Transcripts For SFGTV Health Service Board 20240712

Fourstep process for the dental plans to determine the needed rate change factor in this case from 2020 to 2021. Next slide. So with that, well review ratings summary for the plan that well review today. Next slide. Next item, please. The covered populations for the sfhss dental plans as well as the member contributions are outlined on this page. The active employees of three employers are offered dental coverage throughout sfhss, and those are the city and county of San Francisco, the superior court, and the municipal executive employees. For the ccsf, ccsfmea, and meamta employees, they pay 10 a month for single tier and 15 a month for family tier in the p. P. O. These employees pay no contributions for the two dental h. M. O. S that are offered. The superior court and superior court m. E. A. Employees pay no contributions for dental coverage, and the active employees of the San Francisco Unified School District and city college of San Francisco do not elect to provide dental through sfhss, so their dental occurs outside of sfhss. And all of those employees participating are offered dental plan coverage in retierr retirement, and retirees pay the full cost of each employer dental plan with no employer contribution. Next slide. This page illustrates the renewal action summary that ill be presenting today for recommended Health Service board action. Weve focused on, for 2021 plan year, understanding how plan costs in 2019 are impacting 2021 rating actions, and youll see the summary of changed recommendations along with the total enrolled employee and retiree members in each of the programs offered for dental through sfhss. Youll see only one plan is proposed for a rate change action plan increase, and that is the employee action p. P. O. With a modest 0. 6 increase. All other plans are proposed for a decrease due to the elimination of the federal Affordable Care act Health Insurer tax into the 2021 pay year. Next slide. This page illustrates the total cost rates on a monthly basis for 2021 across the active employees in the first three columns of this illustration and the retirees in the last three columns of the illustration. With the delta dental p. P. O. In the top set of figures, the midd middle p. P. O. In the middle set of figures, and the delta h. M. O. In the lower set of figures. So todays recommendations that ill cover shortly are the 0. 6 increase in total cost increase in the delta dental care p. P. O. , a 3 decrease for the United Health care dental h. M. O. Plan, and the [inaudible] retiree p. P. O. Next slide. So with that, well go into the active employee p. P. O. Fees and rates. Next slide. Again, 0. 6 is the recommended change in rates from 2020 to 2021. This incorporates favorable rate change as well as one half of the existing Rate Stabilization balance as was approved by the Health Service board in the may 4, 2020 meeting, and the recommendation includes a new recommended nitrous oxide and noni. V. Sedation benefit to support members during dental procedures which is expected to add 126,000 in aggregate claim dollars for 2021 or 0. 3 which would be funded by the members in premiums or fixed dollar amounts. This is a slide that we reviewed earlier in previous meetings to look at the experience of the dental plan, both in 2019 and over the course of time, and you can see that the loss ratios have been favorable. 100 in 2019, and the per employee per month claim and fee cost has been relatively constant each of the past six to seven years at 120. Next slide. The administrative fees are under a rate guarantee, with 2021 being the third year of that rate guarantee for delta dental of california. You can see the history of the administrative fees on this slide, most notably 4. 62 for employee per month will continue to be the ad stiff fee into the 2021 plan year for the delta dental p. P. O. Next slide. And so this illustrates our calculations that lead to the 0. 6 increase in premium rates for 2020 to 2021, which includes one half of the rating buydown application and the addition of the nitrous oxide nonsedation coverage for the active employee p. P. O. The claims are used from january 18 to december 2019 to generate these rates with a 2 annual trend assumption, projected to 2021. And so our recommended 2021 selfinsured rates for on a monthly basis are 57 consid 57 employee only [inaudible] next slide. So now, well transition into conversation on the fully ininsuri insured dental plans. Five fully insured plans are provided for h. M. O. Plans and all for the active retiries, and because of the removal of the Affordable Health Care Insurance tax result in decreases. You can see it results in a 5 for delta dental, and a 3 reduction in uhchmo. So this results in the delta dental care rates transitioning from 2020 to 2021 for the active employees on the top part of the table and the retirees at the bottom part of the page. Next slide. We present a similar exhibit for United Health care dental h. M. O. , where you see the rates decrease by 3 from 2020 to 2021, with active employees at the top of the page, active retirees at the bottom. Next slide. And for the retiree p. P. O. , delta dental has agreed to add the nitrous oxide and noni. V. Sedation benefit described earlier for the active employee p. P. O. At no additional plan premium to the retirees. And so the 1. 75 reduction due to the elimination of the federal Affordable Care insurance federal tax will hold, and no additional premium is being added into the eat for the nice russ oxide and noni. V. Sedation benefit addition. Next slide. So with that, ill recap our recommendations for Health Service board action today. Number one, for the delta dental active employee p. P. O. , recommend acceptance of the p. P. O. Rates represented in this document, to the total premium rates, which include the provision for the added nitrous oxide and noni. V. Sedation benefit, as well as the holding of the 2020 administrative fees for the 2021 plan year, and then, tot the insured dental plans, accepting the rate renewals as presented in this document, which includes the provision for added nitrous oxide and noni. V. Sedation coverage being provided to the retiree. And with that, transition to the next slide and ask for a statement from the delta dental representatives. Do we have a delta dental representative on the line . Clerk mike, i dont see her name on the list, but im looking right now. Give me one second. Let me reach out to her directly. Give me one second. Commissioner zvanski this is commissioner zvanski. Mike, do we have representatives from the other plans who will be speaking or just delta . There are representatives from the other plans that will be available. Were not going to do this request for statement, but the representatives are available from the other plans as i do those presentations for any questions that are best answered by the plans. Commissioner zvanski thank you. Natalie, we can move on, if youd like, to commissioner comments and questions. Clerk yes. We can move onto commissioner comments and questions, and i will continue to reach out to her directly. Great. So can we go to the next slide . Thank you. President breslin . President breslin okay. Are there any questions from the Board Members . Vice president follansbee yeah, this is commissioner follansbee. I just want to make sure that im clear, that the only benefit change in these four requested actions or in the delta dental active employee for the nitrous oxide and noni. V. Sedation coverage, is that true. And also for the retiree, as well. The addition of nitrous objection item and the noni. V. Sedation coverage for the active employee and retiree p. P. O. Are the only changes to the policies. Vice president follansbee this is commissioner followans b follansbee. I do have a little bit of concern in older individuals. As far as the sedative is benzodiazepines, and im concerned if the study included some sort of observation on discharge from the practice because i do want to make sure that the benefits that we approve are, indeed, applied safely to all of our members. And again, older members may be on medications that may enhance the effects of noni. V. Sedation, but they may also be true of the delta dental, to active employees, as well. Id just like to hear from delta dental about that. If i may, dr. Follansbee, this benefit or these procedures are being done now. They were not being paid for, so your questions on the sedation and the safety protocols in place are valid, and im sure that they can be validated. In the terms of the dental benefit, there are people that wont go to the dentist unless they get nitrous oxide or some sort of sedation, so it was looked at from that lens, but we do want to assure that it is being practiced safely. Vice president follansbee can i just maybe have some clarification. Before we covered this, were members being billed additionally, then, for nitrous oxide and noni. V. Sedation . Yes. Vice president follansbee i appreciate this may be something thats already in process. It adds a certain element of risk now to us as a Health Service system if we are now covering this to know that those procedures are now in place. True, and yes, theres many examples of that. I dont know if theres any liability. That would be sort of a legal question, but yes, i mean, we always would look to a best practice and standard practices for these types of procedures. Commissioner scott this is commissioner scott. I have a question for mike. Has the preventative side of our benefits utilization increased, stayed the same year over year . Can you give me your impression of that, mike . Certainly. It actually has improved somewhat, so in the last year, comparing statistics we received from delta dental specific to sfhss employees and retirees on an aggregated basis, we did see a decrease by 0. 5 on the active employees, and 0. 7 on the retirees on the overall percentage of covered members who are accessing at least one covered service during the course of a year. President breslin i would add to that that delta dental, we have been working with them to do more aggressive campaigning about utilization of the dental benefit, and they were working toward that when this covid hit. And so obviously, thats been put on hold for the time being. And we did include, in the directors report, a utilization summary over the last number of years, so we do continuously look at that with del delta. Commissioner scott yeah. I was just going to make one last small additional comment. Delta dental gives us their book of data, and it is higher among sfhss active employees than it is for book of business. Commissioner zvanski this is commissioner zvanski. Its been a long, long time since i sat in on those negotiations to get the dental plan. I thought at one point both unified and Community College merged their active dental with ours from Health Service, and im just wondering when they split off because we usually say to the School District, if you take your actives, you take your retirees with you, and i notice that we are covering both School District retirees, and theyve apparently gone back to their active benefit which i have to say is a better benefit than what we were covering at first. Does anyone have any idea when that happened . Im just curious. Its something that we actually have been working with the School District over the last year, to consider taking over the dental benefit on their behalf. And weve asked that question and have not found anyone who knows the answer. So we can take this offline, but yeah, anyone that we spoke to, they could not document the history of how that got back to the School District. Commissioner zvanski okay. Well talk about that later. President breslin anyone else have anything else to say . I have a couple of questions. Okay. I dont see a page for the for the retiree h. M. O. Design elements. Theres one for the retiree p. P. O. Design elements and theres one for the h. M. O. Elements, but not for the retirees. I dont see that, the copays for the h. M. O. S. Am i missing something . Yes, i know there are appendix pages that have the design information, and we can certainly supply any additional design information. President breslin thats the only one thats missing, unless its the exact same as the actives. Yeah, let me follow up on that, and well follow up after the meeting. There were no design changes, though, karen, in this year. President breslin so the copays and all is what im looking at, and so everything is, like, 100 covered for the actives, but is it also for the retirees . Its a different plan design than the actives, and mike, i dont know if you can recall offhand the details. Yeah, im just stating that there were no changes this year to what was in place currently in place. Are you looking at page 28 . President breslin yeah. I have page 28 that gives the retirees. Am i not looking at the right thing . Yeah, anthony, if you could please go forward [inaudible] president breslin h. M. O. These are the h. M. O. S im talking about, not delta dental. Got it. Sorry. Okay. Well follow up after the meeting. President breslin yeah, im just curious when comparing the two. And i was also curious about the nitrous oxide. I called my desk about it, and they dont use any sedation at all there. They dont do it in their office, and theyre i consider them top line dentists. Nitrous oxide, they do. They charge 40 at the moment for that, and i dont know any much else. Are there a lot of members that are asking for this sort of thing that you know of . We dont have a count on that. President breslin so the 0. 6 for active, does that include active predicted for this benefit next year . Is that part of their 0. 6 increase . Correct. So it would be a 0. 3 increase without this added coverage, and then, a 0. 6 that includes the added coverage. President breslin should have probably had a second scenario on that, i think. So was this delta dentals suggestion . It was a proposal that they offered upon us asking if these coverages were possible to be added to the program. President breslin because if you now have a very small usage of this program, it just means more money for delta dental. Thats why im curious what the usage would be here . Is it just going to go into the pockets of the delta dental or is it really going to be helpful to the members . Yeah, and thats where [inaudible] yeah, and to the degree that people are going to the dentist that have this covered benefit, that will help. President breslin thats a yeah, its a tough population to kind of get them to change their behavior to go to the dentist. Theres just people that are very reluctant to go. Commissioner zvanski through the chair, this is commissioner zvanski. In my experience over the years, both when i was still active, since ive been retired, ive heard from many, many members who use the nitrous oxide option and wish that it was covered, but i know that theres a fairly at least the people i know, and maybe thats a specific group who commented on the fact that nitrous oxide is what they needed because they had such high anxiety when they went to the dentist. I have to ask dr. Follansbee, the active prescription, when they go to the dentist, do you know what that might be . Vice president follansbee i can speculate that its not a drug like diazepam or valium, which has a very, very low short life. Its probably a benzodiazepam thats short acting. Most of the time, this is a prescription medication, but a short acting one is what i would assume, that that was part of the general sis of my question to delta dental. There you are. We hear you now, sharon. Sorry. Im listening on my cell phone, and im hearing. And were hearing you. Oh, my gosh. Thank you. Im so sorry, everyone. So i would like to provide delta dentals comments at this point in time . Delta dental sincerely values our clients, and we understand the struggles that our patients and clients are experiencing at this time, which we have launched initiatives to support our patients and dentists. We do not intend to profit from this situation, and we will be announcing Additional Information in that regard later in june. Through ongoing discussions with sfhss leadership, as just what has been presented within the recommendation, we will not enhancing the benefits in 2021 to include nitrous oxide and noni. V. Sedation coverage to both the active and retiree p. P. O. Dental plan. This change will be done with no impact to retiree premiums. We continue to encourage all members to follow athome dental processes, such as brushing and flossing daily flo. On march 29, delta dental made an investment into helping those most affected by covid19. 3. 5 million will support increasing access to care across the foundations 15state area. The rest will be appointed to federally appointed Health Centers that provide primary Care Services in underserved areas. 1 million available to these organizations responding to the Public Health emergency and to members experiencing increases in costs and budget shortfalls as a result of the pandemic. 