We have been working now with two generations of Union Leadership to improve these vehicles. And we try to address concerns and some of the improvements that we have already made. I also shared by email this board and a response to a recent article that talks about white out for the cameras, and unfortunately, i believe there were several inaccuracies to that article. One of which is that the issue of glare is not unique to the l. R. P. Four or the fact that we use cameras instead of mirrors. The glare is most acute at west portal, which is why 15 years ago, we actually put up a convex mirror to provide additional availability visibility for our operators, which is part of how they are currently trained. [please stand by] we have, as part of the costing package that we originally brought to you, we have some place holder costs for what we anticipate things to be, so Something Like the flat wheels, which is an issue that both operators and mechanics have been raising for a long time are already built into that overall package that we brought, and at this time, we do not anticipate that package changing significantly, but theres still a lot of work to do as we get to those final estimates. So thats essentially where we are today. I know you had a long meeting, so i wont i wont go into too much more detail. I am committed to continuing these conversations. I know theres not an august meeting, but we will be back in september and im very hopeful that well start to see some strong traction on those 90day goals and really start to seeing these vehicles get to where we need them to be. Chair peskin thank you for your candor, the good news, the notsogood news, but really appreciate your constant updates to the sfcta. Are there any questions to miss kirschbaum from members . Supervisor safai . Supervisor safai yes. Thank you, miss kirschbaum, the flat wheels, i didnt see anything in your presentation, but that was the real reason that i wanted to have this presentation. What we learned from previous presentations is theres the way you all are training or have asked the operators to operate these vehicles is to hit the emergency mushroom versus using the manual break. The mushroom worked well, i think on the older brada is that how you say it . Brada. Supervisor safai i heard a life span of 100,000 miles versus 120,000. I know it is a mechanism that you just talked about. Youd have to ask the contractor, siemens to retrofit and change. Whats the cost of that overall to the entire system to fix that defect that was not known before purchase . Its about 30,000 per vehicle and about 5 million to 6 million total. Supervisor safai so is that something youll have to come back for approval or is that something youre asking the t. A. For . Its build into the package and prop k is one of the several Funding Sources that will go to address the overall replacement costs of these two. Supervisor safai so this was something that you would say based on the training of the operators because of what i heard you say about the whole emergency situations that people are safe, you taught them to hit the mushroom, and thats something that youve continued with the new system, the siemens . To clarify, we put a strong focus on using the mushroom on the brada vehicles. It was a campaign that took place a couple years ago, and it was based on some very serious safety issues, when we provided operators with familiarization on the new vehicle, we did highlight that you can get to the emergency break from the tstick, but many operators use that muscle memory and use that mushroom break when they have to make a lifeordeath decision. So we think that is a reality of operating two fleets at the same time. We will be continuing to operate a mixed fleet for the next four to six years, and during that time, well want to make sure to have as high a vehicle availability as possible. Supervisor safai so for you, it was a safety issue. That was why you didnt update the training and you encouraged the operators to use the mushroom. Is that what youre saying . We have made a strong investment in operators using the emergency button on the brada, which is the safest course of action. That same muscle memory theyre using when they use the l. R. V. 4s. Were not training them that way on the l. R. V. 4s, but thats what they do on the brada training. Supervisor safai so youre not encouraging them to use the mushroom on the brada . We are not. Supervisor safai so youre going to ask the 5 million to fix this . Yes. Supervisor safai so can we ask why that wasnt anticipated when you purchased the new vehicles because theyre, what, 3 million or 3. 5 million a vehicle . Thank you for that question. It is something that we learned along the way. So one of the things that we dont that we have learned with the l. R. V. 4s is the frequency of which operators are encountering these types of emergency situations where they need to use that. I think we underestimated the impact of operating two fleets, and that operators would need to maintain all of their brada skills while also adapting to the new vehicle. Supervisor safai and how much does this so you have to make a 6 million youre going to ask for a 6 Million Investment to change the brandnew vehicles that you just bought to accommodate this training. But before you do that, how much does it cost i understand you get flat wheels. What is it costing you for the system with that manner of using the emergency break rather than using a tstick . Its having two types of impacts. The first is that we have several vehicles that have had their wheels flattened too many times, and the entire wheel system needs to be replaced. Supervisor safai and whats the cost of that . [inaudible] so theres a Customer Impact such as crowding on our busy routes. Supervisor safai i mean, i guess, again, i just i know that