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Good afternoon everyone. The meeting will come to order. Welcome to the july 9, 2020 meeting of the rules committee im supervisor hillary ronen. With me is supervisor catherine stefani. And gordon mar. I like to thank sfgov tv for staffing this meeting. Mr. Clerk, do you have any announcement . Yes, due to covid19 emergency, City Employees and the public, board of trustees legislative chamber are closed. Members will be participating in the meeting remotely. Committee members will attend the meeting through Video Conference and participate in the meeting to the same extent as if they were physically present. Public comment will be available on each item on the agenda both channel 26 and sfgov tv. Org. Our streaming numbers across the screen. Each speaker will be allowed two minutes to speak unless comments are opportunities to speak during the Public Comment period are available via phone. Number is 408 4189388. You will hear the meeting discussion. Youll be muted and in listen mode only. When your item comes up, dial star 33. Best practice is to call from quiet location and turn down your television or radio. You may submit comment in email to myself, rules committee cle clerk, if you submit comment by email it will be forwarded to the supervisors. Supervisor ronen thank you so much. Before get started today, i want to make sure i let everyone know that im going to move item three out of order at the end of the meeting. Given yesterdays budget meeting and the inspiring outpouring of constituent voices with regard to the sfpd budget and staffing. We expect theres going to be many people here today and we wanted to take the other items that will go a lot faster out of order so that those of us who might be there until late are able to stay here and listen to every Single Member of the public speak. In addition because weve heard many of these items several times before and for timing issues, were going to be limiting all Public Comment today to one minute on every single item. With that, mr. Clerk, can you please call item number one. [agenda item read] supervisor ronen thank you so much. The Comptroller Office is here with us. Are you here, ben . Maybe not. Do any of my colleagues have any comment about this item . If not, i will open this up for Public Comment. Well see if ben joins us. Mr. Clerk, are there any members of the public who wish to speak on this item . I believe operation will be checking to see if theres any parties who wish to speak. Sorry, im looking through my notes. Members of the public who wish to make Public Comment on this matter, if you have not already done so, please press star 3 to be added to the queue to speak. Are there any members of the public for Public Comment on this item . Yes, i have one caller in the queue. Supervisor ronen welcome caller. You have one minute. Im sorry, i pressed this because of the order. Im here to comment on another item. My apologies. Supervisor ronen no problem. Is there any other members of the public who wish to speak . That completes the queue. Supervisor ronen okay. I am wondering as supervisor stefani if you have any comment or motions to make . Supervisor stefani yes. Thank you. Its my understanding that it would be good to move this item to the Budget Finance Committee to shore it up with the other tax measures. Like to make a motion to send this item to our budget and finance committee. Supervisor ronen okay, if we can have a roll call vote on that motion. On the motion to defer this matter to the budget and finance committee. [roll call] the motion passes. Supervisor ronen thank you so much. Can you please read item number two. [agenda item read] supervisor ronen thank you. Do we have supervisor preston, the author of this measure with us today . We do not. Maybe while we wait for him unless my colleagues have comments, we can open this up for Public Comment. Members of the public who wish to provide Public Comment on this item should call 408 4189388 to meeting i. D. Is please wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted and you may begin your comment. Are there any members of the public to speak at this time . There are currently three callers in the queue. Supervisor ronen every caller will have one minute to speak and just letting supervisor preston know, well hear from you after we call Public Comment since you werent here when we started. Sorry about that. Thank you. Supervisor ronen first caller. If you can hear me, jordan david. Im in support of this real estate transfer tax. This is going to really help were in the budget crises now. Im glad to see that theres going to progressive tax on the ballot to help recover from this and push us forward. Im glad to see lot of this will go to covid19 rent relief as well as social housing which is really great. Im hoping that 8 million funds can be done to help for rent burden support housing tenants like myself. Thats all i want to say on this issue. Thank you very much. Im artem im with district six. Im strongly in favor of this proposal. I think that the landlords of the city have held way too much power for too long. The city help to further their power. Its time to reverse that trend. We need to take money from the rich in San Francisco and give it back to the people of San Francisco who are struggling terribly during a crises when the city is still its time citys money and landlords money to help the people of this city with rent relief, transitioning to social housing and all the things that these people desperately need in the face of struggle here. Thats all. Supervisor ronen thank you. My name is theresa. Im calling in support of the transfer tax measure. I know having worked on proposition g, that unfortunately, failed that have been one measure that would stop the speculation at a time when the tax was used to just to get people out and to create luxury units out of our rent control buildings. If we could learn from our past, going forward, what we need above all is housing stability. We do not need Holding Companies investors coming in to serve their own needs. This is really important. I am so grateful to supervisor preston for putting this on the ballot and we are having this public hearing. Thank you so much. Thank you. Next speaker please. Long time renter and member of disability action. I support the proposed transfer tax. I believe it provides a balance and very fair recovery from covid19 rent mortgage problems. I too worked on the prop g campaign. That was at the height of the evictions and that tax was aimed reducing the speculation that drove the eviction. It didnt pass. Now the covid is threaten to overwhelm us. This transfer tax is a recovery tax. To me, i call it the smart cousin of prop g. Its a winwin. Provides help for renters and small landlords and it reduces speculation by producing Affordable Housing. This recovery tax is easy way to ward off suffering of many. While asking those who are not suffering to share the burden. Thank you. Thank you. Next caller please. Im district six resident calling in to support the transfer tax. Thank you for supervisor preston bringing this up. Its a great way to kind of help with the inequity going on in our city. This is something that is very important right now. Especially with covid but in general with the way San Francisco has grown. This is a tax thats beneficial. Thank you. Next speaker please. Hello, todd schneider, resident of district five and calling in support of this measure proposed by supervisor preston. I want to echo the comments made previously. California has a real state speculation crises. Prop g fail to pass. This measure will alleviate some of the burden renters face in this state. I encourage all of the supervisors to vote yes and support this transfer tax. Thank you. Next caller please. Hi there. My name is Kayla Williams. Im a district four resident. Im calling in support of this transfer tax measure because now more than ever in this time of covid, we really take the time to protect our renters including folks like myself. Our city is facing a housing crises and renter crises. [indiscernible] next caller please. Are there any additional callers at this time . Yes. [indiscernible] some tenants are likely to become homeless. We have a responsibility to prevent homelessness. This measure will discourage eviction of our vulnerable population provide funding for those who end up losing their home. Thank you. Next caller please. Im calling on behalf of bill housing program. Were nonprofit that does lot of housing counseling. Were very supportive of this measure. Weve seen our clients like so many others. Loss of wages is no fault of their own. This ordinance gets that rent relief which we really need. We need to start distributing capital to people who need it most. We can see what happened with the last recession and wall street took over the real estate market. I think at the end of the day, we tend to say we need people over profit. The real question its really which people are getting the profit. We see this time and time again, wealth being redistributed, profit redistributed to the people who really dont need it. Were very supportive of this bill. I hope you support it. Thank you. Next caller please. Im a San Francisco tenant. I support the Ballot Initiative ordinance and hope that you do pass this on through to double the transfer tax paid by the seller. Particularly, nice about this, it the tax will be waived if the city or nonprofit for Affordable Housing. As you know, half the proceeds will go towards that covid debt thats hanging over the tenants head and the landlord have not been able to collect. Thank you supervisor preston for doing that and for looking out for Affordable Housing as well to provide us with the funds. Thank you. Next caller. Hello caller, please proceed. Im a counselor at the housing right committees. Now in the moment of this total catastrophe, this is the time to make sure we have the revenue to preserve the housing stability for our most vulnerable san franciscans. Theres no better source than the wall Street Investment firms and real estate speculators who has unspent capital in ready to scoop up high value real estate. They need to pay more of their fair share. Thank you so much for placing this ordinance on the ballot. Next speaker please. I live in district eight in San Francisco. Im calling in support of the transfer tax. [indiscernible] supervisor preston for writing this proposal. It puts little equity in our city. Thank you very much. Next caller please. Im charlotte and im a resident of district four. Im urging you to vote yes. We need to start protecting our renters. The housing crises in San Francisco is major emergency. Housing displacement can be a death sentence especially now during covid. Thank you. Next caller. I have witnessed over and over again the rich given tax breaks. Now were seeing socialism is no longer a dirty word. We understand whos doing the work that needs to be done and we start having people Flip Properties in San Francisco without paying the transfer tax. We need that because of covid. We strongly support this measure that preston has introduced to help us make up for the failed give away to the rich that has happened for so many decades in San Francisco. Thank you. Next caller please. Please proceed. My name is erica im from district four. I support this extremely were finally taking some steps hopefully towards getting some control of the speculative market in San Francisco. Which is huge. I hope all the supervisors will strongly support this and get it on the ballot and get it into law. Thank you very much. Next caller please. Im peter, i live in district five. I support the measure. Taxing the hell out of landlords and speculators. Give that money for public good. Thank you. Next caller please. Im in support of dean prestons transfer tax and with the inequity of wealth distributed within San Francisco, i believe now more than ever, we need to protect renters rights. I urge the board to vote yes on this please. Thank you so much. Next caller. Im curtis bradford. Im calling in support of dean prestton prestons measure to create tax increase. Were in time of great need and were in time of housing crises, well be facing additional evictions and challenges. It is definitely the time that we should be increasing the taxes on speculators and the wealthy and close some of this wealth gap, especially in this time of crises. I think that the wealthy and the speculators should be willing to pay their fair share in the time of crises. I really encourage the passage of this and vote yes on this. Put it before the voters and let them make the decision. Thank you very much. Next caller. Im a tenant in district seven. Lot of people spoken about the urgency of this, the threat of this. I wanted to announce my support for this measure because i think its an exciting opportunity. Maximus are the people who own the housing, they are deeply overleverage. I think its a great opportunity for Community Activist and Affordable Housing in this current moment. I think this year is the perfect time to push a measure like th this. Maybe once working people can get a benefit from the current market. Next caller please. Im a tenant in district four. Im in huge support of supervisor preston ballot measure. I think its something we should definitely pass. Thank you. Members of the public, were on line who wish to speak, should dial star 3. Next caller please. Im eric brooks. I coordinate our city San Francisco local grass rats nonprofits. Its important to understand that housing and also rental property for Small Businesses should not be a subject of speculation at all. It is the reason that our Small Businesses and tenants are being devastated in San Francisco and kicked out. People need to understand that this issue of buying and selling property without even caring how much it cost, just raising the value over and over again, is what drives big pump for the global failing economy thats not handled properly by international banks. This tax gets us on the first step to setting the tax, letting speculators know that this is unpopular and we dont want them to speculate on real estate. It gives them enough time so that we can raise this overtime until they can get out of the business your time has expired. Next caller please. Im calling today in support of the tax, simply put, to put this measure on the ballot. Many of us said this already. I want to echo all those beautiful voices. Please put this on the ballot because honestly this will be a big time for bigger majority. Capitalism has consumed the city. Thats it, thank you. Next caller please. My name is marie. Im a d5 resident and voter. Im calling in support of supervisor prestons measure to increase transfer tax. Really big opportunity for revenue for Affordable Housing program, especially the 30 now campaign. Which would provide all Supportive Housing tenants with rent that was only 30 of their income. Thats a huge thing for people being able to maintain their housing and reducing homelessness. Lets take the money from the rich and give it to the poor because thats who actually needs it. Thank you. Next caller. My name is maggie. Im work on coalition on homelessness. I think the funds raised through the transfer tax increase will hold sfgov accountable. I urge all the supervisors to vote yes and push it to the ballot. Thank you so much. Next caller. Good afternoon supervisors. Im angelica. Im with the Community Action network. We provide counseling to tenants all over the city, especially to filipino resident who are constantly being harassed or pushed out the city. We are in full support of this ballot measure, especially the antispeculation and rent relief program. Right now were constantly seeing tenants being harassed by their landlord because they cannot pay rent due to loss of income. Even though we have eviction moratorium. Landlords are still going after their tenants and making it really hard for them to live peacefully, in addition we are seeing in the markets, lot of speculators and landlords trying to sell their building even though we have copa in place. They are still trying to find ways to get their tenants to your time is expired. Next speaker please. I was hoping to follow up with you about your contribution for 2020. Feel free to reach out to me and i will do my best to reach back out to you. Thank you again for your support. We appreciate you. Next speaker please. Have you already made your Public Comment . I have not. Please proceed. Im San Francisco resident. Im calling to advocate for the removal of the mandatory member officers. These funds will be used to alleviate the Public Health crises that were facing