5 million will be focused to california organizations to those dealing with seniors, those living with food insecurities, those experiencing homelessness, and home bound individuals. And on april 15, delta dental of california announced a 200 million loan program through a partnership with lendeavor that will help organizations through 15 u. S. States and the district of columbia. Thank you. Vice president follansbee so this is commissioner follansbee. Thank you for that. I dont know if you heard some of the Board Members questions and conversation prior to your coming online. The question that i posed was the issue of noni. V. Sedation, which i understand is already being administered in monany o these offices with an extra charge imposed to the member, and i applaud the intent, which is to encourage our members to Seek Services they might be avoiding because of an anticipated pain or discomfort, but the question has to do with the protocols and what drugs are being utilized for for noni. V. Sedation and how theyre being monitored and then how the members being monitored after sedation before discharge from the practice. All very good questions, which i will take back and provide answers. Commissioner scott madam president , this is commissioner scott. Clerk karen, youll have to unmute. President breslin im muted. Go ahead. Commissioner scott with that, i recommend that we accept the presentations as outlined on page 32 of this presentation as made by our actuary. Commissioner hao this is commissioner hao. I second that. President breslin this is a comment that i didnt get to finish. All dentists are charging for p. P. E. , the protective equipment that they need to have now. Im not quite sure what the charge is, but i know theyre charging extra for that. And also, my observation is i think that the utilization would be down a great deal for 2020 because i know very few people that have been going to dentist unless its an emergency, so i would suspect the new use would be way down. There is an Additional Charge for the nitrous oxide for the actives, so that was my question, too. Some of these Additional Charges keep being added on for something, and i always think we should look closely at them to see how theyre being utilized. Are they necessary or is it just money going into the pockets of the provider . For instance, last year, the addition of 25 a premium or i guess it was a copay for a premium, our network people, in my opinion, just added another 25 to the to the delta dental because, yeah, this is under the guise of more people going to the p. P. O. , but my personal experience, i wouldnt be changing a dentist because its very difficult to find one youre happy with just for another 25, so i thought that type of thing was just kind of a scenario. So this is just my statement. Im not saying im not going to vote for this or something, but i do think we should look at these little additions that are thrown at us all the time to make sure that theyre good for the member. Okay. So theres a motion on the table. Its been moved and seconded. Is there any Public Comment on this item . Clerk thank you, president breslin. People who are waiting on the phone line, please press onezero to be added to the queue. If you have any comments, which is the dental rates presentation, were going to give a 30second pause, and then well begin Public Comment. Commissioner zvanski i have a question. This is commissioner zvanski. It looks like page 32 on the screen, its 24 when i printed it out. I followed every page, and they were exactly the same. I just wondered what happened. Am i the only one with a page 24 instead of 32, but its the same page. Clare, i can review that with you after the meeting if youre okay with that. Commissioner zvanski okay. That sounds good. Clerk moderator, will you please open up the phone line for the first caller . Operator you have one question remaining. Hello. My name is richard rossman, retiree, and im calling about the smile program, and i want to thank delta dental for the check they sent me for the confusion, and the letter. And also, i read in the directors report that the smile program is part of the 1250, although the smile program is supposed to be for prechbs tiff cleaning, so im not sure why its outside. But ill accept that, and on page my page numbers 28, where it says delta dental of california retirees p. P. O. Elements, and it says annual maximum, 1250 per person, excluding annual cleaning and exams, i think to make it more clear, delta dental should put a statement saying or a line saying that this the smile program is not part of the preventative cleaning and exams and its part of the 1250. I think that would go a long ways to ending the confusion. And then, the other thing is, on the flier they exhibsent ou where it says boost your benefits, they mentioned standard coverage, but most employees are on the p. P. O. , so they should put out another flier comparing the p. P. O. Benefits to the smile coverage, and i think this would go a long way to resolve this confusion, and thank you. Clerk thank you, mr. Rossman. Moderator, can you open up the phone lines for the next caller, please . Operator you have zero questions remaining. Clerk president breslin, that concludes Public Comment for this item. President breslin okay. We have a motion on the floor to review and approve 2021 dental plan rates and administrative fees. All those in favor, signify by saying aye. Are there any opposed . Its unanimous. All right. Item number 10, please. Clerk item 10 is the presentation of the 2021 medicare plan renewal summary. This is presented by mike clark from aon. Mike clarke, aon. This presentation previews what ill be walking through on each of the three detailed presentations that follow for the medicare retirees as well as the kaiser multiregion retirees for the 2021 plan year. Next side. So todays focus are the medicare retirees as well as the multiregion retiree h. M. O. S. Medicare has two programs that are available to us at sfhss, the medicare plans through kaiser, kpsa, as well as United Health care Medicare Advantage p. P. O. Program. And then, in addition to the kaiser Medicare Advantage program plan in california, there are also the multiregion plans in washington, the northwest, which is primarily the portland, oregon, area, and hawaii for nonmedicare retirees and medicare retirees. Next slide. With the prenom cannant focus the medicare plans, you can see the covered medicare lines in the uhcppo, which is available nationally, as well as the kpsa, thats available in california. Over 16,000 medicare lives in the uhcppo, and almost 13,500 lives in the kpsa, and with an additional 67 covered lives in the medicare plans in kaiser washington, northwest, and hawaii, totaling almost 37,000 covered lives in programs across sfhss. There are also 33 early retirees in the kaiser multiregion plans. So the remainder of this overview will focus on the kpsa offered in california and the uhcppo offered nationally. In 2017, sfhss navigated retirees to the two medicare plans available today. With the clinical and financial successes of the Medicare Advantage program over time, and continued enrollment growth that continues into today, both Political Parties generally support the m. A. Program with rate stablt, enhanced medicare education, and enhanced payment models in Medicare Advantage plans. Next slide. Clinically, the Medicare Advantage program is designed to support enrolled members through more effectively managing coordinating overall care delivery, providing targeted and timely care and complex case management, managing lengths of stay, including the goal to reintroduce readmission rates, more effectively supporting retiree end of life cost needs, and well talk at length about those for both plans today. Next slide. These plans operate at lower costs than original medicare due to direct subsidies provided to the Medicare Advantage health plans as calculated by the federal centers for medicare and medicaid. These subsidies generally increase from year to year. Because both sfhss medicare plans release next years plan rates before the final c. F. S. Subsidies are determined for the next plan year, there can be year to year rate change fluctuation in both of the Medicare Advantage plans offered by sfhss due to the fact that at present time those c. M. S. Subsidies are projected to best estimate but are not yet final. Next slide. This table illustrates how Medicare Advantage plans are structured to reduce costs and improve overall quality of care. Im not going to go through everything on this slide, but just focus on high level, the sources of those Cost Reduction and Quality Improvement initiatives on the left side starting with optimizing reimbursement to the plan, which helps to lower the cost that passes through after those federal subsidies to plan sponsors, like sfhss, with risk adjustments, and the star bonus programs, where higher stars represent higher revenue from c. M. S. Flow into the plans and thus lowering the rates that plan onto sfhss. Provider collaboration and building those provider relationships is another ski component of the Medicare Advantage program, and improving Member Health through care management, offering enhanced Preventative Care benefits relative to medicare, and a coordinated integration approach to care and benefits that addresses complex medical needs and end of life care for members. Employers committed to group a medicare retirees benefits should consider a managed care approach where we see at least a 10 reduction in care offerings due to care management. Next slide. In linking the goals of medicare plans and Medicare Advantage plans to the sfhss Strategic Plan, from an affordable and sustainable standpoint, these m. A. Plans offer the greatest ability for us at sfhss to sustain affordable plans for medicare members, reducing complexity and fragmentation. These medicare plans guide members and partnership with Patient Advocates within both programs to encourage Preventative Care and seek appropriate care alternatives when needs arise. The m. A. Plans allow for value added benefits that go beyond Core Health Plan coverage such as enhanced nutritional counseling, Fitness Programs, Transportation Services, and more that well discuss in each presentation that follows. Next slide. And for the last two Strategic Plan goals, choice in flexibility is a goal for the Medicare Advantage plans offered in northern california, with the local h. M. O. Model and the national uhcmappo program, and even those living out of the kpsa service areas, the United Service model meets the clients needs as a plan. The m. A. Plans are designed to support members across their spectrum of health needs through coordinated care when needing care. For more information on Medicare Advantage plans, we encourage you to review aons december 2018 presentation to the Health Service board, titled medicare managed marketplace overview, which is available on sfhss. Org. Next slide. So with all medicare plans being fully insured, the Rate Stabilization does not apply, and on a status quo renewal basis before any changes may be considered for 2021, youll see that the status quo rating actions are decreases for both plans into 2021 after both plans sustained sizeable inskraess in rates for increases in rates for the 2021 plan year. The presentations that follow will document the rationale behind how those 2020 renewals were unfair and how the rates next year are decreasing. We will provide an alternative are you negatal recommendation to introduce a Meal Delivery program that is the same program offered in the uhcmappo program, and this alternative would shift the 5. 5 rate decrease to an overall 5. 0 rate decrease for kpsa, and again, well review that shortly in the kaiser presentation. Next slide. So i conclude my presentation by showing projected 2021 total monthly cost rates for the two medicare plans, as well as the employer and member contributions for medicare retirees who receive the full city charter formula employer contributions if all recommendations presented today are accepted by the Health Service board, including a recommendation to add the post discharge Meal Delivery writer to the kpsa program. The tiers shown below assume all medicare lives, but we do show mixed [inaudible] so that concludes my introductory conversation for the medicare presentation today. Commissioner zvanski this is commissioner zvanski. Through the chair, i have a question, mike. When i first heard Medicare Part of the medicare, i guess, enhanced benefits included the transportation and the meals, i thought that that was granted through medicare, and that that would mean that medicare would increase its contributions for Medicare Advantage plans to the health plans, such as kaiser and u. H. C. , and now, i see that this cost is being added to the premiums, and im kind of confused as to why it would be added to our presumiums if it s added to the medicare benefits. According to the presentation today, those Program Costs are included within the total premium rates that United Health care is offering for 2021, and i will ask a kaiser representative when we conclude the kpsa presentation later today to speak to the kaiser approach for the financing of those benefits. President breslin any other questions . Commissioner zvanski excuse me, commissioner breslin, but it sounds to me, then, that the plans have increased their rates for their services and theyre not getting additional that medicare is not granting them an the difference through what it it reimburses them for their medicare members because those plans u. H. C. And kaiser collect a lot of money from medicare for having Medicare Advantage programs and covering medicare, and thats kind of my question here, as to why were all being charged that when it seems to me that medicare should be paying the plans to provide those, and thats what im not understanding. Sure, no, thank you for the question, commissioner zvanski. What id like to suggest, if its okay, is to defer that question to each of the two presentations that follow so that we can ask representatives from each of the plans to speak to your very excellent question. Commissioner zvanski thank you. President breslin any other questions from the commissioners . I have a couple, too, but ill defer them along the same lines as commissioner zvanski. So is this lets see. This was an action item no, this was discussion. Okay. We need Public Comment on this item. Clerk okay. Well wait about 30 seconds for the public to catch up. If youd like too provide Public Comment, please press one and then zero to be added to the queue. Well begin in 30 seconds. All right, moderator, will you please open up the conference line for caller number one . Operator you have zero questions remaining. Clerk president breslin, that concludes Public Comment for this item. President breslin okay. Very good. Now weve been at this for about 1. 5 hours. I would assume everyone would like to take maybe about a tenminute break. Commissioner scott absolutely. This is commissioner scott. President breslin okay. So well have a tenminute break, and that means well be this is presented by mike clark from aon. The fully ensured retiree rates for the 2021 year. Next slide. Well start with our recommendation and a summary of the recommendation, just introducing the United Healthcare advantage ppo plan and commentary on the proposed rates for 2021, which this year included twoyear rate guarantee being proposed by United Healthcare and review the 2021 monthly rate cards and finished with our recommendation and you can see the information that is in the appendix, as well, for reference and i will not be kind offincovering that today but its available for reference the summary, is it recommended the Health Service board accept United Healthcare advantage ppo, retiree rate cards as presented today with a 422. 22 per member rate for the 2021 year which representing a 22 rate from the 20year level. This comes with the understanding that the 2020 rates are a part of a twoyear rate guarantee proposal including a 427. 22 per member, per month rate quotation for th. Next slide. So well go into our commentary on the rates. You can see no plan design or Program Changes are proposeds a part of this renewal for the United Healthcare plan and the renewal is aided significantly by the permanent elimination of the federal Affordable Care act, Health Insurance tax part of the secure wan act passed in septemr of 2019 and this follows a 17. 0 increase in rates from 20192020 where a majority of that increase was attributed to the 2020 return of the aca head tax. I also note in the footnote to this page that some members in this program have a part bonly plan because they have not qualified for medicare aid either on work requirements and have chosen not to pay the premium and this is a small component of the total membership in this plan and presently 141 sf participants are on the part b only plan. This is commissioner zarsky, do we know if those 141 are mostly police and fire, mostly fire . Do we have any idea . We can follow up with United Healthcare to understand who these individuals are, to be able to know. It includes the rate plan for the 2022 plan year leveraging 2020 underwriting surplus by the suppression due to covid19 pandemic for use in 2021 and 22 proposed rates and youll see here at the bottom of the page, the current rates for 2020, 434. 87 per member per month and how those will reduce in the 2021 and 22 whereand 2022 would increase by 9 but be 8 lower than the existing rate for planned year 2020. And the status quo basis, 2. 9 decrease is driven by the major component of the Affordable Care act tax and this has been applying some years but not others for about the last five to six years and it was not applied in the 2019 rating. It did come back for the 2020 rating and thats resulted in the high increase for 2020, but now, it is permanently eliminated in the 2021 planned year and this compromised 8 of the 2020 plan rate and so was the significant favourability to the rating for 2021. And then claim trend and underwriting factors with the center for medicare and medicaid revenues expected to reign relatively flat in 2020 to 2021, thelying rate increase before applying that Affordable Care insurance act would be approximately 9 . However, uhc has proposed to a cascade claim reduction in 2020 that stemmed from claim suppression due to the covid19 pandemic situation and namely for healthCare Services not happening during this time and not expected to return later in 2020 to support lower rates for this plan in 2021 and in 2022 versus if the pandemic never occurred and so the end result is a 2. 