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Supervisor haney thank you. Madam clerk, will you please call the roll. [roll call] clerk mr. Chair, you have a quorum. Cha. Supervisor haney thank you, madam clerk, can you call the first item. [agenda item read]. Supervisor haney thank you, madam clerk. This is obviously a hugely Important Initiative for our city. Its one where i think it reflects the best of the partnership between city college and sfusd and one that is obviously of importance to the city and county of San Francisco, as well. Its one that i know that supervisor walton and i had the opportunity to see and grow and strengthen at the time we were on the board of education and i want to thank the leadership of the board for supporting it and funding it, and i want to thank the extraordinary staff who are here from both institutions. Its incredible to see how much growth that is been in this partnership over the past five or six years, going from something thats nascient, had a couple of good parts in it, to one thats part of both institutions. I think its very exciting in something that our city as a whole should be embracing and supporting. So with that, i want to see if president randolph has any opening comments, as well. This was an item that he had requested, and were very excited about it, as well. Yeah. Thank you, supervisor haney, mr. Chair, for requesting this item. When i joined the board of trustees on city college in 2015, it was important for me to strengthen the partnership that we had with city college and the School District. For us to have a thriving city and successful students, it was important for us to make sure that students were graduating from sfusd have a pathway to education but also exposed to college while theyre still in high school. I was very excited that we were able to restart the joint committees between the school board and the city college board, and i want to thank both especially you, supervisor, for serving on that joint committee for several years. And i want to thank president cook for making sure that city college was able to be at the table when this joint committee was reestablished here at the board of supervisors because i think it is important for us all to be working together. Im very excited that the staff has been working really, really hard over the last five years to kind of reestablish the ties. And not only reestablish them, but significantly strengthening them. Youre going to be seeing today reports and actually data that show that we are actually making an impact with the students that we really, really care about. Im really, really excited to see this presentation and i want to thank the staff thats been here, thats been working extremely hard over the last several years to make sure this partnership not only gets reestablished, but it grows. And with that, im looking forward to having this discussion. Supervisor haney thank you, president randolph. With that, are there any members of the committee that wish to comment . We this fancy equipment . Just want to say and echo the comments of president randolph that we are so, so proud of our partnership with sfusd. As an sfusd graduate, i know how important our partnerships are, and i want to continue to strengthen that partnership. So really looking forward to this presentation and thank you everyone for bringing this to this committee. Supervisor haney thank you for that. Well start now with the presentations. Were going to hear first from sfusd and then after that, city college, so if i can ask the presenters from sfusd to come up and to state your name and your title before you begin the presentation. Thank you. Working now . There we go. Okay. Good morning, commissioners, trustees, and board of supervisors. Thank you for inviting us here today to give this update. My name is joanna feit, and i work in the office of curriculum and instruction in the office of college and career readiness, and we have several parts of our team that actually work do direct services for on ramp on to post secondary options. Today im going to give you an overview of the background of dual enrollment and give you some data and then give you some time to ask questions. So the background historically dual enrollment was serving students that are higher achieving students. They were selfenrolling and attending city college usually after school. And then, when we received the first Adult Education grants, we shifted to serve underrepresented students for dual enrollment. Another initiative that helps this cause was Assembly Bill 288, which allowed courses from city college to be at our high school campuses. So we have four models of dual enrollment that we run. The first we call ab 288, which means its during the school day at the high school. And one of the recent ones that we are very excited about is around the fire science pathway at Mission High School. We have been working together with supervisor walton, the chief of the Fire Department and city college and plan to actually, we already started that pathway this year, and currently, were just in the process of figuring out the next courses and how to what budget we will use and how that will be able to be sustainable in order to grow the diversity and the workforce for the Fire Department in San Francisco. Our second model is early dismissal, and we have two schools that participate in this. And in this model, what we do is we send a Yellow School bus from sfusd that will pick up the entire senior class from those schools, and they bus them to city college for them to take afternoon classes. Those afternoon classes are usually pathway classes and classes that are transferrable to u. C. And c. S. U. Our third model is the afterschool model for our world language classes, and we also have ninth graders that are bussed over to city college to take mandarin classes and spanish classes, and then, we have a Robust Program in the summer. Many of them are here today. Thank you for that. Some of the supports that we provide