager kelly called and we had to cut it off, but we will finish that conversation shortly, and if theres anything further, i will follow up with him or marge and resolve that so that we can make payments and others that are similarly situated can make payments. We dont want to have all this debt outstanding unnecessarily. And then as to 10f, i just wanted to appreciate that rich stevens and his team that maintains the street lights, and they dont get a whole lot of appreciation around here, and they really should, i just wanted to point out over the last several months during the shelterinplace, ive actually seen a lot more street light maintenance during the day and at night, and things seem to be pretty good out there in terms of street light maintenance, but i would again you know, encourage people to call 311 if they see lights out at night or lights on during the day so that those work orders can get in the system and richs grew can get up there and fix those. Theres a little p. S. A. Thanks very much. Keep up the good work, everyone. Moderator thank you, caller. Next caller, your line is open. Thank you, president Sophie Maxwell. Lots of good things. I like what im seeing with the power enterprise update. Most of my focus is going to be on the inperson payment. Covid is a very challenging time for us, and we want to reduce our exposure because sfpuc is an absolutely necessary service, and im seeing that there are very few people who are making inperson payments and the idea of mail payments or Electronic Payments is not new. And we should be encouraging more toward the electronic payment realm, i submit to you as a person with disabilities and as a veteran that i have been receiving Electronic Payments since 1989, definitely not new. And i have been making Electronic Payments to my various utilities since 2002, autopay i think is the more recent system, and theres a lot of community options. If a person needs to pay cash, there are plenty of in their community and not necessarily having to make a trip and [indiscernible] will be issued. But even for somebody who does a payment electronically, one can get a receipt printed, copy off eemail or library printer place if they dont have a printer, i think overall were doing a pretty good thing. Lets encourage simplicity. Inperson payments at one place is a very expensive way to go, and i think we can use the efficiencies with this current model to have other programs for the greater good of the city. Thank you. Moderator thank you, caller. Madam secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. Thank you. That closes Public Comment on item no. 10. Youre muted, madam president. Madam secretary, will you read the next item, please. The next order of business is item 11, report of the general manager. Good afternoon, commissioners. I have three items, and the first item is an update of the december 2018 bay delta plan amendment and voluntary agreement negotiations with the state. Well have Michael Carlin, deputy general manager Michael Carlin to give you an update. Good afternoon, president maxwell, commissioners. Todays update will be kind of short since we have only had one meeting since the last time ive updated you with the state teams. The issues still remaining on the table center around dry and critical water and habitat improvements. Habitat improvements was the subject of a technical meeting that was held with the state team last week. It revolves around the fact that we had proposed in our voluntary agreement to activate 80 acres of the flood plain habitat in the spring its a lot of water, and the state team is asking for 160 acres of flood plain habitat that would be activated at a lower level of 500 to 100cff, thats cuber feet per second. We are having a discussion why the switch by the state team, what is the rationale behind it, what is it that youre trying to hope to achieve. Weve had one discussion with them and were trying to raise the second discussion with them on this technical matter, seeing if we can get some sort of breakthrough. If we can do that, i think that would be fairly significant and we can actually move forward with, you know, other discussions on this is one that trickle and dry year water is a very tough subject to broach. It is a dry year or critical year, theres not a lot of water in the state, and even though we would be rationing, we still need to look at how much water we actually have in our system because we dont want to run out. So we still have to have those discussions and were trying to move forward with that at this point in time, but its a very slow process at this stage. And i would be glad to answer any questions as i think there will be quite a few. The chair colleagues, any questions . Sorry, michael, no questions. Okay. All right, the next item is the excuse me. Im sorry, general manager, im going to call Public Comment at this point. Is that appropriate, madam president . Yes, open Public Comment, please. Members of the public who wish to make two minutes of Public Comment on item 11a dial 14156550001, meeting id 146, 2737257 pound pound. To raise your hand to speak, press star 3. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers waiting to be recognized . Quick comment on critical and dry years, they have a much bigger impact on water agencies that depend on river flow, and as you know, San Francisco is very storage dependent, and the goal is to have all the reservoirs full by july of each year. When all the reservoirs are full, theres enough water in storage to last six years, so it would take a number of consecutive critically dry years to drain that. We have a great example recently. At the height of a recent drought, San Francisco had enough water in storage to last three years, and then one year later in the summer of 2016, there was enough water to last five years. Thats because in an average year the sfpuc is entitled to three times as much water as it uses. And then we had the big water year, 2017, where your entitlements enabled 12 years worth of water. Obviously there wasnt any place to store it and it got dumped down the river. So i just never see the rationale behind the sfpuc worrying about critical and dry years. It really has very, very little impact when you have so much storage. Thank you. Moderator thank you, caller. Next caller, ive opened your line. I know youve opened my line. So whenever this topic comes, i have requested you, commissioners, to bring the first people to the table as i did myself once, brought them all the way from yosemite to San Francisco so that the elders could tell you all white folks, mostly, you have destroyed a lot of waters pristine. We have to keep it real. So [indiscernible] is suffering, and the most important element of the twalmy river are the salmon. They cant speak for themselves. So well have to speak for the salmon. And so when the elders come and the Indigenous People come and tell you all something, they dont want to listen. They want to go by some [indiscernible] some slows. Even though the reservoir with afford to let some water into the twalmy river, they know that. The Indigenous People cared for the river for 15,000 years. You all can go into your records and find out when you all arrived in this country, and anyone can arrive in this country. I have no problems about that, even though i represent the [indiscernible] i dont have a problem about that. What i have a problem is being a snob, being proud, having no empathy and compassion for the first peoples, and one of your representatives going to sacramento and pretending to represent [indiscernible]. Moderator thank you, caller. Your time has expired. Madam secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. Thank you. Public comment on item 11a is closed. General manager kelly . Youre on mute. The chair before general manager goes on, could you give some light on the concern about storage and us having enough water during those lean years . Could you add something to that, please . Sure. Ill try and ill ask Steve Ritchie to jump in as well. We are a storagedependent system. We do try to hold back water, and we did change our operation during that period of 20122016, and we were very close to having zero water bank which would have meant that we would have to be releasing water from hechee to the irrigation districts to fulfill their water rights obligation. I think he kind of simplifies our operation quite a bit, and you never know how long things are going to last, and if you start making mistakes and you put yourself in a situation where youre perilously out of water, you cant make it up, so i would turn to steve if he wants to add anything else on that. Assistant general manager for water. I would just add that when we talked about having three years of water left, in my world that means were one year away from and maybe already into a period where we start needing to take emergency measures just in case were wrong, because as mr. Carden pointed out, the water bank was almost empty, only 50,000 acre feet left in it at the end of that dry spell. If it had continued, we must have been on the path to a very, very serious problem. The other comment he makes is that there was a very big year later on, and thats what were trying to look at in our different water fly projects is how we can capture some of those big year waters and find some place to store it, such as in an expanded reservoir or in a groundwater basin. We are following up on that vigorously, but otherwise i think mr. Carden had it absolutely correct. The chair thank you. All right, so the next item is the Pilot Program offering on our portfolio content category three Renewable Energy credit, agm barbara hill will give you an update on that program offering. Thank you, assistant general manager for power. Thanks for the opportunity, commission, to inform you about this new Pilot Program that were offering. Were offering it to our customers. This Pilot Program will help them certify their facilityings under the leadership and energy and environment Design Program or leed program administered by the u. S. Green Building Council. So first let me give you some context, and then ill go into the particulars of this new Pilot Program. So the leed Program Recognizes and awards buildings that meet certain environmental standards, up to 100 points can be received for various environmental benefits, such as water recycling and bicycle access and use of Renewable Energy. The point system is used to qualify buildings as leed certified, silver, gold or platinum. Platinum is the certification that our own sfpuc Headquarters Building received. Building owners have the option to buy Renewable Energy certificates to qualify for these leed points in the green Energy Category that the u. S. Green Building Council has established. These Renewable Energy certificates document the renewable attributes of the generation of