9 rate decrease for 2021 along with the rate guaranteed described earlier for 2022. Next slide. And the proposed 2022 plan year rate is guaranteed by United Healthcare and is subject to the following provisions worked through between sfhs and the United Healthcare and essentially, anything that is within the uniteds control cannot impact the rate for 2022 and these stipulations outline contenoutlineconimaginecies to s laws and regulations, assessments, taxes or marketplace changes that would have and impact over 2 of impact costs or revenue. The mappo plan includes the innovation benefits first introduced to the plan in 2019 that in support enrolled numbers all at additional planned premium for the 2021 planned year and so to address the commissioners question in the prior presentation. These include the Silver Sneakers Program, which is a gym membership which has 4,272 enrolled lives and just over 1500 of these actively participating during 2019. And the second is routine and posed discharge Transportation Service where 236 total trips have been taken so far in 2020 through late april by uhcmappop members and the third is a post discharge Meal Delivery of up to 84 meals consentin consecutiveld and so far in 2020 through late april, a total of 8,344 meals have been delivered and when setting the uhc premiums, we include the cost for the basic vision plan through vsp, which are unchanged from 2020 and the healthcare sustainability charge of 3 per retiree a month which is unchanged from 2020. Next slide. So with that, we show the rate cards being proposed for 2021 and each of these are contained for 2021 with distinct medicare dolcolumns for the city plannedp po blue shield access plus and trio. Next slide. These rate cards presented in this document reflect the full employer contributions for Retiree Medical coverage presently available to retired employees hired on january 9, 2009, retired persons who retired for disability and surviving spouses or surviving domestic partners who died in the line of duty. Retiree medical coverage but no employer contribution is available to retired employees hired on or after january 10t january 10th, 2009, at least five but less than ten years of credited service with the employers and coverage at 50 of the employer chartered contribution rate is available to retired employees after january 10, 2009 with greater than ten years but less than 15 years of credited service. The segment of retirees will receive the full employer chartered contribution for each medical plan and coverage as reflected in the following rate cards. Next slide. This rate card illustrates the total premium as weve discussed for the United Healthcare ma plan, as well as the mixed family situations, two in medicare, one plus nonmedicare and the right three columns of the page representing the nondifferent medicare plans that those dependents can enroll in and they include the vision plan premium for basic and the 3 sustainability fee and then, the allocation of the employer contributions in the middle of the page by coverage here to result in the final number of contributions and how those have changed from 2020 to 2021. This illustrates in a different way, the change in the monthly retiree contributions and the top part of the page, the monthly employer contributions in the middle part of the page and the monthly total cost rates at the bottom of the page. In all cases where there is an amount, all figures for medicare retirees are decreasing by 2. 9 with varying levels of increase or decrease depending on the plan, the nonmedicare dependent is enrolled in for the nonthree columns on the page. Next slide. So with that, ill present our recommendation. It is recommended the Health Service board accept the advantage ppo retiree 21 rate cards as presented today with a 422. 22 rate for the plan year representing a 2. 9 decrease and rate from the 2020 level and this recommendation comes with the understanding that the 2021 rates proposed by the United Healthcare are part of a twoyear rate gained proposal that is including the 427. 22 per member, per month rate quo quotation for the 2022 year. Its for the 2021 year plan only, but we want to acknowledge that the United Healthcare proposal also includes this second year, twoyear guarantee. Mr. Clark, i need to make a quick announcement. President breslin is trying to get back in the meeting via the phone line and having technical difficulties and ill pass the responsibilities of the chair to Vice President until president breslin can return. Ok, thank you very much and this is Vice President and ill be taking over as acting chair until president breslin returns. They can open up for the discussion of questions from the Board Members. Hello . Karen . Hello . We can hear you, yes, youre on the phone line. In the meantime, any questions from the Board Members for mr. Clark . I know we have approved some the rate guarantees and other scenarios and is this something from your standpoint that youre seeing across the public and private sectors . There are a lot of things that can happen between one though, now and 22 and i understand this number within the control of the health plan, but is this something that is new, different or timely in this respect . Yeah, thank you for the question. In this particular instance, this is not something that commonly see with Medicare Advantage plans. Typically, its a oneyear renewal circumstance and especially in this case, with an early renewal before the final cms subsidy rates are set, but United Healthcare did come to us, acknowledging the likelihood of lower claim exposure in 2020 to the covid19 pandemic and the suppression of healthcare thats been resulting overall. And obviously that could not have been foreseen at the time they developed their 2020 rates last year and so, in an approach to their underwriting proposal, we had significant discussion about the amounts that were being applied for use for the future renewals for 2021 and downtow2022 as well as the infon presented earlier on a slide in this deck. And so in the end, it did result in a more favorable rate renewal than would have occurred otherwise with just a straight somewhat just typical underwriting proposed by United Healthcare and so, because of being able to achieve a lower rate than would have otherwise been in the case in 2021 and lock in a relatively modest increase for 2022, lead us to recommend this twoyear renewal approach for United Healthcare. Again, it seems like theres an upside to it and i can appreciate to it. Obviously, the down side is that a part of the diminished access to healthcare will be diminished access to screening for Health Problems that may go undetected, colonoscopies and Artery Disease and on the one hand, im impressed with the shortterm benefit, but a little concerned about the health of our members in the long term with these kinds of programs and done to try to catch up with the deficit in healthCare Services that have been postponed during the pandemic. Yeah, if i may, i will ask United Healthcare representatives to speak about expectations for the rest of the year for members, how theyre encouraging members to see their primary care physicians so that information can be captured as a part of the cms process for star ratings and the house call programs and so if i may call on United Healthcare representative to speak about that. Hi, commissioners. This is shannon hoss with United Healthcare and yes, we are continuing to reach our membership to encourage them to take advantage of virtual visits as much as possible and then as the different states start opening up for inperson healthCare Services, we will be doing communication campaigns out to the memberships to encourage them to continue to get their preventative screens as much as possible. And so i just had a discussion with jessica yesterday about continuing those communication campaigns. Through the chair, this is commissioner scott. What is the medicare star rating of the plan that we have . 4. 5 stars. Thank you. Youre welcome. Any other questions . Karen, are you back online . Is president breslin back on the line . I can see her on a phone line. Can you hear me . I can, but can you hear me . Yes, we can. Oh, you can, i didnt know you could. Great, ok. My power went out here. And it isnt even fire season yet. [ laughter ] so i missed a lot of this because i trying to fool around with this stuff, but last year, you know, they came United Healthcare came with a 17 raise, as we know, and you say the majority of that was a hit tax, but 8 was a hit tax and 9 was what their increase would have been without hit tax and so, then again, it looks like 9 this year except for some of the other things you mentioned. And im wondering about this post discharge meals. How did they go from 1,344 two last year, to 1,344 this year . And what is the percentage of usage for these meals, because i think we should be looking closely at these things to see where the money is really going. So we can take that offline and present those back to you. And assuming they say on all of these meals, two meals a day, usually, and i was looking at meals after safeway and what they would be and probably the most 54 or something. And so, were paying were paying 1. 75 for the meals a month and like the last time, the utilization was ridiculous. We should be looking at these things and seeing, are we getting our moneys worth . Theres other ways to get meals, maybe, besides this and basically the meals in plastic than you microwave them and nothing health cree abou healthd im just questioning this whole meal issue. Thank you for the clarity. For clarity, the 1. 75 is the kps charge ill review in the next presentation and this year United Healthcare is including the added benefits i discussed earlier at no additional planned cost. So our members are not payed 1. 75 per month for healthcare . Thats correct. Theyre paying zero for these meals . Thats correct. Its included in the plan. I looked at the agenda for june 2019 and looks like our members are paying a little over a dollars per member per month for the meals and so, when i do some sort of quick calculations, which i know have lost, we paid for this year, i think weve paid Something Like 65,000 for the number of meals delivered and i have to go back, to figure out how many meals weve delivered. So the additional rate increase, we did indicate that into last years rate interest. It was a little over a 1. 04 per member, per month and am i remembering that correctly . Yes, it was 1. 01 in 2019, when it was introduced, correct. So were not even paying the dollar now . Thats correct. So were paying zero and how did that happen . So its not accounted for in the rate once so once we did the initial implementation for 2019, its just included in the plan now and its not an Additional Charge. It was into the total rate . Correct. So then you are paying it, right, in the long run . Ill come back with some Additional Information on how its absorbed into the rate. Its no longer a charge. Were not charging as a part of thofthe premium for those meal deliveries. So im curious about the 1,344 bursts of last year. When you say two, i dont think that was our overall there were 125 meals across two individuals. Versus 1,344 this year, i guess. Correct. Ok. And i dont know what percentage that would be. Im not sure, too, was the end on. I dont think that was the 2020 end of year number. That was 2019 yeartodate as we made the rating presentation for 2020. And the meals have to be prescribed. Its not the option of the patient being released from the hospital. It has to be prescribed as a part of the treatment, am i understanding that correctly . Its not necessarily a prescription. The case manager that is working with the patient just needs to recommend that they get post discharged meals or transportation and then they can take advantage of that benefit. And so this is commissioner scott. Ithis is where i have a question only of you, but also in the upcoming presentation. At the time a person is being discharged from the hospital, there are a number of discharge plan activities that are executed by hospital staff, by social work folks, so on and so on. There are a number of offices that get involved in that and my essential question is, who at that level is oriented or knows how this is being handled by our member who happens to be covered under your plan or under kps plan . For United Healthcare clinical case manager is assigned, when a member is inpatient is working directly with that member and they would be the ones making the recommendation. I see. And this is at the bedside of the person and their Family Member if theres an accountable Family Member, they would be aware of this . It would likely be by phone, not necessarily inperson. I see. Thank you. This is commissioner falls. Number one, karen, i did a simple calculation based on the number of meals delivered through late april and what last years new rate for these meals, per member, per month, ongoing and built into the current new rate and were paying about 48. 70, i think, per meal. 48 . [ laughter ] thats my calculation based on the number of our members enrolled in this United Healthcare Medicare Advantage program and the number of meals delivered and the rate from last year. I can guarantee that the rate that were being offered includes this. Its just not a change in benefit. And then to get back to the second question and the comment, the second observation and a comment, as someone who discharged lots of patients over my medical care, there are discharged instructions, people with heart problems and low sodium diets and its in the health plans advantage unti noo discourage habits that might prompt readmission within 30 days, because part of the Medicare Advantage rating includes readmissions. And so dietary recommendations that can be implemented into, in fact, meals so that for a person on Heart Failure, i would hope the meals provided are low sodium meals following the diets recommendations. Its an advantage to the patient and health plan and decrease the readmission risk for that member if they got and took their meals as provided and didnt supplement them with salty potato chips or hamburgers. So again, its a twoway street and my calculation, i guess im wrong, were paying fairly dearly for this but it would be a benefit to the members to be offered meals that are consistent with the recommendations of their medical team. Correct, the moms meals does offer different diet plans for various conditions, Heart Failure and low sodium being within ooneof those. The reasons this is discussed today is because there were strong evidence that these meals do make a the difference, but they are noting in the patients overall wellbeing and yes, the studies were done in relation to readmission rates which were exorbitantly high. This is a big piece of that. As fragments of our Healthcare System is, this is a huge challenge and boils down to as Commission Scott was saying, in the hands of the case manager that is actually doing the discharge, are they able to connect the patients with these types of acute Care Services and i think youve heard from shannon how united approached this and youll have an opportunity to hear how kaiser approached it. Theyre similar and different, but at the end of the day, if theyre able to systematically able to change the way we manage acute care, it will make a difference in the welfare of our population. That assumes everybody has a microwave, right . My experience with the programs is when they dont have one, they get one and i imagine those programs have faced the challenges as well, is looking to ways to improve. I mean, we could work with shannon, with kaiser to see what the satisfaction is around these meals. That would be a reasonable thing to ask. I cant imagine these meals would keep anybody healthy but better than not having anything to heat but 48 a meal is ridiculous. Thats the uptick rates that we had at that time, and so it is encouraging to see that keep in mind the target population here is hospitalized patients and as the number of people get hospitalized, it goes down. Theres not you cant really think about it, even though we typically pay for these on a per member, per month and its not a service thats readily available to every member because the target population is the sicker of the population. Its the people discharged from the hospital, basically, right . Yes. I think the point that the director is making, we would have to look at the number of individuals that are admitted to the hospital per year and i think out of our total membership, there isnt a significant percentage of individuals who are actually admitted since so much care these days is outpatient and more people are taking advantage of Preventative Care. So i think the population were talking about is a small one, but its usually with very acute problems or chronic problems that require that kind of hospitalization and the postcare. Ive tested the meals on wheels as they were distributed not to one of our members but to a retiree in another county who was being served by meals on wheels for that and the meals were actually quite good. And i was totally impressed with them. And so i think maybe we do need to have some kind of rating as to the quality of the meals and what is being distributed and if the individual is unable to have meals prepared for themselves and theyre on restricted diets, it needs to be controlled somehow and they need to be fed, because many of the folks will have caregivers at home and not able to do their own care themselves, i think. Ii want to point out that number one, this is a vulnerable population and sodium intake, for example, could put someone into Heart Failure and these meals should serve as a good template, whether theyre palitible or not, but people should be able to make them palitible with other spices and whatever. And im certainly not advocating that we take the 48 per meal and just hand it to our post discharged patients and say, here, you have 150 a day to buy food wherever you go, because there is benefit not only to the Members Health to get ongoing instruction in appropriate dietary, you know, meal preparations and planning and whatever. But also, if we can help decrease the readmission rates, then rates go down for everybody, because those calculated again into the following years rates, assuming that its not a rate guarantee. Good point. Ithink we need to look at the statistics that now we have over 18 him meals distributed, i think the cost of the meal has probably gone down significantly. Although, i dont know what you used for your numbers, doctor. I just used the what the minutes of june 2019 listed as cost of odding thi adding this. Now that its a benefit, im sure its ruled in. In. I dont have access to uhcs calculations for providing these meals. I know what we reimbursed across the board last month. We can do a report out on how these programs are working in the fall. Madam president , this is commissioner scott. All of my power is out here and so maybe ill just let commissioner fong speak to run the meeting because i cant mute or unmute or anything here. Then through the president and acting chair, i would like to offer the following motion, that we accept the actuarys recommendations as outlined on page 25 of the presentation, which includes the rate cards that are included in todays presentation. Thank you. Do i hear a second . Second. The motion has been made and seconded. I would like now to open up the phone lines for Public Comment. Natalie . Thank you. Put were goinwere going to had pause for members on the phone line and members watching catch up and i will start that 30second pause at 30 minutes and then well open up