declaring the intent of the board to order the vacation of the sidewalk portion of streets on the south side of mission street to allow a structure upgrade of 301 mission street high-rise building known as the millennium tower and setting the hearing date sitting as a committee of the whole. item 2 is an ordinance ordering the vacation of sidewalk portions of streets on the south side of mission street to allow a structural upgrade to 301 mission street, high-rise building known as the millennium tower, rededicating the area to public use and adopt the appropriate findings. item 3 is a resolution approving and authorizing a trust exchange agreement with the california state lands commission that would remove the public trust from certain transbay streets and impress the public trust on certain fisherman's wharf street and adopting appropriate findings. >> thank you, ms. major. so obviously all three of these pieces of legislation have to do with the sinking, tilting millennium tower at 301 mission in addition to river a from public works and from the port, we have deputy city attorney john to answer any questions that we have. i believe that public works has a presentation. so mr. rivera, the floor is yores. >> good afternoon. from the department of public works. the department of building inspection has reviewed a proposed design to structurally upgrade the 301 mission street tower. it was determined that the structural upgrade will require infrastructure to be placed under what is currently public right of way along mission street and fremont street. this piece of legislation is really more of a legal exercise than a standard street vacation. when streets are typically vacated, the vacation area is removed from the public right of way and it becomes a city-owned parcel that can be retained by the city or conveyed to a third party. when the city retains ownership, the city has the ability to grant a lease or an easement over all or a portion of the vacated area. this street legislation or this legislation approves three phases. first, portions of mission street and fremont street will be vacated, starting from the sidewalk level down to a depth of approximately 300 feet. this will split off city-owned parcels below grade while keeping the above portion in the current street status as shown on the screen right here along mission street and fremont street. the second portion of this legislation will be an easement that will be granted from the city to the inner of 301 mission street over portions of the below-grade vacated street. the easement areas can be seen on the screen and on file on pages 2 and 3. each one, page two, shows mission street's easement area, and page three shows the fremont street portion of the vacation. finally, after the easement is recorded, the vacated property will be restored to public right of way with subject to the easement. the street vacation was processed as required by local and state law. no objections were received from the city agencies, public utility companies or private fronting property owners. it is important to note that this is a conditional street vacation, and it will not become effective until the board of bof supervisors has approved the following three items. first, the vacation area is currently right of way that is subject to the public trust doctrine. the public trust exchange legislation must be approved and effective. second, the settlement ordinance related to the 301 mission street litigation must be finalized and effective. this ordinance will be introduced at a later date to the board of supervisors. finally the board of supervisors must approve the easement for the structural elements in the vacation area. this legislation will also be introduced at a later date. if you have any questions concerning the vacation process, i'm here to answer them. >> thank you. are there any questions for mr. rivera with regard to the vacation below ground? the construction period will last how long approximately? >> i believe the last i heard was 18 months, probably two years. >> if there are no questions for mr. rivera, would you like to come and tell us about the public trust exchange? >> i'm with the port. i want to talk briefly about the trust exchange. the port is requesting that the board of supervisors approve trust exchange for property in the transbay area, streets in the transbay area as well as the fisherman's what were area. the trust exchange would relate to the project that was just described. it would allow for the construction or improvements for the millennium towers project at 301 mission, but it would also allow for the consolidation of the site for the transbay transit center. so let me focus more in that since you've heard the presentation about the millennium tower. brief background, the transbay authority was created in 2001 to build a new transbay center. in 2010, the caltrans transferred the original caltrans term gnat site to the tjpa for the construction of the facility, but it did not include air and substructure rights for fremont and mission street. so the city could not transfer the entire site to the tjpa. so related to what's being requested now, we are talking about an exchange that would permit the consolidation of the transbay term gnat site in addition to the towers development. but the streets are subject to this. the property is transferred originally to the city based on the act approved by the state in 1968. and so the port owns title to those streets. and the burden act does not allow the city or the port to transfer any interest in those streets without state approval. and so to consolidate the site or to make the permanent easement available to the millennium towers association, the trust would have to be removed. now, the state does allow for the city to remove the trust. there are a number of conditions. the primary condition or key condition is that the property that's being swapped or transferred into the trust must have a value equal to or greater than the property that's being removed from the trust. so the fremont and mission streets, that land must be -- can't be more valuable than the streets that are being swapped into the trust. in this case, that's bay beach and hyde streets and the the fisherman's what were area, those streets allow access to the waterfront and will be a positive addition to the port and to the trust. the streets that are getting removeed, they are cut off from the bay are no longer of value to the trust, and that's the reason we are proposing this swap. square footage, and this was the basis of the port commission action, the square footage of the streets in the fisherman's what were area that would be coming into the trust, 152,000 square feet that would be removed from the trust, 143,000 square feet. the original apray sal process that's going on -- appraisal process that will verify the values. at the time the commission took its action on january 14, that appraisal hod had not been completed. so the commission took their action and on january 14, approving and authorizing the executive director to sign a trust exchange agreement between the port, the city and the land commission subject to the board of supervisors approval and of course subject to lands commission approval. this map, if we can show the map on the computer here. >> on the overhead or the laptop? >> it's on the laptop. >> here we go. >> this map is showing the streets that will be removed from the trust. they are shown in red. again, it's fremont and mission streets. i'm having trouble getting to the next map. okay. the streets in green here are the streets to the fisherman's what were beach hyde and bay, they will be where the trust would be applied, and these would be part of the trust. >> and what are the lands transferred to the united states of america and retained by the city? in parcel r? >> this map is showing more than the trust streets. i'm not sure why that area is listed there. i don't know if the city really has any idea about that area. >> the streets totaling the 34,000 square feet plus 119,000 square feet >> is what's in green, and that's what's being swapped into the trust. >> john, do you understand what these retained by the city, transferred to the united states stuff is? is that from a different swap? >> john from the city attorney's office. to be honest, i'm not exactly sure what that area is. i think it's down near the aquatic park area, there's some federally-owned land. that's the way i've always read it, but i don't have a specific answer for you. >> okay. but they are not implicated, even though the legend says, the key says proposed trade-in lands, and then there's these other two categories that don't seem to be the act lands. >> right. it's just an adjacent property. >> got it. any questions for mr. rhett? if you have any questions you can come on up and testify. we will open up public comment. >> not for this but to help me understand, when the port takes over a street, does this mean that any businesses that operate on that street have to get permits then from the port to do, like, get a new plumbing thing in for their restaurant? or how does that work? >> i would love to explain to you the history of the public trust doctrine and why it is that these lands as a matter of development of land use history in the state of california are lands of the people of the state as opposed to lands of the city and county of san francisco. but in 1968, john burton was able to pass legislation wherein those lands are, that historically were state lands, they are still state lands, but they are stewarded by the port of san francisco in trust for the people of the state of california as parts of the public trust. but as a practical matter, not to engage in dialogue and get in trouble with the city attorney, it has no actual effect on the adjoining property owners and is merely a paper swap. so with that, and subject to approval by the state lands commission of the state of california, ms. jennifer presiding, there are a couple or members of the public who would like to testify on items 1 through 3? seeing none, we will close public comment. there are a couple of housekeeping matters in item number two, the piece of legislation that is before you, this is the street vacation matter refers to a yet to be introduced settlement ordinance. and the amendments which are on pages five and pages six, you will see, strike the words, the settlement is on file with the clerk of the board of supervisors and replaces it with language as language that says that this ordinance will not be operative unless and until the board approves the yet to be introduced settlement. so those changes are set forth on pages five and six. and then with regard to item number three, while the public notice was technically sufficient, i thought that it was important for the public to know that as we have discussed in this hearing, that item number three is correctly related to the millennium tower settlement. and so i have -- i would like to make an amendment to item number three to clearly show in the short title and the long title that is related to the millennium tower matter. so i would like to make a motion to amend items two and three as i've just discussed or moved by supervisor safai, we have been joined by supervisor safai who has made those amendments which we will take without objection. and then, colleagues, i would like to send item one, which is the resolution of intent for the street vacation to the full board. >> mr. chair? >> yes >> we need to add the committee of the whole date to item one for the resolution. >> thank you, ms. major. and we have an amendment to item number one, which is the resolution of intent for street vacation, which of course will require a board of supervisors hearing. and what date, ms. major, should we insert for that? >> march 3, 2020 >> so we will include the hearing date of march 3, which will be a committee of the whole, on march 3, 2020. and we will add that to item number one. that amendment we'll take without objection and send item number one as amended with the march 3 date to the full board with recommendation as a committee report for hearing tomorrow. and items two and three as amended will go to the full board on february 11 without objection. >> mr. chair. >> yes? >> item two will need to be referred without recommendation. >> you are right. because item number two requires the public hearing. so we will send that without recommendation. and item number three we will send with recommendation without objection in the normal course of business. madame clerk, would you please read the next item? >> yes. item four is an ordinance approving an amended and restated land disposition and acquisition agreement with 2000 marin property l.p. for the city's transfer of real property at 639 bryant street under the jurisdiction of the san francisco public utilities commission in exchange for real property at 2000 marin street, subject to several conditions, including the reimbursement of certain transaction costs. >> mr. carlin. >> chair peskin, supervisors, i'm here on behalf of the san francisco public utilities commission. i'm the deputy general manager. this item we have been working on