are the bus. We also provide textbooks to all the students. Its about 100 per textbook on average. We also have laptops that they can do their work at city college. And then we have orientation and counseling sessions with students at the college, and then, we have outreach sessions so we can get the students that we want participating in open enrollment. So the colors are representing the years, and what you can see in the trends is we have been consistently increasing in the numbers of students that are participating in dual enrollment. And not own participating, but these numbers show the students that have passed classes in dual enrollment. This next slide shows you the change in ethnicity of students that have been participating in these classes. Like i mentioned in the beginning, originally, it was our high achieving students, and as the years have gone on and weve been doing targeted outreach, you can see our latino numbers are at 23 . Historically, city college are about 27 latino so were just about mirroring our graphics for sfusd and were continuing to get to that point. This slide shows the average credit students earned in dual enrollment. One of the reasons this has really grown is the fact that students are not only taking one course in high school, theyre taking multiple courses, and some students will leave high school with almost a full year of Community College completed. We also have been intentionally working on creating picking dual enrollment pathways that fit into our pathway courses or c. T. Courses at our high school. So we work with city college to figure out which classes best fit that pathway at that school and best matches the vision for the school and the district. So what can happen when we actually target certain populations . These next slides are going to show the growth. For African American students, weve seen a 900 growth since we first started. We embedded a lot of supports in there to make sure it was a successful initiative. Im happy to say that all the latest students have passed with a c or better, so that was a huge success. Were planning to do something similar with lab tech, and the intention is by the end of the summer, they would be actually hirable to work at a lab as a lab technician. Our latin numbers have also increased tremendously along with our English Learners. And this big increase you see in 1718 and 1819 are mostly due to the schools that were reaching out to. One school that we have is our international school. The entire senior class participates in this. And Thurgood Marshall also participates in this, and they have a freshman class that participates in dual enrollment. The last is our i. E. P. S, and were hoping to get more. What were working with city college is the accommodations that are very different between the accommodations that we offer in high school and the accommodations that we offer at city college, so that is something that were working on to resolve the issue. Another way that students can earn credit for dual enrollment is the Early College interns. And the Early College interns have three parts to it. The first is that they take a college course, the second part is they have a paid intern that goes along with it, and the third part is they have an sfusd seminar that goes along with it. You can see in the last year, 2019, we had a huge increase, and that was mostly because dcyf funded this program for us. So in this slide, you can see its mostly 10th and 11th and 12th graders that are participating in this. Thats mostly due to the maturity levels, and the recommended 120 credits requirement for city college, the recommended 120 credits to be in dual enrollment. And the paid internships the students are doing in the summer are at our Elementary Schools that are open or at our c. B. O. S working with our own children. So how does dual enrollment actually Impact College enrollment . In this slide, what you can see is the students that actually participated in dual enrollment and enrolled in college directly after graduating for high school. The red line are the students that did not participate in dual enrollment but also enrolled in some sort of college directly after high school. And what you can see is that for every group of students except for white or caucasian, the number increased if they participated in dual enrollment. So the last thing i want to cover before ending the presentation is some ideas on strengthening our partnership that we have been discussing with city college . So in this in this table, what i wanted to point out is on the last column for spring 2020, we you can see that we put in 17 requests for courses for our ab 288 courses, the ones at the school sites, but were only going to be able to offer ten, and this is due to Budget Constraints at city college that theyre currently trying to resolve. T the celebration in this is our high schools are wanting more and more classes from city college because our partnership has been going so successfully. So some of the im highlighting here the four highlevel initiatives, ideas that we have for improving our partnership . One is improving what part of the table that i just mentioned, which is offering more ab 288 classes that are aligned with the schools and the districts visions. The other thing is around having acceptive student counseling that includes timely student progress reports so that we can address intervention plans with our students before they get to the point that they fail out of a class or they want to drop out of a class. We would also like to provide professional development to the city College Instructors who Teach High School students because we can we would be able to provide them with best practices for Teaching High School students. And finally, its around studentcentered policies and procedures to pay fees for dual enrollments and for textbooks and for buses. Currently, all this comes out of funding through grants that we receive, so at some point when our grants go away, if they go away, a lot of this