Renewable Energy, and in the leed program context, when building owners buy unbundled Renewable Energy certificates, they are buying the Renewable Generation attribute from one Renewable Energy source and applying it to electricity from other sources. Usually nonrenewable sources. Some people refer to this activity as greening up the other electricity source. Some of our City Department has seen customers have approached us for help with obtaining these Renewable Energy certificates so they can meet the Renewable Energy requirements of the leed standards for their buildings. Unfortunately, our customers cant simply point to our hechy power to gain the green energy leed points. The leed rules require the Renewable Energy or its attributes, some from power plants that came online within the last 15 years. As you know, you know, we were very much early adopters of green gas housefree Renewable Energy, and so we ear disadvantaged under that 15year rule. They do not receive credit for our substantial early investments in Renewable Energy under the u. S. Green Building Councils rules. Under the city admin code, we are the citys energy supplier. We should take responsibility for making these purchases on behalf of our customers. So now some of the pilot particulars. We plan to conduct the pilot where we would purchase Renewable Energy certificates for our customers seeking this leed certification. The pilot is first of all, you know, a response to something that our customers value. Its a service that our customers need. We also feel its important for us to take responsibility for making these purchases. We have the among the City Departments, we have the most experienced with operating in these Renewable Energy markets. Its also a learning opportunity for us in the pilot setting to document the level of effort and the cost and to better understand any procurement or program risk, and all of this is to inform the setting of a selfsupporting Fee Structure and a recommendation on whether to provide the Renewable Energy certificate Purchase Service as an ongoing hechy service offering. Recall that the city discourages the use of unbundled Renewable Energy certificates in our clean power sf program. This theres what i would describe as a discomfort when the underlying electric generation being greened up with the certificate might be emitting Greenhouse Gases. But the use of unbundled Renewable Energy certificates as proposed here in this new pilot is different. In this case we know the Renewable Energy attributes are being used to, if you will, green up the hech hechy generation supply which itself is already Greenhouse Gas free. In other words, use of Renewable Energy certificates, these unbundled Renewable Energy certificates in this case is greening up an already green product, right . So the practice of purchasing unbundled Renewable Energy credits in this case seems appropriate to us. It provides a product that our customers are asking us for and need, and because the underlying generation is clean hechy power, the purchases dont contradict the citys guidelines in this area. Hopefully the pilot that were proposing here will be a success, and if so, well bring the program and fee proposal to you for consideration as appropriate. So with that, im happy to answer any questions that you may have. Thank you. The chair why dont we open up for Public Comment. Thank you. Members of the public who wish to make two minutes of Public Comment on item 11b dial 14156550001, meeting id 1462737257 pound pound. To raise your hand to speak, press star 3. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Madam secretary, there are multiple callers in the queue. Thank you. Go ahead, caller. Thank you, president Sophie Maxwell and members, for the record, she and her. This is good work. I would like to see a slide deck about this so we can view it in more detail. And Renewable Energy credits whether bundled or unbundled are indeed a legitimate way to purchase clean energy. I do that myself. I design renewable unbundled Energy Credits i think since 2009. Im sitting here with wind power in my home, in my allelectric home. Its anything that will help us to make these legal claims is worth the time and investment of money. I hope that this is a program that well be able to increase Renewable Energy credit usage across the board, not just for those who are using the hedge hedgy hydroelectric power, which is Greenhouse Gas free, but to be able to expend this to other forms of energy because Renewable Energy credit unbundled or bundled can create additionality, because the money that i am sending to a wind farm in oklahoma is helping to create wind energy. So this is a step, a beginning, i hope, that we can use to move San Francisco towards the 100 clean energy future. Thank you. Next caller. Hi, commissioners, im calling on behalf of the sierra club, and i am a San Francisco resident. We strongly oppose allowing large hydro power to be considered renewable because of the environmental damage done by dams and because large Hydro Renewables allows existing hydro resources to be used to meet clean Energy Requirements instead of building actual renewable projects. We want to applaud you for being an early adopter of ghg Renewable Energy, but this is not the end goal, and we really need to actually push for new renewables to be built out and not simply take advantage of the low hanging fruit. Thank for this opportunity to comment. Thank you for your comments. Next caller . Commissioners, what i want to speak about is having a solar farm. Youll have a lot of land that we can have a solar farm, and thats the way to go. We are talking about bundling which leads to stacks where we dont have the empirical data. You say something, theyre not going to take the words as gospel truth. You have a lot of land. Millions of acres of land. Why is it we cant have a solar farm . Much like they have in europe. Going into this bundling, trying to make some agreements, buying solar, [indiscernible] that its green when it could be purple, yellow or red, just go to the point. Build a solar farm. End of the story. Ive been in this business for 35 years, much before some of yall came on board. 40 years, really, but ill take 35. Thank you. Moderator thank you, caller. Next caller, ive opened your line. Thanks. Good afternoon, commissioners. Im hunter cuttings, a San Francisco resident and i serve as an elected member of the San Francisco sierra Club Executive committee. I also serve as an expert reviewer for the ipcc, the Intergovernmental Panel on climate change, and i serve as an expert reviewer for the landmark ipcc report on Global Warming of 1. 5. And i flagged this report because the Power Program for the sfpuc to existing hydro budgets is wholly inconsistent with the best available science on decarbonizing the California Power grid. As you know, that report calls upon all countries to reduce Carbon Pollution to zero by 2050 and further reduce global pollution 50 by 2030, and its well established that the least cost pathway for doing so involves rapidly decarbonizing the power grid over the next 15 years, and in fact, former vicepresident biden has called for zero emissions by 2035. Thats just 15 years from now, and to reach that goal, were going to immediate a ma moth increase in the production of clean energy, and to do that we need to dramatically ramp up incentives to build new clean energy capacity. And so the power project before you now goes in the opposite direction, creating a disincentive to build new capacity by retroactively grandfathering the existing hydro into our crediting framework building new capacity, and that includes San Francisco, sitting on our hands and pointing to stuff we did decades ago isnt good enough, and thats what the crediting framework is designed to accomplish. Greening up already green projects is essentially a form of green washing by double counting. If the staff wish to change the rules for crediting projects, then we have to go back and also change the framework for which the credit rules were designed, and thats clearly not going to happen. Commissioners, i really urge you to evaluate this project critically. Its taking us in the wrong direction, and it needs to moderator thank you, caller. Your time has expired. Next caller, your line is open. Hi, commissioners. This is eric brooks with californias for energy choice. Hopefully you saw the email or will see soon the email that i sent you that states some of the things youve heard already. Back in the day, a few years ago, we were one of the lead groups that worked with commissioner harrington who was then the general manager to get clean power sf off the ground. Its good to see you up there on the screen again. Glad youre back. And as the previous callers have said, this is going in the wrong direction. And ill add another reason for that. For years and years staff in the sfpuc has been saying, even in public documents, that hydroelectric is Greenhouse Gas free. The email i sent you has a key article with links to studies that shows that it is absolutely not Greenhouse Gas free. The science shows that it can be 25 upwards of 25 higher in Greenhouse Gas emissions than we previously knew that it was, and we previously knew there were Greenhouse Gas emissions from dams because of plant decay in the dams. So it is just its the 21st century. We need to build new renewables, not rely on hydro, and hydro is not Greenhouse Gas free, and we need to stop calling it that. There are no climate scientistologists that call it that. We are demanding that washington, d. C. Start following the science. Well, we need to do that now at the sfpuc. So please do not credit large hydro, which has substantial Carbon Emissions from this biological activity that happens in reservoirs, dont allow that to be called Greenhouse Gas free or credited as Greenhouse Gas free. Thank you. Thank you, caller. Madam secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. Thank you. That closes Public Comment on this item. And i dont believe the general manager has anything else to report on item 11c. Does that close your report, general manager . That concludes my report. Thank you. I have id like to ask robert hail if he could comment on some of what weve heard. Briefly. Certainly, certainly. I would emphasize that what were talking about here is not a change to the definition of renewables in the context of the renewable portfolio standard, so were not proposing to change any of the standards. We are proposing to take to provide our customers with the opportunity that the u. S. Green Building Councils rules provide them to purchase Renewable Energy credits or certificates to qualify their building for leed certification. These buildings would continue to receive hechy power, and as an organization, power enterprise will continue to invest in Renewable Resources to comply with the renewable