for several years. it's an exchange of our brought at 639 bryant street which for exchange. it is based on fair market values. there is no cash being exchanged but there are other considerations part of the development deal with the developers. there will be tenant improvements at the port. there will be moving costs absorbed by the developer. and he's helping us to secure a tank site for hydrogen peroxide tank for border patrol and our sewers. so i'm happy to answer any questions, but it's pretty self explanatory in the material that was developed for you. >> are there any questions for mr. carlin? this has been discussed by this committee and the board in the past and was actually once considered as 2000 marin as the temporary site for the flower mart, but as we all know, they ended up with a different proposed site. supervisor safai? >> i just wanted to point out to the clerk that the item on the screen is not representative of the current item >> that is true. and that is actually sfgov tv, because item 4 -- item 5 is -- they keyed up the wrong -- >> thank you. >> thank you for that comment. you are right, we are on item 4, amended and restated land acquisition agreement, exchange of 639 bryant for 2000 marin. are there any members of the public who have any comments on this item? seeing none, we'll close public comment and colleagues, if there is no objection, we will send this to the full board as a committee report with recommendation, without objection. madame clerk, please read the next item. >> item five is an ordinance amending the administrative code to classify certain types of unlawful detainer settlement agreements as buyout agreements, require the rent board to provide more information on the disclosure form that landlords must give to tenants, require landlords to give the disclosure form to tenants a certain number of days before the buyout agreement is executed and allow tenants to invalidate any provision of the buyout agreement in which the tenant waived their rights if the landlord did not timely file the buyout agreement. >> thank you. this legislation is sponsored by supervisor ronen and cosponsored by any number of supervisors including myself and supervisor preston. and from supervisor ronen's office, ms. amy is here to present. and we have robert collins from the rent stabilization board. if we have any questions for him. and i know ms. amy has a couple amendments which i am handing out to you for your review, and we will discuss. the floor is yours. >> thank you so much. legislative aid, supervisor ronen's office. good afternoon, chair peskin, vice-chair safai, supervisor preston. the legislation before you today will amend admin code section 37.9e to tighten the regulations on landlord buyouts of tenants and protect tenants from being subjected to high pressure to get them to leave their homes. with speck at a live rents and sales continuing to rise, landlords have a powerful incentive to remove and replace long-time tenants. no-cause evictions are allowed under the state act and move-in laws but some landlords see a cash buyout as a way to get tenants to move out quickly and avoid restraints on condo conversions. supervisor passed a regulation in 2014 which established annual reporting. there was 379 buyouts in neighborhoods throughout the city but some advocates estimate there may be as many as three untracked for every one that does get filed. we need to be sure the laws are being followed. what this legislation will do is the following, it will ensure the tenants are informed of their rights. currently, we are seeing landlords deliver required disclosures to tenants after start of negotiations or not at all, the amendments will require a landlord file a declaration under penalty of perjury prior to commencing negotiations providing evidence of disclosure and method of delivery. it will give tenants time to decide landlords often use high pressure, take it or leave it deadlines that leave tenants no times to reach out to legal support or their advocate assistance. the amendments set a minimum of 30 days between the initiation of buyout negotiations and the execution of an agreement. it will phosphorus landlords to file. they sometimes file in order to recharacterize a buyout agreement and bypass the filing in subsequent condo conversion restrictions. it is filed within 120 days as a buyout agreement, subject to regulation. lastly, the amendment will push landlords to file by waiving any waiver of tenant rights if a landlord does not file on time with the rent board. so we submitted several amendments, actually at the request of the regular board, and each of these together are intended to help make sure the recording is done in a way that's easier to track. on page one, lines eight through 10, it will note that we now require landlords to include in the final buyout agreement identifying information about the location of the unit, same thing continues on page four, lines two to three, it specifies the agreement will show the parcel number. on page six, line six and seven and nine, reiterates the same, and lastly, page nine, line one and six we've deleted the march 1 operative date so it becomes effective 30 days after enactment. we have heard criticism from some interested parties that this legislation will discourage buyouts, and that is in some way, disadvantaged to tenants. on behalf of supervisor ronen, we want to make sure the goal of the board should be to preserve tenants in rent-controlled units. tenants who quote ask for buyouts are usually misinformed and terrified. it's not the job of the city government to enable buyouts which would essentially spell the end of the tenants ability to end in san francisco. i would to say thank you so much from robert collins from the rent board, our city attorney and from the advocates who we have worked with closely to structure this amendment. so thank you. i'm here for my questions. >> anything you want to add? >> thank you supervisor peskin and safai and preston. , no, i wanted to thank amy and supervisor ronen for taking into account amendments that we requested which go to making sure we have the correct unit identified. that's been a challenge that we have had that was brought up from staff. so i just want to thank supervisors for taking those amendments into consideration. >> thank you. are there any members of the public who would like to testify on this item? please come forward. >> thank you, supervisors. my name is sarah. i'm here from housing rights committee of san francisco. by also pushing out tenants who want to stay in a unit and stay in san francisco, we've made it hard in san francisco to just evict tenants for no other reason beside that you want more money. it isn't impossible. but it is -- we've made it a little hard. but we have tenants coming to our office all the time with buyout offers saying that they have no other choice beside take this buyout. a lot of tenants want to stay. and the tenants who take the buyouts, often the money is gonna couple years with the new expensive rent, first and last, for tenants who are on disability benefits or other benefits sometimes it's counted against them. most often tenants come to us way too late. they've already signed the buyout agreement. they've already largely in the process. they've already had months of landlords and their landlord's lawyer lying to them, harassing them, threatening them, bullying them. tenants who get a call every day with the buyout and will they take it. tenants who receive letters saying if they didn't take the buyout, they will be hearing from the lawyer. sometimes with a sample ellis act attached. thank you. i have a tenant i worked with on market street who took a buyout thinking told have to leave and ended up living on the street in front of his build building that he used to live in as a rent-controlled tenant. tenants we get to are more able to stay. this legislation isn't enough ultimately, but it is a big step. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is jennifer and i'm a tenant at 1900 jefferson street. and reside in supervisor stefani's district. the building was sold in 2018 to someone and is managed by jim and carol of peak realty. after the sale, construction began to convert all units from one bedroom to two bedrooms to increase rent from approximately $3,100 to $5,200 per unit. since the sale, tenants have been embroiled in a rent eviction nightmare, and some have been approached for buyouts by jim and their attorney andrew zacks. tenants were given deadlines and told by not taking the buyouts or relocating to other buildings, their rents would be raised. in one case the lawyer insulted the tenant's responsibility as a parent for not taking a buyout. this harassing and threatening behavior is unconscionable. this is why i support legislation to strengthen tenants protections against buyout bullying and harassment from attorneys. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm born and raised in the mission. i'm organizer and counselor of housing committee. we get a lot of tenants who come to the office telling us they've gotten a buyout notice, and they actually see the buyout as an eviction notice. and many tenants are scared, they feel threatened. these are tenants who are part of the most -- population, tenants who have been there for 30, 40 years, and they're scared. and they tell me, they say i'm only being offered $5,000. what can that get you in san francisco for $5,000? it's really -- they're scared, they get threatened by ellis, they get threatened, some of these buyout notices, they are not even notices, they are actually verbal conversations with the tenant saying you have to leave, we are offering you this amount of money. they are selling the building, it's coming into san francisco to our community to take over that building and displacing that tenant with the merely pennies in comparison to how much housing costs in san francisco. it's very crucial this legislation is not -- it is going to support the tenants. we need something more to help these tenants out. tenants who have no voice in san francisco. tenants who are born in the mission, living in drastic conditions where that buyout might be, but it's not. they are displaced to the east bay, they are displaced to down across the state. we need to keep these tenants in rent-controlled buildings. please support this legislation. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> supervisors, our efforts to provide anti-eviction representation to those who need it still remains a work in progress. i have a lot of empathy for, i do, i'm at the housing rights commission a lot with a lot of issues. i have a slightly ancillary approach to this. i imagine there might be general comment to this committee, but there is none, so i'll do it here. it does go with this insure. what i noticed is there isn't any committee assigned to global climate change. one of the biggest issues of our time. and of course this committee is the closest thing. global climate change is connected to land use, the same thing as our housing jobs linkage is. and i'm wondering if we could do something, maybe get it put in the name or somehow -- if we had a better understanding of how land use affects to meet our need for global climate change, in our land use issues like this one, we would start to see a lot more land use issues but that are resolved in favor of antigentrification and in favor of neighborhood preservation, and we are not seeing that, and this certainly is one such issue. >> thank you, next speaker. >> good afternoon. if you know me, and i know you do. i'm an advocate for other groups of people and i never thought i would be in here advocating for myself. my name is sherry lord and i live in north beach. i've lived there since december 2009, and i'm 71 years old, not sure how that happened but it's true. and i'm disabled. in the ten years i've lived in this building, it's been sold four times and we've had six property managers. in the building is tenants who are disabled, and they have been there 30 years. they had the flu and couldn't come today. the last two years, we have been through owners that have wanted us to leave with a lot of pressure. in august of 2019, the building was purchased by hans. his first act was to enforce the tenant to move out. he offered them $35,000, and justin had been there ten years and moved. did the owner move in? no. did he file an owner buy out with the city? no. he put the building up for sale. the tenant at the same time the owner offered the tenants, myself and the two elderly people in unit a buyouts. and we both said no. and then he kept at it and at it. it got to the point where he would call us weekly and say i have a buyout for you, and then it got to be daily, and then it got to be the day before the sale of the building, he called us that day and we said no. so the new owner is starting the same tactic, and he's only been in here since november. i think i got lots more but i'll leave it at that. i'm not sure what to do at this point. but when i was advocating for homeless, i never thought that i would be homeless myself. i may not be better off after all. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i'm a long-time voter from district 5. and i'm a member of senior and disability action. i'm here to support supervisor ronen's legislation on behalf of many seniors. seniors, we are highly vulnerable, we have very few resources, very few options, very limited incomes. we live in isolation. we have no plan b. what does that mean? pretend that i'm 85 years old. i live alone. i've been in my rent-controlled apartment 40 years in an old victorian. my husband died, my children live thousands of miles away. my friends have died. the shopkeepers i used to know and talk to every day, they're gone. i only go to the grocery store, maybe on a good day. one day, the new landlord knocks on my door. i've never met him. he says he has to have my apartment. he'll give me $10,000 or he'll take me to court. he says i have ten days to decide. all i know is what he tells me. all i know is what he tells me. supervisors, we need you to support this legislation. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is marvin green. i have lived at the residence intent in the san francisco bay area for the past 30 years. in the past several years in the mission district. these stories you hear are just the tip of the iceberg. for every one person that's here there's probably 200 people who have stories about how landlords and how speculators abuse, bully and use the system against them. what this bill does is help to level the playing field. on one side, you have speculative real estate people who have years of sophisticated, years of legal training, years of legal support. and years of planning to do this against people who find out about it ten days, two months beforehand with no real sophistication, with no real estate background in most cases, and with no support system. what this does is helps to tighten up the loopholes that the sophisticated, well-background, speculators are using against citizens of san francisco. so i urge you to pass this bill and refer it to the full board so they can pass it so that we can try at least a little bit to level the playing field to give those of us who rent and live and contributed in san francisco an opportunity to at least stand up for ourselves. thank you very much. >> next speaker. >> hi. good afternoon. my name is letica and i'm the ss lead housing organizer with just cause. in the mission we offer counseling for tenants facing eviction, harassment and these verbal buyouts that we keep seeing which we see often in our clinic. and i am here in support of these amendments, to close the buyout loopholes in the legislation. like i said, we see tenants coming in with verbal buyout offering on a regular basis. and landlords are simply not following the law by issuing the prebuyout disclosure forms. and when they do share these forms, it often comes with serious threats of eviction if the tenants refuse to negotiate a buyout agreement. just a couple of weeks ago this past month in january, we had an entire building come in from the mission for counseling support, because a landlord invited them to a meeting on a saturday, surprised them with a presentation for a verbal buyout and threatened an ellis if they did not agree. they received a prebuyout disclosure form after the meeting, not before. and when they came to our clinic, we supported them with a letter refusing to negotiate a buyout, and then they got issued an ellis act eviction. so tenants, when they are exerting their right to say no, they are being seriously threatened with these buyouts, i'm sorry, with these evictions whether it's ellis or owner move-in, and it's not in good faith like the notice says. so we support this amendments to strengthen tenant protections. until then, tenants are going to be harassedd with buyouts and with evictions unless we are able to enforce that landlords file these buyouts. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. kelly hill with united to save the mission. first i want to thank hillary ronen's office for bringing this important legislation to you. today i want to talk about my own story, which is kind of a harassment displacement story. in early 2000 our landlord put our building up for sale, a two-unit building near hayes. we lived through two years of harassment. back then it was a little harder to get ahold of legal help. it wasn't financially feasible. we lived through two open houses a week for two years. we had just started our business. we eventually took a tiny buyout to get out from under the harassment. basically that small buyout barely paid for the moving expenses and a couple of months of the rent increase. we lasted six months at our next place and that trajectory led to years of housing insecurity. this legislation is super important. i have a couple of things that would make it more of a dream legislation, some of these things may not be possible. we have firsthand knowledge of the predatory behavior taking place in the mission. we are tracking case studies two blocks from my house of multiple buildings being harassed in this exact same way. we are seeing the same serial predators, people like michael camp sini and the big time folks like veritas changing the landscape. i would love to see a longer deadline of giving people to decide. is there a way to prematch tenants with counsel before the negotiations commence, remove the stress. i've seen this. we help with tenant work when we know their buildings are going to be predatory upon. is three a number of hostile attempts by the same people? we live in an age with no horizontal mobility. our rent is going to triple for people all over the place. thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. supervisors. district 8 tenant anastasia. a rental unit that's been vacated is worth more to a landlord or real estate speculator than a building that's empty of tenants. and a building that's empty can fetch a higher price in today's speck at a live housing market. it's vital to preserve our city's rapidly-depleting rental controlled housing stock and keep tenants in their home. to this end i fully support today's legislation that will close tenant buyout agreements including classifying certain types of unlawful detaper settlements, agreements as buyout agreements and requiring the rent board to provide more information on the disclosure forms landlords must give tenants before buyout negotiations commence. tenants need to know they are not compelled to agree to sign the disclosure form or agree to a buyout of their tenancy that they can seek advice and have time to consider the buyout offer or to reject the offer. and landlords must file all required forms timely or tenants would be able to invalidate any waivers of rights agreed to. i'm so disheartened by the taxes a developer investor miller used to force my neighbor, a retired legal secretary, to give up her rent-controlled flat on chattanooga street. she got a disclosure form two weeks after he bought the building in 2016 and then had sac's law firm send a letter telling her she had to move out because the landlord was constructing an adu below her, which was b.s. because he hadn't even gotten the permit approved. then he harassed her with phone calls and raised a noise campaign above her till she finally got -- >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> thank you for having this hearing. i support hillary ronen's legislation. and we can make it even stronger in making howing as a human right. and we should not be treated like a commodity. i live ad 698 bruce street. this property in december 2019. and i was hearing a conversation between a prospective buyer and a real estate agent, and he was telling, oh, you buy this, we can get rid of these old-time tenants. and i hear it, you know? and they didn't know i was listening to them. but this is their model. now, veritas sold the building to another speculator, russ, he was my landlord 30 years ago, and he bought it again. and i know what his game plan is. i heard have a real estate broker talking to them. and this eviction is imminent. and i've been there for 48 years. and i came in that building when i was full hair and now i'm losing my hair. and i want this legislation even stronger. and i would like to see we have a tenants rights people here. i would like to bring this in the city and county here so we can even make it better. thank you very much. >> thank you. good to see you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i'm with our mission no eviction. i'm a volunteer with housing rights committee. and i'm here to support this legislation. but to echo that it doesn't do enough. and one of the things that i think that should be amended in this legislation is the time period between the notification and the agreement. 30 days is just not enough. and i'll tell you why. i just recently worked with a woman who had been given a buyout notice. she had been in her unit for 48 years. her mother had died in that unit, and she was terrified. she had a nervous breakdown. she had to get on medication. 30 days does not allow enough time. it took -- she wanted to fight. she got a lawyer, she's still in her place right now. but to do all of this and to organize tenants in the building, 30 days is just not long enough. and i know that you know the difficulty, the number of lawyers that we have can't even keep pace with the number of tenants that need assistance. and then i also want to echo the concerns that kelly raised. we are seeing neighbors in our, just our block, we think we have lost close to 70, that are being evicted under the table. they are threatened to take a buyout under the table and then when they leave, the places immediately are serial permits are used to completely renovate the spaces and to be leased at market rate or flipped. and we need to do something about this situation, because we are losing our immigrant neighbors at a very rapid pace. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> my name is scott weaver where the san francisco tenants union. i'm sure you are all aware of the vulnerabilities of the population that is subject to these buyouts. and the shock that they feel when they receive a letter from an attorney saying we may ellis the building, my client is considering owner move-in eviction. immediately, there's one foot out the door. immediately. and that's why we need this 30-day cooling-off period so that we don't have people making sudden decisions, so we have people who have the ability to go to counseling organizations to be able to do that before being scared so much that they will sign an agreement. i think as we talk about buyouts, we underestimate the displacement effect that buyouts have. if we were to count the number of buyouts that really happen in the city, they will exceed any single cause for eviction. they probably exceed any two causes for eviction combined. this is a big deal in terms of what is happening right in front of us. and landlords have been very open about not filing these things with the rent board. almost to the point of bragging about it. and if we are going to actually make this ordinance enforceable, then we have to prohibit or invalidate any waiver of rights that a tenant will have in a buyout agreement if a landlord doesn't file with the rent board. that's the only way to put some sting into it and to allow tenants to file with the rent board. and that's the only way that this city is going to get on any kind of profile of what -- >> thank you, scott. next speaker, please. >> hi. from the san francisco tenants union. thank you, supervisors. and thank you so much hillary ronen for putting this legislation together. every month in our coalition, the antidisplacement coalition, we review the biggest threats to tenants in the city. and almost without fail, buyouts makes the top of the list every month. and we've also known the buyouts are the primary way we are losing affordable housing in san francisco for years. this is why we introduced the original buyout legislation. it was actually hillary ronen was the aid who worked on it with us. so she was our natural choice to lead this effort to fix the gaps. what is a buyout? it's when a tenant sells their rights for the sake of a bit of money and a bit of certainty about the day they have to move. sells their rights. basically they are giving up the chance to enforce the rights they have that you all passed, that we passed as a city of san francisco to protect their housing and to protect this affordable housing for everyone here. i don't blame individual people who do that, because they are scared, but it is our responsibility to make sure that that is as hard to do as possible and that we save that housing. in the intervening years since we originally passed the legislation, we were able to -- it worked to a point. we were able to track some information, we were able to incorporate that information about buyouts that happened into the housing balance report to show us how much we were losing. knowing we were losing a lot more than that. but we knew we were falling way short of what was going on, based on storying we were hearing in our clinics, reports from the courthouse about fake lawsuits being filed so people could get away with not filing. and from tenants about their own neighbors. this legislation has been designed to fill those gaps, to stop the fake lawsuits and raise the stakes when landlords break the rules. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is peter. i'm a proud member of north beach. my family established residence there in the late 1800s. i live at 646 lumbar street. my wife, directly across from me. i'm in the pool five days a week, 5:30 in the morning, because i'm disabled. i have a good work out there and i can't stay on my feet. i've been there for 23 years my aunt rose, lived there 21 years before me. i've seen a lot of changes in north beach. and i don't like what i see. aaron peskin has stepped forward and put a big effort to help us out. my wife and i, we don't want to move. i don't plan to move. i'm a north beach boy, and i'm going to stay a north beach boy. my grandfather, i was born in the house, 165 165valpraiso. he built two bungalows there in the early 1900s with his little 28-foot fishing boat. i was born in the family house in 1940 by the county midwife. i'm a true son of the beach. thank you. >> [laughter] thank you. good to see you. next speaker, please. >> i'm peter's wife gail deluca. we got a new landlord. this was the third since our wonderful john passed away who lived in the front unit. [please stand by] -[please stand b >> since they've been in, we were offered a buyout which we turned down, but we were given, like, i think about 10 days for us and the tenants below us to either accept or reject the buyout. once this started happening, i can't describe the kind of turmoil, the fears, you know, and you can't think. you know, you don't know where to turn. it's just all so sudden. in responding to the buyout offer, i basically said we would need more time to move out. they've given us three months to -- >> you've got to wrap up. >> [ indiscernible ] -- >> gail, i'll tell you what, i'm happy -- you know where i live. you know where my office is. we can meet offline. i'm happy to continue talking with you. >> good afternoon. theresa flederick, senior and disability action. i live in north beach. i know of 39 households within four blocks of where i live. and within two blocks, 39 households are being asked to take buyouts. i know of on alta street, for example, the senior there, diane, was not given the seven-page pamphlet on her rights. she was asked to take a buyout which she declined, and then she was told they could l-sat her. she's lived there for 50 years. another man because of the flu he was extremely disappointed that he couldn't come today. and, in fact, he sent me -- if i could have the overhead, he sent me this image in a text, saying that he was so sorry that he could not come because he so wanted to speak and tell his story, which is that they lived there for over 33 years. both him and his wife are disabled. asking them to take a buyout, and they said, no, we're going to decline that. this is the second landlord in the last nine and a half months. he said, no, we don't want to move, we want to stay here. the new owner said, i will lsat you or i could move in a relative is the other thing. what i know is this is happening all over. i know that people are threatened. there is a harassment through sudden renovations. i hear these stories all the time. this legislation is going to fix a lot of those loopholes that have been used, abused, and hurting so many people. we also then lose these affordable housing as these units are turned into luxury units -- >> thank you. are there any other members of the public that could like to testify on this item number 5? seeing none, the matter is back in the committee's hands. supervisor preston. >> thank you. i would like to thank all the folks that came to speak on this. this is a big step forward when the buyout legislation was initiated. it was the first buyout legislation of its kind in the state, if i'm not mistaken. some other jurisdictions have followed suit since then. but i want to thank supervisor ronen and others for their work on this measure. i think there is -- probably nowhere there is a bigger disconnect in the housing world between what academics, media, and other pundits look at around evictions and the reality that folks who are working on the ground, like a lot of our speakers today are, in terms of perception and numbers of evictions. as some of the speakers noted, this is the leading form of eviction. buyouts are essentially de facto evictions. this is not just in san francisco. i personally as a tenant advocate for the last 20 years have done state-wide and national research on evictions. you realize when you run those numbers, you're dealing with a tiny fraction of the number of people who are actually displaced. in more cases it's more advantageous for a landlord to threaten they are going to drag a tenant through the eviction process and get them to surrender their rights without going to court. in san francisco it is the same with the eviction notices that are served. two aspects i want highlight on this particular legislation that i think are really essential. the most common thing that i hear from tenants in san francisco, particularly in district 5, are that they are given these false, very threatening and scary deadlines. we will give you this much if you respond by monday or in a week. these are entirely false deadlines. you just want to be clear for folks that are not here and are watching this on tv, when you get buyout offer, you have absolutely no obligation or requirement to respond. usually the threats that those offers will go away are false and usually taking the time you need is to your advantage. so i think the -- providing the 30-day window here is absolutely an essential part of this legislation. it's going to have a big impact. and the other side is the attainment process. and the previous legislation, the bou buyout legislation, we landlords would get creative. one of the bad-faith ways is to try and dress up buyout efforts as a part of litigation in order to avoid obligations to go ahead and file these. so i think closing the unlawful detainer loophole here and forcing landlords to file those buyouts as well is absolutely essential. i'm going to be supporting this and thanks to supervisor ronen for her leadership on it. >> thank you, supervisor preston. i concur with those statements, which is precisely why i am a proud co-sponsor and also want to add my thanks to the community and supervisor ronen for bringing this forward. we have some minor, non-substantive amendments that are before us as to lot and block numbers spread out. can we take those amendments without objection and then, as amended, we will send the item to the full board with recommendation without objection. colleagues, i have been informed that there was actually an intended small amendment to the previous item, so if i could make a motion to rescind the vote on item number 4, we'll do that without objection. and then add on page 11 a subsection b that says, within 30 days of the amended agreement being fully executed by all parties, the sfpuc shall provide the final amended agreement to the clerk of the board for ininclusion into the official file. so that language we will amend into item 4 and then send the item again as amended with recommendation as a committee report. madam clerk, could you please read item number 6, our final item. >> clerk: yes, item 6 is a planning toad ordinance amending the planning code to enable the use of development project sites during the project approval and entitlement process by authorizing the planning department to authorize certain interim activities at development project sites as temporary uses for up to 36 months, subject to extension at the discretion of the planning director in increments for up to a maximum possible total of 24 additional months; adopting the planning department's determination under the california environmental quality act; making findings of consistency with the general plan, and the eight priority policies of planning code, section 101.1; and making findings of public convenience, necessity, and welfare under planning code, section 302. >> thank you, ms. major. we have heard this repeatedly. we had an amendment that the city attorney deemed to be substantive, so it required a one-week continuance. is there any public comment on this item? seeing none, can we send this item that has been heard repeatedly -- wait winning supervisor preston, do you have a comment? sorry, i didn't take you down from your last comment. to the full board with recommendation without objection. that will be the order and we are adjourned. >> we can sweep by in front of a house in a matter of seconds. the only people who don't like it are the people who get the tickets. >> this is a street sweeping sign. don't let it get you. pay attention. [♪] >> in the morning, when we first go out, we start at six in the morning or seven in the morning. we call that our business run. we sweep all the main arteries of the city. after 8:00, we go into the residential areas and take care of all the other customers. >> the idea with the street sweeping program is to get the leaves and the debris off the ground. >> we -- for not only appearance and cleanliness but safety as well. >> we will get anywhere from 2- 7,000 pounds per truck depending on the season and the route. the street sweeper and the choice of the use right now is an error sweeper. they have a motor in the back and it blows winds down one side and carried by air into the hopper. what will mess this up is new -- large pieces of cardboard or sticks or coat hangers. anything that is more than 12 inches. the tube on the tracks is only 12-inch diameter. >> people asked what they can do to help to keep the city clean. there are people that letter. leaves are one thing. any of the garbage you see is from people being careless. [♪] >> one cars parked in the way, we can't sweep under the congress. to deal with this, we have parking control officers that are provided by m.t.a. and they go in front of our sweepers and pass out citations to people that are parking the wrong way. once the sweepers sweep past in san francisco, you may park behind the street sweeper. we all know parking is a big issue. north beach hasn't been swept since the eighties because of opposition. but we are getting a lot of requests to sweep. basically our trucks are 10 feet wide. we stick the brooms out and they are may be 12 feet wide. >> there are a lot of blind spots when driving a large truck pedestrians and bicyclists and cars. and navigates this 22,000-pound truck through the city. >> we involve the public here -- to adhere to traffic laws. these routes were developed back in the eighties around the capability of the sweeper. things have changed since then so we have to adapt. luckily, public works is embracing technology and working on a system to alter our maps. this is literally cut and paste -- cut and paste. we will have a computer program soon that will be able to alter the maps and be updated instantly. we will have tablets in the checks for all of the maps. we will send a broom wherever it needs to go and he has the information he needs to complete the safety. what is needed about these tablets as they will have a g.p.s. on it so we know where they're at. you do get confused driving along, especially the inner sunset. recall that to the be made a triangle. >> thanks for writing along with us today. i enjoyed showing you what we do and i urge you to pay attention to the signs and move your car and don't litter. and don't litter. with all - working for the city and county of san francisco will immerse you in a vibrant and dynamic city that's on the forefront of economic growth, the arts, and social change. our city has always been on the edge of progress and innovation. after all, we're at the meeting of land and sea. - our city is famous for its iconic scenery, historic designs, and world-class style. it's the birthplace of blue jeans, and where "the rock" holds court over the largest natural harbor on the west coast. - our 28,000 city and county employees play an important role in making san francisco what it is today. - we provide residents and visitors with a wide array of services, such as improving city streets and parks, keeping communities safe, and driving buses and cable cars. - our employees enjoy competitive salaries, as well as generous benefits programs. but most importantly, working for the city and county of san francisco gives employees an opportunity to contribute their ideas, energy, and commitment to shape the city's future. - thank you for considering a career with the city and county of san francisco. shop and dine on the 49 promotes local businesses and challenges residents to do shopping and dining within the 49 square miles of san francisco by supporting local services within neighborhood. we help san francisco remain unique, successful and vibrant. where will you shop and dine in the 49? san francisco owes the charm to the unique character of the neighborhood comer hall district. each corridor has its own personality. our neighborhoods are the engine of the city. >> you are putting money and support back to the community you live in and you are helping small businesses