programming could go away because we would not have the funding or wed have to find other funding for it. So that is the end of my presentation, and if there are any questions . Supervisor haney thank you so much for your presentation. Are there any i have a few, but supervisor walton. Supervisor walton thank you so much for the presentation, miss feit . Yes, correct. Supervisor walton just a statement and a couple of questions. One, i definitely love the dual enrollment work, especially when were talking about pathways and connections to careers, which i get real excited about and just want everyone to know from city college and sfusd that im going to make it part of my charge to make sure that the funding and the resources are available for us to have those types of pathway programs because i know that funding issues always come up and concerns always come up in that area. So you have my commitment on that. Looking at slide 14, i just quick question. Do we have a breakdown in terms of the first language of English Learners . Can we get that . Well, the highest number is spanish, and then, it would be mandarin, and then it keeps going. Like at s. F. International, they have about 24 different languages. Supervisor walton okay. And then on slide 15, i know you talked about differences in terms of accommodations for students with i. E. P. S in sfusd and ccsf. Can you just give an example of what happens differently . Yeah. So some of the accommodations that high school offers, for example, might be a shortened assignment or a modification in the actual content, and some of those accommodations, city college is not able to offer, i believe, but i would allow i would Like City College to talk more about their part of their accommodations because im not totally familiar with that part, but i do know that theres certain accommodations that theyre not able to offer. Supervisor walton thank you. Can anybody from city college just and we dont have to go in detail. Im just trying to get an idea of what so your question hi. Im the associate vice chancellor of instruction. And your question is on our disabled Student Services and what we have for accommodations . A student, according to our the laws that we have to abide by by the state has to identify themselves and go to what we called our d call our dsps Services Office and show what accommodations they need. Theyll then get paperwork which then allows for the instructor to be able to adhere to some of those accommodations. For example, they can have extra times on tests, they can have their test in a different area where its quiet, and there are other accommodations depending on if they need a note taker, etc. , etc. Its actually quite wide. Do they need a service dog . Do they need so these these are all done through our dsps services, but in college, you have to selfidentify. Supervisor walton so there is no, like, transfer, if you had an i. E. P. Or the student has to bring that i. E. P. To to their im afraid that thats the laws that we have to abide by. Supervisor walton thank you. Ill just add to that, thats one of the hard part for our students, is having to go selfadvocate without their case manager there, so that becomes a little difficult for our students to do. Supervisor walton thank you. Supervisor haney commissioner cook . President cook thank you, again, for the presentation. I love this program. I love dual enrollment. I participated in dual enrollment when i was a student at thurgood, and i would take english classes at night. Its a wonderful thing to see the growth in classes in high school. Ive seen the partnership evolve, so congratulations. Thank you. President cook some of the i wrote a resolution, along with mark sanchez last year, which i didnt hear reference in this presentation, but the idea of that was to figure out how to decrease barriers for students that want to engage in dual enrollment specifically as it related to the credit requirement and getting a letter from your principal. Are you familiar with that . Yes. I was at that meeting. President cook okay. Can you tell me if that has been taken up by family yeah. So weve been talking about that, and city college trusts that if weve given them a consent form, that they have the 120 credits or if they dont, that theyve been approved to go without the 120 credits. And also, that the High School Pathways students dont have 120 credits. And also in terms of the consent form, if the consent form gets denied, it comes to our office and we will override the denial and theyre good to go. President cook yeah. So part of the president randolph and i just had a meeting with the president of the Compton School board. In there, theyve expanded Middle College to integrate College Classes into the ninth grade and through the whole high school. Were going to continue the discussions with them. You mentioned something in your presentation about 120 credits and the maturity level of students and, you know, to build on the success of the program, what im trying to see happen is we we have more ninth graders enrolled from sfusd at city college. And so and so the g. P. A. Requirement, the credit requirement, and the timing for families can be kind of inconvenient. So if, for example, a student who is credit eligible didnt know the opportunity existed by the time that summer came, and they cant get ahold of their principals, they cant take classes over the summer. That was one of the reasons that i would be trying to get rid of the parental so theyd come to us, and wed approve them to be able to take the summer classes. The approval does require a parental signature, but then, we sign off on those. President cook okay. So if theres something that says if you cant get ahold of your principal, send it to this office . Yes. President cook and where are we with plans in expanding city college to the ninth grade . Do we have any growth goals around it . Well, we have been trying to increase our spanish cohort and world language. The other discussion around city college is doing