now due to covid as well as to ensure that were funding not only programs for young people but addressing the institutionalized racism in particular black folks here in San Francisco at this time due to policing of our institution. I encourage all Board Members to stand behind the community and to ensure moving forward for housing and racial and Economic Justice and ensuring that we allocate funds to do the work. Thank you so much. I like to remind the people on the call, were currently taking Public Comment for item number two on the agenda. Which is the hearing on the Initiative Ordinance for the business and tax regulation code. If youre on the line and you wish to make a public on item two, you may press star 3 to be placed in the queue to speak. Next speaker please. Hi, im a San Francisco resident and an immigrant. I believe that the covid19 pandemic has disproportionately affected black and brown communities. I think this ballot measure gives us the infrastructure and the opportunity to make sure that our community can still live in San Francisco, the city is still liveable. Best way to do is by taxing these big Real Estate Companies that have exploited black and brown people, have evicted immigrants and black and brown people in massive rates. I believe that this measure will really help with that. Next caller please. I like to ask how many people on line . This is violation of brown act youre discouraging people from speaking. Is this intentional . Time for your Public Comment at this point. Please proceed. I really appreciate all the work you did yesterday. Youre really awesome as a moderator. For some reason today, you start announcing how many people are in line if were doing this in person, you would know. This is a real problem. If not i request City Attorney to make a call. I just received that information. There are five people waiting in line to speak at this time. Please continue to notify us how many people are in line. This should near a real inperson meeting. Thank you. Do you have any comments to make . Next caller. Im district six resident voter, whatever. I was calling in support of dean prestons measure and it should definitely go up for a vote. Quite frankly, most people who live in the city have no way to maybe own their own homes but short of that, short of having actual stable housing that will vanish, it will be super nice if the housing wasnt owned by people using them like asset. Making it harder for people to do that is probably a good plan. I think the people of San Francisco will be into the idea not having the houses sold exclusively people who trying to raise their profits. This seem like a good idea and it will be nice to put this in front of your time has expired. Next caller please. Im a member of senior disability action and the tenants union. I live in district eight and rent controlled building which is quickly becoming market rate all the units. Im speaking strongly in support of getting this measure on the ballot and actually we need three of these measures. Thanks to dean preston to lead this. I hope its a unanimous vote today. You noticed the change in the 20 plus years ive been here in the population. There are very few people of colour here. They cant afford it. We need may attention to getting low and moderate Income Housing and making it available for people for Service Workers particularly. Thank you very much. Next caller. Please proceed. My name is jan. I live in district three, supervisor prestons district. I have been living here as a tenant since 2008. Im also volunteer with [indiscernible]. Right now im part of local tenants trying to organize in the district so we would have more power politically. Im calling in to support supervisor prestons proposal and i want to say lot of thanks to supervisor preston for always supporting tenants rights and to try and make housing affordable. My other comment is, i used to speaker time has elapsed. Next speaker please. This is karen. Im a resident of district one. Like to add my voice to support supervisor prestons tax measure. I worry about the most vulnerable living in the city, especially our black and Brown Community members. We cannot call ourselves a progressive city without supporting the renters and small landlord who are facing high anxiety and financial struggle. We have consistently pushed out and oppressed the black Community Since the 1960s increasing the economic gap. We cannot risk and continue this. We need to tax wealthiest Real Estate Investors. Thank you. I yield my time. Thank you. Members of the public who wish to provide Public Comment on this item should call 408 4189388 if you have not already done so, please dial star 3 to line up to speak. Please wait for the system to indicate you have been unmuted. At this time, we have 66 callers and four waiting in line to speak. Next caller please. Im a resident of district 10 and like everyone else im calling in support of dean preston tax measure to the ballot this november. We need to start taxing the wealthy, Real Estate Agents that are taking over all of the Affordable Housing. Also despite working multiple jobs and having college education, once the city starts taxing all these predatory Real Estate Agents will be reinvest in our communities and truly have a loving supporting Citizen Community here. I think everyone is in support. It should be a pretty easy vote for you all. Thank you. Next caller. Im camille. Im a resident of district nine. Im calling as well as everyone else to give my support for this initiative to be on the ballot in november. I want to thank supervisor preston for introducing this. I want to thank my supervisor ronen for sponsoring it. I think like the previous caller, this is an easy decision. We should put this to a vote in november. Thank you. Next caller please. You may proceed. My name is sean and im an d9 resident. I want to call in to support supervisor prestons ballot measure to increase taxes on large real estate transaction. Especially in the midst of a pandemic induced economic downturn. We need to support those who need Affordable Housing and not real estate speculators. I urge the supervisors to put this on the ballot. Thank you supervisor preston for putting this forward. Thank you. Next caller please. My name is sarah. Im calling in support of the transfer tax. Thank you supervisor preston for introducing this ordinance. I want to remind you all this is a race issue. This is a black lives matter issue. Wealth and inequality is destroying the city. Please support getting this transfer tax on the ballot. Thank you. Next caller. Hello, please continue to practice physical distance and social solidarity. This tax revenue help support solidarity. I spoke in favor of the eviction moratorium, even though there were some very stories about small owners who like so dependent on getting their rent. With 140 san franciscans not able to work because of no fault of their own, because of failures of our own government, we had to put a healthy to the o evictions. Im a San Francisco tenant. Im speaking on behalf of the entire the coalition. The coalition is made up of multiple groups that represent tenants as well as Affordable Housing and fighting for the homeless. We are strongly in support of supervisor prestons measures and hope that it passes. We think its a Smart Solution to the problem of this economic downturn. During the foreclosure crises back in 2009, we saw massive transfer of wealth away from black and brown including small landlords as well as tenants. That transfer went to large real estate speculators. That money hasnt come back. This is a chance for us to prevent that in small part and use some of that money to help build the solution, speaker time is up. Hi. Im resident of district nine, the taxpayer. I want to speak in support of this measure. Mostly because rent is too high. Its the real estate speculators making life miserable for the rest of the working people in San Francisco. Supervisors, i urge you to support this measure. You always talk about how youre going to do something about the Affordable Housing crises and we have no Affordable Housing. Its these greedy landlords and real estate speculators. Lets make the city affordable for the working people of San Francisco and not the landlords and the real estate speculators. Thanks. You cant beat santa claus when he gives away everything all time. You know youre going to have hard time winning in november. Santa claus is going to be writein candidate for you. Hes going to go up against you. Guaranteed, going down buddy. Members of the public, that wish to speak at this time on item number two, should dial star 3 at this time. We currently have 68 callers and five parties waiting in line to speak. I am a medical student at ucf. I want to highlight the way that dean preston tax transfer really gets to the heart of the problem that so many san franciscans are dealing with, which is rent is too damn high. These are issues that pressing for our community. I want to support this measure. Thank you. Hi, thank you, good afternoon. Im in district three. Im also member of housing right community of San Francisco. San francisco housing crises is extremely high. Even before covid19. What we need to have is keep housing affordable. Right now housing is a crises. I do support supervisor dean preston. Thank you. My name is david woo. Im with the filipino Culture Heritage district. Were in support of this measu measure. We need Strong Solutions and stabilize people in place including by purchasing assisted housing wit. We support this measure. Thank you. My name is sam. Im a resident of district one. Im calling to support this ordinance. I also appreciate supervisor preston to enforce this ordinance. I hope the Committee Passes it so that voters can vote on it in november. Thank you and i yield my time. We know that all the folks thrown out of work, if anything, the crises will increase. That is the housing issue in San Francisco. We enthusiastically support taxing the sale of 10 million buildings and such and using that money to pay peoples back ren and keep them in their homes. Housing is a critical right. It will continue to be so and super wealthy need to pay their fair share. Thanks. My name is emily. I live in district nine. I also support dean prestons tax measure. Almost 70 of my income goes to rent. This is a race issue and a black lives matter issue. We need to support them especially this pandemic. The people in it city have a right to homeownership, or any housing. Tax the wealthy and redistribute the wealth to the community. Thank you dean preston. We hope you get unanimous support on this. This measure is an opportunity to lower the wealth gap and make housing for affordable for the people who live here in the wealthy deserve to pay their fair share. The least we can do is get this on the ballot and vote. Thank you. Next caller please. This is michael soto with the National Union healthcare workers. Calling in favor of this measure with the economic crises, health crises, the pandemic going on in this country in the city of San Francisco, this is something the residents need. This is something black and brown communities need. We know the wealthiest in our communities can afford to do this at the least. We urge this to be placed on the ballot. Thank you. [please stand by] the rise of Corporate Investors in the span of six years from 2011 to 2017. Ve ritas owned 250 buildings and 5500 households. For Investment Firms like veritas and they are far from the only big corporate landlord in town, the path to profit for these firms is premised on displacement, forcing rent control tenants out of homes and extracting the profit margin needed to satisfy hungry investors. When we talk about eviction and displacement and the crisis that low income communities of color have faced in the city over the past decade, the result has completely transformed the profile who calls this city home, we need to recognize the role that speculative Real Estate Investors anchorporate landlords play. Nationwide between 2009 ap2012 africanamericans lost 200 billion in wealth, a 201 ratio. According to 2012 National Fair Housing Alliance report, the largest logs of wealth for these communities in modern history. The story of the outmigration of communities of color from the bay area is tied to the market consolidation seen in the real estate sector. Fast forward to today, Real Estate Investors are preparing for a potential bonanza in the aftermath of covid19, as the wall street journal reported in april. A recent bloomberg report found private equity firms entered with 1. 5 trillions making these cash ready to take on new properties, exponentially nor so than in the Great Recession in 2008. If we avoid this devastating impact we need to take action. That is the intent of the measure before you today. The transfer tax increase speaks to address the harm you will effects of real estate speculation and consolidation in two important ways. First, it incentivizes the transfer of property from private ownership to entities that do not have a profit imperative. It accomplishes this goal by weighing the transfer waiving the transfer tax if the Property Owner sells the building to the city and county of San Francisco or nonprofit. In the case of a property value, for example at 10 million where the owner sells to city or nonprofit they see a cost savings more than a halfmillion dollars. To tip the scales from one Investment Firm to another. Both on eviction and displacement and incentivize sales for the purpose of creating Affordable Housing. Second, for high value transactions in the private real estate market, the city under this proposal will generate more revenue. The tax rate of sales increases from 2. 75 to 5. 5 . For properties more than 25 million the tax rate increases from 3 to 6 . It would generate 196 million annually. With the projected downturn with the amount of investment cash on hand one can estimate this will result in between 100 and 150 million additional revenue per year on the short term and 2 0 million annually in the longterm. What is before the committee and public today is a relatively straightforward change in the business and tax code to double rate of transfer tax for properties at 10 million or more. Voters will vote on this in november. It is part of a larger effort, the ferry cover repack fair recovery package to avoid the housing injusticeis i described and callers described of the recent past. The first use of those funds is through a rent resolution and relief fund by an ordinance we introduced in june coming before the full board soon and in committee. We proposed half the funds generated will be directed to rent resolution relief to provide grants to Property Owners that waived rents due during the pandemic. It will prioritize small landlords with 10 or fewer units and cover up to 50 of unpaid represent. Any funds not granted under that program will refer to existing back rent programs in the city. The other half of the gunneds generated by the tax would finance creation or acquisition of property for permanently affordable social housing including land banking, Community Land trust, ited equity coops, Municipal Housing or other housing efforts where the city maintains interest or grants control for the residents while providing Affordable Housing opportunities on site. This is what it looks like in my view how we can start to make housing a human right in our city by taxing the wealthiest real estate transactions and covid rent relief and dedicated resources to social housing. We must start by racing the revenue needed to promote housing stability. That is the aim of transfer tax before the committee before and in front of voters in november. Thank you, chair ronen for the opportunity to address the community and public on this measure. I look forward to gaining support from the measure as we move forward. Thank you. Thank you so much, supervisor preston. I am excited about this legislation that deals with the reality that we are in right now. I have been engaged in sort of an organizing effort along with you and many of our colleagues since the beginning of this crisis talking and demanding from our federal and State Government that they cancel and waive back rent for the residents of San Francisco and of the entire country. The homeless crisis that we are battling on the streets today is going to look simple compared to what we are going to see if there are not major programs put in place that provide relief to not only tenants but small landlords who have foregone rent during this period. The combination of how you thought out the different pieces of this legislation get at all of the different aspects and ramifications what is