portfolio standard. As you know, weve made longterm commitments for the construction of projects in california that will generate renewable electricity, including projects that incorporate storage. So we will continue on that path. This Pilot Program allows us to meet the needs most effectively for our customers to qualify their buildings for leed certification purposes. We will bring back to you as this is a pilot, we will bring back to you the performance of the program and whether we recommend we take it from pilot to a permanent program. I value the input weve heard from our stakeholders, and of course we will continue to listen and learn from them on the pros and cons of this pilot. So thank you. The chair thank you, and what about the large hydro plants being not not being efficient or Greenhouse Gas free . Yes, well, we can continue to look at the citations that mr. Brooks has provided us with, and we can come back to you with further thought on that, commissioner, if youd like. Certainly the state of california has under the renewable portfolio standards does allow certain large hydro to qualify as compliant. Our kirkwood generation does qualify as compliant under the renewable portfolio standards established by the state. So were working within those frameworks as we engage in the market and market our products to our customers. The chair great, thank you. Madam president . If i might . The chair yes. As i understand the concern about large hydro and, you know, whether or not it is Greenhouse Gas free, it has to do with the Greenhouse Gas impacts of building a reservoir as opposed to the generation of power on the release of water from the reservoir. And in that case, our reservoirs were built not as Power Projects really but primarily as water supply projects, and the electrical generation is something that was added on to that to help make it pay for itself. And also to assist with what at the time was considered conservation, which is if you are going to do something you take out of it all the benefit that you can. One of those benefits being power. I think the discussion to the extent we want to have it about whether or not our hydropower is Greenhouse Gas free or not, we could look at it from the standpoint of what the the Greenhouse Gas impact of operating. It was built for a different purpose, but the question is if we turn on the generators does that great Greenhouse Gases or not create Greenhouse Gases or not, and my understanding of that is it does not. That goes to the underlying question of whether our power generates Greenhouse Gas. For the other thing that i think barbara hill mentioned and just is worth repeating is we are not saying that power from hechy qualifies under the as a renewable resource where it does not, and were not seeking a change in that designation. Its saying because it does not that we will apply our credits, and that Credit Program does encourage the building of Greenhouse Gasfree generation. So i think its consistent with our values and consistent with the designation that is on whether or not our Power Generation qualifies, you know, for Greenhouse Gas credits or not. So i find this really [indiscernible] and frankly i think its a creative approach to solving, you know, the problem of our customers. The chair then item c, this is the report . Yes, that concludes my report. The chair all right. Then, madam clerk, Public Comment . Or not . Weve already called for Public Comment. We dont need Public Comment on 11c, no. The chair all right, may we read the next item, please. Your next item of business is no. 12. Good afternoon, commissioners. Im actually joint presenting with my colleague who is also here. I can jump in. So good afternoon, commissioners. Were here to provide you with an initial update on our Racial Equity work at our agency to date and give you a little progress update. Mr. Moderator, if we can jump into the first slide, please. Thank you. So as you know, there are two major components to our Racial Equity work at our agency that were beginning planning around. The first relates to the office of Racial Equity and the sfpuc is one of the departments in the city that will be providing a Racial Equity plan aligned with the Racial Equity framework that the office of Racial Equity developed for the city. So last year the city passed a law establishing an agency called office of Racial Equity under the human rights commission, and they developed the framework under which there are multiple phases to develop a citywide plan in response to Racial Equity. The first component of that framework focuses almost entirely on internal city and agency hr issues, and they have promulgated a template and a plan, an action plan that every Single Agency has to develop and submit by december 31, 2020. So we each are developing our Racial Equity action plans and would be submitting our agencywide action plan that were beginning to develop in december 31, 2020, like every other agency. Once we have submitted all of our plans, all of the enterprises and bureaus when they have those plans ready, they will be returning to you to present their plans and their priorities in early 2021. If we can go to the next component of the presentation, please. And then as you know, in july of this year, this Commission Also adopted a Commission Resolution condemning systemic racism and promoting racial justice, and well review the details around that component of the requirements for our planning at the end of our presentation. So jumping into the next slide around the office of racial equities, Racial Equity plans, the o. R. E. , office of Racial Equity, action plan mandates seven core key pillars that focus almost entirely on how we conduct business within our own agency. And every City Department has to respond to these areas. As you see, they focus on hiring, retention, promotion, discipline, diverse leadership, and with that heavy focus ill turn it over to justine to give you an overview of the internal h. R. Focus component of it. Thank you. Okay, so im just going to give you a high level if we could go to the next slide, please. A high level of each of the pillars which youll see on the slide here. And also generally what our approach is that were taking is were going to be trying to strike a balance between the things that we can do now, which would be things that our agency has control over, has resources to do, while also planning and building for foundational items, things that may take citywide coordination or may take much more of a heavier lift from a resources perspective or building out systems, things like that. So thats in general how were approaching this planning exercise. Some early highlights here from our hiring and recruitment pillar is that were really looking at our existing hiring practice, and where can we insert equity text . So already we have certain things like interview panels have to be made up of diverse panellists, but there are definitely other opportunities within our hiring process that we can make similar mandates or requirements for each and every one of our hiring processes of which we conduct many throughout the years. Well also be, again, looking to establish a stronger Data Analytics program, specifically regarding our hiring process, and thats going to be a longerterm plan. And were also looking at how do we create more robust recruitment functions, and we also want to be able to balance here again, not only find of advertisement and recruitment and outreach, but also really start to build out our more traditional message through our connections with the community and various community organizations. Next slide, please. For recruitment and promotion, some highlights here are things that i mentioned at our last on september 22, when i was here at the last meeting with you, and a lot of what were looking at here for our retention strategy is within that competency model framework. We spoke a little bit about it at that september 22 meeting. The framework shows our candidates as well as our employees, what success looks like, and how various different career paths can emerge within our organization. Not only does it highlight those career paths, but it also allows employees to focus their own personal professional development within those various paths. So this is something that we currently have under way, but its also something that were going to need to plan out more specifically, especially as it comes as it relates to resourcing this particular function so that we can more effectively use it. Next slide. Within this pillar, discipline and separation, this is really a small slice of a larger Performance Management spectrum, and again, our competency model framework is going to be really helpful here so that at the earliest point possible we are showing our employees what success looks like, being enabling our supervisors and managers to set clear expectations and Development Tools so that discipline is less likely because people know what to do in their jobs. They have a Good Relationship with their supervisor, with their peers and all of that. And one shortterm item that were developing that i mentioned at that september 22 meeting is that were developing more tools to help our employees within the probationary period, which is kind of that last phase of the Selection Process so that when people are first starting they know what they need to do to succeed in their job, and our supervisors know how to support them in order to be successful. Next slide, please. These next two slides im actually going to talk a little bit in tandem, but diverse and equitable leadership, this has a lot to do with recruitment, retention and promotion kind of all converging together as well as having very specific training programs, things that are going to address implicit bias, but also help develop a more effective leadership team, and also really harnessing our alreadyformed engagement culture here at the puc because our engagement culture allows our workforce to confidentially provide feedback back to leadership so that leadership can understand things that are going on more specifically in the workforce and address them. So really trying to harness the feedback loop in order to create a more diverse and equitable leadership within the entirety of our agency. Next slide, please. And here kind of similar to the last slide were again talking about, you know, Leadership Development, and in general at the puc were very supportive of providing development opportunities, but we want to make sure that all of those opportunities are, you know, made available to everyone, and also ensure that we have multiple ways to develop people. And i will say that, you know, in our current pandemic state, this is then made a little bit more complicated because everything has to be online, but we did recently launch within this year both our Leadership Development program