the lines. Can we show that page 25 . Because that doesnt match my printedout copy either. Im sorry. Anthony, any way to go back to page 25 . Is that the recommendation page . Yes. Thank you. Claire, for my own personal preference has been to open up my ipad at the same time and so i have access to the slides independent of the projected page. Because i agree with you that it is difficult with you to refer back to previous slides under the current formatting. Thank you, doctor. This is actually page 16 in the items that i printed out, the attachments that were given to us and i havent figured out how to use that ipad yet but i appreciate the comment because ill spend more time trying to learn that. Excuse the interruption for the meeting. Thank you. Thank you, commissioners. Moderator, can you please open up the phone line for the first caller. Operator you have two questions remaining. Im Herbert Winer and i was wondering at the point of clarification, did we do item 10 already . This is item 11 and i just want clarification on that. Yes, mr. Winer, we did it before the break and we started with item 11 after our ten manufacture minute break. Ok. And one question i have is, this plan seems very comprehensive and im a member of United Health. And my concern is we only have two plans, United Health and kaiser. And i would like to see the city plan restored for retirees. Otherwise. I have no comment on what is proposed and i disagree with the competition, the orders to keep the rates down and to provide very good service for retired and active members. Mr. Win winer, is that all yu need to say or anything else . Thats all i have to say. Thank you for your comment. Its noted. Moderator, will you please open up the lines for the next caller, please. You have one question remaining. This is fred sanchez, the president of protectourbenefits and i echo some of the same comments mr. Winer just said. I would love to see a return of the city plan. I mean, the comment was made earlier about the two choices of flexibility. The best way to do that would be to get as much providers bidding on the Health Service system and so, when we have that rft done, hopefully it will be so attractive, we will get multiple providers that arent providing services now and the they will e in. Interesting stuff because of the shortterm visits down and i share the concern that later on we might have a case of more dramatic patients coming in becausandthen well have a dramc increase in rates and thats a real concern. Speaking on the meals, if it really does mean less readmissions, that sounds like a good thing and its kind of like paying it forward like the silver sneakers, keeping people in better shape so that their need for admissions for various medical issues become lessen. Thats the thing that if they track over time and if we can get more providers, we would like that and we would like to see possibly the city plan coming back for the retirees. Im very concerned about the early retirees. Their rate increases over the last few years has been so substantial that its hard for that group. They need more providers. Thank you for everything that you guys do. Thank you, mr. Sanchez. Moderator, will you open up the call line for the next caller, please. You have zero questions remaining. Vice president , that concludes Public Comment on this item. So i think that were ready to go ahead and vote on the motion thats on the table for this. Would all members signify by saying aye and any opposition . It passes unanimously. We can move on to the next item. Yes, item number 12 is the review and approval of the kaiser senior advantage medicare fully ensured retiree rates and premium contributions for california, and this is for plan year 2021 and this presentation is done bymike clark from aon. Well review the senior advantage or kpsa, fully ensured retiree rates for the 2021 plan year in california. Next slide. Wool start with our recommendation and then an introduction to todays discussion, provide commentary on the kpsa 2021 rates, including Program Writer considerations, presenting monthly cards for two scenarios, including a comparison of 2021 versus 2020 rates. Closed with a recommendation. And as with prior presentations, we have appendix slides i will not review but are there for reference. Next slide. It is recommended that the Health Service board accept the kpsa medicare hmo retiree rate cards as presented under the post discharge Meal Delivery writers scenario which would include the adoption of a new post discharge Meal Delivery writer as described in this presentation for kpsa in 2021 and this would result in a 5. 0 reduction in kpsa per member, per rate. Next slide. And so well start our commentary and introduction to this presentation. Next slide. Well comment that as we reviewed earlier, theres 13,463 medicare eligible retirees enrolled in the kpsa plan and since a request by shsf, kaiser provided an early estimate for the following years and kpsa member retiree rates to be used in rate care development. Next slide. After our 12. 2 rate increase from 2019 to 2020, the premium rate before considering the addition of a post discharge meal differrery program is decreasing by 5. 5 from 2020 to 2021 and it would be a decrease including post meal discharge delivery program. The rate also includes an enhancement of the Transportation Services rider that was added for the 2020 planned year as wheelchair and gurney transport will now be included with program fees increasing for this, as well as a fee for the existing silver and fit Fitness Program. You see the pages where ill review it later in the presentation, the rate cards for both scenarios. Next slide. The derivation including all three programs, includes an added post discharge Meal Delivery writer if approved is shown here starting with the 2020 precms reconciliation, kaiser medicare member premium rate and the change in the yeartoyear medicare reconciliation was favorable and favorable underwriting adjustment from 20 to 21 and it added for th the innovation includes the enhanced benefit, included in the premium rate if all three are included in the program of 347. 37 and the sum released before the 2021 final approval that we reviewed earlier today. Next slide. The proposed rate adjusted for prior years cms reconciliation variances is an estimate since kaiser has not received that final approval from cms for the 2021 rate. Given its an estimate, kaiser will reconcile any differences between the 2021 rate provided today and the ultimate final 2021 rate next spring. And this difference will be applied to the 2022 rates. Since its a risk rated for the medicare population, the final rate could be higher or lower than estimated applied. Although the desire is to be as close to the initial estimate as possible. They cannot project the final rate, nor predict the ultimate variance between the initial and final rates at this time. Next slide. Both the medicare reconciliation adjustment and trend are favorable for 2021 as we discussed earlier and as a reminder, when we set our total kpsa premiums and rate cards, we include the vsp basic plan, vision premiums and the sfhs healthcare Sustainable Health charge. Next slide. Now well go into a conversation on the Program Writers. Next slide. And in recent years, as weve discussed today, medicare have been encouraged to provide support for Members Around the healthCare Services they obtained. Three programs were discussed for the 2021 plan year which represent a mix of programs already in the plan this year, as well as an enhancement in new program consideration. So youll see as we talk about each of these, well discuss the continuation consideration of silver and fit for fitness, the enhancement consideration for the Transportation Service and new consideration for the post hospital discharge meal differrery service. Next slide. And the silver and fit program is an exercise and Healthy Aging program which is similar to the Silver Sneakers Program we discussed earlier than the united plan. They provide a Fitness Program and the 2021 premium charge for silver and fit is 2. 80 per member, per minute or 452,000 total, which is a passthrough of the program cost through the organization that operates silver and fit, American Specialty Health. In terms of utilization for the 2019 plan year, there were 1,185 members enrolled in the gym membership and 125 members enrolled in the home Fitness Program. So in total, approximately 10 of total kpsa plan members elect to enroll in the silver and fit program. Next slide. As background in the Transportation Service discussion, the Health Service board approved transportation benefit enhancement to both medicare plans recently, the United Healthcare plan of 2019 and kpsa for the 2020 plan. This provides Transportation Services at no cost to the member up to 24 oneway rides annually, as well as a post discharge after a hospital stay ends within a 50mile distance limit per trip. Presently, the kpsa transportation rider does not accommodate participation of a member in a wheelchair or gurney during the ride. They must be moved into a seat and the vehicle presently for transport, where the wheelchair, for instance, can be tucked into the van, but the passenger would not be riding in the wheelchair in the van. Next slide. But for the 2021 plan year, kpsa is preparing to accommodate the transportation of a member in a wheelchair or gurney to allow for the transportation rider fee and the kpsa rate would increase from the current 2. 75 per member, per month, to a proposed 3. 87 per member, per month in 2021 and this represents an nursincrease of 181,000 annual. For the first three months, there were 47 rides and ill verbally update that for the first month dates, there have been 63 rides delivered to kpsa members through the existings transportation rider. So again, 63 rides now through the first four months of 2020. And pricing is based on these utilization assumptions from ktsa derived from kaisers observations for these services and other kaiser planned geographies and expect 5 of members for medical appointment rides and 3 for total members for post discharge rides. And there is a small additional amount within the pricing to cover administration and Information Technology support for the program. Next slide. In the new consideration for post discharge Meal Delivery, if you recall 2019, this was added as we discussed earlier today for the United Healthcare plan. For 2021, kpsa has the ability to offer a Meal Delivery service which is not offered in kpsa today. Up to 84 homedelivered meals following a hospitalization, when referred to by a clinical staff member includes three meals per day, limited to one utilization. All meals are ordered in succession immediately following an inpatient hospitalization and cannot be spread throughout the course of the year and the cost for the meal as benefit for kpsa members is 1. 75 per member, per month, for 380,000 total. The pricing assumes the 3 utilization of total numbers for post discharge Meal Delivery on the experience of the vendor, moms meals with other plans and there is also a small additional amount in pricing to cover administration and Information Technology support. Next slide. please stand by . Just as a reminder that the rate cards are for those with full contributions, and there are other cards for those with other coverage or contribution, depending on active or retiree. So this illustrates the difference between 2020 plan year retiree contributions under each of the two scenarios that were presenting today. The top set of figures are the status quo contribution. That is if the Meal Delivery rider is not offered into the kpsa plan versus the retiree contributions in the bottom table for 2021 if the Meal Delivery rider is included. You will see that the retiree only contribution is zero throughout, so no impact there. For those covering Family Members, theres a small differential in retiree contribution between status quo and the Meal Delivery contributions. This card shows the Meal Delivery rider scenario, building on the total cost items in the upper part of the exhibit. The employer contribution in the middle part of the exhibit, and the final member contribution and the change in member contribution in the lower part of the exhibit shown in this chart for the three medicare only tiers, medicare retiree only, plus one, and plus two or more. We have appendix in the exhibits that capture mixed medicare family rate tiers to exhibit the impact of retiree contributions in the appendix, as well. Next slide. This shows the change in retiree contributions and contributions and rates under the status quo scenario. Next slide. And then, we have two pages, starting with the rate card if the Meal Delivery rider is offered, and the next slide is the change in rates for contributions if the Meal Delivery rider is offered. So well go to the recommendation page. It is recommended that the Health Service board accept the kpsa medicare h. M. O. Retiree rate cards as presented today under the post delivery rider as presented in todays presentation that would result in a 5. 0 reduction in kpsa per month member rate. Vice president follansbee, i turn to you. Vice president follansbee okay. Thank you very much. Id like to open this segment up to questions and comments from commissioners. Commissioner scott this is commissioner scott. I dont know if theres a plan representative on from kaiser, but its regarding the wheelchair costs, and have you or has kaiser contracted with a different vendor to provide wheelchairtype of transportation versus the vendor that you currently had or how is that working and why is there this expansion of costs of 181,000 . Thank you, commissioner scott. Kay kessler with Kaiser Permanente. We are continuing to contract with the same vendor, and weve been working with diligently with them. I know that weve had many discussions over the past yea,s maybe longer, about adding this benefit. And based on the usage that weve seen with this type of transportation in other regions and some of our other business lines, we determined that this would be the correct rate to include the gurney and wheelchair transport. Its a specialized type of transport. Commissioner scott but its adding 181,000 to the cost . Yeah, i believe and i dont have the page in front of me. Mike, i think its 1 commissioner scott 1. 75 or something. Thats correct. It is adding that to the total cost. And i think, commissioner scott, when we had talked about this in previous meetings, i believe weve always been very transparent that the cost would change if we did add the wheelchair gurney van service to this item. I know that it was an important part of the benefit. We did not have it in place to start, so the total cost that you saw for 2020 did not have that included in there. In an effort to really get this in place to start the benefits in 2020 while working towards this for 2021, and so i believe, though, from a total cost standpoint, this would be fairly comparable to what you would see in the marketplace to this type of a benefit. Vice president follansbee any follow up question, commissioner scott . Commissioner scott thank you. President breslin id like to ask, if i could, the wheelchair and the gurney, is that customary for people that provide transportation vendors that provide that . Ill ask my colleague, julie brady, to comment on im not sure if we have data on how common it is that we use those services. Julie, do you have that information with you today . Hi, this is julie brady. I do not have that information with me today. We can go back and ask Member Services for that information. President breslin im sure curious because many people say they get you out of the chair and put you in the regular chair and store your wheelchair. They dont put a whole gurney in a back, so if you have to put a whole gurney in a van or something, thats a whole different thing. Youre right. It absolutely is. Thats a specialized type of transportation, and it really is based on the needs. There are some cases where people cannot get out of the wheelchair and have that put into the trunk, and so it was important for us, and i know important for the board to have the complete benefit added for 2021, and were pleased to be able to do that. President breslin so youre anticipating 3 utilization for the meals . Yeah, thats what were using as our figures and what for working with the and we have the same provider that u. H. C. Does, and so based on information from them and what theyve seen from other health plans, thats how weve developed the rates. Important to note, this is a new benefit for us for 2021, so were using that information. Obviously, as we move forward, well be able to assess what our own utilization is and what the cost should be in the future. When i see these utilization figures and what they cost, it just seems like i just dont know how sometimes we can justify adding these benefits for such small usage, when everybodys paying for them and very few people are using them. I dont know. It just kind of [inaudible] president breslin its 10 , which i guess would be about 1300 people or so using them. Its quite a few, i suppose. Just, president breslin i didnt mean to discuss you. President breslin no, go ahead. The discussion that we were having previously about the meal service, it was a good discussion. This was a service that we looked forward to provide, and we look forward on reporting out to the board on what the usage of this is and how people like having specialized meals upon discharge. And also, we want to continue, should you continue with these benefits, all three of them, moving forward, its important to continue to work with executive director yant and her team, and weve had a lot of discussions about this, about how we can continue to make sure that communication is out there and getting retirees to use the benefits that are out there for them. They serve a purpose and theyre very important. President breslin and another question that came up, you get reimbursed for medicare for these benefits . We actually dont. I know that it can be very confusing. We can be allowed to offer these benefits, but they do not reimburse us any additional money when we offer these benefits. President breslin well, i think the big problem is excuse me. I think the big problem is with Medicare Advantage problems is lock of transparency because we lack of transparency because we dont know how much these vendors are getting reimbursed. Mike, correct me if