again, im not accusing you. You just came into the position, but it makes no sense to me that we spend millions and millions of dollars on new vehicles, and we didnt anticipate vehicle replacements, we didnt anticipate training hours, we didnt anticipate trains being offline because we have one manner in which weve been training people to use one train, and that doesnt translate into the new train system. So its not really a 6 million increase, its significantly more than that from missing the opportunity to understand and again, this is not my area of expertise, this is your departments area of expertise, but it seems as though when you would be purchasing a vehicle, you would also understand or work with the operators to understand where they are in terms of the tool or the machine that theyre going to use to make this system effective. So again, i just asked the question. Why didnt that happen . Why were they not brought into the conversation to try to anticipate this stuff . Because you know, trains not being out the door means theres not trains and means theres a decrease in service in the system which decreases delays and frustration all over the city. Its very much what we as member of the t. A. And supervisors hear most frequently about the m. T. A. Theres not justienough vehicl the road. You seem to have went through a process of negotiation, and that went well, and now, were going to hire more operators, but it seems like this neverending cycle that, no pun intended, mushroom into these large issues for the agency. I think we share a common goal of trying to deliver Excellent Service for our customers and adjust problems as we see them, so i understand your attempt to i sign blame, and i apologize assign blame, and i apologize that i may not have the best understanding up to this point, but we are committed to our partners and moving forward on what is the best solution to this issue, which is putting additional track breaks on the vehicle. The testing of the brakes has been going smoothly. We anticipate in the next month or two, well be bringing it to the cpuc which is our safety and regulatory body and move from there. And im happy to answer any other questions. Supervisor safai i actually would like to hear from the operators to hear some of the insight that they have and as it pertains to some of the particular issues that they have with the old and new l. R. V. s. Earlier everybody was talking to safety, and safety pertaining to traffic, safety pertaining to pedestrians. Id like to talk about one word, blame, blame. If and when these new l. R. V. 4s, id like to ask you to please not blame the operators for manufacturing defects. Operators asked for a Rearview Mirror to be able to see in the back of their cab. Theres a Rearview Mirror that doesnt see anything, cant see anything. Operators asked for mirrors on the side of their trains so they could hopefully prevent people from being dragged under the trains as weve seen in the past couple of months, little old ladies and Senior Citizens. Two virtually identical situations of Senior Citizens being dragged under trains due to faulty doors. Very similar situations, however, the people that get blamed with it are the operators. I brought with me ramon galderamez, and hes more of an expert than i am. I only drove the p. C. C. S, and he drove the light rail, so he has a much more understanding of the defects related to the bradas, the l. R. V. 4s. However, i want everybody to take that word, blame. Its not the operators fault that they have a monitor approximately this size right here inside their vehicle in which theyre supposed to look 150, 160 feet back. And on top of that, their monitor whites out, as weve seen through the reporting thats been done on the some news stations. So please, lets just take that word into consideration and try and shift that blame, that focus. With that in mind, id like to bring up ramon galdamez. Good morning, commissioners. Im ramon galdamez. Ive been with the department 18 years. The light rail operators are deeply concerned about the safety mechanism in place on the lrv4s. They are concerned with the lrv4 not stopping in a timely manner. As you all know, the lrv4 has many issues, including a safety efficiency. Something needs to be done. We are being instructed to apply this. Proper planning appropriates poor performance. They should have come to this. Actually, i may know more about this equipment than i know about my wife. I spend 10, 12 hours on a daily basis. We are responsible for this equipment. As i stand before you, i am asking you to reconsider before we let this unat ttamed lion o dinosaur into the street. With that said, i will please implore you. I have had numbers of conversations and discussions with m. T. A. Team, and it seems like to be they are going down the tube. They are reluctant to do something about it because the trains are here, and we realize that being here means theyre going to force for us to adjust and to accommodate ourselves rather than saying we have something here that is something here that we have to deal with but its something thats not being built. Thank you. Supervisor safai thank you, gentlemen. Im happy to have someone else ask questions. But what i heard loud and clear, it doesnt sound like there was a lot of consultation with the operators when purchasing this. I guess, miss kirschbaum, if you could come back up, i have a couple questions. All those contracts with siemens are all the lrvs purchased and are we stuck with siemens going forward, or is this the only option that you all are committed to . I believe that addressing the design issues that were facing with the current vehicle is our best option the alternative would be to start from scratch and replace the bradas on a much slower time frame. Its anticipated that the First Vehicles would