embedded in the high school some College Success and basic College Success classes, but were still just in conversation around that. Oh, okay, so were increased from 23 to 79 ninth graders already, but we are in conversation how we can embed for classes for all ninth graders. President cook mmhmm. And i did want to celebrate the fact that we are seeing more latinos taking more College Classes. We just had this whole discussion at the School District around the sbac scores, and it launchesd this investigation for me around the enrollments at all of our high school. In looking at the numbers, the highest count of African Americans at Mission High School, 161 students, what type of partnerships i know that fire science is coming up, but what type of partnerships so for many years, theyve had a class, c 150, a College Readiness class. Theres other courses, but they have had classes almost consistently for the past two or three years. President cook Mission High School and Lincoln High School have 113. Yeah. So with Lincoln High School, weve been working with supervisor mar. He especially wants more classes in the afternoon so that they can invite more community members. But they consistently have two courses. With mars initiative, they currently have three courses. Theyre currently running a sign language class, so they currently have courses every semester. President cook okay. I bring this up specifically around the need to partner with schools to engage African American students. Mission, washington, lincoln, with the engagement, what i want to continue the conversation about is what the engagement looks like at those sites where we have the highest number of students. And based on your great work, what we see in students that African American students that want to take classes around the schools. So one thing so for example, balboa, in recent conversations with their principal, one of his ideas is to rotate classes around African American students, pacific islanders, latin students, and he wants to rotate so theyre all getting informed about each others culture. And in the class that i was speaking earlier about interns that we were speaking about targeting, were talking about latinos. Were talking about schools so they can tell us the best places to do outreach so we can participate in dual enrollment. The other thing that we make sure is were adding things like an sfusd teacher that can support them with the content so theyre having a successful experience cook catego experience. President cook so the conversation with balboa cannen urge more students. The last thing i want going to mention i was going to mention was the conversation at this middle school to make themselves the first c. T. E. Middle school. When you go to that campus, you see some really impressive wood shop work thats happening along with the like, one of the last wood shops in the city, with, like, a great maker space. So if theres any school site that we could talk about possible credit for eighth graders, if we could do something that weve done at the high school level, so continuing a conversation would be really great. I will say a couple of things. Im not sure about the credit part. One, thats something that city college would have to answer in terms of eighth graders participating. But i do know last year, i collaborated with zach at city college, and he did field trips to city college. And also, we wrote and are writing again a strong workforce grant, which part of the it is our prepipeline work into middle schools to show them what they might engage in high school and beyond. Could someone address this eighth grader at the earliest opportunity . Well, we would have to explore this in a little bit more detail and see what would be a good fit for a course . And what we would want to make sure is wherever we put an eighth grader, they would be able to be successful. We dont want to throw an eighth grader into 13th grade work and set them up where they wont be successful. Were trying to very intentional . And i think you can see with this partnership, weve been very intentional, and i think with this partnership continuing to college, we want to continue to move in that direction. I find your idea with eighth graders to be very intriguing, so i think we should explore it. President cook thank you. Yeah, the weve done it on saturdays with ninth graders and other students, and weve done it in partnership with sfusd teachers. So my only the intent behind me pushing this and why i really want this partnership to grow to the ninth grade is because the game changes for students when they know they have a College Credit. If youre an eighth grader going into college, you already have a College Credit, your whole perception of yourself can be a game changer. Im not saying you disagree with that, im just saying that if we have that chance to give students the confidence around their ability, i want them to go into high school thinking of themselves as college students. Youre right. The data shows if we can get those Students College credit, especially if we can give them about nine credits of College Credit under their belt, it really creates success in transferring to city college. So yes, the more we can outreach and nurture and make sure their First Experience is a positive one, i think its better for all students. So we need to be intentional and thoughtful on how we take a class. Supervisor haney all right. Trustee randolph . Thank you, supervisor. First of all, let me congratulate you. Just looking at the shoot of Continual Growth and sheet of Continual Growth, its so heart warming to see what were doing on the board. I know when i first joined the board, supervisor haney was there, and it was very concerning to see this population amongst these students so small. And i think the consensus was on the committee back in 2015 was to really invest and grow specifically these four areas. And to see that weve not only grown it but grown it dramatically every single year, and that its a trend going