coming because of the covid crisis and the accompanying economic crisis that has come with it. I just want to give you my deepest appreciation. I am an enthusiastic cosponsor of this measure. I am looking forward to being out and campaigning the best we can between now and november so that it passes. Thank you so much. Do any of my other colleagues have questions or comments . Yes, thank you. I want to express my thanks to supervisor peskin for leadership on this important measure. I am proud to cosponsor this. Pretty modest increase in onetime transfer tax paid by Real Estate Investors of 10 million or more to provide revenue to support small Property Owners who agree to rent relief for their tenants and renters and Small Businesses. Also, we will provide significant new revenue to address the housing crisis we have been grappling with as the city. It is getting worse due to covid19. Thank you, supervisor peskin. I look forward to voters weighing in on this and i suspect it will pass in november. Supervisor stefani. Any questions . Not at this time. Thank you so much. I will make a motion that this item has been heard and filed. Is that necessary . Yes. The motion is to file the matter. Great. If we can have a roll call vote on my motion. On that motion. Supervisor stefani. Aye. Supervisor mar. Aye cheer ronen. Aye. The matter is heard and filed. Thank you, supervisor peskin. Preston. Chair ronen, you are muted. Mr. Clerk, please call item 4 out of order. To create the office of public advocate, set the powers and duties, authorize the public advocate to review the administration of city powers and duties and programs and services and attempt to resolve complaints, authorize to receive and investigate complaints and election and removal and salary at election on november 3, 2020. Thank you so much. Supervisor mar. Thank you, chair ronen. I made remarks on this already. I will make one final amendment removing the requirement candidates for the office be licensed attorneys. This has been shared by email to the Committee Members and clerk prior to the start of this meeting. After further discussion and deliberations we feel this requirement is unnecessary barrier to the office that doesnt exist for many other elected offices in the city including the supervisor and mayor. It is a better policy choice to remove it. This is the final amendment. I have spoken on this before. I want to remind the committee there is no office that provides citywide oversight how city departments interact with public and no office to eliminate corruption, fraudulent waste of taxpayer money and abuse of public trust. The need is clear. San franciscSan Francisconeeds r corruption to make our City Government more accountable and transparent. We need to be proactive and need a longterm solution for this longterm problem. This is the key part of that solution. I urge you to support it today. Thanks. Thank you so much. If there are no other comments. Supervisor stefani did you have any comments . No. Okay, great. Can we open this up for Public Comment. Yes. Members of the public wishing to provide Public Comment 401 4189388. The meeting id1465397752. If you have not done so please dial star three to line up to speak. The system will indicate you have raised your hand. Wait until you have been unmuted and you may begin comment. This is Public Comment on item 4 regarding the Charter Amendment for public advocate. We currently have nine parties in line to speak at this time. Each speaker will have one minute. Would the public advocate is fine it was undemocratic to move item 3. I am calling to demand that you pass the Charter Amendment to undo the citys enshrinement of sworn offices. In the future we dont need that much cops. It is the minimum should be zero. That is what we need. Abolish the San Francisco Police Department now. Stop moving stuff around in the meetings. Thank you. I am going to interrupt for a moment. We are not going to take further comment for item 3. I did move item 3 around on the schedule because we anticipate a lot of Public Comment for that item. Out of respect for our colleagues who dont fit on this committee but must be here for their item. We moved item 3 to the end. The remaining items should not take too long. We will get to item 3 shortly. We are now hearing comment on item 4. I ask you, mr. Clerk, to not allow speakers to speak on item 3 yet. We are looking forward to hearing from them when we call that item. If there is any speaker on item 4, if we could hear those speakers now. If you wish to speak on item 4 bles4 press star 3. Can we have next caller, please. Hello, mark solo man calling from mission. This raises questions. Why cant the supervisors, superrise. That is your job. Where was the controller as responsible adult in the room . One more official to tip that balance . I dont think so. We need a Community Charter convention to figure out why government iwhy thegovernment i. I support the previous item and next item. Tax the rich and bring cops to zero. Thank you. Next caller for item 4. Jordan davis here again. I support the public advocate. I remember voting for prop h to bring that in 2016. Of course, that failed. Really after the whole scandal and all of the false shi shit wh the mayor it is time for the public advocate on the ballot. Maybe it will be prop h again. Please pass this, get this out. If you dont support this, then you just dont care about good government. Over and out. Thank you. Next caller, please. Hi. Certainly i think that corruption in the city is a big problem and it has been for a long time. I dont know how far back, certainly back to the days of moscone. There needs to be a forum. My concern is that this housing from the inside. When the whole system is wrong. What safeguards are being taken place to make sure this public advocate is not just someone that will placate people, it is hand picked by the mayor or Something Like that. How do we know the public advocate is not corrupt . What are you doing to address that . That is what i would like to know. Thank you. Next caller, please. Hi. I am kale williams. I am copresident of the club. I am speaking in favor of the public advocate position. It is important. As you look at the history, we have a colorful history of corruption in City Government. I think that is a way to take really bold steps towards addressing and changing that. This is going to really put forward some changes that need to be made having someone from outside of those currently making decisions is what it needs. It can be voted on by us as citizens of the city. It is important. It is bold, wonderful. I am in full support. Thank you for putting this forward, supervisor mar. Thank you. I would like to state members of the public online to speak on this matter dial star 3. We currently have six members of the public waiting to speak on the matter. Next caller, please. Good afternoon. I am cochoice of the tenderloin peoples committee. I am in support of the measure for public advocate. I want to say that we have seen a pattern of corruption in the city. That is not the real San Francisco. This is not a solution to corruption or solve all problems. It is one positive step in the right direction to begin to address it. The next problem that exists and restore public trust in the system. It will help elevate the situation about additional work that needs to be done to really bring more transparent and accountability throughout City Government. This is not an end to this problem, not a final solution but a step in the right direction. Your time has elapsed. Thank you. Next caller, please. Hello. Edtodd snider district five. I support this. New york city has a public advocate. You dont need to reinvent the wheel here. I want to clarify to the supervisors that the public has lost a lot of trust after the scandal with the department of public works and f. B. I. Investigation. This is one step on the road to restoring public trust in the institutions of government. I strongly urge all supervisors to vote yes and to go forward and approve the public advocate. Thank you. Thank you. Next caller, please. Hello,. [ inaudible ] i am speaking for myself. We need the public advocate. I appreciate supervisor mar bringing this back to our ability to get it passed this time. We need to hold our people accountable in more ways than once every four or six years. Thank you for putting this forward. Please pass it along so we can vote it in. Thank you. Next caller, please. Hello, i am calling in support of the public advocate. I think this is really necessary as a step to increase public trust, and i think having more outreach and understanding about how, for instance, to give Public Comment and other ways the public can be more engaged in this process. Those steps are important to get to the place where there is no public trust at all. Thank you. Next caller. Hello. I applaud supervisor mar for bringing this ballot measure forward. A public advocate is an official official to make sure you are getting a fair share treatment from your local government. We dont have one in san San Francisco. New york has a public advocate that saved the city millions of dollars by cutting waste. That is money to be put to good use for Affordable Housing, tackling homelessness or increasing Public Safety in our neighborhoods. Please move this forward. We need the public advocate. Thank you. Next caller. Hello. I am calling in support of public advocate office. I am a resident of hillary ronens district. I want to point out according to the legislation you put forward public advocate shall have staff according to the budget provisions of the charter. This is a great opportunity to defund the sfpd and create new positions like 1021 to represent. I hope that you establish the office of public advocate. If you wonder where to get the money to create a new office. 300 million laying around in the San Francisco Police Department. Thanthank you for sponsoring th. Next caller. Hi, i am a resident of district 9 calling to support the abolishment of this and requiring the 2000 officers th that. [ inaudible ] i am disturbed that no money has gone to the minimum staffing. I just want to echo the sentiments that have been already spoke. I will make it clear that i support cutting the staffing minimum. Thank you. Next speaker. Good afternoon, supervisors. I am a San Francisco native and i have lived here for over 23 years. I am calling in support of the Charter Amendment to eliminate the s. F. P. D. Minimum staffing requirement. That is the wrong item. We are on item 4, public advocate. If you are on the line to speak on anything except for item 4, press star 3 to lower your hand and press it later to raise your hand. Only Public Comment on item 4 Charter Amendment public advocate. Next speaker, please. Madam chair, that completes the queue. Public comment has concluded at this time. I will close Public Comment. I appreciate supervisor mar not only for all of your work on this incredible ordinance but also i do think it makes sense to remove the lawyer requirement. I do think there are certain skills and training that would be helpful that lawyers have to be a strong public advocate, but they are not exclusive and they are skills that other types of people have that are as compelling and helpful to this type of work. That makes a lot of sense to me, this amendment. We want to get the best pool of candidates for this position that have the range of skills. I appreciate your extra skills, supervisor mars and i support that amendment. Witwithwith that i can make a mo amend based on this. If we can have a roll call on this amendment we can take that now. The motion to amend the proposed Charter Amendment. Supervisor stefani. Aye. Supervisor mar. Aye. Chair ronen. Aye. The motion passes. Happy to make a motion to continue to the july 13th Committee Meeting for rules. Continue as amended to july 13th meeting of the rules committee. Supervisor stefani. Aye. Supervisor mar. Aye. Chair ronen. Aye. The motion passes without objection. Thank you. I believe supervisor walton is with us. Are you still with us, supervisor walton . I am. I will ask to call another item out of order as amendments are made for item 5 and finalized. If you could call item 6 out of order. To a the charter to create the Sheriffs Department Oversight Board to advise and report findings and recommendations to the sheriff and the board of supervisors regarding Sheriffs Department operations to create the Sheriffs Office of Inspector General under the direction of the Inspector General to investigate complaints of noncriminal misconduct by employees and contractors of the Sheriffs Department and in custody deaths, develop policy recommendations for the Sheriffs Department and report quarterly its findings, results and recommendations to the sheriff and Oversight Board at an election to be held on november 3, 2020. Good afternoon. Supervisor walton. Thank you, colleagues. I will not be labor my point today. I want to say if you remember last week on monday 6 29. We heard from the sheriff, public defender, District Attorney and myself about the importance of the sheriff Department Oversight for investigations of allegations of misconduct. We had to wait a week because we introduced a couple amendments and i appreciate the committees attention to changes. After meeting with union, sheriff and Community Members i am happy to submit this final legislation with two minor changes that came from working with the mayor and City Attorneys office. It will give the mayor or board of supervisors three appointments and the board of supervisors will appoint it as requested to meet and confer. We have opposition from msa union. They requested we change this to use the same process as the d. P. A. This oversight needs to be stronger and independent from the Police Department. We have a letter from the department of Human Resources to msa validating we acted in good faith and dha rejects. The Deputy Sheriffs Association has participated in this as well as the sheriff who we will continue to work with as we move forward. Last night after Public Comment the message from the community is very clear. Law enforcement transparency and accountability is a must and this ismenmeant to give communia path. Our final changes are on page 1, line 15 changing section 15. 505 to section 15. 