arrive six years from now, and until then, we would continue to operate them as best we could, which would not be very good for at least ten years. And its also very unlikely that the next vehicle that we purchased would not be it would likely be more expensive. Supervisor safai one of the things that i heard you say yesterday that was positive was that now that you have discovered this issue with the breaking mechanism going forward, the new siemens vehicles will be retrofitted, and you wont have all the mechanic hours and replacement is that correct . Yes. Supervisor safai so because weve anticipated this short coming, we can go forward. What about some of the other things that you heard . Rearview mirrors, monitors being so small that they white out . Have you heard these concerns from the operators . Yes, and that was the intent of my slide six was to talk about the improvements that weve made, the improvements that we have finalized the design on, and the improvements that we are working closely to finalize, including replacing the monitoring to a teninch screen. Supervisor safai but i dont see mirrors on that. The mirror that ramon was commenting on was considered, but we are not planning ongoing to an exterior mirror. We believe that the monitors offer enhanced visibility. Supervisor safai i know that commissioner walton wanted to ask some questions through the chair. Commissioner walton . Supervisor walton i think you asked the questions i had. Supervisor safai having worked with organizatied laborr almost a decade, that was often missed. When were crafting legislation and policies, were not thinking about people that are actually doing the work and on the front lines, and i think it causes these types of mishaps, and in our situation, its costing millions and millions of dollars and could have been anticipated better, for sure, including some of the people that actually do the work. Mirrors, monitors, but training in terms of braking seems to e a very obvious thing. Mr. Marenco, did you have Something Else that you wanted to add . Well, i just wanted to say that our communication is impro improving, and with the help of ramon, the agency has been addressing them, so we are in the process of remedying as many safety issues as we possibly can. Its just unfortunately its just somewhat timeconsuming. Were not against bringing in any time of new vehicle because were all with the hopes of improving our overall general lifestyle in transportation and just improving. However, what it is that were operating has to be in a safe manner, it has to be done in a safe manner, so we are definitely in the process of trying to fix whatever little quirks or safety issues that arise. Supervisor safai thank you. And ill just say, having been a commissioner here for 2. 5 years, this is the first time that weve actually had someone from organized labor come in to the sfmta. So i would say particularly when it comes to light rails or any other operation in terms of mechanics or decisions that are being made, i would encourage the Transportation Authority and the leadership of the sfmta to have that conversation up front. We want to invite you back on a more frequent basis so you can be part of these conversations up front so that youre not an afterthought and were not spending millions of dollars to correct something that you and your operators could have anticipated very easily. So thank you for taking the time and sitting here with us. Thank you, mr. Chair, and thank you, miss kirschbaum. Chair mandelman we do have some Public Comment. Hi, everyone. Thank you for a very interesting meeting today. And i also want to thank julie for your report that changes are being made, so i appreciate that. I just want to say one little thing about the operator situation. He feels very concerned about being blinded by the cameras, and he would like the Rearview Mirrors back. Theres a strong vote for mirrors. Okay. So now, i want to address another issue of health and safety, which is the number of passenger seats. And i want to first say that i was in a hard stop in the tunnel at 36 miles an hour and it was only the seats that stopped our motion. I am concerned about sudden braking in these open cars, and i am worried that people will get thrown about and hurt. Since i was also injured sitting sw sitting sideways in the new cars, i interviewed last fall the muni riders and found out that half liked the new cars and half didnt. It was the same 50 that the 2014 survey that the muni got. They didnt like the trains where they wanted to sit, so at least seats are coming back, which is good. Oh, 30 seconds, okay. Im very concerned, a lot of people are getting injured sitting sideways, and i interviewed 400 more in march. They told me think have sciatica, they have scoliosis, they have pregnancy, back problems, motion sickness, a rod in the back. I have lyme disease. My joints are unstable. We need the forward seat does back, and seats back, and im also concerned about the double number. I would like to see forward seats as part of a health and safety design in these new cars. Supervisor mandelman next speaker. Vice chair mandelman, this is a very important issue as i ride the subway often. Im paying for this in two ways. I tap my clipper® card, and then, 1 out of every sales tax pays for that, so ive got some standing here. Safety above all and this is very complex work. I read that the new york city subway, which im sure some of you have been on. If not, i encourage you to try it. Has 16 different types of vehicle in active service, some of which go back to 1964, so i would like to see how they manage slotting employees into 16 different types of vehicles. We have to work on our mean distance between failures. Im seeing as 5,000, 6,000 miles between failures. Thats the range of the new york city subways back in the