grow. >> it is more environmentally friendly. >> shopping local is very important. i have had relationships with my local growers for 30 years. by shopping here and supporting us locally, you are also supporting the growers of the flowers, they are fresh and they have a price point that is not imported. it is really good for everybody. >> shopping locally is crucial. without that support, small business can't survive, and if we lose small business, that diversity goes away, and, you know, it would be a shame to see that become a thing of the past. >> it is important to dine and shop locally. it allows us to maintain traditions. it makes the neighborhood. >> i think san francisco should shop local as much as they can. the retail marketplace is changes. we are trying to have people on the floor who can talk to you and help you with products you are interested in buying, and help you with exploration to try things you have never had before. >> the fish business, you think it is a piece of fish and fisherman. there are a lot of people working in the fish business, between wholesalers and fishermen and bait and tackle. at the retail end, we about a lot of people and it is good for everybody. >> shopping and dining locally is so important to the community because it brings a tighter fabric to the community and allows the business owners to thrive in the community. we see more small businesses going away. we need to shop locally to keep the small business alive in san francisco. >> shop and dine in the 49 is a cool initiative. you can see the banners in the streets around town. it is great. anything that can showcase and legitimize small businesses is a wonderful thing. >> welcome, everyone. and thank you so much for coming and i am claire farley and the director and a senior advisor for mayor breed and tony newman, and today we are gathered on this historic day to open up san francisco's first trans home for transand non-conforming adults in san francisco. [applause] and it's such an honor to work for a city that continues to celebrate but also to do the work to make sure that our community gets housed. without housing, without housing we will not be able to help our communities thrive. every one of us need to come together to be a part of this solution and st. james and larkin street are doing that today. thank you. [applause] so first we have honored guests with us today and i'll turn it over to her. and mayor breed has led the effort and she made $2.3 million investment into transhome which includes this opening today which is going to be 13 folks housed and 55 folks to receive subsidies for folks who are low income and she spearheaded with the community and the office and tony and we're so honored to have a mayor that continues to commit and really work to make sure that everyone in this city can thrive. so please welcome mayor breed. >> mayor london breed: thank you for joining us on this historic day. when i first became mayor in san francisco and met with the folks in my office, many of the department heads, i made it clear that equity would be at the top of our agenda in everything that we do. we need to change the culture of san francisco and not just talk about the problems that exist, but actually to make the kinds of investments that will deliver real results. and it comes from my own experience of growing up in san francisco in the african american community, living in poverty, and waiting for something to be done. we know what the data says, but we don't always make the right investments that ensure the results that are going to change the lives of the people that we want to serve. and so when i met with the trans-advisory committee and we talked about the challenges that continue to persist around the opportunities for grants and the arts community and opportunities for housing and opportunities for programs and other services, the discriminatory practices that exist with job opportunities that they seek, the challenges with our homeless population and learning that people who are part of our transcommunity are 18 times more likely to experience homelessness than anyone else in this city, i knew that it was important to not only listen and hear what they had to say, but to invest ar resources in tryino make sure that we can change what those challenges are for the better. and so i'm so grateful to be standing here with claire farley who is the director of the office of transgender initiatives for san francisco, because she has brought so many people together and to come up with incredible solutions. and is the reason why we have invested in this past year's budget, thanks to the supervisor of this district and others, supervisor peskin, $2.3 million for this initiative of trans-home s.f. and this is one of the first, most incredible projects that we are cutting the ribbon on today that will provide safe affordable housing for people who are experiencing homelessness. and so it is so great to be here today. and i really want to thank tony newman because tony newman -- [applause] and she's a force and is committed to this work and she has hit the ball rolling with staffing up and working with folks in the community and making it clear what was needed, which makes it easier to provide the funding right to the places where we know that it's needed the most -- rental subsidies and wraparound support and services and making sure that we have the right people in place to get the job done so that we can get people off the streets and to get them into housing. so thank you so much to tony and the work that you do, to the mayor's office on housing and community development, and to the coalition, to larkin street and youth services and especially to the san francisco transadvisory committee who i have mentioned before the work that they continue to do to make sure that we call attention to all of the inequities and the various city departments as it relates to funding and how it needs to change to make an impact on the lives of people who are a part of this amazing community and a true important part of san francisco. so i want to thank... (♪) (♪) >> our young people, as well as reaching the thousand new shelter beds which is such an accomplishment and thank you so much for your leadership to make that goal happen. also i want to recognize our commissioners who are in the house today as well as our department heads, dr. colfax from the d.p.h. and others, leadership at mohcd for their support and really making sure that these programs get funded and that there's equity continuing throughout the work. and as well i want to welcome the district supervisor aaron peskin. thank you so much. [applause] >> thank you. i think that everything has been said but not everybody has said it. in addition to our d.p.h. director grant colfax i want to acknowledge and to thank the director of our department of building inspection, tom hooey. thank you to larkin street and thank you to st. jerusalem's and to the office of transinitiative incentives and the mayor's office of housing and community development. i am here to give a district 3 welcome. and let me just say that we are delighted, we were delighted to appropriate the funds, and i could not be more proud that this is the first facility and it is located here in district 3. which has a very proud, long lgbtq history from the black cat down the street to polk street on the other side, this is where it all began in san francisco. and we are profoundly aware that homelessness is acutely an lgbtq issue. and today we are taking a large step in addressing it and in solving it. welcome to district 3, to the 13 individuals, i will register you to vote the second you move in. [laughter]. [applause] >> thank you, so much, supervisor, and thank supervisor mandelman and supervisor haney, they were not able to join us but their teams are here and so thank you so much for your efforts. before i introduce tony i wanted to recognize the anonymous building owner of this property who is renting this space to us and he and his partner are committed to making sure that transhome is a success and that we continue to work to make sure that our communities are housed in the city. and without having such a strong and supportive and inclusive manager of this building, we would not be here today. so let's please give he him a hd and thank them for their support. [applause] so now it's my honor to introduce tony newman, she's the director of st. james infirmary and i would like to say that i helped to kind of create the idea, and now she's the mother of the project. so please welcome the mother of trans-home, toni newman. [applause] >> welcome, everybody. i'm just so excited to be here today and i want to thank all of the partners here, hugo from the mayor's office of housing. and we have open house and we have larkin who have been very supportive. and larkin is so supportive to me and st. james and the navigating team of matthew payden and jesse and camden, that have been working day and night to make this available for you. we're excited that st. james can be a leader with larkin. and larkin has been leading the youth for many years. and they have taught us how to do this. and i want to thank my board of directors for coming and i have four board of directors and two will be speaking and now i introduce akira jackson did she's here. she's a sponsor and she's been fighting for housing but i don't think that she's here, so jesse santos is going to come up and to introduce our first resident moving into the house this week. jesse, and jane, please come up right now. >> good morning, everyone. thank you for being here and this is a dream for us, for the trans-gender community. i will introduce jane, the resident in our house and she's a beautiful woman. [applause] >> hi, i am jane cordova and i was born in central mexico and i came here when i was 16 years old and i grew up in l.a. and eventually made my way to san francisco, which is i live here for 10 years. and i went to new york and we stayed there for another 10 years and i'm very happy to be back in this city where our community has the most resources and i'm very happy to be here and to have a place finally to call home. thank you. [applause] >> i'd like to call up joquaim and jane, come on up. [applause] hi, thank you for coming, i'm joaquin ramora and i'm here where i proudly serve as a board member and as an advocate for harm reduction and transsupport in the greater bay area. thanks to mayor breed and our trans-home and everyone else who helped to make this project come together. today we can celebrate that our trans-home is a step in the right direction for the city of san francisco. this ensures that transgender people have an opportunity to become successful in our society. stable housing is fundamental to creating access to resources for survival. our trans-home will provide this foundation to create a support system for those living on the margins within our city. excuse me. members of our community are constantly faced with unjust incarceration and poverty and constitutional and emotional violence. some encounter even more severe consequences and our transgender sisters of color are experiencing hate crimes and murders on a daily basis and this goes unnoticed. the society must understand discrimination based on race and gender presentation. we must continue with this momentum and inspire more programs for the needs of our community. it's our due diligence as transpeople to ensure that the issues are confronted and change. we need companies and foundation and government to commit to advocating for transgender causes. our trans-home will provide the opportunity to not only recover and survive but to thrive and survive the power members to become leaders and role models. and protecting our community members and we are shifting the narrative away from being defined by our margins and barriers towards being defined by successes and positive impacts on the world. the housing crisis in the bay area has become recognized as an ongoing issue and despite this we're continuing to demonstrate that there's ways to empower and to support our communities with pride. i feel proud to know that san francisco is a place of historical resistance and refuge for people of all walks of life and that we continue that resistance by uplifting our marginalized communities. thank you. [applause] >> i'd like to take a second to acknowledge akira jackson who is unable to be here today. i'd like to thank her leadership, without her we wouldn't be here today. and st. james is honored to be part of this project connecting folks. -- thank you -- connecting folks with the services and homes that our community needs. we look forward to continue to fight for the rights of our community. thank you. [applause] >> well, thank you all so much. and now we're going to move the podium and cut the ribbon. one, two, three,. [applause] thank you all so much. (♪) (♪) >> growing up in san francisco has been way safer than growing up other places we we have that bubble, and it's still that bubble that it's okay to be whatever you want to. you can let your free flag fry he -- fly here. as an adult with autism, i'm here to challenge people's idea of what autism is. my journey