105 and on page 1 line 24 on page 2 line 2 changing four to three appointments for the board of supervisors to support appointments from the mayor office. This is in line with most of our Commission Appointments and how we operate here in the city. That said i want to thank you and ask you accept those minor changes so we can move this. Is there any questions on are comments from members of the committee . Can we please open this up for Public Comment. Yes. Members of the public who wish to comment on this item call 408 4189388. Meeting id1465397752. If you havent already done so dial star three to line up to speak. Wait until the system waits you are unmuted and you may begin comments. We are accepting Public Comment on item number 6, the Charter Amendment sheriffs Oversight Board and Inspector General. Do we have any members of the public to speak . [ inaudible ] go ahead. I think you are missing the message from last night. It was not that we want a basically the sheriff. We sure as hell dont want three positions for the mayor and four for the supervisor. We want to defund Law Enforcement and reestablish new Public Safety bodies. This is again for reform. It is fine to give us more data how sheriffs are failing us. We are asking for reallocation. I do not mean radicals. We are mobilizing first time callers, moms, teachers who want to see real change. This measure is fine. Not three members of the board of supervisors. Stop moving us to the back of the line. We have jobs. I am at my job waiting for this. So are many working class people. Stop moving the agenda. Thank you so much, supervisors. I yield my time. Can we have next caller, please. Hi, this is jordan davis, district 6 resident. I was prepared to support this, but i really dont think it should be 4 mayor, 3 board of supervisors. Just one person in that case can really tip the balance and prevent reform. We see it on the Police Commission and Planning Commission and every other commission as well. This amendment i am going to say it is bull shit. On the underlying issue we need to reduce the scope, call me it is corrupt. The whole Sheriffs Office is a shit show on important issues. The whole jail itself is a death trap. We need to move towards abolition. Please deny this amendment. Thanks. I yield my time. Next calmler, please. Hello. Thank you, supervisors. I it is on the Commission Speaking on my personal time i am on district 5. A couple points. I support this. I want to echo the comments of the last speaker around some concerns about how adding commissions and departments and general oversight is not going to lead to change. I do think given the Sheriffs Office, the position of sheriff is one that is elected, it is the people who can run for it are relatively restricted. Given the number of incidents over the past few years of abuse of force by the Sheriffs Department and mismanagement of the jails, i think having the commission that the sheriff has to report back to your time is up. Thank you. Can we have next caller, please. Hi. I appreciate this update and appreciate supervisor walton acknowledging the public wants more transparency, but telling us that line 15021 changed or that is not helpful. This update. I have no idea what has been changed. I have no idea what is in this amendment, and i dont know the text. I have no idea. All i know is that something is changed. If you could tell us the substance of what is changed or provide us where we can find it that is greatly appreciated. As of right now, i dont feel like this is real transparency. This is just saying something is changing. That is not very helpful. Thank you. Members of the public on the line and wish to speak should dial star three to be added to the queue. Wwe currently have five members of the public in line to speak. Next caller, please. Yes, hi. I would like to echo what a couple of other people said. Sure the public is telling you we would like more the Law Enforcement is god. You have got that. The things we want is no jails, no sheriff, no nothing. Adding more budget and committees for oversight is like only acceptable as a temporary measure and not very acceptable to be entirely appointed by the mayor who has actively seemed against abolition. We dont want more prisons, we dont want the Sheriffs Department to have more power and more entrenched nature with the government body. This measure is really like a kabad bandaid. Next caller, please. Ed to. Todd snider distric. I support the Inspector General for the sheriff. I hope it would be independent body and not subject to the whims of the mayor and empowered to investigate wrongdoing in the Sheriffs Department and have its own budget. If it is window dressing without power, then it doesnt henry heo restore confidence and trust from the public. Thank you. I yield my time. Next caller, please. Hello. I have long attended the Police Commission meetings. There is a problem letting the mayor appoint 4 to 3. She is one person and the board is 11. They should somewhere more power. We are trying to get rid of Sheriffs Departments across the country because they have continued to show abuse of our people. If this wants to be a tempourrary board for transition appointed by the board of supervisors or even appointments from community organizations, also, the one thing we need to work on is getting tasers out of the hands of sheriffs. They use them in secret, in the jails when nobody can see what they are doing. The United Nations declared it a weapon of torture. We are giving the mayor more power again. The last two nominations your time is up. Next caller, please. Hello. I would like to go with what the last caller said. If this is transitional appointment, sure. Also, why does the mayor have so many appointments versus the supervisors. I cant agree more. That seems unfair. I am a resident of district 11. I work at sf state. I voted for shamon. I dont feel like you are reflecting what the people are asking for last night, the total abolishment and removal of sheriffs and the police. We need to work towards eliminating their presence and this doesnt do that. I have to disagree with the entire thing. Thank you. Next caller, please. I would like to say it is obviously ridiculous to say what people are asking for. Talking about that before you apply this to other bodies understand why they failed so badly. Why it hasnt helped prevent reform he overred the recommendations on pending officers. Why the Sunshine Task force violated the brown act. [ inaudible ] this is item 6 regarding the Sheriffs Department Oversight Board and Inspector General. Please limit your comments to item 6. Next caller, please. Hi. I am Kayla Williams on behalf of the acting cochair of the socialist caucus. I appreciate the sentiment to bring this forward. I want to echo the big concerns of the previous speakers. When you look at the Police Commission currently there are so many spots to be appointed by the mayor. We have seen that the mayor is not appointing folks on behalf of the will of her constituents and residents of San Francisco. When you look at the fact there are four positions available to be appointed versus three. That is concern. Off topic we are not standing for we dont want reform. We want change. Thank you. I yield my time. Next speaker, please. Hi. I am living in district 10. Aside from how this is confusing, not very transparent. Obviously, thank you for the sentiment. I appreciate that. 200 people waited 7 hours yesterday to voice they wanted to police defunded, disarmed and disbanded. They used statistics showing reforms have never worked in the past. It would just be ridiculous to trust that reforms would work. This is appreciated. When so many people asked for the defunding of the police and shared their concerns reforms have never worked in the past, it is just a little bit disappointing that this is where we are at right now. The sentiment is appreciated. We dont want reform. Thank you. I yield my time. Thank you. Next speaker, please. I live in district 5. Police abolition you can not fix problems. We need to abolish police and build Public Safety in society. Not good money after bad. This must be Harm Reduction on the path toward abolition. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. I live in district 3. I want to echo everyone else to say while this is appreciated. This feels like a slap in the face. People waited for hours and hours yesterday. We are citizens. We have work and jobs. We took time to call in and tell you what we want. We want abolish meant. This is falling short. We appreciate the sentiment. Reforming is not the answer. We have stated the facts and told you reform is not the answer. Not what the citizens want to see. Thank you. I yield my time. Members of the public on the line to speak dial star 3 to be added to thadded to speak. We are on item 6 the Charter Amendment regarding the Sheriffs Department Oversight Board and Inspector General. We currently have three members of the public in the queue to speak. Next caller, please. Hi. I wanted to say that putting together yet another Oversight Committee that probably wont be hold anyone accountable sounds like a big waste of money. Thanks. Have a good afternoon. Next speaker. I dont understand why i was cut off by the clerk. I was making a point why applying the Police Commission model to the Sheriff Department is not working. The clerk can you tell me off. That is what i was saying. The clerk is overzealous if i am shut off specifically to item 6. That is all. Next speaker, please. Hello, i am from district 11. I want to reiterate that i would like to say the sentiment is not appreciated. Reform does not work. This is an example every form. We ask to abolish police and Sheriff Department. We dont want more money going toward the sheriff. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. I agree with the previous caller. I am not appreciating the sentiment. I am resident of district 7, resident of San Francisco many years. I waited hours and hours yesterday. I dont think you are listening. Yesterday we had hours of Public Comments telling you to defund the s. F. P. D. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello i am a resident of district 1. Civilian employee for the Sheriffs Department for a year. I dont think this is needed. The sheriff has an independent investigators. Also, i understand the Police Accountability who oversee the police can oversee the sheriff. This is just another waste and wasting city money. This money could be better used for Community Events and i think the sheriff does a good job. They do a lot of good work in the community when i worked for them and try to help the residents. I would rather see the money go to the sheriffs Outreach Program than for this Oversight Committee that doesnt need to be. Thank you. Thank you. Next caller. Hi this is the bay area where people understand facts and statistics and data. One of the most educated part ofs of the world. You are putting an Oversight Committee when 200 people told you we have looked at the numbers. Reform doesnt work. It is time to look for a new job, chief. Thanks. Next caller, please. I would like to echo what the previous callers have been speaking on. District 11. Too little too late. If this was 15 years ago, maybe. At this point, no. We demand abolition of the sheriff and the Police Department and if in the interim there is an oversight body independent of the mayor and board of supervisors under community control. Get out of here with the garbage. Get with the people or get out of our way. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. I am zane, district 7. I do not support this proposal. Like other speakers have said, it does too little, waste of money. What we really want is police and Sheriff Department and prison abolition. I yield my time. Thank you. Next speaker. I would like to repeat the te sentiment this does not go far enough. They are calling for abolition, we want complete abolition. The callers last night were testament to that and i am sure we will hear about that in the near future today. I yield my time. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. I am aaron in district 5. I agree with the previous callers who have been rehashing the sentiment we want to abolish the police. This Oversight Committee is too late, ridiculous. There are so many people on the line demanding one thing. [please stand by] i called last night and i spoke last night and San Francisco, we are not possessive because were having this conversation about whether or not we should spend more money on something thats already not working. We cant fix this. We need to take it away and it is abolition and try for the Police Department to be gone and the mayor is not going to help us in this. Clearly none of you all are. Supervisors, are you hearing this . Thank you. Next speaker. Question i want to reiterate that everybody is saying. I will repeat what i waited eight hours to say yesterday. It is ridiculous that sfpd should get any money when theyre facing i would like to state that we are not hearing the matter regarding sfpd. We are hearing item number 6 related to the Sheriffs Department Oversight Board and Inspector General. May we have the next speaker, please. Question the Sheriffs Department do a great job and they want no rule of law. They dont want anybody to touch that subject. They want complete control and they want to stay in your houses. Theyre threatening the members of the board. Defend the Sheriffs Department. They do a great job. They are overseen by the accountability unit thats a strict unit. Thank you. Thank you. May we have the next speaker. Next speaker, please. Operator madam chair, that completes the queue. Are there any more speakers . Next speaker, please. Question. Question every time the public speaks, we cant see the supervisors in front of us and thats just not ok. We want to see them and know theyre there and we need to know its a quorum. Its not ok we disappear every time we speak. Its just disrespectful. Please change it immediately. Thank you. Thank you. May we have the next speaker. Question we are asking for things that will work because clearly policing and sheriffing is not working. They have tasers and guns and they use them with impunity. This is not acceptable. Please do not accept this amendment for oversight. Please abolish any funding that we provide for the sheriff. Thank you. Next speaker. Question this is martha and im a longterm resident of San Francisco and i would like to say that i really would like you guys to disband the police and really move the funding to other places. We have a huge budget in San Francisco. This is not regarding the Police Department. This is regarding the Sheriffs Department Oversight Board and Inspector General. If you would like to speak on the Police Department, well be hearing that later in the meeting. Thank you very much. May we have the next speak. Speaker. Question im in district 5 and i want to say, first of all, its not ok for you to cut people off when theyre trimmed down to one minute and by Police Department, we mean sfpd and the Police Department and i think this whole measure is laughable and a complete and utter insult to the constituents when we spent hours yesterday talking about what we wanted. Question there is an Oversight Committee and all of the people that have been on this call, telling you what we need which is to not keep giving funds to these racist police and sheriffs. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Question hi, im just calling in to say youve got to stop cutting people off for equating the sheriff and the Police Department. Sure, yes, technically theyre different departments but they both do policing. A lot of us arent professionals. Were volunteering our time to tell you all to abolish the fucking police and stop cutting people off. They do policing activity. I yield my time in line item 3. Thank you, next speaker, please. Madam chair, that completes the cue. Ill close Public Comment and supervisor walton, do you have any comments . , i do, thani do, and i wantk everyone for their Public Comment. I truly understand the frustration and we are working overtime to really change Law Enforcement. I do want to be clear what this is, because this actual meeting today was a clarification for a couple of things and when someone asks about the changes from section 15. 505 to section 15. 105, which is just a typicald clerical code. This Charter Amendment will set up a Sheriffs Department Oversight Board and a Sheriffs Department office of Inspector General. What we dont want is to continue to let the Sheriffs Department conduct their own investigation. Right now, we basically have a situation where the fox is guarding the hen house. We have a way to change that through this reform right now. I understand we want reforms and abolish and that may be something that we will possibly get to, but that wont be happening right now. And without this Charter Amendment, we will continue to give the Sheriffs Department 100 power to police itself. Im not willing to do that and we need this Charter Amendment for that change. There is more to come. As you know, we are working hard to close down the county jail, 850 and we are working hard to close Juvenile Hall and there are so many major reforms that we have been continuing to push on, on this board of supervisors. But make no mistake, if we do not put this Charter Amendment on the ballot, the sheriff will continue to conduct their own investigation. There are things we. Want to implement in in policy. Thank you so much to the committee and public who i really understand your frustration. I appreciate the work you put into this and i know you started with our former public defender who is in the jails on a daily base and has helped unearth some of the abuses like the gladiator abuse that is there. When someone is incar incarcera, their ability to address grievances are so limited. They dont have their freedom and the access to the media and the outdoors and all of the tools that we use to protest injustice, just like the callers are using this meeting to protest the injustice they see in society. So until we outlaw incarceration, it is the Sheriffs Department that staff oversee our jails. Weve been working for a long time to decarerate San Francisco. We are in the process of shutting down Juvenile Hall, the board before us rejected a grant from the State Government to build a new jail. We dont want new jails. We want to dismantle those that exist and we are on that involved and taking leadership in that process. But that is not something that will happen overnight. And so, in the meantime, i think that this is an incredibly important initiative, having that visiti civilian oversightr how they manage the removal of peoples liberty when they are iin jail. To me, its very important and having said that, i cannot support the amendment you put forward today. One of the reasons im excited about this measure is because, there is a majority board of supervisor appointment and i have found that many of the commissions, one of the reasons they have not been more effective is because they rubberstamp what the mayor wants and im not talking about mayor breed. Im talking about every mayor that has ever been. When theres an mayoral majority on an oversight body, it tends to be much less effective and when appointments are, you know, more beholden or accountable to 11disparate sou supervisors, thy tend to be much more independent thinking and to play a much more stronger, regulatory role. Supervisor walton, as much as i respect you, i hope it doesnt pass and im hoping we can take the two amendments separately. The one that is the clerical amendment and, of cours, but i e to support the change of appointments to the Oversight Board. Do any of my other colleagues have questions or comments . I support the proposal to the oversight of the Sheriffs Department and, yeah, i guess i am in agreement with supervisor ronen, that i would prefer to keep the original proposal around the placements to the oversight commission. Why dont i make a motion to introduce the First Amendment sorry, supervisor walton. Just real quick, if theres no amendment on the table and we just go i can remove that as an amendment, so you dont even have to vote on it. Ok. And address the changing 15. 