i am wrong, but we dont know how much they get reimbursed from kaiser, from kaiser or United Health care. I know they look at a lot of things, but theres a lot of upcoding that goes on today. I know that for sure in United Health care, and so just maybe you can shed some light, if you think you know about these cases and how much theyre getting upcoded. Yeah. I can comment on what i see. United health care, we are provided with an underwriting sheet that lays out the total expected costs as well as what is expected to be reimbursed by c. M. S. Into the plan that produces the net rate that you approved earlier in this meeting. While we dont have exactly what the c. M. S. Is created in the United Health plan, we know what the estimated costs are on the estimated gross costs. Miss kessler, i would ask you to comment from the kaiser perspective. Yeah. Ill have my colleague, yolanda, comment on that, if you wouldnt mind, on the c. M. S. Reimbursement and setting our rates. Hi. This is marina from United Health care. So i would say the process was very similar to how mike described for United Health care, u. H. C. We go through a process where we get some preliminary notices from c. M. S. Regarding what they are looking at as far as anticipating reimbursements throughout the year, and as mike mentioned, we dont get that final notice of what reimbursements are going to be, really, until the fall late summer or fall. And then, we take that information which has a really similar process which calculates the expected reimbursements and then what our expected costs are based on the benefits that we are offering. What might be different between Kaiser Permanente and some of the other plans is that we do not experience greater use actually claims and developing rates. Were using the reimbursement as the basis, and then, the other benefits that we are offering that built up the Community Rate for the medicare plan. President breslin yeah, i understand that theres a rate, but if you present to medicare, thats an individual that has all these other health plans, and they reimburse you a lot more for that, and we have no idea how many people that could have been done with, and we have no way of knowing what you get for all of these actual individuals, right . Yeah, thats correct. They do do a risk adjustment based on how c. M. S. Looks at our overall population to determine the reimbursement that they supply to Kaiser Permanente, and we do include those assumptions in our Rate Development for the actual rates. And then thats presented to mike, correct, lorena . Yeah, thats correct, and then, if theres more information, we can help develop. President breslin is mike able to see how youre reimbursed maybe 500 people youre getting a lot more money for than some other 500 . Is that based on your book of business and not our specific population . Thats correct. President breslin but theres an update now, and medicare followed suit. But karen, if im understanding what the representative from kaiser just said this is commissioner scott, they are not looking at individuals, theyre looking at their whole book of business. Were not specialized in their population or predefined, were part of their whole book of business, and that is what they are presenting to medicare for reimbursement, not individuallybased claims. Its a communityrated process. Were rated as a community. Were not individually or, in our own right, evaluated on that basis. Vice president follansbee and this is commissioner follansbee. I can reiterate that, that that is, in fact, the case. I also want to be careful that no members of our board accuse either individual providers or health plans of upcoding. That is fraud. That is definitely fraud, and i can definitely excuse me. Let me take a quick drink of water and having been investigated for fraud by the state when i was accepting medicaid and found that i was not fraudulently billing, i know that d. H. S. Is very concerned about fraud, and as you alluded to, karen, they have actually gone after systems for fraudulent billing, so i dont think we should be in a position of accusing either u. H. C. Or kaiser of upcoding fraudulently, which is kind of the concern you were saying. My point is benefits are hard to approve once you take away them. Im a little concerned when we approve moms meals for u. H. C. A year ago, the price was 1. 01 per member per month, and kaisers going to charge us 1. 75. And i dont know what u. H. C. Now pays, but thats a huge increase in meals and with the same vendor. I dont quite understand what the difference is in services that will be provided to the Different Health plans. Likewise, were being now asked to subsidize silver and sick, and we have high utilization. 10 of our members, which i think is fantastic, but im wondering if kaiser has data because of the division of the research or whatever that shows in fact they have to charge more because its not really in our interest for members to be silver and fit; why were being charged for something in this cycle that we werent charged for in the other cycles. Yeah, kay kessler. Let me address the silver and fit and then well address the meals and the pricing. Silver and fit is what is charged by American Specialty Health to us, and we had, when we originally implemented this, as a special arrangement, you know, as starting out with the new benefit, we had offered that we would cover the cost for the first two years. We expanded that last year because the rate increase was so high already because of the reconciliation from the previous year, but we were very clear that we would need to begin charging for this. Again, were not reimbursed for. It is something that we pay directly to American Specialty Health, and its not based just on the rate usage of San Francisco. Again, its something that the members had asked for and wanted to be a part of this. And then, let me answer the meals and ill see what followup questions you have. The meals piece, when you look at it again, we worked with moms meals to look at what their experience has been with other health plans, but remembering that were an integrated delivery system, have the ability within our hospitals especially to make sure that this is really integrated with that discharge planning, we actually believe that usage may be slightly higher. Now well have to see. Again, this is a new benefit, but when our actuaries look at that, there may be a difference in pricing, but i have no idea what the cost of moms meals is for this year. Commissioner scott so to this point this is commissioner scott of discharge planning, i go back to my prior question of u. H. C. So how does that work with you folks . Again, youve got many people touching that person as theyre leaving the hospital, so how do you get kind of that prescription for this particular service to that individual . Yeah, no, great question. Julie, if you could walkthrough the process. Youve been great in putting this together in how our nurses will walkthrough the discharge orders with the discharge nurse . Yeah. Itll be part of our paperwork. The member will receive a call from the vendor. The vendor will figure out what kind of meals they want to be charged for, what kind of meals they want, and where they want them delivered to. So if they want the meals delivered to their daughters home, they can have them delivered there. If there is a special meal they need, thatll be able to be figured out. All of this will be figured into the discharge plan and customized for the member. Commissioner scott thank you. Sure. Vice president follansbee i just have one other question in that i remember very distinctly our concerns when the transportation benefit was added, that we were concerned about wheelchair access because Public Transportation allows anyone being transported in San Francisco through through muni to have wheelchair access. I dont think that we were necessarily addressing gurney access, but we now are being asked to cover both wheelchair and gurney. Do you have some estimate about how many the gurney portion of this contributes to this surcharge and how awere gurney patients being transported before and to what costs were they being subjected if this was not a benefit . Yeah, great question. I know that me and julie, we mentioned earlier, well have to go back for some of those numbers. I dont know, julie, if you can comment on the wheelchair, the van, gurney, it comes kind of as a specialized vehicle. Just julie, i dont want to assume, so if you could comment, and if we need to get back to commissioner follansbee, we can. Yeah, i think we might have to get back to him. I do know that they sort of do work hand and hand, but well have to go back to the vendor to find out about that. So we will follow up with the numbers, the percent, because it sounds like, just to be clear, you want to understand the percentage of the time that its actually gurney transportation since the conversation had been very much about wheelchair and van usage. Vice president follansbee yes, in part, because i think we realize given some of the stresses of our municipal transportation system, some users were having to change buses several times, stresses over scheduling, and it was really that population, the wheelchair users that seemed to be accommodated by Public Transportation when possible, but all of the benefits of the transportation rider werent being extended to them. The gurney rider, that didnt extend to them. They were never subject to delays or Public Transportation riders. Not that im trying to deny gurney patients transportation. Yeah, absolutely, and let us get you that information. I dont want to makeup numbers in any way, but i do believe that it is a combination to having both but not necessarily the focus on gurneys. Well get you the information. Commissioner zvanski this is commissioner zvanski. In working with some of my retired patients a few years ago who were kaiser patients, i learned a couple of things. One, not everybody has a wheelchair who folds into the trunk. Some of our members have electric wheelchairs or other devices, and so a van that drives up to take them has a ramp so that they can drive up that ramp and into the van and remain in their electric wheelchair or cart or whatever it is. So thats very different than the standard type cab or car that would come to pick up someone who doesnt need a wheelchair or is a wheelchair user with a chair that can fold up into the trunk. I dont know that theres a different charge for that, i just know that it was a different type of transportation. Lastly, when one of my colleagues was being sent from the Rehabilitation Center where kaiser placed him and needed to go back to kaiser for various tests and other appointments, it was an ambulance that was sent, and the member was charged separately for the ambulance ride both to and from his appointments as other kaiser facilities. He was in pacifica, so he was going to south city and San Francisco for different appointments, and he was charged the ambulance rate because i guess they transported him on a gurney and not on a wheelchair even though he was pretty ambulatory. It occurs to me that when we talk about gurney transport, it is this transportation versus ambulance, even a b. L. S. Ambulance, which is lower cost versus some of the other Transportation Options now available through Transportation Companies that contract with kaiser or other places. And those are just my observations for whatever theyre worth. Thank you. Commissioner scott this is commissioner scott. If theres no other comment, i am prepared to make a motion. Vice president follansbee go ahead. Commissioner scott i move that we take the suggestion of our actuary of the rate cards with the proviso that we will monitor the recommendation throughout the year. Second. Vice president follansbee now, well open it up to Public Comment. Clerk thank you, Vice President follansbee. One more time, were going to wait 30 second to allow those of us at home who are watching the feed on sfgtv to catch up to where we are. The 30 seconds will start now. All right, moderator, can we please have you open up the phone lines to see if theres any callers remaining. Operator you have one question remaining. Hello. My name is richard rossman, and about the transportation, when i had a Family Members discharged from a kaiser facility, we got the exact opposite information, saying that the gurney and wheelchair would be free, but if they can walk, kaiser wouldnt pay for it, so i dont this was in february. Second, since kaisers saving money on not building a new building in oakland, and they give money to the warriors and the san jose sharks, maybe they should use that money to build another post acute a post care facility so kaiser can be in charge of the patients post recovery, which i think they should be from the time of the surgery until the time they go home and not pass the buck to third parties. And lastly oh, the other thing is that i found out kaiser has an ombudsman. I never knew about that. I found out about that almost accidentally, and this notice should be placed in the hospital rooms and sent to our members, and this ombudsman has been helping me in my ongoing saga with kaiser. And i find the person very neutral, and i dont know why kaiser doesnt advertise this service. And finally, when after the rate study period, i hope Health Service board and kaiser can work on setting up an advisory committee. I think it would be good for our members with kaiser so we can meet and try to work out some of these problems that keep popping up. Thank you. Clerk thank you, mr. Rossman. Moderator, will you see if any other callers are on the line . Operator you have zero questions remaining. Clerk Vice President follansbee, this concludes Public Comment. Vice president follansbee thank you very much. So i now call for a vote on this item as proposed. All those in favor . All those opposed . Okay. It passes unanimously. Thank you very much. We can move onto item number 13. Clerk item 13 is a review and approval of Kaiser Permanentes multiregion retiree plan rates and premium contributions for plan year 2021. This is presented by mike clarke from aon. Commissioner scott excuse me. This is commissioner scott. I wanted to have through the president or acting chair, i wanted to have placed in the record that were going to monitor periodically these supplement c Supplemental Benefits that exist with u. H. C. That we now have with kaiser, so id just like to have that on record and get some sense of cost throughout the plan year. So im asking director yant to make note of that. Yes, ive noted that. Thank you, commissioner scott. Vice president follansbee thank you, as well. Commissioner scott im sorry to have interrupted. Vice president follansbee no problem. Move on now to item number 13. Mike clarke, aon, and my last presentation today will be to review the Kaiser Permanente 2021 multistate regional rates for early retirees and medicare retirees. Ill start with introduction, move quickly to the commentary on the rate actions, and move to the rate cards, to the recommendation for the board today. Next slide. Staff recommends that the Health Service board accept the kaiser multistate region plan premiums that are shown in the resulting rate cards and best material. It demonstrates current membership enrolled in each plan along with the total proposed kaiser rate actions from 2020 to 2021, the total expected annual premium for all three regions for this plans, approximately 942,000. You can see the distribution of covered lives across early retirees and dependents as well as medicare retirees and dependents and the rate change actions being proposed today. Increases for the washington region that are at or slightly below national trends, and decreases for the rates in northwest and hawaii regions. Next slide. In 2018, sfhss introduced a new set of kaiser plans for retirees living in certain geographies where kaiser plans are available. They are available in Washington State, the northwest, which is primarily the vancouver, washington and portland, oregon area, and hawaii. Next slide. The overall average rate changes that we reviewed earlier are 1. 7 decrease for early retirees and 0. 