for our senior leaders, which we planned to iterate throughout our agency, and also we launched a brand new modern learning Management System within [indiscernible] training but we are able to offer Online Training to all different sorts. So these are just some of the early things that were thinking about on how to harness and develop even more for those last two pillars that i just covered. And now im going to turn it back over to cover the last two. Thank you, justine. Next slide, please. And just to round out the last two components of o. R. E. s requirements, the sixth component relates to Organizational Culture of increasing and belonging. You can see the components up there. For us, we have already began by creating the Racial Equity team of Racial Equity leads for each enterprise and bureau. Weve started to begin the work on these Racial Equity plans, report to the commission and staff as we are doing right now and as is done with our own staff, conduct engagement surveys and things of that sort. If we can have the next slide, please. And then the finally component relates to the commission and making sure that the commission itself is very diverse and also is welcoming in an environment for everyone to participate and have actual experiences. So it has components around Demographic Data for commissioners, including that in our annual report, even developing a Mentorship Program between newer and more experienced commissioners. If we can go to the next slide, please. And this is a final slide, and just to give you a quick update and being mindful of time, this is related to the sfpuc adopt a resolution from july. We took the resolution and each of the actionable items from the resolution, we categorized into the categories you see on the screen, and now we have identified clear, specific actionable items and a plan in responding to each. So what is a concrete, immediate and nearterm actionable item we can take . What are some longterm deliverables . Who are the parties that can be involved and that are important to the success of that . What are some timelines related to that . And then finally what are the resources to make that successful . Do we need external support . Do we need better systems . As we see, you guys gave us a mandate around implementing not just the Racial Equity action plans, but we went into detail. Theres a component around land use and environmental justice. Water as a human right, some of what were doing around affordability, shutoffs, department of public health, traumainformed systems. What were doing around covid and our response right now as were in this, you know, unprecedented time, what were doing around outreach and engagement within our organization and externally. And also within our contracting equity, which i gave some details around some of what we have done and hopefully as infrastructure picks it up in the future, some of what they will be doing in the future. So as i said, each of these categories, we have now had committees identify from each enterprise and bureau who should work on each of these item, and there will be intraenterprise and intrabureau committees working on these issues and coming back to the commission to update us on these issues. And justine and i will be coming back to also continue to update you as we progress. We will be returning in december and were currently scheduled to come back in february to further provide you with an update, and then we will continue to provide you updates. When the enterprises and bureaus are done with their plans, as i said, theyll be coming in the beginning of next year to begin to provide you with their office of Racial Equity plans. And with that, that concludes our presentation, if you have any questions or comments. Through the chair, i have a comment, commissioner paulson, im incredibly impressed with the amount of engagement that this blueprint has put together and just the way everything is being thrown together, it sounds like its incredibly serious. I know theres not total metrics attached or dont know, you know, what piece or other pieces have gone into the field or is a manual for a supervisor or whatever, and the fact you said youre going to be coming back on december and january i think is incredibly important. You know, i probably should be you know, if the other commissioners agree with me, that being almost like a line item report during these crazy times is something that is probably going to be important. Again, all of us only sit on one commission, i think, so i dont know what the other commissions are doing, but im impressed with what were seeing, and i think you guys are doing some good work, at least by showing us this topline stuff that were looking at right now. I just want to say thanks for jumping on this, because what was it, it was only i think two months ago, wasnt it, that we passed the resolution. Or maybe it was longer than that. Lose track of time these days, but so anyway, thank you. Thank you. Madam president . Id like to echo commissioner paulsons comments about the number of programs and they seem to be taking this seriously. I am a person who likes facts and data, and so it would be great when were looking at workforce, for example, if you could do a baseline of where we are today or where you were when you started, or whatever, in terms of racial, sexual, whatever, different breakdowns, how we compare to the population of the city, whatever calculations you want, and then we can see if things are working. If we have this baseline and you come back to us in six months or one year or two years, if we see movement that people are being promoted and people are retaining, then we have faith that these programs work as opposed to just having them sound good. I would ask that you give us that kind of a baseline of real data that we can track to, that would be really handy. If i may, we did provide kind of baseline workforce equity data in july, and so i would be happy to forward that presentation on to you. That happened before you joined our commission. That would be great. Thank you. Any further comments . I would like to say i think well done. Very succinct and well done, and i think looking forward to having i think what ed mentioned, having some goals would be really great, and since we already have that data, i think this is really on our way to that. So thank you both for a great presentation. It was well done. Thank you. Public comment on this item . Madam secretary . Members of the public who wish to make two minutes of Public Comment on item 12, dial in. Raise your hand to speak by pressing star 3. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Madam secretary, there are several callers in the queue. Thank you. Ive opened your line, caller. You have two minutes. Commissioners, let me first speak about community benefits. We, the people from the bayview Hunters Point [indiscernible] only to find out that millions of dollars have been wasted. I dont want to shame anybody because the whole world knows about it, but nobody can speak about Racial Equity when you call a person the nword and you are taken to court. But im going to provide the evidence of that one case. So the other woman, i havent met her, but i have listened to her now for the second time, she has no concept about cultural equity or cultural competency. And more importantly about racial biasness which is being fostered at puc. Somebody rightly pointed out if you really want to find out if the people are happy, you should watch them [indiscernible] in charge of human resources, she got set up with sfpuc and left yall. What about karen cubic, a wonderful project manager. Why did she have to leave . What about tony flawless . Why did he have to leave . What about mark harris who is now in charge at pacifica . Why did he have to leave . Do you want me to go on and on . Commissioners, your ship is sinking. We need a change of people who have to have their heart in the right place. These people need a brain transplant and a total blood transfusion. Thank you very much. Thank you, caller, for your comments. Next caller, ive opened your line. Yes, hi. My name is ali apa hah. I hope you guys are doing well and everybody is safe. Mr. Harrington, its been a while, couple years by now, and i hope youre doing well. Ladies and gentlemen, i have a few comments regarding your racial and equity update. One, the racial inequity can be for the local for the employees of the San Francisco puc and two it can be for the other vendors of the [indiscernible] and so forth. So with all due respect, Racial Equity justice within the [indiscernible] why is it that i see staff at the San Francisco puc filing lawsuits because they have been discriminated against . Is the program supposed to address it . And a lot of these issues can be addressed with employees, just and fair practice and treat them well. But you do have a lot of lawsuits, and theres one today on the agenda, apparently, and you know, the game goes on and on. So this is no racial and equity within the puc. Two, lets talk about the small [indiscernible] and the vendors and so forth. I have written to you details which is [indiscernible] even though i got a confirmation from the secretary of the board that it would be submitted to the board. Gentlemen, we are dealing with ldes that are currently on contract with the commission. Some of them have lost 14. 5 million in 2017. The threshold by the 1214b for services is 2. 