is not everyone's journey because every autistic child is different, but there's hope. my background has heavy roots in the bay area. i was born in san diego and adopted out to san francisco when i was about 17 years old. i bounced around a little bit here in high school, but i've always been here in the bay. we are an inclusive preschool, which means that we cater to emp. we don't turn anyone away. we take every child regardless of race, creed, religious or ability. the most common thing i hear in my adult life is oh, you don't seem like you have autism. you seem so normal. yeah. that's 26 years of really, really, really hard work and i think thises that i still do. i was one of the first open adoptions for an lgbt couple. they split up when i was about four. one of them is partnered, and one of them is not, and then my biological mother, who is also a lesbian. very queer family. growing up in the 90's with a queer family was odd, i had the bubble to protect me, and here, i felt safe. i was bullied relatively infrequently. but i never really felt isolated or alone. i have known for virtually my entire life i was not suspended, but kindly asked to not ever bring it up again in first grade, my desire to have a sex change. the school that i went to really had no idea how to handle one. one of my parents is a little bit gender nonconforming, so they know what it's about, but my parents wanted my life to be safe. when i have all the neurological issues to manage, that was just one more to add to it. i was a weird kid. i had my core group of, like, very tight, like, three friends. when we look at autism, we characterize it by, like, lack of eye contact, what i do now is when i'm looking away from the camera, it's for my own comfort. faces are confusing. it's a lack of mirror neurons in your brain working properly to allow you to experience empathy, to realize where somebody is coming from, or to realize that body language means that. at its core, autism is a social disorder, it's a neurological disorder that people are born with, and it's a big, big spectrum. it wasn't until i was a teenager that i heard autism in relation to myself, and i rejected it. i was very loud, i took up a lot of space, and it was because mostly taking up space let everybody else know where i existed in the world. i didn't like to talk to people really, and then, when i did, i overshared. i was very difficult to be around. but the friends that i have are very close. i click with our atypical kiddos than other people do. in experience, i remember when i was five years old and not wanting people to touch me because it hurt. i remember throwing chairs because i could not regulate my own emotions, and it did not mean that i was a bad kid, it meant that i couldn't cope. i grew up in a family of behavioral psychologists, and i got development cal -- developmental psychology from all sides. i recognize that my experience is just a very small picture of that, and not everybody's in a position to have a family that's as supportive, but there's also a community that's incredible helpful and wonderful and open and there for you in your moments of need. it was like two or three years of conversations before i was like you know what? i'm just going to do this, and i went out and got my prescription for hormones and started transitioning medically, even though i had already been living as a male. i have a two-year-old. the person who i'm now married to is my husband for about two years, and then started gaining weight and wasn't sure, so i we went and talked with the doctor at my clinic, and he said well, testosterone is basically birth control, so there's no way you can be pregnant. i found out i was pregnant at 6.5 months. my whole mission is to kind of normalize adults like me. i think i've finally found my calling in early intervention, which is here, kind of what we do. i think the access to irrelevant care for parents is intentionally confusing. when i did the procespective search for autism for my own child, it was confusing. we have a place where children can be children, but it's very confusing. i always out myself as an adult with autism. i think it's helpful when you know where can your child go. how i'm choosing to help is to give children that would normally not be allowed to have children in the same respect, kids that have three times as much work to do as their peers or kids who do odd things, like, beach therapy. how do -- speech therapy. how do you explain that to the rest of their class? i want that to be a normal experience. i was working on a certificate and kind of getting think early childhood credits brefore i started working here, and we did a section on transgender inclusion, inclusion, which is a big issue here in san francisco because we attract lots of queer families, and the teacher approached me and said i don't really feel comfortable or qualified to talk about this from, like, a cisgendered straight person's perspective, would you mind talking a little bit with your own experience, and i'm like absolutely. so i'm now one of the guest speakers in that particular class at city college. i love growing up here. i love what san francisco represents. the idea of leaving has never occurred to me. but it's a place that i need to fight for to bring it back to what it used to be, to allow all of those little kids that come from really unsafe environments to move somewhere safe. what i've done with my life is work to make all of those situations better, to bring a little bit of light to all those kind of issues that we're still having, hoping to expand into a little bit more of a resource center, and this resource center would be more those new parents who have gotten that diagnosis, and we want to be this one centralized place that allows parents to breathe for a second. i would love to empower from the bottom up, from the kid level, and from the top down, from the teacher level. so many things that i would love to do that are all about changing people's minds about certain chunts, like the transgender community or the autistic community. i would like my daughter to know there's no wrong way to go through life. everybody experiences pain and grief and sadness, and that all of those things are temporary. >> look at that beautiful jellyfish. the way to speak to students and motivate them to take action, to save the planet, they do, they care and my job is to speak to them in a way that they can understand that touches their heart and makes them feel powerful with simple actions to take every day. ♪ ♪ >> i was born and raised in the desert of palm springs, california. my dad was the rabbi in the community there. what i got from watching my father on stage talking to the community was learning how to be in the public. and learning how to do public speaking and i remember the first time i got up to give my first school assembly, i felt my dad over my shoulder saying pause for drama, deliver your words. when i was a kid, i wanted to be a teacher. and then when i got into high school, i decided i wanted to get into advertising and do graphic art and taglines and stuff like that. by the time i was in college, i decided i wanted to be a decorator. but as i did more work, i realized working my way up meant a lot of physical labor. i only had so much energy to work with for the rest of my life and i could use that energy towards making a lot of money, helping someone else make a lot of money or doing something meaningful. i found the nonprofit working to save the rainforest was looking for volunteers. i went, volunteered and my life changed. suddenly everything i was doing had meaning. stuffing envelopes had meaning, faxing out requests had meaning. i eventually moved up to san francisco to work out of the office here, given a lot of assembly through los angeles county and then came up here and doing assemblies to kids about rainforest. one of my jobs was to teach about recycle, teaching students to reduce, reuse, recycle and compost, i'm teaching them they have the power, and that motivates them. it was satisfying for me to work with for the department of environment to create a message that gets to the heart of the issue. the san francisco department of environment is the only agency that has a full time educational team, we go into the schools to help teach children how to protect nature and the environment. we realized we needed animal mascot to spark excitement with the students. the city during the gold rush days, the phoenix became part of the city feel and i love the symbolism of the phoenix, about transformation and the message that the theme of the phoenix provides, we all have the power to transform our world for the better. we have to provide teachers with curriculum online, our curriculum is in two different languages and whether it's lesson plans or student fact sheets, teachers can use them and we've had great feedback. we have helped public and private schools in san francisco increase their waste use and students are working hard to sort waste at the end of the lunch and understand the power of reusing, reducing, recycling and composting. >> great job. >> i've been with the department for 15 years and an environmental educator for more than 23 years and i'm grateful for the work that i get to do, especially on behalf of the city and county of san francisco. i try to use my voice as intentionally as possible to suppo support, i think of my grandmother who had a positive attitude and looked at things positively. try to do that as well in my work and with my words to be an uplifting force for myself and others. think of entering the job force as a treasure hunt. you can only go to your next clue and more will be revealed. follow your instincts, listen to your gut, follow your heart, do what makes you happy and pragmatic and see where it takes you and get to the next place. trust if you want to do good in this world, that [♪] >> i really believe that art should be available to people for free, and it should be part of our world, you shouldn't just be something in museums, and i love that the people can just go there and it is there for everyone. [♪] >> i would say i am a multidimensional artist. i came out of painting, but have also really enjoyed tactile properties of artwork and tile work. i always have an interest in public art. i really believe that art should be available to people for free, and it should be part of our world. you shouldn't just be something in museums. i love that people can just go there, and it is there for everyone. public art is art with a job to do. it is a place where the architecture meets the public. where the artist takes the meaning of the site, and gives a voice to its. we commission culture, murals, mosaics, black pieces, cut to mental, different types of material. it is not just downtown, or the big sculptures you see, we are in the neighborhood. those are some of the most beloved kinds of projects that really give our libraries and recreation centers a sense of uniqueness, and being specific to that neighborhood. colette test on a number of those projects for its. one of my favorites is the oceanview library, as well as several parks, and the steps. >> mosaics are created with tile that is either broken or cut in some way, and rearranged to make a pattern. you need to use a tool, nippers, as they are called, to actually shape the tiles of it so you can get them to fit incorrectly. i glued them to mash, and then they are taken, now usually installed by someone who is not to me, and they put cement on the wall, and they pick up the mash with the tiles attached to it, and they stick it to the wall, and then they groped it afterwards. [♪] >> we had never really seen artwork done on a stairway of the kinds that we were thinking of because our idea was very just barely pictorial, and to have a picture broken up like that, we were not sure if it would visually work. so we just took paper that size and drew what our idea was, and cut it into strips, and took it down there and taped it to the steps, and stepped back and looked around, and walked up and down and figured out how it would really work visually. [♪] >> my theme was chinese heights because i find them very beautiful. and also because mosaic is such a heavy, dens, static medium, and i always like to try and incorporate movement into its, and i work with the theme of water a lot, with wind, with clouds, just because i like movements and lightness, so i liked the contrast of making kites out of very heavy, hard material. so one side is a dragon kite, and then there are several different kites in the sky with the clouds, and a little girl below flying it. [♪] >> there are pieces that are particularly meaningful to me. during the time that we were working on it, my son was a disaffected, unhappy high school student. there was a day where i was on the way to take them to school, and he was looking glum, as usual, and so halfway to school, i turned around and said, how about if i tell the school you are sick and you come make tiles with us, so there is a tile that he made to. it is a little bird. the relationship with a work of art is something that develops over time, and if you have memories connected with a place from when you are a