up, especially amongst English Learners, its an exciting thing. So its kudos to all of you for the work that youve put in, and the intentional work that youve put in on this, its very, very, very, very exciting. And one of the reasons i wanted to have this discussion here is because it is important for us to really invest in this. And what we learned at those Committee Meetings was that depending on Grant Funding is not the best way to have a longterm sustainable planning process even with success. If you have to renew it every single year or plan it every single year, its hard to plan out for the next ten years and plan for the next group of students to go through this, especially if you plan on creating a middle and college. You have to have a funding source. So thank you, supervisor walton, for your commitment to this. I think it may be important to have at a future meeting, and while our entities go through the budget process, is one, to say we cant offer as many classes, for example, due to funding, it would be helpful to have an estimate on how much more we actually need in annual funding, one, in order to grow or continue to grow because if were hitting a ceiling because theres no additional funding there, then that is a problem. We shouldnt be refusing students who want to participate because of lack of funding. So an estimate of funding. And also, how much of current funding supports this program. Because if there are other solutions or mechanisms that we need to find, that would be very helpful. I know and i want to recognize james tracey here and a. F. T. 2121 at city college because we are working closely with them and others on the Community Education fund thats going to hopefully try to find that consistent and sustainable funding for every year for programs like this. So it would be important to have a baseline to know how much we need. So do you have any idea . What is the estimate this costs per year and how much more you need in order to be successful . I can give you an idea of what the cost is on the sfusd side . So on transportation, we probably spend about 100,000 100,000 per semester. And then on books, if you calculate one class, its about 3,500 for a class of 35. And we have 14 classes or ten, so i would say its about 35,000 but i would say its about 50 to 60,000 because knows those are just the ab 288 classes, and i know there are others, as well. And then, we have the teachers and the team that are able to support the students, as well. Do we have an idea on the city college side . Hi. Im meg hudson. Im the dean of High School Programs at city college, and ill be speaking soon to you. But in terms of the funding, well, i think our biggest funding is really in terms of offering the courses and traditionally, those have gone through the budgets of the departments, and so they have to look at, you know, their overall course, departmental course pathways and what they can offer. But i do want to say that we are starting with the 2021 school year, we are drastically trying to offer the numbers courses that we offer to meet the demands of sfusd schools and students. So in terms of the actual number, its hard for me to say. But its something that were aware of, and were working towards meeting the demands. It would be great while all three entities are successfully developing our budgets for the 2021 school year to see where the gaps are so we make sure that those are addressed. I cant think of a better way to invest less than 1 million than in the future of our youth here in the city. Literally, youre investing in the future success. I think maybe by another meeting or for us at least the budget and finance committee at city college maybe to understand in january or february what our costs are so that he with make sure that while we are dealing with a budget crisis in other areas, that we protect this specific area. So the other comments, youve talked about college aware, being college ready, but i think theres actually a third component of being college exposed. And its so nice to see the data actually know, that theres an increase in enrollees at city college, that theyre taking classes as city college before they even graduate from high school. And specifically, you know, from the targeted communities that we have, its so exciting to see that not only are they now aware of college, that they can actually go to college, but understanding what it means to actually go to college. When i was one of those students, i was told that college was not for me, that i was not ready to go to college, that i was not one of those people that could ever go to college. But then, to be able to take a class while you are still in high school and actually know yes, i am College Material is actually very, very exciting and actually making them feel confident about their ability is very exciting to actually have that data. And then, the final thing is in addition to, also, the funding is the programs like the Sciences Program at e. M. Fire Sciences Program at e. M. S. Because all of us continue to talk about our need to grow and educate First Responders here in San Francisco. And to have these programs right here in our back yanrd, and to have future teachers and First Responders coming from our area is exciting. Especially this is a new program, i was wondering, is there a commitment from both sides to at least keep it running for at least fourplus years because in order for something to be successful, you need to make sure it is available, right . Because if theres no confidence on the we have all the students, because it does take two years to go through, then youre already setting the program up for failure. So is there a commitment to create or have this on the schedule for the next at least four years or so . So theres obviously a commitment from sfusd to be able to provide this . I want to add one or two things. One, i forgot to add two costs. One is around fees for students because sometimes we have to bay for international students, and it adds up to about 10,000. Back