5. So with all due respect i want to ask you a question. How can an lde reach that much in the county and city of San Francisco to excluding Everything Else that no one ever noticed it before until it became public . Thats one. Two, the racial and equity update for everybody, can someone please explain to me why for exactly myself, a licensed contractor in the state of california have sorry, caller, your time has expired. Madam secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. Thank you, mr. Mode rater. Public comment has been closed. Madam clerk, will you read the next item, please . The next order of business is item 13, the policy and Government Affairs update presented by emily lam. Good afternoon, commissioners. My name is emily lam and im the director of policy and Government Affairs. We are a small but mighty and Responsive Team of six people that works with everyone in the agency to meet their policy and legislative agenda. In addition to my remarks today, i also included in your materials a memo detailing some of our work from the last year. The one thing that the memo doesnt capture, however, is that in addition to the legislative items that we are in charge of, on any given day each of us on our team have additional numerous urgent requests that pop up that [indiscernible] move on it immediately. So for example, very recently the cca Train Association issued a request for signatures on the letter to the copc about the on a late friday afternoon with a deadline of monday close of business. So part of the six folks on my team worked together quickly to coordinate that task and were able to get the mayor and all the supervisors to sign by the deadline. So on the local side, the sprisk board of supervisors level, i want to thank those who handled getting several dozen pieces of sfpuc bills passed. On the state and federal level i would like to thank megan scott who advocates on hundreds of bills that act us at the p. U. C. She manages the work with the lobbyist and the team at the state level and the federal level. Megan scott also works closely with the enterprises from water from power and someone else from waste water who i also want to thank for their hard work. And thank you to suzanne who specializes in handling powerrelated items at all levels of government as this area this be particularly active in the last few years. And last but not least thanks to justin ballboa who supports the whole team. Because of my previous Work Experience and other accountings, i handle all of the legislative items and constituent requests that the county operates in. [indiscernible] lands and i have been on our Fire Prevention plans and our firefighting activities, especially about our most recent fires. Deployed for months to serve in the Emergency Operations center. I was asked to serve on a crossdepartment ccsf policy team setting up the needs for the city family and helping the acts on behalf of ccsf. There was a liaison to the elected officials in the area and a San Francisco native we were happy to step up and serve in a dire time of need. And because i want to keep my remarks brief, id like to take a moment just to highlight one of our Top Priorities from past year that is also a top priority for the next year. For the last seven months ive been working on securing financial funds for systems and infrastructure stimulus. These funds are particularly critical given the restrictions on taxpayer dollars for Assistance Programs and a deepening financial crisis of customer utility that piles up budget crises due to the economic fallout of covid19. The last two rounds the act did include 1. 5 billion in funding for Assistance Programs along with a shutoff moratorium, but it was not included in any of the senate proposals. On the infrastructure side, we want to make sure the water sector is stimulus dollars as possible and communicated sfpucs capital priority projects that could be funded through such stimulus. The tasks, the moving forward act which includes 25 billion for Drinking Water and 40 billion for other funds representing a huge increase in funding that could be used in this instance we lobbied not only for traditional infrastructure loans but potentially grants as well. I anticipate this bill will be taken up in the first few months of 2021, and we continue to work closely with senators and representatives to make sure funding for the lowincome Assistance Program and infrastructure remain a top priority of negotiations postelection. And while its been a battle to get these funds, im hopeful that the coalitions weve built, such as the water agency alliance, a National Group of executives from water and waste Water Utilities will be a strong voice in d. C. For these acts. Additionally in the last few months i helped form a crosssector coalition of waterrelated stakeholders who are not usually on the same side of arguments, but the water industry, environmental justice, environmental policy and business groups, and advocating to the california congressional delegation through many calls and letters this group has also helped other states create the same type of crosssector coalitions to advocate for more acts including virginia and washington state. In summary, its been a tough and unusually challenging year due to covid19, but im proud of my team and the way we have adapted to the environment to continue providing high value and High Satisfaction on the work we do for the agency. Thank you for your time and id be happy to answer any questions you may have. Madam president . This is commissioner harrington. Thank you, emily, for that presentation. A lot of good work going on. I was wondering who represents us in sacramento and you mentioned don gilbert. Doesnt have a website anymore. Could you send me an information about what they are currently doing or at least how they may be contacted . Sure, absolutely. And if you want to, i can connect you directly to them as well. Thank you. Thank you, emily. Well done. Thank you. Thank you, president. Comments or questions, colleagues . Thank you. Madam secretary, may we open this up for Public Comment . Members of the public have two minutes of Public Comment on item 3, please dial in, meeting i. D. 146273275 pound pound. To raise your hand to speak, press star three. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Yes, madam secretary, there are multiple callers in the queue. Thank you. Yes, hi, good afternoon. This is ali apphah again. Mr. Harrington and mr. Moran, both of you have been at the organization for years and years. So my second part of the question was why is it that im a contractor in the state of california and duly certified caller, are you there . Madam secretary, i believe he was disconnected. Ill move to the next caller. Okay, if he calls back, we can reconnect him. Caller, you have two minutes so the lady, i was listening to the lady, and she seems to be on track because shes very passionate in bringing people together, and maybe giving others an orientation as to the mission of justice of the San Francisco Public Utilities commission. So if you have a woman like her or a lady like her, who is working so hard, i want to ask you, commissioners, when we read the newspapers about the ongoing corruption, how does that reflect on the employees . How does that impact on the morale of the workforce . How does that impact on the leadership . Now in all the talk, there is no explanation as to standards, ethics, morals, which we all know are important. We cant just be doing stuff just because we think we can do. We just cant be taking junkets and granting one or two room. So there are many good things that sfpuc could have done, but they did not and once you tarnish our name, its very, very difficult to restore respect. In this life you have to have honor and respect. You have no honor and respect, you can go sleep with the hogs. Thank you, caller. Your time has expired. Madam secretary, i will attempt to get the previous caller back. Thank you. This is me again. For whatever reason ive been cut off and i dont understand why. Im not out of line. Im asking a very specific question to both mr. Harrington and mr. Moran. Im a duly certified as an led by the cmv and for years and years ive been trying to get work and i cant get work. Youre spending millions of dollars, millions of dollars on dwayne jones outreach df. I have for years and years i never got a single email from any of the consultants that kelly has been hiring on the side for outreach. Could someone please tell me as a policy why is it that the ldes are being driven out of work for no reason so that just the ones that are paying off the family can get work . Im also asking you again why is it that there are unlicensed ldes that dont have a license in the state of california that have been awarded millions and millions of dollars worth of work . When there are licensed individuals that live in the city and work in the city cannot work with the puc . Isnt that a policy question, sir . Then please i get an answer . Thank you, caller. Madam secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. Thank you. That closes Public Comment on item no. 13. Thank you. Do you think that there is an answer for the caller . Is there something that we can point to . I mean, an unlicensed i find that difficult, mr. Kelly, can you answer that in some way . Well, first of all, the certification of the lbes is made by contract monitoring division, and those are the folks who, you know, certify the firms. A lot of the other accusations that were made, you know, i can go tit for tat, you know. No, i just think you know, how he asked how could that be, that somebody from out of town, not certified, and so i wanted you to answer that. I think what you just said yeah, basically they are certified by the contracting monitoring division. And that they have to be certified in order to work in the city. Certified to be listed as a lbe, and so that is thats what the firms select their own lbes and, you know, so thats how theyre selected. I would say that mr. Ataha, his Company Needs to go in and reach out to the primes and see if he can get on a team. He has asked me in the past, you know, to help him get on the team, and so its up to him to, you know, get on the team for himself. Thank you. Madam clerk . The next item, please . Madam president , the next item is the barrier water supply and Conservation Agency update presented by the c. E. O. Ms. Sankuva. Hi, good afternoon, commissioners. I am pleased to speak to you briefly today through this regular report. First, i want to congratulate you, president maxwell, on your recent election as president of the commission. Its exciting to see you there, and i look forward to working with you in this role. Your service on the board of supervisors and with other San Francisco bodies will truly be valuable to your leadership at p. U. C. Specifically i look forward to working with you for a common interest in responsibilities which are so important to the 1. 8 million residents and 40,000 businesses, including most of Silicon Valley and hundreds of vibrant communities in almeda, santa clara counties whose water interests bosca represents under California Law. Im excited that you will join us at the next Board Meeting in november. I know the board chair was very pleased that you will be able to join us. I want to congratulate commissioner harrington on his new appointment to this commission as well. Commissioner harrington knows bosca very well. He was especially helpful to us with his experience and insights as bosca began to implement its legislative mandates to represent our constituents and work closely with the commission during his previous tenure as the p. U. C. General manager. I also want to recognize the other distinguished members of the commission. Commissioner moran brings his vast background on water issues and a complete understanding of boscas legislative underpinning and authority, and commissioner paulsons more than 20 years of experience in the Labor Movement will help him understand and deal with water requirements, more Affordable Housing and Community Developments in boscas territory. Finally these consequencial water supply issue facing boscas constituents now is uncertainty about the impact of the bay delta plan and the state boards final orders on our water users. We are working very hard to help reach a voluntary agreement on the river as an alternative to the stateboard adopted plan which could reduce water for all our water users that rely by 93 million gallons of water a day, which of course would be completely unacceptable given the amount of impacts we would expect. Fortunately the governor is very strongly in favor of voluntary agreements to improve the bay delta plan rather than mandated orders, and to continue our strong support for his leadership for our river voluntary agreement, i will continue to work cooperatively with general manager kelly and his senior staff to make this voluntary agreement happen. We appreciate your active and strong support as well for the governors alternatives. I look forward and hope that we have Great Success with it. That concludes my comments. I wanted to be respectful of your time today. I know you have a full agenda, but im certainly available to answer any questions you might have. Thank you very much. Colleagues, are there any questions or comments . Thank you, and i certainly look forward to working with you as well. Thank you. Thank you. Madam clerk . Public comment on this item . Members of the public who wish to make two minutes of comment on item no. 14, dial 14156550001, meeting id 1462737257 pound pound. To raise your hand to speak, press star 3. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Madam secretary, there are no callers in the queue at this time. Thank you. Public comment on item no. 14 is closed. Madam clerk, will you read the next item, please . The next order of business is item 15, new commission business. New business. Commissioner harrington . Madam chair, these meetings are good for what they are there for, obviously getting to a lot of business and having discussions like this, but they dont tend to let us go for deep dives and to really engage with a lot of the stakeholders. And so ive been talking to president maxwell about the possibility of doing some workshops, and the workshops would allow us to actually do that kind of a deep dive that will allow people to engage without a twominute or threeminute kind of barrier to be able to have full conversations, and so what im hoping is that theres agreements here that we can start to do some of these kinds of workshops. The first one i would suggest would be on the twalmy river and getting us all up to speed in terms of education but also working on, again, engagement. So all the things that happen with the river i realize could take 75 years, but trying to figure out what are our rights, what are our obligations, what are our operating procedures that involve how we manage the river that is so loved and so important to all of us, and to all the other stakeholders in and outside of the p. U. C. So im hoping if we do that, we can work with the staff and they can come back with some dates and times and who might be speaking and how we can kind of get this together. And the fish. The fish cant testify. But we have to be all right, thank you. Dan, commissioner, can i add in something . You know, i think that it may be challenging to do as part of a workshop thats tied to the Commission Meeting because theres going to be back and forth, and i dont know how to structure that. Is there a way that we can have invite folks to a meeting to have, you know, input and then bring the results to the meeting . [please stand by] we have, you know, commissioner harrington, there has been a lot of data that comes across this commission without the engagement that youre proposing, but im more than willing to explore and listen to these. Again, that was the first one you mentioned. I dont know what you had drummed up or was thinking about specifically . There are a lot of important issues, yeah. Sorry, commissioner moran. Vice president moran well, one thing that state and legislative bodies do, and i dont recall San Francisco doing it, is basically you have a legislative hearing, where people have been invited before the body to speak. They often have limits of some kind, but that can be adjusted. Theres simply a model for that at both the state and the federal level that we could take a look at. Im willing to take a look at that. Again, i think there are parts of the p. U. C. That are worth a deep dive over a period of time. This was the first one, but im open for suggestions from any of you. I think in the wastewatersewer enterprise, theres a chunk of things that are interesting there that also would be worth kind of a deeper discussion. Any way, that was it. And im sure theres a better way to do it. Yeah, and i certainly am in fav favor of it. I think theres a lot going on in this area, and we kind of need to reach a base that we all can agree somewhere, and i think this is a good start. So well work on how we can get more engagement in the presentations. Thank you for that. Thank you. President maxwell any further discussion, new business . Then, madam secretary, may we open this up for Public Comment . Clerk members of the public who wish to make Public Comment on item 15, new commission business, dial 4156550001 and enter the meeting code, then press pound, pound. To raise your hand to speak, press star, three. Mr. Prartooperator, do we have callers . Operator madam secretary, there are multiple callers in the queue. Commissioners, i agree that we need to have a meaningful dialogue, okay . If we do the right thing, nobodys going to argue. The argument is about when people do things behind closed doors. Can we get a report how many times people behind closed doors to make decisions . Fundamentally, when someone makes 400,000, a special contract, the taxpayer pays the money. Are you telling me that i was i was in some very high institution. We had Panel Discussions all the time. We dont need representation for the tuolomne. We represent ourselves. We need the sfpuc to not treat him like shit. We can have talks in a similar manner on community benefits, on leadership, on orientation, on human resources, the history of the water department, and how we went against anson moran. Who is the machine, the machine behind pulling strings, we can talk about all that shit if weve got the balls. Operator thank you, caller. Your time has expired. Next caller. Peter drieckmeyer, tuolomne trust. I think commissioner harringtons idea is wonderful. I think workshops are long overdue, and i think it would be a great opportunity to get beyond the he said, she said. My sense is we could agree on a lot of the fact and have some discussions on solutions. We might not agree on everything, but at least we have a Foundation Based on facts. So thank you very much, commissioner harrington. Youve already earned your keep. Operator thank you, caller. Next caller, your line is open. Hi. Im carol steinfeld, and im chiming in to simply support this. I think its okay to just try something. Im in san mateo, and we have very little democracy around water supply, and thats a whole other discussion, and i think there are a lot of opportunities that are missed with the San Francisco p. U. C. Supplied water, so i look forward to hearing where this might go. Thanks. Operator thank you for your comments. Next caller, your line is open. Can you hear me now . Operator yes, we can. You have two minutes. Great. David pillpell again. I also want to speak to commissioner harrington. Its strange referring to him as commissioner harrington. Hes just ed. I recall several Successful Commission retreats in the past onsite and offsite, and also workshops more recently regarding various aspects of ssip, power enterprise, water projects, other things, so theres certainly precedent for having commissioner workshops in various fashions, and im sure the way its structured can be handled, and i look forward to them. I think that should be very enlightening and productive for everyone. Thanks. Operator thanks for your comments. Madam secretary, there are no more caller in the queue. Clerk thank you. That closes Public Comment on item number 15. Youre on mute, madam president. President maxwell next item, please. Clerk the next item is consent calendar. You only have one item on your consent calendar today, approve amend number three to contract number ww647r. Members of the public who wish to make two minutes of Public Comment on item 16, dial 4156550001, meeting i. D. 1462737257, pound, pound, to raise your hand to speak, press star, three. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Operator madam secretary, there are no callers in the queue. Clerk thank you. Public comment on item number 16 is closed. Again, i move to approve prematurely but timely, i hope. President maxwell okay. Theres a motion to approve. Second . Second. President maxwell its been moved and seconded. Roll call vote, please. [roll call] clerk you have four ayes. President maxwell next item, please. Clerk next item is item number 17, approve the water supply assessment for the proposed 2500 mariposa street, San Francisco Municipal Transportation Authority potrero bus yard project, presented by general manager ritchie. Hello. Steve ritchie, general manager of water. This is a redevelopment of the potrero bus yard into a joint use facility that would have Bus Maintenance activities but also have development uses, including a mix of residential uses, including 575 residential units. As always, the water supply assessment is a requirement that the commission deliver to the Planning Commission so that they can engage in the ceqa process. So its not approval of the project by the commission, its simply approval of the Technical Report regarding water supply for this development project, and i recommend your approval. President maxwell any discussion . Public comment on this issue . Clerk members of the public who wish to make a twominute sorry. I release youve been doing a lot of these, and this is my first one. Im not going to ask you to go through all of these in detail, but i realize that this or any individual one of these is pretty small. I think this is less than onetenth of 1 of the water that we use. Do you have, like, an advanced calendar that you have for us that could tell us how many of these that would come before us in the next year or the next few months so we have an idea of the volume what well be dealing with . Sure. The department has a pipeline of all developments that are queued up in the process, so we can get an equipment of it in that, but probably, from a bigger picture, whats coming up from the p. U. C. In the next calendar year is the approval of the urban Water Management plan, which is looking at the next 25 years of demand and what thats going to look like. For example, this project was already included in the 2015 urban Water Management plan, so thats a plan that has to be done every five years to identify that, you know, we know what the demands are going to be, and we know how to identify water sources for