7 decrease for medicare retirees. When we set the total premiums, we also include the cost for the v. S. P. Basic vision plan premiums and the fhsb sustainability plan charge. And just a reminder that these rates are set early in the process, so any reconciliation to ultimate final 2021 rates will occur next spring. Next slide. And just a reminder that the rate cards in this document are for those who earn full employer contributions for Retiree Medical coverage based on the criteria listed on this page. There are also alternative levels of employer contributions or coverage with no employer contributions, depending on the retirees scenario. Next slide. So with that, we show the rate cards for starting with washington, the rates of the contributions similar to the format looked at earlier. Next slide. Here, you see the changes in rates focusing on the monthly retiree contribution changes at the top of the exhibit for early retirees on the left side, medicare retirees on the left side. Youll notice there is no required contribution for retirees and early retiree coverage and medicare only retiree coverage for any of the contribution plans. Next slide. These are the rate cards for the Northwest Region. Next slide. And the change in rates for the Northwest Region plans early retirees and medicare retirees. Next slide, and we finish with the rate card. Next slide, and the changes in rates. Next slide. So we go with our recommendation that the Health Service board approve the kaiser permanent say 2021 premium plan rates and regional rates for early retirees and medicare retirees. Vice president follansbee . Vice president follansbee mike, thank you very much. Lets open up the item for questions, comments from Board Members. Commissioner scott this is commissioner scott. In light of this extensive discussion we had on retiree supplement, what im talking about in terms of the enhancements, do these same programs apply to our retirees in this in these other regions . Id like to defer that question to a kaiser representative, please. Hi. Kate kessler, Kaiser Permanente. They do not all apply to the other regions. Julia, i want to confirm that that is correct. Yes. This is julie brady with Kaiser Permanente. Yes. Currently, these services are only offered in california. We are looking at expanding, but the regional footprint is much smaller than california. President breslin i just have an observation. Washington is, like, 1,940 a month for a family. Thats 23,000 a year. You know, i dont know who can afford that. That is really something, and the northwest is also really expensive. Im curious why hawaii would be so much less since hawaii is very expensive to live. They have a very high cost of living there, and im curious why hawaii would be so much less. Sorry. I was trying to get off mute. So i dont know the reason that the rate is so much different in hawaii, and im wondering if, lorena, if you have the information. I know these are very small early retiree populations. Many times, these are manually rated, and its not based on utilization at all, and its very much based on the rate usage in this area. I wonder if you can comment further. We would have to take this back and look at some Additional Information, but in general, it is manually rated and based off of the demographics, but there may be a different demographic between the members in washington than we have in hawaii, but wed have to look at that closer for you. Very small populations, as you saw, so they could be very different from one another. President breslin well, hawaii is 25 and washington is 16, so it couldnt be that much different. But very different people, so we dont know what the population is yet. President breslin this is something i think we should be looking at for the early retirees with dependents because im sure theres going to be more with all the things going on. Its getting almost unaffordable with them, and the same with blue shield in San Francisco. Its also in the bay area. Its, like, 16,000 a year or more. I dont know. Talk about that more later when you talk about the r. F. P. I look at these figures. I dont know that would be a quarter of peoples salary or more of some peoples salary. Yeah. The employer contributions from the city charter do provide for the full employer contribution for the retiree coverages only for these plans, both early retirees and medicare retirees. There is an employer contribution for the first dependent for the city charter, but the second and subsequent dependents receive no incremental contribution per the city charter. President breslin im talking about the employee and retiree and family, which may be one child in the house or something. Thats what the problem is. The Single Person in all categories is not that high across the board, but but that particular group is really, really vulnerable. Commissioner zvanski this is commissioner zvanski. Can i ask a question, as well im sorry, karen. Are you done . President breslin yes, i am. Commissioner zvanski id like to know first of all why if im not understanding, why the rates for washington overall are so much higher than every other place, and my understanding from actually coworkers who were from hawaii and went back to hawaii when they retired was that hawaii has that kaiser is sort of the state of hawaii plan or sort of the state coverage that is offered to everybody. So i would expect that whatever we contract would be probably rated with that group and would be a lot less, and i dont know if im understanding correctly, with all of these outofarea people, that they are all being rated individually, and so that means that in hawaii we would not get whatever the hawaii rates might be with the state of hawaii, but were being charged a separate rating based on the individuals that we have there, and id like clarification of that. But i do want to know why Washington State is so much higher than anywhere else. Yeah. So i will commissioner zvanski, ill comment on the hawaii rate as far as the estate plan, and this has nothing to do with the rate. The state of hawaii offers Kaiser Permanente as an option, and of course theyre rated according to their utilization, and thats a completely separate plan. And so we can get Additional Information on the details of the rating for hawaii versus the Washington State area. Again, these are each very small populations that are typically manually rated from for each of those areas, and we can certainly get Additional Information for you. And i do know the kaiser actuary shared with me before the meeting that specifically for Washington State, there was the recent acquisition that kaiser made of the cooperative Health Program in Washington State, and so there were some underwriting methodology changes for the 2021 plan year that drove that 6. 3 increase in the early retiree rate in the Washington State program, so the onetime adjustments, now that the underwriting is fully under kaiser and kaiser owned, so we would expect per the what the individual shared with me before the meeting that there would be a stabilization of that increase Going Forward before this oneyear adjustment in the underwriting. Commissioner scott through the chair, this is commissioner scott. To michael mike, at this point you did say these plans were Community Rated, all three . Thats correct. Commissioner scott so its not that theyre looking at our utilization per se and then coming up with a rate, theyre looking at their book of business or whole community, and were a part of that, correct . Correct, and certainly happy to ask the kaiser underwriter to speak of demographic adjustments or anything else that may happen within the Community Rating environment. Commissioner scott okay. Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. Go ahead, lorena, if you would like to comment on that piece of it. Yeah, so for these small populations, they would be manually rated, and so none of their utilization or experience would be included in the pricing of the rates because it would just be too volatile. One person going into a hospital in a population of 15 members could skew the utilization experiences or what it would look like. These are small populations, and theyre based on the demographics of a retiree population. So, for instance, if, in washington, you know, the population had an average age of 64 whereas in hawaii, it had an average age of 55, then you would see a difference in what that demographic factor would be. It would also be, to your point, president breslin, is that the mix and so one of the things that well take back and look at is exactly how many families, how many subscriber only contracts we have, and then how that is impacting the rates because that can also have an impact in implications and development to the rates, as well. Commissioner scott so for the record, maybe one of the things that he we h things we need to and this is to director yant maybe get some information on the group rating and individual rating processes, and we can have our actuary weighin on that as we go to an education session later this year. Vice president follansbee any other questions or comments from the commissioners . If not, ill entertain a motion regarding this recommendation. President breslin did we have Public Comment . Vice president follansbee until we have a motion thats passed, i cant have for Public Comment. Once i do, ill ask for Public Comment. Commissioner scott this is commissioner scott. I move we accept the recommendation of the actuary as outlined in his presentation and summarized on page 24 with the underlying rate cards for the kaiser plans that are in multistate regions. Second. Vice president follansbee okay. Its been moved and seconded that we approve that recommendation. Now well open it up for Public Comment. Clerk thank you. Another reminder that were going to wait 30 seconds for the public to catch up to where we are now. That 30 seconds will start now. Commissioner zvanski while were waiting, this is commissioner zvanski, seeing that we now have, i guess its two more categories of retirees, the january 9, 2009, and the january and then Going Forward, the january 10 hires, and i know it adds to the rate cards, but im used to seeing rate cards that had about five different options on them, on one specific card way back before it was aon hewitt, but it would be nice to see those rates, as well, so that we could have rate cards that show us what those retirees are costing and what they would be paying outofpocket and compared to the previous year. I would really appreciate it. And lastly, i just want to understand with mike that these individuals that are being rated in the multistate, you said they were getting the full the full, i guess, supplement, so this is the tencounty theyre not getting the difference between the tencounty map and the full cost of the plan as we have in our other Medicare Advantage plans that are then passed on through employee plus one and family rate, correct . Yeah, the employer contributions are developed, you know, first for the single tier based on looking at the plan costs, as well as the other features of the formula, and then, the subsidy contribution applies to that first dependent. Commissioner zvanski right, right. So what im seeing in the rate cards that thats the difference between the two costs, and its not the full tencounty amount, it looks like. Based on the calculations, thats correct. Commissioner zvanski thank you. Clerk thank you, and i just want to remind you, commissioners, the reason we have a 30second pause so the people at home who are experiencing a delay in presentations can actually catch up before to hear presentations before we move into Public Comment. So i would request that we use that 30 seconds for silence. Moderators, can you please open up the call line for me . Operator you have zero questions remaining. Clerk Vice President follansbee, that concludes Public Comment for this item. Vice president follansbee so id like to go ahead and open up this item for a vote. All in favor of the recommendation and to approve the Kaiser Permanente 2021 multistate regional rates for early retirees and medicare, please signify by saying aye. Anyone opposed . Its unanimous. Thank you very much. This concludes the rates and benefits section of the meeting. We now open up the meeting to the regular meeting. Id like to remind the Board Members that and the public that number one, we have three very important items, one of which is an action item, but wed like to see if we can move through the rest of this agenda, including the action item, in the time we have remaining. So im going to call for item number 14. Clerk yes, no problem. Item 14 is the directors report. This report is given by abbie yant, the executive director. Good afternoon, commissioners. Thank you very much. Due to the lateness of the hour, i wont spend a lot of time going over the directors report in your packet. I anticipate there may be some questions about a few of those items, so i just wanted to highlight in the report that the Health Service system continues to operate in a virtual environment very much like we are today and do not have any plans of opening to the public any time soon. Were preparing our health and safety plan to be submitted to the City Administrators Office which outlines under very restrictive guidelines how we mail out some additional personnel into the office on very specific focuses and schedules. All persons will have to selfcertify as to their wellness, where they anyone whos ill will not be allowed to report in to work. Many more details on that, should anyone need that, they can talk to mitchell or myself. The also, i acknowledge the we have on our ongoing Strategic Plan for the Health Service system, addressing the social determinants of health. We talked a little bit about that through the transportation and yield discussions that were quite robust, though we do need to have a conversation about the impact of race on health and health outcomes, and we will be doing that again in the second half of the year where were looking more closely at our data and how we can support our members whose health is related to their rates and how we may be able to Work Together to improve the health of our membership. I also want to ask, after several years of postponing the decision, that we will proceed with doing a competitive bid for our medical plans, and that is officially, as of today, this is the Public Notice that we will be doing that. We have included in the directors report a memorandum to that effect admonishing each of the commissioners and advising on what your communications cannot be can and cannot be with anyone who we are currently doing business with or who is potentially bidding on the plans. I will note that we should call that a blackout notice, being se sensitive to the situation that exist in all of our communications. I reworded that to a communications notice. The impact of covid on our membership and being seen through the plan claim utilization is just now starting to come in, and we hope, again, in future months, to be able to report back to you, as you. As i think all of you are aware, San Francisco as well as the bay area has done a good job in suppressing the wave of the covid, but as things open up, there may be outbreaks and clusters of covid that occur, and so the Health System is certainly more ready than it had been to accommodate the care needs of persons infected with the covid virus. But at this point, the problem has, at least as we understand it, has been an underutilization which has been spoken to several times today. As we continue to get these measures to work with our health plans, we will be reporting back to this board. I did want to move into the quickly into the fact that we do have some folks that are going to be able to retire this year, and so i just wanted to recognize of our staff that came to the city from blue shield in 1991 and has really carried a great institutional memory and has been a stalwart advisor in our Member Services area. We wish her well. Shes had nearly 30 years of service and has been a pleasant woman to work with. Anabelle perr began her career in 1980 at the School District, and then she moved around a bit and ended up in City Services where she is a member benefit analyst. She has a lot of compassion for our members, as well, and has been a stalwart member of Member Services. With that, i would like to say i wish both of these women well in retirement, and we will be looking to fill those positions in order to serve our membership. I also wanted to acknowledge the work that we continue to do in i think really important ways of collaborating with Public Safety agencies, with the health department, with the department of Human Resources and many others in bringing wellbeing with a focus on Mental Health to the workforce today. It certainly has been an issue for us that weve wanted to delve into deeply for several years now, and the crisis has afforded us the opportunity to really dig deeply into Mental Health issues and bring tools and work closely with these with many departments, so with him beings, like many of us in this new covid world, has been incredibly adaptive and creating in finding new ways to work with our partners throughout the city. So i think with that, ill close, cause many of the other things smile way have been mentioned in this lengthy meeting today. Let me just pause there and see if there are any questions or comments from the commission. I just got a message that someone was trying to call in on 13, and they said there was no Public Comment, so please check the line. She said there were a couple other people in line to get on, too. Clerk yes. Were they pushing onezero to get added to the queue . President breslin i dont know. It just said there was no Public Comment. Vice president follansbee no, no, that item is closed. President breslin no, i was just saying that they were trying to get in. Maybe something was wrong with the system. I have a couple of questions about the r. F. P. Its going to be for actives only and early retirees, not kaiser, of course, but what ive heard is i know you had the focused group, and a lot of members saying they want more choices more choices besides blue shield, and maybe blue shield and somebody else because without any competition for blue shield, prices can do whatever they want to do there. More choice and more competition is always good. Also, the city plan, in order to make that viable again, youre going to have to open it up to all members. It just doesnt seem right to separate our members for these different plans. I looked around at the ten counties, all the ten almost all except two didnt have a p. P. O. , and some of them had two p. P. O. S for sure. And then, i noticed the county with the fewest selections, which was santa clara, was the highest across county. So it just seems that we need more choices, not just to take away one and get another one. More choices. And then, early retiree with family death, they need to find something it seems they need to find something more affordable for that group because its just getting unaffordable, especially with blue shield. And the city plan isnt working either, because of the medicare people being taken out of there. And then, i dont know if the board did the board personally weighin on this r. F. P. And what they would like to see or was it just the focus group . This is commissioner zvanski. I have a question, as well, through the chair. Vice president follansbee wait. Were still waiting for a response to that question. You were muted, i believe. No, ive been actively listening to this board for 2. 