to the fire science, previously, like meg was describing, we were given a certain number of f. T. E. That would describe the number of classes that we offered, and the Fire Sciences pathway would be about half of what we offered. So if that didnt change, it would be hard for me to say that we are able to continue it every four years because we would then be taking programming away from other schools and we want to be equitable to all of our schools, but given what city college just described, that theyre trying to figure out a way to increase the number of classes, then yes, hopefully, well be able to continue for more than one year. So yes, we are very much committed to continuing this program and its doing very well at Mission High School. And we do foresee continuing this program. And all the enrollees come towards our count towards our own enrollment funding, correct . Yes. The only time they would stop doing that is if they hit 10 of our f. T. S. , which they are nowhere near hitting that now. Thanks. Supervisor haney trustee williams . I think its really important that we have the future generation right behind us as were discussing this. Its so beautiful. I know. I want to echo the previous comments. Im really excited about expanding offerings, and i really want to get a sense from looking here of the requested classes. What are some of those requests . Like, where is that demand for . So if its a school that has Career Pathways or c. T. Pathways, theyre usually related to the pathways, like a health class or e. M. T. Or engineering class or biotech. And then other classes focus on classes that are transferrable to u. C. And c. S. U. S, and some popular courses are around general sciences, gender study. And c. P. R. Is a very common, very requested class. Its a oneday class, but its also something thats required in many careers, so its a very popular class, as well. [inaudible] okay. Yeah. And then, some of the ones that are around ethnic groups, as well. And for the paid internships, it looks like the child care is the only internship available at this time. Is there any additional internship opportunities or what does that look like in terms of offering expanding in terms of actual exposure . And child care is another actual class. But yes, there is planned theres already two in the works for next summer. One is around biotech, like i mentioned before where its going to be specifically for African American students and its going to be a paid internship, along with a class, and then were working on a health initiative, as well, and then were meeting with city College Health department to figure out what classes might need that. And then, we also have paid internships through Career Pathways and automotive and construction and law and several of their pathways. I think theres a really great formula that you have here, i think combining the sort of cohort model with the wraparound support and introducing students to the internship, its, like, a onetwothree punch. I think well see higher completion in College Entrance rates, which is really exciting for me as an s. F. Native. Yeah. Theyre getting credit for college, theyre getting paid, and theyre getting the experience. So were hoping the program, the package is more attractive to me. And fine question in terms of workforce partners, who do we have at the table in terms of developers and partners, what do we have at the table . And if theyre here, i also want to recognize them, as well, who are continuing to educate or students. Through the Career Pathways internships, they have collaborations with Industry Partners around the entire city, be it a law firm they have law firms and then health, and then ucsf. So partnerships all over the place. Well, congratulations. Thank you. This is really great to see. Thank you. Thank you. Supervisor haney commissioner collins. Thank you. I really appreciate this topic. Its really exciting to me. One of my areas of focus as a secondary educator was on this kind of college and career, and thinking of it beyond even just the credit idea but thinking about how you create collegegoing culture in a school, college talk, those are all parts of first generation students accessing college . And i think as a trustee, rudolph mentioned that students belong there. We know that a lot of students that have i. E. P. S are African Americans. We know that a lot of English Learners, the ones were seeing a really high increase in participation, which is really great, but were also seeing a lot of students that are demographically participating that are asian. So im looking at the english language learners and seeing what percentage are asian and what percentage are latinx. In the district, when were looking at participation rates, were seeing a higher number of asian than latinx. In my head, i know what our graphics are in the district. I know that African American students are around 7 , so seeing that in comparison, you can see the gap, right . And so it would be helpful, when youre showing how many, you know asian American Students are participating versus how many students are just in the system. Those are ways for us to see where the kind of where the gaps in representation are. And then all of that kind of leads me to ask, do we have set targets . How do you set targets . Like, im seeing increases, but theyre different varying levels of increase, and im wondering, is there a goal that were trying to work towards, and how do you articulate that . Our intention is to match sfusd demographics. Great. And some areas, were gaining but not having that impact. Yeah. And we do have that data ready that we could bring, yeah. That would be great. And then, additionally, im also seeing this meeting is kind of an example of how can we leverage partnerships for students, right . Because students dont experience individual kind of systems, they participate in programs that were all kind of participating in, and sometimes when were not working together, were not as successful. So im wondering about our