days of the graffiti, and the broken lights and all of that. They worked through that, but they still have issues that they have to solve. I mention to you as a person of disabilities, that sideways seats are very important to me. I ask that you not totally eliminate the sideways facing seats. Some sideways facing seats must be preserved in these vehicles. Im not saying it has to be one or the other. There must be a reasonable mix. I do not have to explain to you my reasons for my disabilities, but please do not eliminate the sideways facing seats, and remember, safety above all. Thank you. Supervisor mandelman thank you. Are there any other members of the public who would like to speak before i close Public Comment . Good afternoon, edward mason. Im really disappointed that this is a 30year decision and consequently to me, its a 30year disappointment. The flat wheels is continuing. When i came down today at 24th and church on a grade, the vehicle seemed to have the wheels spin before it would engage and get traction. The acceleration is slow, and also, the door opening and closing is slow, so thats probably going to impact reliability of the system overall. We still have chatter and jerky stops at 18 and church periodically. Its not consistent, but its still in existence. So my only comment is it is what it is, unfortunately, and the seating arrangement, you know, should go to more transfer seats and also blue seats. And on the in the slide, there was announcement improvement. We do not have daytime on the new siemens cars, we do a date time on the brada cars, and i cant believe that were not having that feature on the siemens cars. Thank you. Supervisor mandelman thank you. Is there any other members of the public who want to speak on this item . Seeing none, Public Comment is now closed. Mr. Clerk, please call the next item. [agenda item read]. Supervisor mandelman colleagues, are there any new items . Seeing well, is there any Public Comment on this item . Seeing none. [gavel]. Supervisor mandelman mr. Clerk, please call the next item. Clerk item 18, general Public Comment. Supervisor mandelman we have two speakers, and anyone else who wants to address us during general Public Comment please lineup at the right of the room. Next wednesday, july 31, will conclude five years since the corporate commuter bus program was initiated on friday, august 1, 2014. There have been 4,248 placards issued to buses and currently based on a public records request, there are 711 buses operating in San Francisco. These are plus the scoff law buses that dont have a sticker on them as they blend into the armada. Trying to get a public records request, and these records are incomplete. But there have been over 2100 complaints registered, and i received the list for 157 pages, but that is not inclusive of the entire fiveyear period. Administrative penalties through december of 17 have amounted to 1,011,058. Citations ending in january 18 were 5,038 citations issued for over 708,000. We now have over 200 buses on 24 street, up from 160 buses last report. So my question is in the preliminary plan of 2050 thats being prepared by the m. T. C. , theres no solution for removing these buses off of 24 street or from the city as a whole. So i think were just getting inundated with these inner city buses over our neighborhood. Thank you very much. Supervisor mandelman thank you. Next speaker. Vice chair mandelman, i love a public meeting. I cant seem to get enough of them. I hope to be back with you all again, and i feel that this agency should have a regional perspective on things. I dont want us to be us versus them because we are all San Francisco. Even though i do not sleep in San Francisco, im here with you now. I am San Francisco today, and i look forward to being San Francisco tomorrow. And so i come to you as a passionate and unapologetic user of diverse means of mobility. I ride muni. I think its important that we focus on Traffic Enforcement for both vehicles and also twowheeled conveyances and Traffic Enforcement because i want to be safe out there if im driving a car of which i do have a nevada drivers license in Good Standing or riding a bike or scooter or walking or riding in a Public Transit conveyance. We must have good Traffic Enforcement, robust Traffic Enforcement to hold people accountable to traffic law. Just as i follow vehicle traffic law, i expect everybody to do the same and manage our speed so we can all operate in harmony on the streets of San Francisco. Thank you. Supervisor mandelman thank you. Are there any other members of the public who would like to speak in Public Comment today . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Mr. Clerk, do we have any other items before us today . Clerk item 19, adjournment. Supervisor mandelman great. Then we are adjourned. Valencia has been a constantly evolving roadway. The first bike lanes were striped in 1999, and today is the major north and south bike route from the Mission Neighborhood extending from market to mission street. It is difficult to navigate lindsay on a daily basis, and more specifically, during the morning and evening commute hours. From 2012 to 2016, there were 260 collisions on valencia and 46 of those were between vehicles and bikes. The mayor shows great leadership and she knew of the long history of collisions and the real necessity for safety improvements on the streets, so she actually directed m. T. A. To put a pilot of protected bike lanes from market to 15th on valencia street within four months time. [ ] valencia is one of the most used north south bike routes in San Francisco. It has over 2100 cyclists on an average weekday. We promote bicycles for everyday transportation of the coalition. Valencia is our mission fits our mission perfectly. Our members fall 20 years ago to get the first bike lane stripes. Whether