5 years, karen, and weve had a number of sessions dedicated specifically to this. So i did hear what youre saying. I would like the one comment that i would like to make, though, is we are not including in this competitive bid the medicare business. It would be too much for us to be able to take that on, and the disruption to the entire population would be almost impossible to manage. So we are focused this year on the medical plans for the active and early retiree populations. President breslin so no p. P. O. In sight for the medicare population . Were not addressing the medicare populations this time around. Vice president follansbee commissioner zvanski, you had a question or a comment . Commissioner zvanski yes, thank you, dr. Follansbee, i do. I hate to admit this, but in the boxes that i have at home from previous r. F. P. S, god knows why i saved them, or even brought them home i guess they were delivered or whatever. The r. F. P. S that went out previously always included the medicare, and it was only during dr. Dodds administration that somehow blue shield was given the exemption of carving out medicare business, and that somehow that then became a different kind of structure, and i dont recall it. I dont know i really dont know if i was on the board at the time or it was after, but that was the first time that any of the vendors that provided Health Benefits was allowed to carve out medicare, the medicare population. And so im just pointing out that i think it was the charter language that required us to include also that any vendor that did business with us had to provide coverage across the board which included medicare. And maybe it was changed in prop c. I dont know, but i think we need to check the charter on that issue to make sure that we are in compliance with that r. F. P. Abbie, i hear you absolutely that this would be rather overwhelming for the staff, and its not my intent to add that, but i just want us to have a consistent policy with consideration to everyone and that were not out of compliance with our charter r. F. P. Thank you. President breslin i just wanted to make another comment on the health and safety issue. My hope is that we can get back to a normal inperson Board Meetings in the near future and not a year from now, im hoping, because it is much more difficult for members to weighin on these meetings, and someone called in to the board of supervisors the other day and was really describing how difficult it was for them because they had a bit of a handicap. And like i said, some peoples dont even have computers. So i know that you dont even have control over that, but im hoping that this isnt going to be another 12 months for that sort of thing. Yeah. I do know that we will be drewingdre introducing a different platform for doing these meetings. Is that webex that were exploring . Yeah, were looking at different options. Commissioner scott this is commissioner scott. I would recommend that you also include go to meeting in that list of possible vendors, but i wanted to raise a question about the Steering Committee, abbie, on the social determinants of health. It is my hope as youre working through this process that we will have some early engagement by this board in looking at the some of the stuff the Steering Committee will be looking at so we are in sort of a parallel track in terms of taking a wider view of this issue as we are considering various policies per medical plan designs, etc. , Going Forward. I recognize that youre in the early phases of this, but im hoping that theres some interactivity with the board around this issue so that that will feedback to the Steering Committee and vice versa. Much appreciated. Thank you. President breslin when youre talking about other types of meetings, youre not talking about inperson . Commissioner scott no, im talking about other president breslin im asking abbie about the other types of meetings. Commissioner scott i understand that. I thought we were finished about that topic. I was talking about another topic, social determinants. President breslin i understand that. I think i can handle that. One is we will work under whatever the city standard is for public meetings. I understand the options are changing, and well let you know more when we know more. Be aware that we may be doing Something Different in august, and i have not heard any discussion about no longer doing virtual public meetings. When i do, i will be sure to let you know. And then, on the social determinants of health Steering Committee, its kind of a different meeting. Commissioner scott, because were developing we have wanted to do this when we got sort of diverted with covid, but we hired derek and marina, and then, youve met leticia, our other facilitator, and carrie and beshears on the wellbeing team, particularly challenged with Mental Health and the different issues that relate to Mental Health and how services are accessed and delivered. And then, marina, of course, being our data guru and myself as sort of leading off this exploration as how we look at social determinants of health because one of the things that is not written a lot about in any of the Major Research on social determinants is the impact of work as a determinant of health, and so we are looking Robert Johnson has recently let out a request for proposals to look at that very issue, so theres a lot going on that were just trying to get our hands around what kind of approaches or what our universe might be, and so certainly to involve and have conversations with yourself and other Board Members will be very appropriate. Vice president follansbee i have one other comment, and then im going to close this item, and that is that the comment about transitioning to medicare, Social Security in their processes that they handle backlog, i appreciate that we are going to adhere to the members rules, i wonder in august if we could have a report of denials of members who werent able to transition to medicare for one reason or another compared to other years . Because i am quite nervous about the communications that have come from the federal government agencies, not just the h. H. S. Over this period of time. So i want to make sure that we havent denied members access transition to medicare. If we could do that in august or september. Yeah, we could take a look at that because it is an issue on a regular basis, let alone in the covid world, so would be happy to take a look at that, and certainly at how we look at helping people transition to retirement is something we looked at thats a big area of concern. Fran frankly, its something that nobody looks at, and then, they see it, and they have a lot of questions. Vice president follansbee so if there are no other comments or questions from the board, id like to open this up for Public Comment. We will respect the 30second rule before we go to Public Comment. We have two other important items, so if we can keep mindful of the time and the fact that we have two important issues, as well, to issue, one of which is an action item, so im going to turn this over to open this up for Public Comment. Commissioner zvanski dr. Follansbee, this is clare zvanski. I just have one important question. In monitoring the retirement board, there was a new order from the Mayors Office that their office is staying closed for a full year, and im wondering if Health Service has received any kind of further direction from the Mayors Office, and if this would be the place to include that . And also, i just noticed how they have their Board Meeting rooms where two staff people and the president of the commission were actually in their Board Meeting rooms while they were doing the virtual meeting, so i dont know if thats an option for us to consider in the future. But im most concerned about the Mayors Office statement and that office being closed for a year because theres so much that Health Service does with regard to retirement and vice versa. Thank you. And now, im quiet. Commissioner hao this is commissioner hao. I would really appreciate it if our colleagues would help us move along with the agenda. The hour is really late. Thank you. Clerk thank you, commissioners. Were going to start the 30 seconds now, and for those on the phone lines, please press onezero to be add to the queue. If you are listening on the conference line, you will not be added to the queue until you press onezero. The 30 seconds starts now. Thank you. Okay. Moderator, will you please open up the Public Comment line for the first caller . Operator you have zero questions remaining. Clerk Vice President follansbee, that concludes Public Comment for the directors report. Vice president follansbee thank you very much. Well close this item and move onto item number 15 then. Clerk yes. Item 15. The San Francisco Health Service system revised fiscal year 2020 through 2021 and fiscal year 2021 through 2022 proposed general Fund Administration budget. This presentation is done by pamela levin, the chief financial officer. Vice president follansbee before we begin, i just want to remind the Board Members that this is a critically important issue that we are about to hear, so we need to devote our attention to pamela. The discussion from the Mayors Office seems to change periodically, and so this is a moving target, and the success of our Health Service system relies on our ability to meet the financial constraints but also meet the demand for services which will only increase in these periods of stress, so pamela, please proceed. Good afternoon. Pamela levin, chief financial officer, Health Service system. The item before you is the revised proposed general Fund Administration budget for 2021 and 2122 for your approval. I want to note that this differs from the one that was originally sent to you because of some changes in the direction from the Mayors Office that occurred early this week. Next slide. The city now faces a deficit of 1. 7 billion over the budget horizon due to losses associated with the pandemic. For comparison, the twoyear deficit in february is 420 million. A recovery is not expected for four years. In may, the mayor issued revised budget instructions to try to close that deficit. Departments are now required to submit a revised budget with mandatory Budget Reductions. For 2021, the planned mandatory Budget Reduction is 10 , and for 2021, the mandatory Budget Reduction is 15 . In addition, departments are required to submit a 5 contingency plan for 2021 totaling 180,325, but this may not be implemented. It depends on if the budget projections, if they worsen. As further reductions, we are to stream line positions, consolidate b consolidate costs. Departments are to determine which serves are to be delivered in person or if they can be delivered remotely and to look at increasingly how technology can be used to provide services online. Page 2 next slide. So when we looked at the budget, we tried to do everything we could to balance it with the mandatory and make the mandatory guidelines and also maintain our position authority. Initially because there was a hiring freeze that started in march, the only positions that were critical to the operations would be approved by the mayor to fill. What we needed to do is rather than having positions actually eliminated, we increased our atrition for those positions that we knew we wouldnt be able to fill. Thisll be a combination of the natural occurring attrition because people are leaving or retiring, and the attrition because we wont be able to fill positions because of the freeze. Next slide. This slide shows the 2021 revised budget side by side with the Budget Approved in february before the pandemic. As you can see, the reduction targets are being met by increasing attrition and decreasing nonpersonal services while maintaining the increased funding levels that we requested in february as much as possible. Funding for materials and supplies is increasing at the same level as requested in february, and no reductions are proposed for work orders. The reduction that you do see in the line for onsite activities and a reduction in the line for contracts, we moved the funding because we knew that its unlikely that well be able to do inperson activities in 2021, so this funding will be rolled in and be able to use it for additional mental Health Programs. Were also cutting more than whats required in the first year so that we can partially fund the expanded Employee Assistance programs that we added in april that consisted of a 247 e. A. P. And a direct responder Mental Health application. Next slide. When it came time for the contingency plan, we looked at areas that would be occurring in 2021. Since the budget would not be approved until october, and all the expenses have to be approved by june, that reduction partial reduction of the grants is on the contingenci contingency plan. In addition, the instructors for rec and park is cut for 2021 because we do not think that inperson classes will be possible due to social distancing requirements. Next slide. This slide shows the 202122 proposed budget side by side with the budget that was approved by the board in february. In order to meet the mandatory reductions, attrition is increased like in the prior years. Funding for nonpersonal services is reduced, again, while trying to retain the increases that were proposed in february as much as possible. Materials and supplies are increased at a much lower level than what was approved in february. Funding for the work orders for the Fitness Instructors is reduced by 37 , with the anticipation of some inperson classes being possible in february 2122, and we have also reduced the work order with the City Attorneys Office to reflect the prior years expenditure levels. Finally, the main proposed budget will be released to the board of supervisors on august 1. The budget hearings are in august, and the board will approve the budget in september, and the mayor will sign the budget on october 1. This budget is extremely difficult to put together, and its going to be quite a challenge to negotiate with the Mayors Office and the board budget analyst because of, you know, the fact that were not in the office and there are expenses that may be viewed as being discretionary, that we may differ in that viewpoint. Ill be glad to answer any questions. Vice president follansbee so are there any questions for pamela levin . Commissioner scott this is commissioner scott. Pamela, i want to say that i commend you and your team for what i know has been a difficult week or more in putting this information together. I think that you have identified, based on my Prior Experience with some of the budgets that we submitted, areas where reductions could be made. While painful, but if its under a mandatory framework, we hope theyll have minimal impact while continuing to support our members as well as continuing to do the ongoing business of the system. So thank you for what youve done, and to the degree, as was said earlier in the meeting, that if, indeed, there is some level of interfaces that we as individual Board Members can support you and abbie as we go forward with this process, i would stand ready to do that, so thank you. One last thing id like to point out as i mentioned in the beginning, there is a recovery down the road. Theyre expecting it will be in four years. It may be a little longer, and at that point in time, wed still have the positions that we could fill, although, you know, were in all of us are in kind of a a new way of looking at our work and but still providing the Necessary Service to our members. Vice president follansbee are there other comments . Id just like to also thank you very much for this report and also remind those the public but also our Board Members that this time will be increasingly stressful for all San Francisco employees, and weve already seen some evidence of some members of some departments sort of not being very supportive of members of other departments, and therell be increased stress for those employees who are continuing to work and trying in good faith to handle their jobs, and that includes our own hss staff. And so this is not a time for us to pull back on the Mental Health options that we can do to support other departments and other employees of the city and county of San Francisco as well as our other contracted employers. Any other comments . So ill i guess this is an action item. Do we need to approve the report as youve submitted it or whats the action that we need . The action is to approve the budget as submitted for the department to submit the budget to the Mayors Office tomorrow. Commissioner scott commissioner follansbee, ill make the following motion this is commissioner scott. I move that we accept and instruct the departmental c. F. O. That we accept the budget as proposed and forward this to the appropriate city authorities. Commissioner hao this is commissioner hao. I second that motion. Vice president follansbee so its been approved and seconded that we approve the current budget as outlined by pamela levin today to be forwarded to the Mayors Office tomorrow. I would now like to halt conversation from the Board Members and open up the line for Public Comment. Clerk thank you very much, Vice President follansbee. Were going to put a 30second pause on conversation for people at home watching this meeting to catch up to what we have just discussed. That 30 seconds starts now, and i want to remind callers, if you are dialing in, please press onezero to shabe added the queue. Thank you. Clerk okay. Moderator, can you open up the line for Public Comment . Operator you have no questions remaining. Clerk okay. Commissioner follansbee, Public Comment is closed. Vice president follansbee okay. On the motion to move the budget to the Mayors Office, all in favor . Opposed . Lets go into item 16. Clerk item 16 is the infert willi infertility benefit status update for blue shield of california, presented by shawn lovering. I would be remiss if i did not think, on behalf of did not thank, on behalf of blue shield, natalie, for all of her work and support. We are going to miss you. Next slide. Next slide. So were here today to give you an update on our efforts around infertility. It was brought to our attention last year that there were some issues, and were going to bring to your attention that we can fix things. [inaudible] when they added the Custom Benefits that you see on the right. Next slide. So we did a ton of research when this was brought to our attention, and we identified the following areas where we had gaps. Benefit authorization and identification process. We understand that infertility is a prepersonalize very personalized and very difficult process to go through, so we had to adjust our authorization timelines to better fit the challenges proposed by receiving infertility treatments to extend those. [please stand by]. As i mentioned before, we pulled all the previous denials for inFertility Services, rereviewed them. We also created access for members to a dedicated internal subject Matter Expert for assistance in navigating the matter with our patients. We have put in an endtoend process and oversight for every infertility request that comes in. In addition, we have created a more friendly overview of the Fertility Services available to sfhss members and put that on the sfhss microsite. Next slide. Access to meds. This, as you know, was an area that was brought up to be very difficult to navigate. [please stand by] so that the members have additional options when it comes to getting their fertility meds that are allows them to use their insurance and is easy to access and timely for them. We anticipate that