those. The challenge in the current approach is with the uncertainty around the baydelta plan, we have you know, we have to grapple with that uncertainty when, you know, coming to these conclusions that there is sufficient water to supply for the project. Thank you. So when we do using those having to think about this, the delta plan, are we considering that what if the state plan goes through . Yeah. Were making our projections with that view in mind . Yeah. All of these that weve done since the state adopted the plan in december 2018, we layout all of the possible scenarios in the future. One of which is the state plan goes into effect, one of which is the voluntary agreement goes into effect, and another is that the plan does not go into effect because of litigation, which were actively engaged in, as well as many others. All of those outcomes are possible, and so we try to factually present those as possibilities, then try to make the best assessment that we can of how this fits into our potential water supply. Its also why were engaged in the alternative water planning process now to make sure that were identifying supplies that could be, you know, up to that big figure mentioned of 93 million gallons per day of shortfall if, worst Case Scenario from a water planning point of view comes about, and frankly for growth in San Francisco. The growth projections that were starting to work with now, again, call for a great deal of growth, and its been odysseying, with covid, you know, people potentially moving away from urban areas, but then, they run into moving into an urban wildfire interface area, and that has its own problems. So i think everybody in the urban planning world is transitioning the best they can in terms of what the projections are in the future, but it is a challenging time to work in this field. President maxwell madam secretary, we should move onto Public Comment. Clerk members of the public who wish to make two minutes of Public Comment, dial 4156550001 and enter the meeting i. D. Then pound, pound, to raise your hand to speak, press star, three. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Operator yes, madam secretary, there are three callers in the queue. Clerk thank you. Can you hear me now . Operator yeah, you have two minutes. David pillpel. I have a number of comments for this, and hopefully, this is my last comment for the meeting. First, its the municipal transportation agency, not authority. Hopefully, the reports should notice who the staff is, not just a. G. M. Ritchie, who knows everything about everything, as we know. But i hope theres some policy person thats the point on this. I think that these w. S. A. Reports should clearly link to the latest urban Water Management plan, and i appreciate the discussion just now about updating the 2015 plan to 2020, which i guess will stretch into 2021, so i assume well hear more about that update in the future, including new projections, ranging wildly based on covid19 impacts. Next, i think planning should updata tachment a, starting on page 27 to reflect the latest plan bay area numbers. I think that was the 2013 memo . Next, could someone please provide me the september 6, 2016 p. U. C. Guidance memo . Its referred to in pages 32 and 33, and attach that in the future . Next, i see the gross projected water use by the project, but i did not see the next change from todays use. Maybe its there in the table, but i didnt see it quickly. And then, to conclude, i support the conclusion of the w. S. A. That there is sufficient water to supply the proposed project, but i express no opinion at this time on the merits of the project or whether it should be approved. Thank you for taking my comments. Operator thank you, caller. Next caller, your line is open. Thank you. It is [inaudible] again. President maxwell, first of all, i want to thank you for your comments and follow up on the question that i have. But just for your benefit, the city certifies company to whatever rules they carrie. This clearly has nothing to do with chapter 14b, but it is the duty of the San Francisco p. U. C. , when they issue contracts Construction Contracts to check to see if they have licenses, not just for [inaudible] i have my two minutes. You want to cut me off again . Clerk this is Public Comment on item 17. Water supply, so contracts related to water supply. Construction contracts related to water supply. Is that related enough to item 17 . Im asking a question. Something said its not my fault, its c. M. D. S fault, and im saying no, the contract, including the water supply, co comes in from the p. U. C. So where is the process to identify the contractors whether they have a license or not . Is that too difficult . Miss maxwell, youre hearing a lot of things from staff just to justify things. I dont mind going tat for tat. You have my cell phone number. Call me, and ill give you the courtesy. But you are hiring people with no licenses whatever. You tell me to call the [inaudible], but they wont [inaudible]. I mean, you read the papers, harland . Thank you. Operator thank you, caller. Last caller, your line is open. Hi. Peter dreickmeyer hi. I just wanted to say this is Public Comment on item 17. Thank you. Yeah. When i speak with employees of water agencies, and we talk about demand projections, they say well, you know, were expecting all of this growth. And i say well, isnt that a problem . Maybe weve reached our carrying capacity, and they say well, thats not up to us, thats up to cities and counties that approve development. But then, they apply these water supply assessment that say yes, we have the waters, and they dont say that theres a tradeoff, that we might have a degraded environment. And so those who approve development feel, like, oh, weve got the water. Lets just go ahead, and we just grow and grow and grow. Even plan bay area doesnt look at the care and capacity. The plan of plan bay area is to reduce per capita Greenhouse Gas emissions. But if the overall population is growing, the emissions are not reducing. We need to have a plan of what we want San Francisco to look like. Whats the carrying capacity . Is part of that that we have a healthy Tuolomne River and a healthy bay valley . There was a presentation last fall, but it was basically, heres some information, okay, we checked that off the list. So that would be another wonderful workshop to have, is bring together the leaders of San Francisco and talk about what we want our city and our region to look like, and whats the connection between water supply and development. Thank you. Operator thank you, caller. Madam secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. Clerk thank you. Public comment is item 17 is closed. President maxwell thank you. I just wanted to say that the Planning Department has done many planning sessions for ten years out, 25 years out, 50 years out, and i think it is important to maybe get some of that information and Start Talking with them about some of the issues that youre concerned about with water, as well. Madam clerk thank you. May i have a motion to approve this item, and a second . Vice president moran ill move the item. Commissioner harrington second. President maxwell madam clerk, roll call, please. [roll call] clerk you have four ayes. President maxwell item is passed. Next item, please, madam clerk. Clerk madam president , your next item is item 18, adopt findings declaring as surplus to the San Francisco Public Utilities Commission Utility needs under charter section as exempt surplus land in the unincorporated town of sunol in alameda county, that is under the jurisdiction of the sfpuc, and recommend that the board of supervisors authorize the citys director of property to execute a quitclaim deed conveying the property to the east bay Regional Park district, and b, the sfpuc general manager to execute an agreement for sale of real estate to convey the property to the east way Regional Park district for 500,000. We have struck a deal with east bay Regional Park who has all the surrounding land around this 20 acres, so they will incorporate it into the east bay Regional Parks system. We think this is a good deal for us and a good deal for the east bay Regional Park, so id ask that you move the item. President maxwell Public Comment on this item. Clerk members of the public who wish to make two minutes of Public Comment on item 18 dial 4156550001, meeting 1467237625, pound, pound. To raise your hand to speak, press star, three. Moderator, do we have any callers . Operator madam secretary, there are no callers with their hands raised at this time. Clerk thank you. Public comment on item 18 is closed. President maxwell commissioners, may i have a motion and a second to approve this item, please . Commissioner harrington so moved. Vice president moran second. President maxwell roll call, please. [roll call] clerk you have four ayes. President maxwell item is approved. Next item, please would you read the next item, please. Clerk madam president , your next item of business is item 19, authorize the general manager to execute on behalf of the city and county of San Francisco a joint Funding Agreement with the u. S. Geological survey for an amount not to exceed 32180 and with a duration of 11 months. This is vice manager ritchie. This is an agreement to manage stream gauges in our watersheds. Weve been entering into agreements with the usgs to manage stream gauges, and this is a continuation of that. This one is a shortterm agreement because theyve been changing their rules about how they do contracts in effect, so were trying to work with them to make sure that the next one can be a longerterm agreement because this one only lasts for a little less than a year, and i request your approval. I have one question. What does hydrologic mean . Hydrologic basically means the movement of water in the environment. Water evaporates out of the ocean, goes up in the air, falls as rain, and its the hydrologic cycle. Anything concerns Water Movement has to do with hydrologic matters. Turned into an adjective i didnt quite get. President maxwell Public Comment on this item. Clerk members of the public who wish to make Public Comment on item 19, dial 4156550001, meeting i. D. , and pound, pound. To raise your hand to speak, press star, three. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Operator there are no callers in the queue at this time. Clerk thank you. Public comment on item 19 is closed. President maxwell commissioners, may i get a motion and a second to approve this item, please . So moved. 