you are going there for restaurants, nightlife, you know , people are commuting up and down every single day. I have been biking down the valencia street corridor for about a decade. During that time, i have seen the emergence of ridesharing companies. We have people on bikes, we have people on bike share, scooters, we have people delivering food and we have uber taking folks to concerts at night. One of the main goals of the project was to improve the overall safety of the corridor, will also looking for opportunities to upgrade the bikeway. The most common collision that happens on valencia is actually due to double parking in the bike lane, specifically during, which is where a driver opens the door unexpectedly. We kept all the passengers the passenger levels out, which is the white crib that we see, we double the amount of commercial curbs that you see out here. Most people arent actually perking on valencia, they just need to get dropped off or pick something up. Half of the commercial loading zones are actually after 6 00 p. M. , so could be used for fiveminute loading later into the evening to provide more opportunities or passenger and commercial loading. The five minute loading zone may help in this situation, but they are not along the corridor where we need them to be. One of the most unique aspects of the valencia pilot is on the block between 14th street. We worked with a pretty big mix of people on valencia. On this lot, there are a few schools. All these different groups had concerns about the safety of students crossing the protected bikeway whether they are being dropped off or picked up in the morning or afternoon. To address those concerns, we installed concrete loading islands with railings railings that channel channeled a designated crossing plane. We had a lot of conversations around how do you load and unload kids in the mornings and the afternoons . I do like the visibility of some of the design, the safety aspects of the boarding pilot for the school. We have painted continental crosswalks, as well as a yield piece which indicates a cyclist to give the rightofway so they can cross the roadway. This is probably one of the most unique features. During the planning phase, the m. T. A. Came out with three alternatives for the long term project. One is parking protected, which we see with the pilot, they also imagined a valencia street where we have two bike lanes next to one another against one side of the street. A twoway bikeway. The third option is a Center Running twoway bikeway, c. Would have the two bike lanes running down the center with protection on either side. Earlier, there werent any enter lane designs in San Francisco, but i think it will be a great opportunity for San Francisco to take the lead on that do so the innovative and different, something that doesnt exist already. With all three concepts for valencias longterm improvement , theres a number of tradeoffs ranging from parking, or what needs to be done at the intersection for signal infrastructure. When he think about extending this pilot or this still this design, theres a lot of different design challenges, as well as challenges when it comes to doing outreach and making sure that you are reaching out to everyone in the community. The pilot is great. It is a nobrainer. It is also a teaser for us. Once a pilot ends, we have thrown back into the chaos of valencia street. What were trying to do is incremental improvement along the corridor door. The Pilot Project is one of our first major improvements. We will do an initial valuation in the spring just to get a glimpse of what is happening out here on the roadway, and to make any adjustments to the pilot as needed. This fall, we will do a more robust evaluation. By spring of 2020, we will have recommendations about longterm improvements. I appreciate the pilot and how quickly it went in and was built, especially with the Community Workshops associated with it, i really appreciated that opportunity to give input. We want to see valencia become a really welcoming and comfortable neighborhood street for everyone, all ages and abilities. Theres a lot of benefits to protected bike lanes on valencia , it is not just for cyclists. We will see way more people biking, more people walking, we are just going to create a really friendly neighborhood street. [ ]streets. speaking foreign language. i wanted to wish you a best wishes and congratulations the community has shifted a lot of when i was growing up in the 60s and 50s a good portion of chicanoamerican chineseamerican lived in north beach a nob hill community. As part the immigrant family is some of the Recreation Centers are making people have the ability to get together and meet 0 other people if communities in the 60s a 70s and 80s and 90s saw a move to the richmond the sunset district and more recently out to the excelsior the Avenue Community as well as the ensuring u bayview so chinese Family Living all over the city and when he grape it was in this area. Were united. And growing up in the area that was a big part of the my leave you know playing basketball and mycy took band lessons and grew up. speaking foreign language. allergies welcome to the Community Fair it kicks off three weeks of celebrations for the year and lets keep everybody safe and celebrate the biggest parade outside of china on february 11th go best wishes and congratulations and 3, 2, 1 happy enough is enough. 