505 to 15. 105. I appreciate that. Thank you. Madam chair, i believe the sheriff may want to say a few words. Ok. As a part of the process and being responsible for the very agency that were about to apply this oversight to, i wanted to acknowledge that we have done something very collaboratively in terms of working with supervisor walton and working with the vision he had. When we spoke about this last year, before i was sitting in this seat, i understood this was an interest and intention of this to echo the concerns of the community as it relates to oversight of the Sheriffs Offices creation of an Advisory Board and Inspector General. As i agree that we have to have that responsibility, we have to make sure that theres an establishment of oversight legislatively and we have to do this in a fiscally responsible manner and to make sure this works and to make sure the accountant, we havaccount abili. Accountability. I want to make sure thats our intent to make sure this was done in a responsible manner. I apologize for jumping in at the last minute is wanted to make sure that was clear because we are at the end of the day elected officials and answer to the entire community. Thank you. So with that, so were perfectly clear, supervisor walton, can you name the amendment well be voting on . Thank you so much and i do want clarity to the City Attorney, this is substantial, regardless because this is a Charter Amendment and we will have to continue, but page one, line 15, changing section 15. 505 to section 15. 105. To the attorney and person. That is right, supervisor walton, any change requires a continuance to the next meeting of rules which is next monday. Yes, thank you. So mr. Clerk, can you please take a role call, a vote on the amendment. On the motion to amend role call . The motion passes without objection. And ill continue this to the july 13th rules Committee Meeting. Motion to continue this matter as amended to the july 13 regulation rules Committee Meeting role call . The matter passes and motion will be continued to the july 13th meeting of the rules committee. Thank you, supervisor walton. Were now going to get to the longawaited item number 3. We still have item 5 on the anticipated. Supervisor hainey is still work on amendments and well take 3 now. This is quite a meeting. [ laughter ] doing the best we can here. Hello, president yee. Thank you for joining us. Im number 3 is a Charter Amendment to amend the chatter to require the Police Department to submit a report and recommendation regarding Police Staffing levels to the Police Commission every two years and require the Police Commission to consider the report and recommendation when approving the departments proposed budget and election to be held on november 3rd, 2020. Thank you so much and welcome, president yee. This is your item, so if you would like to make opening remarks. Sure, thank you so much, chair ronen. And i know were spending a lot of time together. [ laughter ] and thanks to everyone for attending this hearing today. And thank you to the cosponsors of this Charter Amendment, supervisors ronen, peskin, fewer and walton and i would like to thank and recognise the Community Members and stakeholders who have reached out to support this effort and work hard to bring us to this point. I want to start off by acknowledging that we are at a Pivotal Moment in our city and in our country when it comes to the role of Law Enforcement in our communities. Communities are calling on us to change our course and hold accountable the systems that allow the perpetual oppression and continual act of violence against the black and brown communities. We must commit ourselves to real and tangible ways to region Public Safety and prioritize investments that keep all of our communities safe. In this moment, confronted with the failures and inequities of the criminal justice system, we must be unwavering in our commitment to implement Law Enforcement reforms, increase transparency and have everyone borsworn to protect our communities. We must make sure it reflects or commitments to the safety of everyone in the city. We need Public Safetys services that truly reflect and immediate the needs of our diverse communities. Ive been working to improve the citys process for setting Police Staffing levels for over five years and i first began to engage on this issue in response to the divisive conversations that the board about Police Staffing levels and the lack of comprehensive data to support decisions. In an effort to take the politics out of the equation, five years ago, i began working with the Police Commissioner, president , julia terman, to develop a strategy and together we work to establish a strategic Police Staffing task force, to develop an independent analysis of appropriate Police Staffing levels. Under the leadership of the Police Commission, the task force include a crosssection of experts, data analysts and Community Stakeholders includes the u. S. Department of justice, the office of community or Police Services and the San Francisco Police Departments command staff, the city controller, the department of Police Accountability, the office of citizens complaint, the Sheriffs Office and the department of emergency management. Over the course of the past two years, the commission put together the task force, hiring a consultant to do a report, staffing analysis of the department and develop a preliminary report. The process laid out the Charter Amendment for determining Staffing Levels as a result of this collaborative effort. And to briefly summarize the Charter Amendment, if placed on the november 2000 ballot for people to vote on, it would probably do two things. First, it would establish a regular process for determining reStaffing Levels in our city. The process would require the Police Department to submit an assessment of the overall staffing and workload to the Police Commission every two years. The Police Commission would consider this report and make a recommendation to the mayor and to the board of supervisors on the department Staffing Levels, where its review of the departments proposed budget. The report would include an indepth analysis of the departments workload, Service Objectives and legal duties. The second thing that it really does is it provides an amendment. This amendment would allow the city the ability to make decisions informed by the comprehensive staffing analysis and remove the requirement that sets an arbitrary minimum Police Staffing level now at 1,971, fullduty sworn officers. I think its important to spend a moment reviewing the history of the minimum staffing level so that we can all be clear about where the number comes from. 25 years ago, voters approved prop d and set a minimum staffing respiratory of 1,971, fullduty sworn Police Officers. 25 years thissu this number y on today was never based on the departments workload, but first appear as part of a Settlement Agreement for a discrimination Class Action Lawsuit in 1979. As a part of the Settlement Agreement, the city entered into an agreement with the department of justice that requires the city increase the sworn staffing to 1,971 and maintain that level of city level of staffing for three years to allow for more promotional opportunities for women and black latin x and api staff. This staffing level of 1971 had the department in the time in 1979. That staffing number reflected the demands of black latin x in order to transport our Police Department at the time. I also want to be clear that when you talk about Police Staffing levels, we arent talking about just numbers. That is far from the sole focus in the department. For example, staffing decisions impact which members have more officers than others and how quickly police are able to respond to emergency calls in different neighborhoods. Staffing decisions impact how well Police Officers know and understand our communities. Staffing impacts how successful Police Services are to our immigrant communities and Community Members with limited english proficiency. This department is tasked with a single goal to ensure the safety of our communities, accountability, transparency and investment in improving Public Safety services to ensure that all are safer. Simply having a minimum staffing number does not accomplish this goal. I wont be introducing amendments today. My office has shared these amendments with all of the members of the committee. The amendments are one, adding language to set regular process for determining the methodology with the Police Staffing report. Two, removing the 19931994 staffing number for Neighborhood Community policing patrol and investigation. And number three, adding a requirement that reports on the impacts of civilianation, civilians should solicit police into the chief of police and controller. And weve added that report weve also added that report should impact the delivery of the Public Safety services and services to protect the public in the event of an emergency. In placing the current requirement to consider only the delivery of Police Services or the ability of the Police Department to respond in the event of an emergency. This change reflects the importance of considerate impacts of civilization on Police Safety im sorry, on Public Safety more broadly and reflects the importance of coordinated responsive efforts to protect the public in a case of an emergency. I would like to thank the assistant chief and commissioner for being with us today. Colleagues, i hope you will support placing this on the November Ballot to allow voters to weigh in on this important issue. So thats also thats all i havd if theres any questions from my colleagues, i will entertain that. Thank you, president yee. I dont have any questions, but i do have a comment just to say, first of all, thank you, thank you for having the foresight of doing this Charter Amendment and you started this amendment before the George Floyd Killing and before the community has been outraged and mobilized and organized to come out and say, we need drastic change. If you hadnt put this Charter Amendment on the ballot, we would be stuck with this random number of 1,971 Police Officers that would really hamper our ability to think creatively and with a new vision for what it could be what we could do and what kind of structures that we can create to keep our Community Safe and avoid some of the tragedies and the violence that have happened throughout history from the Police Department. This gives us the chance and the leeway to think outside the box and to bring all of our collectives when i say collective, not just board of supervisors and not just Police Departments and Police Commission, but the hundreds and hundreds of voices that are calling in to speak on these items before the board of supervisors and there is a movement that is underway in this country, to radically change the way that we police our citizens and this Charter Amendment is going to give us an opening to do that visionary and imaginary work, to, you know, defund and region what a just and safe Public Safety system could look like in this country. So im, for one, extremely excited about this. And proud to be a cosponsor and very much appreciate them. I know we have both commander mosir here and commander, are you actually a chief now . Youre a chief now, arent you . I am, supervisor, thank you. Thank you. Chief, who is one of my favourite captains of all time of the Mission Police station. So ive been watching you rise up the rankse ranks, but i coult remember. Before hearing from the Police Commissioner, i wanted to give an opportunity to supervisors mar and stephanie if they wanted to make comments before we go to Public Comment. Ill wait for to share my remarks after chief moser and the commission, please. Ok. And supervisor stephanie. Same. In the interest of time, i will wait to comment, thank you. Thank you so much. Police commissioner hamasaki. Thank you, chair ronen. Supervisors mar, stephanie and president yee, for bringing this amendment along with your cosponsors, supervisors ronen, peskin, fewer and walton. Ive been on the Police Commission two years and this was a project that was ongoing and deep in the trenches by the time i joined. Supervisor yee was in many ways the preessence of the current moment in recognising that were not always going to know exactly the precise number. I dont think i can add much more except from my perspective as a commissioner. You know, were in a really important moment that i think everybody here has recognised and the public has spoken and weve all had very light nights recently and we have to recognise this moment. On the police excision departmed this with the support of chief scott, started a discussion of reallocating resources for homeless response and that discuss involves the killing of george floyd, Breonna Taylor and others into other responses that historically, we learned theres appropriate professionals to respond. The police are excellently and welltrained to respond to certain types of situations, crisis, violent crimes, but there are other professionals that can step in. So, you know, this is a really important measure and it has taken five years to get to this point. This is not a radical defund the police measure. This is a thoughtful, studied, measure that will work out over years of research, datadriven analysis and hard work and input from the community. They really listened to all of the community and the stakeholders throughout this process and followed the research and came to this amendment. So im honored to be here and to support this. I hope the voters will support this in november. This is really the right measure at the perfect moment. Thank you. Were all grateful to be here. Thank you, im sorry to cut you off. So chief, if you have any comments, if you would keep it short, i would appreciate it. I have a few comments on behalf of chief scott. First of all, we would like to thank president yee and the rules committee for providing us with the opportunity to collaborate in the Charter Amendment and the proposed Charter Amendment will remove the 1971 staff number and man katemandates a twoyear number r budgetary staff proposals. The department did provide several recommendations and suggestion changes that we felt better served the purpose of establishing Staffing Levels that were not included in the final draft of the legislation. Our main concerns were the requirement to provide a report every two years to the Police Commission on the current number of full duties sworn to the twoyear fiscal cycle on the twoyear cycle. And our second concern was the methodology that was going to be used for this reporting. The sfpd is ready to able to fulfill any requirements as written if enacted. Thank you. Thank you so much. We will now open up this item to Public Comment. Each member will have one minute to speak. At this time, we have 101 people on the line with 57 in line to speak. Members of the public who wish to provide Public Comment should call 4084189388 at this time and the meeting i. D. Is 146 5397752. Dial star 3 and the system will indicate you have raised your hand and you may begin your comment. Before we hear from the first caller, if you wouldnt mind giving us periodic updates of how many people are on the line. Not a problem. There are currently 70 people lined up to speak at this time. Im katie green calling back in again, calling to support the minimum staffing requirements and just generally, moving toward defunding the sfpd and social work and i am in the bay area. And