these new contracts should be in place by november and we certainly will come back and update you on that item at the november Board Meeting. Are there any questions around what we identified, what we have corrected . And Going Forward how this will work for members . Lets open up the discussion now to the members of the board. Any comments or questions . This is commissioner. And looking at this presentation i see only one picture that points out a nonheterosexual couple. I think in your materials it would be nice to have a few more depictions of alternate family groups so that its not quite as heterosexual oriented. I think that is especially important for a number of members of our Health Services system membership. Thank you. Thank you, thats a point well taken. And on the on the website the information that we uploaded there we have certainly were focused on making it extremely culturally compassionate for all members. So if you take a look at that i think that you will find that we did achieve that. Other questions or comments . I have a couple. One is that, you know, its pretty i think that you covered from the beginning of the of this benefit in the beginning of 2018, so we had more than a 30 denial rate which looks to me, except for the few individuals that were not covered benefits were reversed. Over the two years now, 2 1 2 years, you know, thats a long time for people who are trying to undergo fertility. And i dont know that its not germane for what youre doing for future, but theres a significant fallout for the individuals who were inappropriately denied coverage. Im just kind of curious to know if you can maybe in three months or so to provide some followup information to those 58 individuals who were denied the service inappropriately. The way that i understand your presentation. The other thing is that the pharmacy benefit item is still very real and the information that we have been provided by obstenostensibly from a member o resourced this considerably, is that like a lot of pharmacy benefit systems or companies, that theres a very complex interrelationship between these companies and the providers. The pharmacy is now been brought out by express scripts. Express scripts is now a subsidy of cigna insurance. And i think that theres some concern that maybe cvs or walgreens are trying to buy it, but theres now cigna. And so my understanding now is that the decisions and the relationships and the reimbursement and the price setting now is under the auspices, frankly, of another Insurance Company cigna. So i think that this is opening up a hornets nest in terms of pricing for all of these specialty drugs. I know that they specialize in drugs that have to be administered intravenously, and it can be administered by the members themselves. But there may be other drugs. So i point this out because this is an issue not resolved for this benefit and i think that it deserves our look at it more carefully for all of our contracts that involve this kind of a pharmacy benefit company, a forprofit company, where our members are paying outrageous amounts of money for drugs that are accessible to them in other ways. Yes, thank you. And i think that is exactly why, you know, we are seeking additional contracts with other providers at this time. You know, the way that the benefit is currently set up, the drugs are paid under the medical plan and not the pharmacy plan. Because the fact that there are injectable drugs. But for infertilities theyre paid under the medical plan. So we are working with our partner, cvs, to secure additional providers and access for members and looking at reaching out to different specialty pharmacies in San Francisco to secure contracts with them to have additional opportunities for members. I think that its important that the members have, you know, other options to for when they go to access their drugs. And so that is a point well taken. Thank you. Just, again, to reiterate some of the points that have been made in multiple discussions, about the competition may be a good thing in this regard. Yes. I think that youre right. So other comments from any of the other commissioners . If not, id like to go to the period of silence where we open up to comments from our members. Thank you very much. At this point everyone at home who is watching and or on the conference line, please be sure to press 1, 0 after you have dialed into the conference line to ensure that youre put into the queue. We will start the 30 seconds of pause right now. Moderator, please up the public line for the callers. You have zero questions remaining. Clerk that concludes Public Comment on this item. Thank you very much. I believe that this concludes the discussion on this item. The agenda is that everyone had access to to eliminate some of the items that we normally have during the open times with comments on the health plans and other items. So with that its been a long meeting and ill entertain a motion to adjourn. Mr. Scott i wanted to thank the doctor for taking over for me. This is commissioner scott. I would thank karen and you for the way that youve conducted this meeting today. And with that i move that we adjourn. Second. May i remind my members that a motion is not required for adjournment. The chair merely indicates that the motion that the meeting is adjourned and thats all. You dont need a second either. Thank you very much, but i wanted everyones concurrence with this. [laughter]. Thats the spirit that i offered it, commissioner. Thank you very much. Thank you for all of your presentations and the meeting is now adjourned. Good afternoon. This is the ann moeller case caen. Im the president of the San Francisco Public Utilities commission. I would like to call this to order. Towe. role call . We have a quorum. Could you please read the announcement. Dont to you covid19 Health Emergency and given the Public Health regulars issued by the San Francisco department of Public Health, they have lifted restrictions. This meeting is held Via Teleconference and held by s sfg tv. Please be aware theres a brief lag time between what is being viewed on sfgtv. I would like to extend our thanks to the staff for the assistance of this meeting. If you wish to make Public Comment on an item dial 888 2733658, access code 3107452 and pound followed by pound again. Dial 10 to be added to the speaker line and you will hear an automated voice that when tell you when its your turn to speak and your twominute speaking time will begin. These instructions will be repeated. If they havent done so, ill ask the commission and staff to mute their microphones to minimize background noise. Your first order of business is approval of the minutes of may 26th, 2020. Commissioners, before you, you have the minutes of may 26th, 2020. Are there any corrections or discussion on the minutes . Hearing none, madam secretary, could you please open to Public Comment . Anyone in the public who wishes to make a comment on may 26th, 20 dial 888 2733658, access code 3107452 and pound followed by pound again. Dial 10 to be added to the speaker line and i would like to remind everybody, this item is for approval of the minutes. Nowdo we have any callers . There are no callers in the queue. Approval of the minutes is closed. May i have a motion and a second on the minutes approval . Approval. Second. Can you take a role call vote. role call . I think youre muted, commissioner. Commissioner maxwell, your microphone is muted. Maybe raise your hand. Commissioner maxwell, at the top, youll see four buttons and one looks like a small microphone, tap it once to unmute. Perhaps while were working that out, could you give us a thumbs up or thumbs down to approve . , yeah, i couldnt see you ad it went blank and i couldnt communicate or see you. Im back. How do you vote on the minutes . Yes, aye. Commissioner paulson. Aye. Thank you, we have five ayes. The motion carries. Next item, please. Madam president , item 4 is general Public Comment and member of the public may address the commission on matters within the commissions jurisdiction and are not on todays agenda by dialing 888 2733658 and access code 3107452 and pound followed by pond again. Dial 10 to be added to the speaker line. Mr. Moderator, do we have callers . There are multiple callers in the cue. Queue. You have four questions remaining. Commissioners, my name is francisca depasta and today i want to talk about blatant racism. I viewed the funeral of george floyd and it brings memories of the discrimination that we are witnessing in district 10. 10, blatant discrimination. indiscernible . Even as im speaking, you dont have your act together because im hearing funny sounds on the system. Anyway, ill be watching the presentations and giving my comments on what you perceive being the best interests of the community and what i perceive to be the best interests of the community because i have a track record attending most of your meetings and witnessed the shenanigans. Thank you very much. Operator you have three questions remaining. Question thank you, chair. indiscernible . Question just briefly, the work of this commission, in the era of covid19 i hope it will pass sooner rather than later and want us to continue to play the long game aspirational goals. Recently it was started at forming a municipal utilitys district and i support this commission being not only a purveyor of generation of clean electricity, but to become an operator of infrastructure. I am concerned about high electric rates in San Francisco and i know that you as a commission are doing your part to help. By offering valued propositions for generations. I ask your continued advocacy in being able to be involved in the delivery side of the house, as well, because the public process that you afford will be able to help to reduce the electric rate in San Francisco. Gun, again, i ask for your contd advocacy as you continue the work in bringing clean, greener and less expensive power to San Francisco. Thank you. Operator you have two questions remaining. Question hello, commissioners. Thank you for allowing me to speak with you today. My name is elaine challenger. Im a member of the san m matteo bike council and we have had many discussions about the problem and possible solutions im going to discuss today. And last year, the san matteo board of supervisors requested a grand januaryery repor jury repe gravity of the problem. They agreed something needs to be done. Here is the setup. Beautiful open space, sunny views of the reservoirs and hills, a relatively safe path on sawyer camp trail and kinata road and a hell hole of cars trying to pass between k irinata road where cyclists are expected to travel with cars at high speeds along highways. On top of that, cyclists cross merging traffic and a gravel shoulder. Cyclists are hit frequently. On may 1st, i witnessed a cyclist hit and the worst thing for me was this collision was predictable and it will happen again and again until we fix this problem. So here is my ask, the pc has existing roads on the land surrounding lower skyline 9 92 d kinata road that would give cyclists a safe path. Im asking you to allow access to connect skyline to kinata road. There are land use issues and a greater need now to accommodate the rising number of cyclists. You can reach me at saferbikelanes icloud. Com and the san matteo bpack invites to our next virtual meeting. Thank you so muc much. Operator you have one question remaining. Question good afternoon, commissioners. This is peter dreckmeyer. There was a new rule that will gut the states for the Water Quality certifications. My opinion, this is the worse attack of many from the Trump Administration on californias quality of life. But right now, california desperately needs agencies leak the sf puc to stand up to trump. February 25th, commissioner vitor opposed the Trump Administrations buy love cal bl administration for the delta. Thank you. Youve been a great leader. Three and a half months have passed and still nothing has come back to the commission. Please step up on the vital issues. Today i ask you to not just oppose the latest epa rule of degradation to our environment but to sue the Trump Administration. This would send a clear message. I hope you will agendaize agends for your next meeting. Operator you have one question remaining. Question im a resident of san matteo. Its reported my citys average use is 86 gallons of water per person and in contrast, San Francisco is 46 gallons per day. According to the integrated information system, the bay area is in a moderate drought. But even though theres ample storage, usage will be high this year. Especially at a time when delta water levels are not repennished, for the habitat to sustain part of our economy such as salmon, theres a lot of room for better water management. So the focus on the specific opportunity, i would like sf puc to be working with wholesale buyers to show them best practises and improve water demand management. Sf puc Water Conservation is not what we see down here. We should all come together on this and communicate that its a better that its a Community Priority to manage water better and why. But sf puc needs to be the main driver on that. Thank you. Thank you. There are no more callers in the queue. Public comment on item 4 is closed. Madam secretary, could you please read the next item. Madam president , the next order of business is item 5, communication. Commissioners, any comments on communications . Madam president , a couple items. Last meeting, commissioner maxwell ask about a request i made of staff to develop a water budget work sheet. Ive provided a repan an expanso the commission and i wanted to say if anyone wanted a copy, if you contact the commission secretary, shell be glad to send them a copy. The other comment is on 5d, the alternate water supply quarterly report. Number one, i thought it was an excellent report. This presented a thought process behind it and i thought that was very positive an positive and u. The take away for me on that, theres a table on page 4 of the report that its a pie chart and basically says that in a worse case scenario, what we would be looking for is 100 mgd of supply and we have identified about 75. And those are very round numbers, leaving about 25 mgd with no identified solutions at this point. So in terms of responding to commissioner vietors request about what do if we had to meet the requirements of the delta plan, were short on that and we need to identify additional projects of that at least in theory might help bridge that gap. But again, i thought it was very positive. On the water budget, this kind of goes hand in glove with that report and i would also hope that, perhaps, by as early as the next meeting, we could have something to show in that respect. Thank you. Now. Commissioner, could you other commissioners have copies of the additional thoughts you had, the personal point that you made . That has already been distributed to the commission by the commission secretary. Its fairly brief, about two or three perhaps and it has a narrative and theres to numbers involved on it, but it does lay out the basic thought process i was looking for. This was briefed but very well done and you could understand it, so thank you. Through the chair, i also appreciated the effort that went into the report. Id like to request, especially because of commissioner morans interest in leadership on the water supply budget work i dont know what it looks like, but at the next meeting, so that its not just in communications but some kind of workshop so that we can dialogue and ask questions of staff if need be, especially when commissioner moran is a little further along in his thoughts and maybe already now, but i feel like that is a better way for me to kind of digest and process, to actually have a presentation, have someone kind of walk us through the highlevel points and to say that it looks like theres a 25 mgd delta, what do we do about it or what have you . Any other comments on the subject . Mr. Kelly, could you comment on 5f, which is your report on contracts . This is the first time its being present aske and presentee to draw attention to the report that is in communications. Yes, so 5f is a report of all of the contracts that are delegated, that you have delegated under my authority to approve. In the act of transparency, we wanted to provide a list of contracts and they hav who theyn awarded to and bring that out so everyone can see all of the activities that have been delegated to me and not go to the commission. So thats the purpose of the report. Were going to submit this quarterly so that you can keep track of all of the contracts that we have let out under my authority. So thats what the purpose of this report is, is to increase transparency. Is that mean to say, ann, or do you need mor . Yes, yes, so well be seeing this quarterly and well be seeing it under communications. You certainly didnt do much between january and march. [ laughter ] oh, dear. Any other comments by the commissioners on communications . Could you please open this to Public Comment . Members of the public who wish to provide comment on item 5, communications, dial 888 2733658 and access code 3107452 and pound followed by pound again. Dial 10 to be added to the speaker line. Mr. Moderator, do we have any callers . There are multiple calls. Thank you. Operator you have three questions remaining. Question thank you. Im going to talk to you about the clean tower sf report and i thank you for presenting it. Its very clear and it looks like were doing a lot of good things. We are thinking about our customers by keeping covid19 and all of its attended issues in mind. Thank you for having good relief in place to help the people of San Francisco, to keep them in this program, which is clean power sf. It shows leadership and protection and respect for the brand. And so, please continue with that. When i went to look at various rates, i appreciate you all publishing the rate. There are two support rates involved. Other than that, i appreciate your continuing work and i look forward to frequent reports and conversations about this program. Thank you. Thank you. Operator you have two questions remaining. Question this is peter dreckmyer. I sent you a couple of letters yesterday. The one on the water supply budget work sheet that commissioner moran has requested. And regarding 5d, i agree, its a wellwritten report. But i feel its based on an old way of thinking. And this is in no way a criticism of staff. I think paula