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Good afternoon my name is carmen chu assessorrecorder i want to wish everything a happy new year thank you for joining us i want to say. speaking foreign language. speaking foreign language. im proud to be a native san franciscan i grew up in the chinatown, north Beach CommunityPort Commission important to come back and work with those that live in the community that i grew up in and that that very, very important to give back to continue to work with the community and hope e help those who may not be as capable in under serving come back and give hi, im with building San Francisco. And we have a special program of stay safe today where were going to talk about what you can do to your home after an earthquake to make it waterproof and to be more comfortable. Were here at spur in San Francisco, this wonderful exhibit of safe enough to stay. And this is an example of what your home might be like after an earthquake. And we have today with us ben latimer from tvan. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. Well talk about things you can do you dont have to be a professional contractor to make your home more livable after an earthquake. I want to talk about things a homeowner can do. We have comfort and we have things like a little bit of maybe safety if your front door is ajar and waterproofing if you have a leak in your roof, or if you have broken glass on the window. So unr, one of the most important fib use is keeping outside out and inside in. Lets look at windows. Lets assume this window is broken in the earthquake. We have wind and rain blowing in. One of the most important things you need to do as a homeowner is secure the plastic properly. If you just take staples or nails and put them into the plastic, were going to get a strong wind and rip it right off. What im going to have somebody do is theyre going to have this is an old piece of shingle. You might have everybody has a piece of wood in their basement. It doesnt have to be fancy. They take out this rusty screw begun, and hopefully you have one of these. There is one at the neighborhood support center. At the neighborhood support center. Youre going to wrap this plastic around this board, take your screw. And then screw that in. You need a permit for this . You do need a permit for this. And you can contact the former head building inspector to get that permit. Thats it. Now when the wind blows, its tight and its not going to pull through, having a single point of contact. Great. What about this door . Take a look at this door. What can you do . Lets say it doesnt shut tight. What can you do . For the sake of argument, were on the inside. I cant lock my door at night. I have a very similar, very similar idea. Im going to take my 2 by 4. I can put it across the jamb in the door. One. Two. Maybe i want another one up here, maybe another one down there. But i can go to sleep. And that quickly, i can get it off in the morning. Terrific. What about the roof up here . We see people throw blue tarps over their roof after an earthquake. That seems reasonable. I think the blue tarp is reasonable. The things that people want to know that they need to know is if you have multiple tarps, how you overlap. Starting from the bottom and moving up so that youre overlapping this way. So, rain running down doesnt slide under your tarp. Right. And the same technique we did over here, as silly as it may sound, wrapping the end of that blue tarp with your board and then securing that if you can underneath, if you have to on top is fine. But making sure that you dont have an area where the wind is going to get under and bill owe that tarp. The wind can rip it right off. And then youre back up there again. Lets go inside and check out what we can do inside. Old fun. Here we go. So, ben, i see you have nails, universal tool right here. Mans best friend. Duct tape. Let me show you a couple things we can use this for after an earthquake. This window right here, because its off kilter, we have open seams all along. I have a lot of air coming through. I want to stay comfortable at night. I want to keep that air out. Its as simple as that, all the way around. Excellent. Now i dont have any air coming in. Lets say this one is one that would annoy me. Everything is a little off. My doors wont stay closed. I take a piece of my favorite duct tape here, close it up. And at least it will stay out of my way when im trying to live throughout my day. If were not talking about pressurized water, were talking about just the drain, sometimes theyre going to get a crack here. Right, sure. And youre going to get a leak. Duct tape around that is going to help us get through until we can get a plumber out and get that fixed as well. Lets say we only have electricity in one room, so were running extension cords across the house. If im going to run an extension cord from one room to the other, i dont want kids tripping on it. I dont want to trippon it. I take my trusty duct tape, tape it to the floor, and i dont have to worry about it getting kicked. Great, great. Look at this. Lets look at the duct tape here because we see a big yes. In the event of an earthquake, i dont think were going to have too many too much debris thats safe to put into a plastic bag, even as strong as it might be. These are called vice bags. This is what they use to put rice and things when they ship it. This is something where i take my glass, i can take broken pieces of wood, i can take anything sharp and fill it. And its not going to puncture and come out. Its not going to fall all over the floor. Ive not going to have it sticking out, maybe scratch myself, cut myself or anything like that. These are a great thing to have. You have a little goto box for emergencies. Thats great. Thanks very much for joining us, ben. Its really been interesting. And i want to thank you all for joining us here at the spur urban center. And well see you again [ gavel ]. Good morning, everyone. The meeting will come to order. This is the july 24, 2019, regular meeting of the budget and finance committee. I am sandra lee fewer, i am joined by supervisor Catherine Stefani and supervisor mar who is sitting in today. Our clerk is ms. Linda wong. Colleagues may i