i think that its clear more police does not increase the safety of the community. I think anything that moves for defunding the police as we talked about yesterday and i think that includes minimum staffing requirements. The time is now and thank you to supervisor ronen for managing. Im from district 7 and i fully support president yees proposal and i dont think that police are effective. I never felt safe around a Police Officer and i cant imagine what its like for people who are black, brown, indigenous and or poor. I would really i think this is a great step in the eventual abolishment of police. We can use that money for much better things, including social programs, which are shown to decrease crime. Thank you for bringing forth this amendment, supervisors and its time to take away the power of the sfpd. Next speaker, please. Im calling to eliminate the sfpd staffing requirement and that it be removed from the city charter. We do not need to maximum highse policing when it traumatizes the most vulnerable person. We need to abolish the police. You should make the one that does not contribute to the loss of more black peoples lives and truly listen to the people you are representing rather than the trauma and oppression. Support the Charter Amendment and get rid of the arbitrary staffing to prevent this from investing in real Public Safety. Thank you. Thank you. May we have the next speaker, please. Defunding the police is not a radical idea and hes, right, the police are good at their job because their job is to harass and murder black Community Members but i digress. Im calling to eliminate the sfpd minimum staffing respiratories anstaffstaffingre. Policing brings violence and injustice and traumatizes the most vulnerable. We dont need maximum Police Presence and much of the work the sfpd does can be performed by the organizations. The coffers go to upholding the staffing requirement for the officers and the less money we can spend on communitylead infrastructure that will actually keep us all safe. Im calling to eliminate the sfpd minimum staff requirement and i demand you remove any language regarding increased Police Presence in the community and city charter. We want to minimize Police Presence and defund and disband the sfpd. Police do not keep us safe. They harm our communities as shown by the fact theyve killed over 100 people since 1985. Its time to take power away from the Police Association and put it back in the hands of the people. You can uphold the Prison Industrial Complex and devastating impact of the black community or you can do your job as an elected representatives and file a call for a new path for San Francisco. Im monica and i live in sanfrancisco in district 5. I support the Charter Amendment to remove the minimum Police Staffing requirement. We need to be more creative. I listened to the sfpds Budget Hearing yesterday and witnessed over 200 people calling in and waiting over five hours to share their demand in redirecting the Police Budget. What a powerful unified call to redirect our funds into the resources that our communities need. This cannot be done if there is a minimum staffing level based off of an archaic charter that no longer serves the needs of San Francisco. Keeping a minimum staffing requirement for reform is an inadequate justification. The progress reports for the collaborative reform reported that the progress is twofold and the failure to implement a greater number of recommendations is delaying the fulfillment of the promise. I am calling in support of the chatter amendment to eliminate the sftd staffing requirements. Police presence harms the black community. Black people make up just 5 of San Francisco population and 40 of People Killed by police. As a rule, i do not call the police when i see issues in my community because i am unwilling to contribute to the statistics and subject members of marginalized communities to abuse and murder at the hand of the police. S of the police. Please support the Charter Amendment and get rid of this arbitrary staffing rule. Next caller, please. Bring on the battalion of social wokers, i say. We know how long a legislative meeting take. Keep it up, keep going, go further. You have a choice and you can do this. Make the city proud. Lets do that. We can do better. We have bigger imaginations. Next speaker, please. Im Lauren Church and i work and live in district 3. All over the city, the same people that you work for have spoken and the people of San Francisco have made it clear that Police Presence does not lead to Public Safety. Police dont keep us safe. They harm our communities. We dont need maximum Police Presence and much of the work that the sfpd does can be performed better by nonsfpd organizations. Im calling in support to eliminate the sfpd minimum staffing requirements. Further, i demand you remove any language in the city the chart charter. The number of officers in our city should not be dictated by a number picked by a group of people 16 years ago. It is time to heed the cause of the community to defund the police and invest in the black community and other communities of colour. We ask you move from the city charter any language requiring maximmaximum security. Next speaker, please. Im peter and i live in district 5 and i support this proposal. I want to emphasize that the Consent Decree that the 1,971 number was lifted in 1998 and no longer applies. The until owe do not need an ary minimum number of cops. How we run or society should be the product of consideration and subject to reconsideration. Weve doubled the Police Budget accounting for inflation since 1998 and we need to reallocate and repeal this charter in order to do that. Lastly, please remove from the charter the passage of maximizing Police Presence in the community. Lets get started for a full and bolus. And bow ligs. Abolition. The meeting idea is 146359772 and if you havent done so, dial star 3 to line up to speak. At this time, we have 82 member of the public waiting to speak. Next caller, please. Im calling in support of the Charter Amendment to eliminate the sfpd minimum staffing requirement. Removing the requirement is the first step in healing for communities that have been the most started by policing, imprisonment and other institutionainstitutions. Im a resident of district 6 and, of course, like everybody else, i would like the police to be defunded and of abolished. The fact you mentioned you drafted all of the kerfuffle about getting rid of the police means that you should take the heat of this moment to make it do stuff and you say that, like, with this more reports and well be able to do more it should go further, thank you for doing this thing, i suppose, but maximizing Police Presence is not the same. This charter in and of itself, not saying there should be minimum staffing. Can we have the next caller. I would like to directly address the comment by Police Commissioner ham ar masaki thiss not a radical abolition thing. I trust all officials to look into the decades of Research Behind abolition, the concept and the policies are not new and if they seem strange, at first, if it seems strange to ask for the police to be abolished, i hope youll take the time to look into the decades of work that have been done as to the effectiveness. Thank you. Thank you. Next caller, please. Im eliminating the sfpd staffing requirements and i ask you remove this in the city charter. You could support the urban parks, a principle that most know through the schools that you could be funding and many could be housed and i invite you to use these words when youre considering what to do with the charter and specifically for this amendment, leave it better than you found it. Theres a lot of work to be doing, but i think this is a good first step, but lets consider what more can happen once we get the minimum off the charter. Thank you to the supervisors who brought forth this amendment and really appreciate youre listening to your constituents. President yee, im grateful for your work, especially having the foresight. Speaker time has elapsed. Thank you. Can we have the next speaker, please. Im marie and im a d5 resident and voter and calling to eliminate minimum staffing and to remove the language about maximizing Police Presence in the community. I have to say, its kind of demoralizing to hear our elected officials bending over backwards to avoid uttering the phrase defund sfpd. Ive heard a lot of euphemisms and i think its perverse and disingenuous to say weve heard the voice of the people but not say the words defund sfpd, abolish, we dont want deeper reforms, supervisor walton. We want defunding and abolition. So please, please get that through your heads. You are the elected representatives of what is supposed to be the most progressive city in the world. You should act like it. Thank you. Thank you. Can we have the next caller, please. Good afternoon, supervisors. My name is julia farris. Im calling from district 9, where i live and thank you for bringing fort this amendment and, especially to president yee, for the four sight and fo d working on this. Im looking to eliminate the staffing requirement and support the removal of maximizing Police Presence. That is the shock to learn that is in our city charter and i dont think that should be our priority. I think that we should not be beholden to an out of date number and i would rather we invest in communitylead infrastructure keeping us safe and i think this is an important first step and i look forward to seeing it on my ballot in november and i think its only the first step and support a regioning of Public Safety without police in San Francisco. Thank you for the opportunity to comment. Thank you. Next caller, please. Good evening, supervisors. Im shavan. Im a San Francisco homeowner and live in district 4 and a transwoman and an attorney. I would not feel comfortable calling the police for any reason. Yet my tax dollars may their salaries. The people have spoken. Im calling support on this Charter Amendment to eliminate the staffing requirement and further, i demand you remove any language regarding maximizing Police Presence in the community in the city charter. Removing the minimum staffing respiratory is the first stewe. The sfpd can be performed by sfpd organizations. Thank you. Just like to note we have 106 callers with 73 of them queued up to speak. Can we have the next caller, please. Good evening, supervisors. Im tory larson and im an attorney with the Lawyers Committee for civil rights of the San Francisco bay area. People in San Francisco have made it clear that defunding and disbanding the police was the future of our city. Removing the minimum staffing requirement is a concrete step the board of supervisors can take to disbanding the police an. This supports to eliminate te sffd staffing requirement and asks that the city actively work to reduce Police Presence in our community. Thank you. Further, i demand you remove any language maximizing Police Presence in the community in the charter. This year, the sfpd trainer said the degree of antiblack sentiment for sfpd is extreme. Its a significant threat to communities of colour and we thank supervisors who brought forth this amendment and important to take the power of staffing away from the poa and put it back in the hand os of te peoples representatives. You can do your jobs as letted representatives and follow the calls for a new path for San Francisco. Support the Charter Amendment and get rid of any Staffing Levels that have us preventing in Public Safety. Next speaker. Hello, supervisors. Im a d9 resident. The number of Police Deaths will always be above zero. You cant reform violence out of policing. No amount of oversight will change that. This is what defined the police. That is a historical fact. Supervisors, you have a brilliant opportunity here. Theres political momentum and public will and if you dont take advantage of this moment, i want you to have enough character to admit at least to yourself that something from protecting the people and any future violence will be blood on your hands. You have the power to abolish an entity whose primary purpose will be white supremacy. Thank you. Speaker time has elapsed. I demand you remove language maximizing Police Presence. Police dont keep us safe and harp ouharmour communities. Pai. indiscernible . Black power to the people and i yield my time. Next speaker, please. I demand you remove any language regarding maximizing Police Presence in the community. The first step in healing for communities that have been targeted by imprisonment, including black, indigenous and people of colour, trans communities in our unhoused neighborhoods. I want to add that voting in the current climate is such a hard pill to swallow to begin with and adding the charter, it will make voting. 0001 better. November will be a joke. You adding a charter will add the slightest bit in the fall. I respect you, supervisors, fuck the pigs. I would like to note we have 105 callers on the line with 68 loined up to speak and can we have the next caller, please. After defunding sfpd, they found homelessness went down and quality of life went up and the board of supervisors abolished the board by eliminating the Police Department. Use those two words the next time you Start Talking about the police. Thank you. Can we have the next speaker, please. Hi there. I want to say to the Police Commissioner who said that this is not a radical amendment, more is the pity and supervisors, ill echo what others have said. There is political will and momentum. There is public support. This is a great first start and i am calling in support of the amendment to eliminate any sort of minimum staffing respiratorierequirementsfor sfp. Mr. Walton, thank you for hearing us on the previous item and i have to say the word abolish and defund sound beautiful coming from you, so thank you point. Thank you. Can we have the next speaker, please. Im todd snyder and i am a resident of district 5 and calling in support of the Charter Amendment to give the people of the city and county the voice in determining Staffing Levels for the Police Forces and i also want to push back against something that representative chief scott said about, in essence, complaining about having to file staffing reports to the public. So i am not aware of any other agency in the city or county government that has as much power or leverage over the executive branch or legislative branch than the poa. So i would like the supervisors to at least use their power to affect change so that the people can make decisions about whether we want to reelect you based on your actions, not your words. So again, i strongly support the Charter Amendment. Please give the power back to the people to decide Staffing Levels. Thank you. Thank you. May we have the next speaker. I demand you move any language regarding maximizing police charter. Let this not only be the step towards doing better as a city. We need to completely defund and eliminate any sfpd staffing and abolish police because the police can be replaced with much better programs by the people and for the people. Thank you. Thank you. Can we hear from the next speaker. indiscernible . Can we have the next speaker, please. Hello. Im alana and i live and work this San Franciscos district 2 and im calling to eliminate sfpds staffing requirement and that you remove any language maximizing Police Presence in the charter. Were calling to disband the sfpd in its security and we dont need maximum Police Presence. Much of what the police does could be performed better by nonsfpd organizations. Be brave and listen to constituents and thank you for bringing this forward. Please do your job and listen to the thousands who are calling in. I yield my time. Thank you. If you havent done so, dial star 3 to line up to speak. Please wait until the system indicates you have been unmuted and you may begin your comment. At this time, we have 61 members of the public in the queue to speak. May we have the next caller. Hi. Im anna and im calling to eliminate the sfpd staffing requirement and maximizing Police Presence in the community and charter. Im a member of invisible sf and i do want to point out that the committee that hundreds of people are spending hours of their time to make their voices heard. If you ignore their demands, you will face consequences at the ballot box. Its time to meet the moment and the movement to uplift our communities instead of criminalizing them. Use the money to fund our schools, healthcare and housing for the hopeless. Thank yothe homeless. Thank you. Im connor kelly and i live in district 10 and calling to eliminate the sfpd staffing requirement and remove any Police Presence from the city