partnerships, how are systems are working. Im wondering if we want to target folks across the city, and i wonder if we can talk about geography . I think its great that we have programs at lincoln. My mind automatically jumps to what about students in district 10 or what about students in chinatown . And is there a way to look at that geographic way . Is there opportunity in those districts . We do have students going from about 13 in our high schools participating in dual enrollment. But you increase access when you make it more available . And if were relying on transportation, that can be a barrier . And so its good that were providing for transportation, but its also a cost. Right. So if we can locate it all across the city, then were decreasing a barrier for a lot of students and were also doing that in a Cost Effective way because were not then having to Fund Transportation costs. Right. So for example, Thurgood Marshall, they do happen to have one class on campus, and then they have another class thats on campus because they need those facilities. And then, at fort mason, they have one right there. A lot of the schools are moving more and more towards wanting the classes at their high school because theyre able to provide more support for their students. So if theres a way to also make that visible, i think that also gets into the outreach piece, which is what we just shopped for high schools. Our daughters are ninth graders now, but even know about c. T. E. Programs, you have to do reach on each research on each individual school. And even when i was calling schools, id say whats going on here. And sometimes staff would know about whats going on, or theyd tell me you have to do the research. So if that research is online, and i have to do the research, thats inequitable. Im wondering, though, are we working directly with e. P. C. Ill be honest, im kind of frustrated with our e. P. C. Because were relying on our high schools to do the outreach. If im researching 15 high schools, its up to me to do the research. But these are high schools that have the opportunity for dual enrollment, that might help schools promote themselves and their programs, and i might go check it out . Im wondering, are you working with them, have you tried working with them and just getting more information on how were reaching middle schoolers and reaching their parents when theyre shopping for high schools . So currently, we have not works directly with e. P. C. , but this is the topic that you bring up is something weve been discussing quite a bit in terms of how to promote our programs . In terms of middle schools, we do outreach in terms of the world language piece . And i know in our collaboration with city college, weve been discussing where can we go to promote these, and is it at back to School Nights . Is it at open house . But we do need to be doing more promotion, and i know that pathways is also doing a lot of work promoting pathways around the h1 schools. I get the best ideas from my kids, and my daughter said they went to San Francisco state on a field trip. They thought the cafeteria was the coolest thing about the school experience, and every time now we drive by s. F. State, they point to it. In my opinion, every school should visit s. F. State and city college for students to build college talk and College Going culture. Im wondering in our middle schools, if we do that, we can say hey, you can Start College in high school at these sites and anywhere. But if you want it right where you are, these are the five high schools you should think about applying. So that gets into the curriculum piece, like, wheres the partnership we can have with folks that do middle school or counseling and i dont know if there is a person in sfusd like, i dont even know what the role of that person would be at the middle school level, like, who could be coordinating that stuff and do you know of anybody there at that level . Its funny that you mentioned because in the last grant and the current grant we just started writing, we talked about should we hire a specialist around pathways and dual enrollment, so it is in conversation. As i mentioned, we have sent some of our midschoolers to visit the middle schoolers to visit the makers campuses. But i love your options for tours or field trips, and we do have field trips for our High Schoolers to city college already. And theyre very successful. And im also putting this out to sfusd. Id love to be involved in these conversations because we have good intentions and were working in tandem, but were not working in partnership. We could do so much more in we connected our incompetenter piece, and its curriculum that maybe goes outside of the regular content areas, so its a piece that people talk about as the best practice, but it never happens because its never assigned to anyone. So i would love to maybe i can follow up on our side to see if we can get Curriculum Committee to take this up, you know what i mean . Yeah. And then, i ghes thuess that t other thing is, you can always be reaching out to Board Members because i think that were all going to be for this, right . So is there a convey that you can invite way that you can invite us out, just personally, these are platforms to talk about things, to be visible, to talk about it with our constituencies because its something we want to support and do support . But you know, invite us im putting all of my other fellow commissioners on there. You know, invite us to other opportunities to talk about this . I think the chatter is a way we can educate folks. And i also as Partnership Want to talk about budget, and i really appreciate chairman randolph for bringing that up. Id be interested in seeing what is the total budget of the committee and who is holding what up . And are there opportunities for us to do a better job of leveraging the kind of inhouse staffing that we have . But also, whos paying for what and are there opportunities for the city

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