child, and you come back and you see it again with the eyes of an adult, it is a different thing, and is just part of what makes the city an exciting place. [♪] food in san francisco isn't just about expensive eat but food for everyone and there's organizations in the city that are doing really good work making sure that healthy food it assessable to everyone. more and more as follows are are becoming interested in upper arlthd they want to joy the open green pace sea know where their food it coming from we'll look at 3 programs talking ushering agricultural and garden to new heights. so what exactly it, your honor agricultural >> it the growing food or flowers within city limits traditionally we've been referring to communities gardener that is a raised bed over and over upper argument has a more a farming way of farming. >> so tell me 0 what's growing in this garden. >> a really at all plant. in the one of the rare places, you know, people have access to green space 24 is one of the places to grow things like the purple floor. it is sort of recognizing that the more diversity in given space the better not to just have one thing by everything supported each another >> it provides the community with an opportunity to get their hands dirty and reach 0 out and congressmen with the community in ways they might have not otherwise to engage with one other. >> now the dpw urban planning program so see how the garden community. >> so i grew up on a farm in air force base we picked the foods open the trees and share with other families and as i drive around san francisco i see any trees with apples or mrumdz and lemon trees i can see the food going to waste and brought that idea back to the department many of the trees where the fruit would go to waste we origin or crop and pick other fruits and delivery this to food banks or shelters to people who need them. >> i'm here with nang wong hello nang. >> hello. >> i need to understand house this gleaning work. >> we come and harvest like for example, we'll come over here this is the lemon and plug it like this. >> (laughter). >> made that good, good and ease. >> the trick is how not to hurt the branches. >> like the thing. >> i'm so excited about this. the people are so passionate about where the food goes to the private property owners give us the food they're happy that no of a t is going to waste >> oh. thank you. thank you. again job aura natural >> (laughter). >> from backyards to back lots let's take a look at the food and community bonding at the free farm. >> my idea was to start growing food and giving it away. and getting my neighbors to who had space and having a kind of event that brings people together not to run our food program this time around but to share the wealth of the abundance of our welfare. we were all divorce and as part of our philosophy of working together and working together. >> what's the most rewarding aspect of volunteering for the free farm stand. >> well, we could is a generalic satisfaction but something about giving food away it's giving something i brought that in and sort it and gave it to you it's primitive to be able to give something some basically to someone else. >> now serving number to 49 come on down. >> we have the capability of producing this food and in san francisco you can grow food all year round so the idea we're capable of prougdz food in our own backyards we're here to demonstrate an bans of food and i think that giving it away for free we show individuals it in have to be a comedy. >> we build time together and it's the strength of any ideas of the connections we'll turn that connection and the more connections you make no mistake about it the more you can have a stronger power and not have to rely on money that's the people power. >> in this episode we've seen the urban farms and gardens provide more in fruits and vegetation people can have the special produce available it can be a place to give back by donating food to others and teach our children the connection to the earth and >> good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. or good afternoon, rather. and we're glad to show you a picture of how our city did this past year on public safety. in particular our crime numbers, our crime statistics. we have a lot of good news to announce and we're going to share with you the good news and some of the challenges and strategies that we have ahead for this year 2020. but i want to begin by welcoming our mayor here, mayor london breed. she's been incredibly supportive of the men and women of our police department, and the work that we're doing to make our city safer. so wowght further adieu i'd like to introduce mayor london breed. >> mayor london breed: thank you, thank you, chief and to the command staff that are joining us here today as well as all of the members of the san francisco police department who serve our city every single day. i think that they do an amazing job. and it's one that needs to be acknowledged and today we want to talk about some of the great work they've been able to do over the past year that has gotten our city to a better place. but i do want to take it back just a little bit because i always talk about growing up in the city to give people a perspective of how things used to be. and where we are now. and many of you know that the community that i grew up in was very challenging community and there was a lot of violence. and, sadly, a lot of loss of life to gun violence in particular. when we think about what used to happen in the 1980s and the early 1990s and how things escalated and the number of homicides that happened all over the city, especially in neighborhoods that are in the western edition and in the mission, the fact that we are at an all-time low in homicides in our city is absolutely incredible. 41 homicides, of course, are 41 too many. but the fact is that this is the lowest number of homicides that we've seen since 1961. it is unbelievable, but we didn't get there by accident. we worked hard to achieve the success that we've been able to achieve. ultimately we want to ensure public safety of all residents of san francisco, and that involves, yes, police presence, but it also involves working together with the community. and so during the time when i worked in the community at the african american art and culture complex, in fact, many of the command staff served as the captain of a northern police station, including the captain mcgekrin and captain ann maddox who are now deputy chiefs for this department. we worked together on those issues to try and to address not only the public safety challenge, but also how do we do more to serve the community and to give back so that that never happens in the first place. and it's a very well-rounded approach and it's very necessary and we are seeing the results in the numbers that i know that the chief is going to talk about later on today. it does take a lot of hard work, it does -- as they say, take a village. and it does require a relationship with our police officers. and i will say that what i do appreciate about san francisco police department in comparison to any other department in this country is how hard they work to develop relationships with the community. and oftentimes it's not always acknowledged for things they do to go above and beyond which builds the bridge necessary in order to cop keep the communitis safe, not just around the challenges of what we deal with with violent crimes, but we know that san francisco's largest challenge is homelessness. and we have many officers often times who are the first to encounter people out on the streets. what you don't hear about is when they're spending their own money to pay for hotel rooms or socks or food or a number of other things, when they are providing services which are outside of the scope of what their responsibilities are. they care about the work that they do to keep the public safe. they care about the people of san francisco. and they have a responsibility, of course, to ensure all residents are safe. but they are compassionate. they work hard. and many of the policies that we put into place here in san francisco, including our policies around deescalation and anti-bias training and a number of other things have really set the stage for so many other departments all over this country to follow. and so i am proud of the work that they have done and they'll continue to do for the residents of this city. it is getting us to a better place as we can see with the statistics. but i know that these statistics don't matter when, sadly, you or your family are a victim of violence or any other crime that exists, which is why we're working hard every single day to ensure that this department is fully staffed. and that continues to be a challenge. but the fact is that we are not fully staffed. and when we are being asked for support for beat officers and more traffic control officers and other things, you know, we don't always have the capacity to meet the need. and i am definitely committed to continuing to fund more police academy classes and to work harder on recruitment efforts, but this is going to be necessary providing additional officers, especially as the officers retire. it's going to be critical to the success of the future of this city and in keeping people safe. and we have added beat officers where we know that they're needed and the things to help to deal with the challenges that we know that a growing city like san francisco has. and we also are aware -- we're not naive -- that there is definitely more that we need to do and can do to ensure safety for all of us. so i'm grateful and to the men and women of the department for everything that they have done to get us to this point. i know that working together we will be able to improve upon these numbers for next year and with that i'd like to take this opportunity to ask the chief to come back to the podium and to talk more in detail about where we are with our statistics here in san francisco as it relates to violence and property crime. thank you. >> mayor, thank you. okay, again, i want to emphasize the mayor's leadership and how important it is to have a city leader that really takes a stand on public safety that she does. so thank you again, mayor, for your leadership and for your support. as i said we're pleased with the way that our statistics trended in 2019, particularly with violent crime. the mayor mentioned our homicide rate being the lowest since 1961. but as most of you probably know, there's a monthly report that provides a snapshot of where we are at any point in time, month-to-month. and you can see on the poster board that we have to my right, your left, highlights from our year end 2019 report. and what it will show you is that homicides which are down 11% as the mayor said, 41 homicides, the lowest since 1961, and the rates down 15%. and robberies and aggravated assaults each dropped 4%. all of this is thanks to the hard work of the men and women of the san francisco police department which includes our investigation bureau and the units and our plainclothes officers and our foot beat officers and also in partnership with many diverse communities that we serve around our city. our officers put themselves at great risk protecting the people of our city, oftentimes without recognition. and i want to thank them publicly today for the work that they do. none of this could be accomplished without the work of the men and women of the san francisco police department. violent crime is always going to be a top priority. and we think that what you see from our statistics is that we're making steady progress to reduce violent crime in our city. as i said 41 homicide says the lowest since 1961, but to illustrate the point even more emphatically, since 2017 our city had a steady decrease in violent crime as we have shifted resources to impact the areas of the city, of our city that are impacted the most. now this is at the same time that we had tremendous challenges with property crime as well. and as you will hear in a minute we have reduced property crime this past year and we're pleased with the two-year reduction and car break-ins. but the mayor illustrated this and i'll reemphasize this, when you are a victim of a violent crime really the stats and the statistics really don't matter when it happens to you. and we understand that. and that's why building relationships are so important. that's why our strategies focus on prevention, rather than reaction. and that's why we work so hard to deter these crimes before they happen. we want you to know that for the people of san francisco that we will do everything that we can to prevent you from being a victim of crime. at any event that you are, our job is to solve the crime, to catch the perpetrators so that person can be held to account for what he or she might have done. in that regard, you know, we've had a number of high-profile cases in 2019, and we have solved many of them. and now it's up to the criminal justice system and our jury system that we believe in and our court system to take it from there. but i want to reemphasize when those crime does occur, we will do everything in our power to solve these crimes and to bring