charter. Removing the staffing requirement is the first step needed to a more just and equitable San Francisco. The more money to spend on sfpd, the more we spend on education, healthcare, transportation, housing, represen. Thank you for chairing this meeting and i look on seeing this on the ballot in november. I yell m yield my time. Next speaker. Im sarah and i live and work in district 1 and im calling in support of the Charter Amendment to eliminate the staffing requirements. This is likely the best chance that you will have in your entire careers to make change that will deeply impact the direction of our city and nation away from the racist Foundation Upon which it was created. And you have the support of the people to do it. Can we have the next speaker, please. Hello. Im chris and im a resident of district 2. Today im calling in support of the chapter Charter Amendment to eliminate the sfpd minimum staffing requirement and similar to others, i demand you remove any language regarding maximizing Police Presence in the community in the city charterer. Thank you, next speaker, please. Good afternoon, supervisors. Im a resident of San Francisco district 1 and im calling in support of the Charter Amendment to eliminate the minimum staffing requirements. I demand you remove any language regarding maximizing Police Presence in the community from the city charter. Police presence does not make me feel safe. It scares me and i would never call the police for an emergency. People calling for more Police Officers will remain unaffected. Listen to the people who have a fearing for their lives. I time to take the power over the staffing away and put it back in the hands of the people. You have a choice. Support the Charter Amendment, black lives member, black trans lives matter and fuck the police. Thank you. Can we have the next speaker, please. Good afternoon, supervisors. Im hope williams and i live in district 6. Im a member of the socialist caucus and please consider my personal perspectives. Im a black woman who considers whether or not to have children because of the guaranteed violence they would experience in the range of microaggression and violent murder committed at the hands of the Police Officers that have supported the protests. The people have spoken. We have made it clear that Police Presence does not lead to Public Safety and calling in support of the Charter Amendment of the staffing requirements. Further, i demand you remove any language regarding maximizing Police Presence in the community in the citys charter. You have a choice. You can uphold the Industrial Complex and the devastating impact it has had on the community or do your jobs as representatives and follow the calls for San Francisco. Thank you. Thank you. Can we have the next speaker, please. Im katelyn and i live and work in San Francisco county. Im calling in support of the Charter Amendment to eliminate the sfpd minimum staffing requirement. Further, we demand you remove any language regarding maximizing Police Presence in the community from the city charter. We are telling you this way of living is violent. This way of living is killing our most vulnerable and now is the time to actualize this community and dismantle the violent institutions within the governments infrastructure, beginning with the police. Remove the minimum staffing requirement, defund, disarm and disband the police. Do the work. Thank you. I yield my time. Thank you. Next speaker. Hello. Im gaylin and im calling from district 11 and making dinner and helping my family. Ive been on this call since noon. I would like to echo everybodys sentimentsesentiments so far. I demand that you strike any language about maximizing Police Presence in the community from our charter and i would like to further say that, you know, you have to be doing better. This is a tiny baby step and i loved hearing my district 11 representative saying that, do what we can, working towards abolishment but we can do better now. These funds could be used for so many other things. Lets not let this slide. Thank you very much. We currently have 91 callers on the line with 59 leaned up to speak. 59 lined up to speak. Next caller, please. Good afternoon, supervisors. Im sarah and i live and work in district 1. Im calling in support of the Charter Amendment to eliminate the sfpd staffing requirements. Police dont keep us safe. Additionally Police Presence harms the black community. Black people make up 5 of the black population but 54 of our jail population and 40 of the people are killed by police. This board is considering making racially motivated 911 calls illegal. Why . Because we all know that the sfpd is dangerously violent towards black people. Black lives matter. Thank you for your time. This is hanna from the Mission District in support of the amendment to remove the minimum requirement of Police Officers. Police officers cant even protect us from the greatest threat to our city, which is the whitecollar crime and corruption that happens right in city hall. I also just want to give a big shoutout to all of the beautiful Community Members sorry, im under the freeway right now, all of the beautiful Community Members who have stayed on the line today and yesterday to speak up when we come together like this, when we raise awareness and we can achieve a lot and im proud of you all. Thank you. Thank you. I want to eliminate the sfpd staffing requirements. It was introduced in 1994 and has no bearing in Empirical Data and i want to draw the attention to a 2016 policy requested by the sfowned predecessors. I hope to see this Charter Amendment on the ballot and look forward to this. I yield my time. Next caller. Good evening, supervisors. My name is m matilda moore. Im a resident with d9. I constant with my fellow people in San Francisco. Police presence does not lead to Public Safety and while i support this Charter Amendment as an important first step, i want to emphasize there is much more change required. The sfpds representatives have been quite gracious in these meets and im happy they did not resist this reasonable amendment. Im monica and im a resident of district 11. I want to thank board president yee and all of those involved for their work on this. I support the amendment in the staffing requirements since the number was arbitrarily required. Im leery of the Police Department making their own recommendations in their approval of the budget and i think we should consider critical resistance. I encourage everyone calling in support of the amendment to remain vigilant this doesnt result in an increase in sfpd staffing and to modify the amendment or introduce additional legislation to provide greater opportunity for the community. Yes, i dont mean to repeat everything thats been said, but i agree with all of the callers and the votes are coming in nova scotia. Knowledge. November. I use the rest of my time for all of the black and brown people that have died or traumatized by the police, sheriff or chp. Thank you. Can we have the next caller, please. Im jessica lee and i live in district 1 of San Francisco. Thank you to the supervisors who brought fort this Charter Amendment to undue the sfpd minimum staffing requirement and i echo the need to maximize Police Presence in the community in the city charter and this is an important and small step to answer the demand to defund sfpd, voice over hours of Public Comment. People are continuing to speak for defunding sfpd. They called this radical and i would call it radical indiscernible . Can we have the next speaker, please. Hi, supervisors. Im a resident of district 1. As made clear yesterday when hundreds called in and waited 12 hours to give their statement on defunding sfpd, this is not a loossolution to Public Safety. Policing threatens black, brown, trans and unhoused people. The degree of antiblack sentiment through sfpd is extreme and i demand that we amend the city charter to eliminate the minimum staffing requirements and removing any language regarding maximizing Police Presence in the community. Let me be clear that all options we imagine including someone on the other side of a 911 call, just not the police. Police follow the calls from your residents for a new San Francisco we imagine Public Safety and amend the charter to get rid of minimum policing staffing requirements. Thank you. Thank you. Can i have the next speaker, please. Hi. Im an sf resident and calling in support of eliminating the minimum staff requirement and to demand you remove any language with Police Presence. History has shown that police dont keep us safe and continuously cause harm in communities based on the colour of their skin. Its long passed overdue we stop this inherent racist practise of policing and invest time in infrastructure. They will benefit us as a whole and not just a few white people. Thank you. Next caller. Hello. Im a transunion o transyouthn San Francisco and im calling in support of this amendment and i would like to demand you remove any language maximizing Police Presence in the community and the city charter. Police dont keep us safe. They harm our communities. Since 1985, sfpd officers have killed over 100 people. When police talk about Public Safety, the definition of public has never included these individuals or people like me. We must region what Public Safety for all looks like. Thank you. Thank you. I would just like to state that members of the public who wish to provide Public Comment should call 408 4189388 and the meeting i. D. Is 146 5397752. And if you have not done so, please dial star 3 to line up to speak and a system prompt will indicate you have raised your hand and wait until youre unmuted and you may begin comments. At this time, we have 61 members of the queue to speak. Im phil and live in district 4. Ill calming i calling to elimie staffing requirement and remove any language regarding maximizing Police Presence in our community. Police presence, it disproportionately harm the black community. The people of San Francisco have spoken and we wont quit. The police do not make us feel safe. Support the Charter Amendment and get rid of this arbitrary staffing level that prevents us from investing in real Public Safety. Black lives matter and black translives matter. Thank you. Thank you, next speaker, please. This is camilia from district 9 in support of this Charter Amendment to eliminate the Police Staffing level minimum requirement and i am also like everyone else calling for a removal of the language that calls for maximizing Police Presence in our communities and i dont have a lot of understanding and history of this particular charter, but if theres a precedent for us to be requiring a maximum, i would say we should go further and go ahead and introduce into this legislation language that says we want a minimum requirement on the road to abolition of a Police Department. So i urge the supervisors to consider that before putting this to the full board next week. And thank you for your time. Thank you. Can we have the next speaker, please. Can you hear me . Yes, we can. Please proceed. Hi, im destiny calling from district 4. Ill repeat the same message i had last night. We must abolish the police. I am calling in support of the Charter Amendment to eliminate the sfpd minimum staffing requirement. I want to thank the supervisors who brought forth this important amendment but i want to remind you this amendment to bring forth is not original. Black men who spent their lives on abolition deserve indiscernible . I am strongly in favour of this amendment. I dont see any need for an arbitrary of police. I, tooi dont understand therea magic number. Maybe it might make sense to have a certain ratio of police to the population, but a magic number doesnt make sense. And so, why is this a part of the charter . Why does this have to be a part of the charter . We need a lot of flexibility in dealing with how we deal with Public Safety and, you know, certainly, theres a lot of other ways to handle our social issues. Speaker time has elapsed. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Im Kayla Williams. I am the acting cochair of the socialist color caucus and calling to eliminate the sfpd staffing minimum requirement and im standing in solidarity with so many people in San Francisco today because we are demanding that you remove any language regarding maximizing Police Presence in our communities and we want to get that out of the charter. I also want to send a big thank you to president yee for bringing this forward and looking forward to see this go to the ballot in november. As a headsup, if you need help managing that campaign, i have an excellent track record and im certain the caucus would love to help with the plot. I yield my time. Next speaker, please. Im from the socialist color caucus and i want to thank everyone on the line before me and on the line yesterday for hours trying to make their voices heard. Its often that we are told that theres no room for us in politics, especially of people of color, and i think its super important to have our voices heard and i want to make sure the supervisors hear our calls to support this amendment to abolish the charter minimum. It is quite ridiculous we have a minimum staffing requirement for sfpd exi d and it should be impt to get rid of it this year. I dont think its one step but the third step into a campaign to defund, abolish, disband and disarm sfpd both in San Francisco and across the count country. Next speaker, please. I live in district 6. How do you spell racism . Sfpd. How do you spell racism . Sfpd. Seriously, defund the fuckingsfpd. It takes away from the public. The police should be cut in half, paid minimum wage. Pai please stand by resources that create Public Safety. We demand you not only support the Charter Amendment and listen to the citizens that hired and you abolish sfpd now. I yield my time. Thank you. Can we have the next speaker. My name is a tina a scientist working in d6. The people of San Francisco have made it clear that the Police Presence does not lead to our Public Safety. We as a society, must take steps towards abolition. Justice a responsibility that keeps the most memorable communities safe. I will calling into limb gnat the sfpd minimum staffing requirement and i demand you remove any language regarding maximizing Police Presence in the community and city charter. The more money from our city budget that has to hold the staffing requirement force sfpd officers the less we can spend on Community Led infrastructure that can keep us all safe. Its kind to take the power over sfpd staffing away and put it back in the hands of peoples representatives. You have a choice. You can uphold the press Industrial Complex on the black mind and you can do jury jobs and fall the kohls for a new path for San Francisco. On the section 57. 7 of the charter, no action or discussions shall be undertaking except that number of policy with statements made or questions told by persons exercising in public to the extent of asking a question to be clarification and i have a clarification of what would it take to strike the language maximizing Police Presence from the charter and add it to the posting. Can we hear from the next speaker . Hi, im a resident of district 5. Im calling in like everyone else to support the amendment to remove the minimum staffing requirements for the sfpd. I also support removal of any language requiring maxization of Police Presence in our community. I just wanted to say that im also extremely disturbed by the idea that sfpd management would come up with a proposal ive been calling into the Police Commission meeting for the last couple of weeks and im disgusted and ashamed of the amount of political posturing with no accountability or responsibility. Id like to remind all of my Community Members who are sfpd is one of the racist and brutal Police Forces in the nation and has been investigated by the department of justices at the federal and state level. They have just been netanyahu. Fire department hi, im calling to support inaudible on the stands that the language should be taken off our charter around maximizing Police Presence in our communities and we dont want police in our communities. We want them gone. And i would also like to see Something Else on the ballot besides this about a polishing the police and the sfpd. This isnt enough. So, please think about what else you can put on the ballot, in november, that is more than this. Because, this isnt enough. I am in support of this and it feels today and theyve been dealing with lots of emails around these issues so please listen to us. Thank you. Is. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker please. Hi, my name is shoot and im a software engineer. And they said they often make the situations worse and we do not need maximum Police Presence motion to work that they can do and much better by other people and organizations. So lets stop taking the largest hammer that we have at our disposal to adjust every single issue that we see in front of us because literally, were destroying our communities. I want to thanks the supervisors who brought fourth this important amendment and i hope this is only the first step and theres a lot more to come. I yield the rest of my time. Thank you for your comments. Is there a next speaker . My name is alex and im a member of the socialist of color caucus and i live and work in district 6. Im calling in support of the Charter Amendment to eliminate the sfpd minimum staffing requirement and any language regarding maximizing Police Presence in the community and the city charter. Thank you so much to supervisor yee for bringing forward this amendment to get rid of this and mentions the minimum and they thought our community would be safer and instead of white people. Acab. All cops are com police enter and accurate and every cop salary say waste of money. Its a first step for communities that have been most targeted by policing imprisonment including blacks, indigenous, people of color, trans communities and our unhoused neighbors. Get rid of our staffing level that prevents us from investing in real Public Safety. I yield my time. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. This is regina district 3 and i would like to remind everyone on this call that the San Francisco pd currently has a grade of f from Campaign Zero due to the number of deadly force skinned and also that only one complaints of Police Misconduct is rolled in favor of civilians. Its time for Law Enforcement abolition and it is of the injustices that prevent us from being a healthy, whole community. I support the Charter Amendment. Most of the work that the sfpd currently does can be better performed by non sfpd or le organizations which have shown a true respect for the sanctity of life. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello, im a San Francisco resident living in working in district 1. I am calling in support of the Charter Amendment to eliminate minimum staffing requirements for sfpd and urge the to maximize press presence in the city. Minimum staffing requirements are in district opposition of defunding. This is not a thought less, radical reaction. They have proven to be ineffective and will not work. Its not possible to reform a Police System that is flawed at its core. When we demand dis panning of sfpd, were not thought lesley doing sought. I echo the sentiments of many others on this call we should redistribute funds and are effective Niagara Falls keeping communities safe. I thank the president for this and urge the supervisors to support this. This is only one of the many obstacles to ensuring the communities. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Is there another speaker on the line . Hey, how are you . My name is miriam and i am a district 5 resident and i work there as well. I work at ucsf and youve heard from so many people tonight and yesterday and the people of San Francisco made it clear that we want to defund, disarm and disband police. This is one step towards that and so i really support the Charter Amendment to eliminate the sfpd minimum staffing requirements and i further demand that you remove any language regarding the maximizing of the Police Presence in the community of charter. Police are a publicHealth Crisis. They literally kill people and they are not a help at all. It makes no fuckins sense. We responded to one Health Crisis this year, lets respond to another one. Thank you. I yield my time. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Good afternoon, my name is janet page and i live in district 11. Im calling in support of the Charter Amendment for the staffing requirement and the people of San Francisco have made it clear that people presence does not lead to Public Safety removing the minimum staffing requirement is the first step in healing for communities that have been most targeted by policing including black, indigenous and people of color in trans communities and our unhoused neighbors. I want to thank the supervisors who brought this amendment forward and its time to take the power over sfpd staffing away and put it back in the hands of the peoples representatives. Support the Charter Amendment and get rid of the staffing level that prevents us from investing in real Public Safety. Thank you. I yield my time. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. My name is anthony. I live in district 8. Im calling to support the Charter Amendment to thank supervisor yee for proposing this ballot measure. Im demanding that any language regarding the maximizing Police Presence in the community be removed from the charter. I want to thank supervisor stefani for her commitment, comments and support of abolition of the police since shes the gun control advocate so thank you and i wanted to say that amending staffing requirement for police in our charter is problematic and the more police we have on our streets does not keep us safe and the minimum amount right h right now is arbitrary and costly in money and lives and im looking forward to voting for this in november and working with all of you on reimagining Public Safety in our city and meaningful way and efforts to keep our sub safe. For anyone who wants to speak with them the Charter Amendment press star 3 to raise your hand if you have not already done so. Next speaker, please. Im calling to support amendment and the police are not Public Servants motivated by public need and theyre a selfinterested group by expanding their own power and creeping themselves further into every corner. Here in San Francisco, a lot of people have come through selling a lot of crap over the years and no one has been more successful than the police. They got it into the city charter we have to buy crap every year and theyre selling this, were going to draw a line through the community and we promise you that all the violence, the harm and risk stays on that other side of the line so when you invest in policing you have the community and if you love that crap is Public Safety then you are saying that all the people caught on the other side of that line dont really count as the public at all. Thats why its our vulnerable accidents receiving that harm, black, indigenous, people of color, trans, unhoused and its not a broken system its the crap theyre selling. Defund sfpd immediately. I yield my time. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. The police are from the community. Of course staffing as with approved by the voters. Eight died and six injured, bleeding hiding and dying waiting for understaffed department and ill equips the time to get quickly the massacres victims between the first and 36 floors. 911 shooting victims called answered the Police Department were delayed because they had to be transferred across the city for medical triage when Police Called they were not authorized by the state and all improvements were in large part because of this charter. Who does this group with their scripts and false info to come to your home like they threatened last night if you dont comply. We used to call crime. Defend the police, thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hi, id like to hello . Please proceed with your comments. Id like before i start check in and actually see if the supervisors are present since we cant see them. As i stated before, maam, this is not a time for discussion or debate to engage with the supervisors. This is our time to hear from you, so please proceed with your comments. Thank you, your time has started. I think that is also very disrespectful and on the previous caller, police are criminals and theyre murderers they do not help us and i live in district 9 where the Police Killed alex on bernal hill and i support the Charter Amendment to eliminate sfpd. Further, we demand you remove any language regarding quote maximizing Police Presence in the community. Get rid of the city charter requirement with the arbitrary minimum requirements of the officers. We want zero police. Take that power away and give it back to the community where it belongs. The people of San Francisco who you work for, have told you its time to abolish the police. They are Vulnerable People and farm our and healing for our communities and and color and trans communities and next speaker, please. Hi, my name is camilla and i am a resident of San Francisco and district 8. I really hope the supervisors are watching since hundreds of us are online to tell us what were thinking about these different amendments. I want to call to support the Charter Amendment to eliminate the sfpd minimum staffing requirement and remove language regarding maximized Police Presence. Today less than 5 of sfpd calls for service are in response to violent criminals. This means that cut the budget and staffing by 50 is a conservative demand. Sociologists writes, part of our misunderstanding about the nature of policing is we imagine we can turn police into social workers and make them nice, Friendly Community outreach workers but police are violent they have the legal capacity to use violence so when we return to a problem, there will be violence because theyre the schools theyre equipped to use instead of trying to reform this failing system we must pivot towards better alternative policing solution, please say it with us, we are asking you to disarm and abolish the police, say those words. My name is case, native San Francisco and directly impacted by the criminal injustice system. The sf sunshine ordinance states Public Officials who attempt to conduct the public business in secret should be held accountable. Turn your cameras on or you just wont be vote voted out. We will keep you with busy for video of this meeting and your behavior during Public Comments that you will be sorry. Im calling in support of this amendment. I further demand that you step up and commit to abolition. Stand on the right side of history, do your job. Black lives matter, more than blue salaries. Thank you. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Good afternoon, supervisors, my name is cindy and i live and work in San Francisco and im calling in support of the Charter Amendment to eliminate the sfpd minimum staffing requirements and i demand that you remove any language regarding weve all heard from thousands of Community Members this last month and its clear we want you to defund, disband, disarm the sfpd. And there are steps to get there in your words. Eliminating the staffing requirement is such a simple and show your constituents they have no plans to act and im sure you are familiar enough to know where that will land you and be assured these demands arent on weak foundations and wont disappear. Please dont insult yourselves by revealing an utter lack of awareness of the research and work black be owe liggist have been doing for decades. We thank the supervisors who brought fourth this important amendment. I yield my time. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Can you hear me . Yes, we can hear you. Please proceed. My name is amanda and i lived in San Francisco in district 8. Im a City Attorney out the city and county of San Francisco. The people that you made clear that the presence does not keep us safe. Im calling in support of the Charter Amendment minimum staffing requirement and i demand you remove any language regarding maximizing Police Presence in the community and city charter. It operates as the constitution and its supposed to reflect the values, goals and vision of the community and this does not represent what the people of the city want. The provisions of the california constitution provide that a city charter has the force and effect of state law. I support the Charter Amendment to remove minimum staffing requirements and i sigh thank you to the supervisors who brought fourth this important amendment and this is the step trying to takeaway the poa power and put it back in the hands of the people. Defund sfpd and support inaudible . Thank you for your comments. Next speaker. Hello, other i live in district 9 and im eliminating the sfpd minimum staffing requirement and im also joining other call and he is demanding any language would maximize Police Presence from the city charter. There are so many other things that i could be going towards and there is studies that common straight that police do not protect property or people and theres countless better ways to ensure that Community Safety and better uses of those funds. This is not a radical demand. For too long we normalized the racism by police and oppression and trauma theyre defending and its time to face our humanity and we can change the system and White Supremacists have created for a city that isnt terrorized and you could defund and abolish and fuck the police. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. This is, this is the pissed off queer glob let. The minimum staffing is a racist policy born out of the war on drugs and black and brown children and i support the removal of the Charter Amendment to begin the defunding, disarming and disbanding of the sfpd. It was made a fund antly clear by hundreds of San Francisco residents last night. I demand that removing of any language maximizing the presence of police if you did not listen to the people you will lose your jobs. Black lives matter, i yield my time. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hi, there, my name is angela and im a resident of district five i just wanted to call in and voice my support for the Charter Amendment to eliminate the sfmd minimum staffing requirement and also removing any subsequent language that regards maximizing Police Presence in our community. To the statements made earlier by the caller who there there wasnt enough police to investigate homicides, im all for moving what police we have to homicide and drastic crimes and take them off of policing unhoused people, traffic stops, take them off of all the other things theyre better organizations in this community that can handle. Thank you. I yield my time. Thank you for your comments. Text speaker, please. This is alley. I live in district nine and im an essential worker for the city of San Francisco im calling in support to eliminate sfpd staffing requirement and demand language with maximizing Police Presence in the community in the city charter. We do not need to maximize Police Presence but minimize Police Presence ex get rid of it. I would like to echo the request of a previously caller for minimum staffing requirements for Mental Health workers, for social workers, educators, for public housing, for our unhoused people ta is what we need. That is what will keep us safe. Its time to take the power from sfpd staffing away from the poa and to put it back in the hands of the peoples representatives. You have a choice board supervisors. You have a choice right now to be on the right side of history at a pivot at moment in history or the wrong side. Thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Im calling in support of the Charter Amendment to eliminate the sfpd staffing requirement and remove any language regarding maximizing Police Presence in the community. We are demanding the police be defunded, disarmed and disbanded. Maximum Police Presence is the opposite of those demands and its not in the best interest of our community. Twothirds of calls should not be criminalized. I think the supervisors who brought fourth this important amendment is time to take the power over sfpd staffing away from the Police Officers association and put it back in the hands of the peoples representatives. Defund the police. Thank you. Next speaker please. This is brit calling in opposition to the Charter Amendment and in support of funding sfpd. Defunding means taking police away from single moms, children exposed to drugs or sex crimes and victims of abuse and domestic violence. Those who need them most. Defunding means decreased moral, poor officer safety and little incentive for officers who care about their community. A well funded Police Department with good trading is where you will succeed in protecting young people and preventing drugs, guns and violence like the recent killing of jays young, a 6yearold boy in the bayview. Despite all, the good cops serve and protect their community with honor, loyalty and integrity. They deserve support, funding and proper trading. Instead of making their jobs harder we need to unite and defend the

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