160,661, presented by a. G. M. Ritchie. Good afternoon again, commissioners. This is extending our work with those six agencies to evaluate closely all of the portable reuse wastewater options around the area of redwood city and san mateo, including transporting highly treated water and placing it in Crystal Spring reservoir. Weve been working successfully together for the last few years, and this is a continuation of that. Again, on the feasibility side, one of the things that, you know, we still have to go through with the state is, for direct potable reuse, we have to evaluate the possibilities for those, but we are looking at what it take to reuse waste wear. This is a continuation of that work. The total for the work is about 282,000 in this next phase, and i recommend your approval. President maxwell and how close are you to coming up with a plan . These are very interesting and challenging subjects and d delicate subjects. We dont want to run to those too hastily, so this next phase of effort is going to take about two years to make sure we come possible use for options that we can find for that part of the world. And hopefully, you know, within i think this one, i dont recall off the top of my head, but we can get to a feasible project possible in about six years. President maxwell really . Okay. Thank you. Public comment on this item . Clerk members of the public who wish to make two minutes of Public Comment on item 20, dial 415, 6550001. Meeting i. D. 1462731257, pound, pound. To raise your hand to speak, press star, three. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Operator madam secretary, there is one caller in the queue. Clerk thank you. Operator go ahead, caller. Hi, peter dreickmeyer, Tuolomne River trust. You heard a figure from staff, and it was repeated today, that you might need up to 93 million gallons a day, and i think that figure is so overblown. I sent you a letter in may, laying out a plan for managing water supply with the baydelta plan in effect. My conclusion was it was a reasonable approach that youd need about 19 million gallons per day of additional water. Id be happy to send that letter to you again or discuss it with you. This Crystal Springs project or whatever it turns out to be is looking at about 9 m. G. D. , so just about half of what you might need. And its a great idea, and i encourage you to approve it, and, again, look forward to having more conversations about how many more you really will need in the future. Thank you. Operator thank you, caller. Madam secretary, there are no more callers in the queue. Clerk thank you. Public comment on item 20 is closed. Madam president , youre muted. President maxwell thats why you werent answering me. May i have a motion and a second to approve this item, please . Vice president moran ill move it. Second. President maxwell its been moved and seconded its been moved and seconded. May i have a roll call vote, please. [roll call] clerk you have four ayes. President maxwell motion item is approved. Next item, please, madam clerk. Clerk madam president , your next item is item 21, approve the reallocation of 20 million in existing appropriations in the fiscal year 202021 power Enterprise Capital plan from the s. F. O. Substation project, street replacement project and intervening facilities project to the bay corridor transmissiondistribution project and authorize the general manager to seek mayor and board of supervisors approval of a supplemental appropriation for the deappropriation and reappropriation of 8 million from the streetlight replacement project to the bctd project. Good evening again, commissioners. Recall this project, which is under construction now, is critical to provide Power Service to the improved southeast Wastewater Treatment facility, pier 70, and other new customers along the southeast waterfront. Since the Commission Approved the plan in february, the cost estimate for the plan has increased by 28 million, to a total of 175 million. The main increase in the project cost is attributable to the cost of the project substation. The substation was estimated at a cost of 35 million, based on preliminary design. With completion of the 35 of the design, the engineers estimate was 55 million. The lowest bid evaluated for the engineering procurement and construction of the substation was approximately 60 million. To allow the project to continue, given these higher cost, power Enterprise Staff recommends reallocating 20 million in existing budget allocations by reprioritizing three other Capital Project appropriations. First, the appropriation of 9 million to the s. F. O. Substation project. Second, the 8 million appropriated to our streetlights facility project. The remaining 8 million is for project contingency. We arent asking for that in this particular action. We will continue to monitor the budget for completion and will bring forward any additional funding requests at part of our fiscal year as part of our fiscal year 22 budget if necessary to complete the project, and with that, im happy to answer any questions you have. Im asking for your support. Question. Questions . Yes. On the s. F. O. Project, i understand that that projects not needed right away. Do you have an estimate as to how soon that project is going to need to be funded again . Yeah. We dont have that yet, commissioner. Our staff continues to work with the airport staff as they readjust their Capital Planning in the face of covid and in light of their changed needs, so were in ongoing communication with them, and really, just sort of trying to be available and responsive to their needs. Is there any work going on on that . What im wondering about is, if we suddenly have to start this thing up again, as the economy gets into gear, and we have to start this thing up, will we be able to respond to meet that need . Yeah, so at this point, were the any efforts would be the early planning and Engineering Development work for it . We are continuing to look at what the airports loads are and the capacity if the capacity of the current substations are adequate to meet their loads. We realize that this substation construction and refurbishment involves a lot of long lead time purchase items, so we will need to continue to work with the airport to be responsive to their needs . They they are not sounding anxious or ready to advance this this substation work. We would need to do more preliminary planning work, professional Services Needs would be our early need, and i feel like through our existing contracts and professional services dollars, we should be able to meet what are modest planning work would continue with the airport staff. Okay. Thank you. Youre welcome. President maxwell any other discussion . I have a question. So what was the main reason for the project substation increase from 35 to 55 and then, ultimately, 60 million . Yeah, i think part of it is just learning more about the extent of the project, some of the additional civil work that needed to be completed that hadnt been anticipated in the initial initial assessment. President maxwell in particular, what was that . Was it foundation . Was it something what did they find . So as i understand it, there were there was a need to do some more civil work on the walls around the around the site. Thats my understanding. It was mostly a civil work of that nature. So they had the the structure, the infrastructure of it, the walls the foundation or Something Like that, and they werent expecting that . Yes, and just the nature of a project like this, that as you learn more about it, cost estimates are refined. Yeah, but from 35 million to 60, thats quite a bit. Thats 25 million more for walls, so thats what makes me wonder, you know, what else there was to that. So barbara yes. So this project, when the initial estimate was that at what percentage 35 . The original 35 was at what . It says, upon completion of the 35 design the estimate was right. Thats when it it was it was originally the preliminary design, harlan, was 35 million. Then with the 35 design, it went up to 55, and then, the bids came in at 60. So so, commissioner, i just so the progression of bids, thats why i was asking a 10 , which you really dont know much, just about, you know, general layout, you know, information about some of the equipment that you may have. When you get to 35, thats when you have more detail about, you know, how far you have to excavate, you have to look at the soil there. So when you look at a 35 estimate, youd have a better, you know, indication of, plus or minus, of what that bid is, and the actual bid i mean, the actual price is when the contractor bids it. So i just wanted to say the actual progression of when it was 35, i dont know if it was 5 or 10 of design, where you had no details. So thats what it is, the preliminary design, the very initial, the very beginning, and as they went deeper into it, they found more issues. More requirements, more details. So the theme that youll see, when we normally come to the commission, it is when we have 95 drawings or 100 , and then, we go out and do or get a contractor bid, so youll start seeing the prices be llow engineering estimate. We dont share the prices with 35, 65, until we get to 95 because this is what the commission is used to seeing. Its unforeseen conditions that we start incorporating into the price. In this situation, it was a, you know, 10 , and now 35, we based it, and then, the actual bid, you know, came in 5 million over what it was at 35 . Well, i just think when the public is listening, they dont have all that information. Oh, yeah. So its important to plug in what happened between 35 and 55 so people dont go astray here. All right. So thank you. Thank you. Mmhmm. Any further any other questions or comments, commissioners . Public comment on this item . Clerk members of the public who wish to make two minutes of Public Comment on item 21, dial 4156550001, meeting i. D. , and pound, pound. To raise your hand to speak, press star, three. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . Operator madam secretary, we have one caller with hand raised. Clerk thank you. Operator caller, do you wish to speak to item 21 . Caller, are you there . Im sorry. I did not sign up for this one. This is peter dreickmeyer. I think it might have been from last time. Sorry. Operator thank you. Madam secretary, there are no other callers in the queue. Clerk thank you. Public comment is closed. President maxwell may i get a motion and a second to approve this item . Ill move it. President maxwell may i have a second . Vice president moran second. President maxwell its been moved and seconded. Madam secretary, roll call, please. [roll call] clerk you have president maxwell thank you. Motion has been approved. Madam secretary, is there any further business before the commission . Clerk sorry, madam president. That concludes your business for good morning, everyone, this is november 4th, 2020 budget and finance committee. Im chairman fewer. And im joined by supervisor mandelman. I would like to thank sfgov for staffing this. The board of supervisors and the Committee Room are closed. However, members will be participating in this meeting remotely. [inaudible] Public Comments will be