these individuals to justice. and we have done just that. we don't solve them all. we work to solve them all. but we are going to work very hard to make sure that people who can commit crimes in our city are held to answer. with that our homicide rate this past year was 71% deterrence, which is a good thing for us because we do believe that not everybody is committing homicides in our city. there's a small amount of people. and we could solve these crimes and get those people off of our streets, it will make our city safer. we want to be more visible. we want to have more officers on the street. we know that when officers are present, people think twice before they commit crimes. so it's really important and we had a non-profit or an academic researcher that came in and to study our foot beat strategies and what they told us is that there was significant reductions in both larceny and assaults when we deployed foot beats and we upped our foot beats in late 2017. we continue that strategy and we want that to continue. and that's why it's so important that we're able to recruit and get the finest in our police department to fill our ranks so we can continue these strategies and make them more robust. with that, we are boosting our policing efforts. we all know in 2017 that we took a stand in the u.n. plaza area and we put out a mobile command post there. and we increased our foot beat patrol there is, and it made a difference. we'll continue that with our mid-market foot beats and thanks to mayor breed and her emphasis on community policing with the men and the women that i'll introduce in a minute, our leadership teams, we'll further increase our foot patrols and focus continually on the mid-market area. i talked to many people, business owners, residents and visitors, who have told me personally they have noticed a difference when our officers are out there. that's why we need our officers out there and we need them engaged and to do the job of preventing and deterring crime. this will also support our deployment to other issues that we have to respond to throughout the downtown area to make the place safer for all to enjoy. the next thing that i want to talk about is education. which is a key part of our crime prevention efforts and we've had our smart campaign for a number of years now, a couple years now, anyway. and we really do believe that that made a difference. but i want to go into detail on how that came about. and we'll have the chief there along the wall and we had many campaigns to reduce property crimes but the point is, number one, it was a collaborative effort. when it was assigned the deputy chief was captain lazar and with the community members it came from the community and we all helped to foster that but it came from the community. what we intend to do with that message is to be vigilant and be resilient. don't leave your property to make it easy for somebody to make you a victim. lock your doors and don't leave things visible in your car, because you have more of a likelihood of being a victim of property crime. those public education campaigns work, they're effective and we have to do them to work in partnership with our community. this is a community effort, a drop in property crime is a collaborative effort and we have to have that continue. next i want to talk about our gun-related violence. as we know the majority of the homicides in the city traditionally have been firearm related. in 2018 -- or 2017, actually, under the leadership of the then commander greg mccapern we had a crime gun investigation center with. that our focus is really on two things -- first of all, identifying those guns that are used repeatedly in crimes in our city, not only in our city but in the region. and the second is to identifying the individuals that use those guns so that we can hold them to account for their crimes. last year our crimes gun investigation center led to the seizure of 96 firearms, not 96 in total but 96 from this investigation center. some of which you see on the table to my right. these include unregistered machine guns, short billed rifles and silencers, and their efforts helped to bring about 90 federal and state arrests and indictments and generated over 300 leads to multiple firearm incidents. this has been a game changer in terms of building strong cases to get people who are willing to use firearms against another human being off of our streets which in turn makes our city safer. now this is a key component of our strategic plan and our strategic initiatives which emphasize the collaboration with other city agencies and community members. in october we also hosted our first gun violence summit which is led by our director of crime strategies director tiffany sutton who is also to my left. in that summit we sat down with the community members to reduce strategies and to reduce gun violence, particularly in the bay view direct that is hard hit by gun violence. each district has specific challenges and we have to be nimble and to work with community-based organizations and community members to address our strategies to each neighborhood across our city. our crime strategy division, they're really doing the work of crunching the data and providing officers with the feedback on how to deploy resources to best meet the needs of our city. ultimately we want to do all that we can to improve our responsiveness and to make our city a safer city. we have a lot more work ahead, we know that. it's been said, and the mayor said it, and i said it and you will hear us say time and time again, one homicide is too many and we know that we have challenges, but with that we intend to work with the community, we intend to continue to reinvent ourselves and to make the adjustments that we need to make in order to make our city the safest city that we can make. with that i thank you for joining us today. mayor breed is on a very tight schedule and we'll take a few questions and she'll have to depart in a moment but we're glad to answer a few questions before she has to depart. thank you. >> (indiscernible) how many do you need? >> we want to put them in the streets and our charter number is 1,971 and we're about a hundred away but let me explain a bit of detail and that number does include our airport and it doesn't include other issues that have to keep the officers off the street so we're about a hundred away and we're doing to recruit and to put the people in the academy and to get them on the streets because that's where they're going to go and and the bodies are needed and the officers are needed in the streets and so that's where we plan to put them. >> (indiscernible). >> i know that in previous years we saw something less than 2% of the break-ins. >> if you are talking about car break-ins, that is hovering around 2% and that's a difficult crime to solve. however, what we have done in the last couple years and we have said this publicly is that we try to focus on those crews and individuals who we know are prolific and i think that our officers do a good job of that and we track who we arrest and we also track when they get out and if we get evidence or receive evidence that those individuals are involved in further car break-ins we try to devise strategies to kept tiewfer them -- capture them again. but the numbers are important in terms of holding people to account. but here's another thing that we all need to try to remember. ultimately, you know, our leaders and our city and in our state and our voters have decided how they want to see things play out in terms of incarceration. the prison population is way too big and everybody has been working to reduce that, including our city leaders, so we have to be strategic and focused on those people that are doing most harm to our city and that's what we try to do and that's what we'll continue to do and we have had success with that so we'll continue that strategy and, you know, even if we were to solve 100% of those crimes, if we're having 25,000, 26,000 car break-ins every year and some are repeat offenders, we know that, we don't have the space in our jails for that type of population. so we have to think past just arresting people. that's why prevention is so important and the backside of what type of programs they get involved in is so important. and the mayor's programs and the jobs for all and those things to keep people out of harm's way in the beginning, they all come together and they are presenting a strategy. so we need to support that. >> (indiscernible) the practices going forward and looking towards 2020, in other words, working with them. >> number one, it tells us where we need to focus and we always assess what is working and not working. for instance, we made it definite to michael's question about the enforcement strategies a few years ago, we were arresting a lot of people. but the part that was missing is that we didn't complement that with the presence and the foot beat presence that we know that works. so now we're trying to balance that and when we look back at 2019 and see what works and what we need to work on, we'll make those assessments again but it's the balance of the enforcement side and the preventative side and making sure as much as we can that we focus on the preventative side. that's our job, really to prevent crimes from happening in the first place. so we'll continue to do that and to focus on that. >> a follow-up. looking forward then, and working with the new district attorney, how does that work in templeterms of making sure thate arrests that you make are then prosecuted? >> well, a few things that we have to do -- and i want to -- i want to, you know, to call out and thank my leadership team and our leadership team, and the assistant chief mosher and mcchecker rercen. and we're all on the same page, we need to provide the best cases that we can provide the district attorney so that his prosecutors -- when it's appropriate to charge these cases can charge these cases. we have to stay focused on our jobs, our job is not to prosecute cases but to -- when those crimes do occur we do our investigation thoroughly and we make sure that we get the evidence there and we give the district attorney and his team the good cases to prosecute. and we need to be open to new ideas. we have to be open to new ideas. and there's been a call for changes in the criminal justice system. and we're one piece of that system but we have to be open to strategies that hold people to account but past that as i said, what next. what happens after they do their jailtime, are they going to come back to our city and be assets and good for our city, or come back and victimize people and harm our city? so there's a lot that goes into that and it's not just about policing and we have to support those programs that help us to do that. and equity is an issue in policing and we have to be equitable with how we approach our jobs and all of that matters. so it's a lot to look at and very complex but we're up to the test and we're going to continue to push on. >> getting back to auto burglaries. you have talked about prevention. is there more that could be done there, particularly with people from out of town and rent cars and go to places where tourists go. >> there is, and we're questioning -- questioning that and i know that when the mayor was on the board of supervisors they crafted legislation for the rental car companies to make it less obvious by the markings and that on the rental cars. they are big steps in the right direction and we can't control what happens outside of our city and county but we have been working with the rental car companies on safety messaging. you will see the park smart campaign, posted in the rental cars, and the offices, those things help. working with our consular officers so when they have their constituents coming in from their respective countries that the message is consistent about prevention. people come here to visit our city and their cars get broken into or their luggage is stolen and their passports and all of their papers are gone, that's a big problem for people. so we have to spread that message anyway that we can and those things are continuing. we're always looking to improve them and to evolve in that regard. but there is more -- always more that can be done. >> a couple more questions or one more question and then smaller groups. >> chief... (indiscernible) this is a national emergency with the break-ins. (indiscernible). >> for car break-ins, there is not a whole lot of -- well, as far as i know there's not any federal prosecutions directly related to car break-ins. and some of the side issues that come from car break-ins and guns are stolen and that type of thing, sometimes it's appropriate to pursue federal -- pursue those relationships with our federal partners to hold to account those type of violations and somebody gets caught with a gun and they're they're a convicted felon and those issues, that it could be appropriate to pursue federal charges on those. which car break-ins, many times that happen. and we will pursue federal charges when it's appropriate to do so, when we want to use every opportunity, every resource and every partnership to make our city a safer city. (♪) (♪)