Hsoc is targeting People Living in the vehicles. I meet with advocates across the United States are stunned with how harsh it is in San Francisco. There are Human Rights Violations taking place here. Good evening, commissioners. Thank you for having this hearing. I hear a lot from you guys about need for Community Policing, not enough money, this stuff. We have massive housing. We need funding to expand treatment. Nobody addresses Mental Health if they are going to the streets, not permanent housing. We have 75 fulltime highly trained, highly expensive offerings responding to what is an economic crisis. A housing crisis. That is a lot of money over 40 million spent leading nowhere. That neighbor that commissioner taylor we were talking about that is frustrated. That neighbors needs are not met by moving people block to block. Those needs are met by moving people to housing. As long as we have a Police Response to homelessness we are not going to have the resources to house people. I think we are confused here. When we lead with services, that means you lead with services. Social Service Provider is leading. When you lead with police, that is not leading with services. Leading with services is defined term. It doesnt work. You know, we had a Police Response is not correct when hsoc was first started we thought it was decreasing police. We went from 24 to 75 officers responding to homelessness. Other municipalities are trying something different. Citations are down. Courts are no longer issuing warrants for unpaid citations. Folk on the streets are not feeling a big gain. For them an hsoc policy is alone and unsheltered. All right. I have been waiting awhile. I want to say this. I am a formerly homeless individual. I am one that has experienced life on the streets. Believe me the last thing i ever wanted to hear when i was in crisis was get up and move along. I am sick and tired of hearing about the sweeps. I heard about the sweep. What is going on here . I want this to stop. I want things to be led with services. Now, when i was on the streets, i was assaulted, victim of a hate crime. Someone punched me so hard i almost lost an eye. I didnt go to the police because i felt i would be criminalized. It is real for so many people. It is time to cut the police funding. 23 of our funding goes to policing jails, that bullshit, only 3 goes to homelessness. We have to shift priorities here and just stop the bullshit and get people housed, lead with services. We need navigation centers, we need Supportive Housing that is not some crummy bullshit which i live in. We need to change priorities. I know this is the police commission. We have to cut police funding. Screw that. Fuck the police. Good evening. Thank you for serving San Francisco. I am ellen. I am a public social worker for public health. I am a candidate for mayor for november 2019 this year. The reason i am here is because we had a meeting in chinatown, and we have so many victims came out to report crimes. Let me stop you. We are just taking comments on homelessness presentations. General Public Comment will come after this. This is just on homelessness issue. One of the issue you talk about the Homeless People have been staying overnight in chinatown that has bothered the merchants, elderlies that are afraid in chinatown. I came in today. I hear the deports. You and i just heard it tonight. Srancis has more than 21,000 Homeless People. No matter what you do and what you do up here today, the homeless problem is not going to be able to stop. The problem is the question is where is the money . The city budget 3,900 to 17,000, homeless a month. Where is the money . Number two, democrats have been in control of city hall for 45 years. We have no problem until one party policy that is dominated our city hall that is all democrats 100 . The homeless problem is created by no one but democrats. To protect human rights and human life. If you look around, what do you see . No Chinese People. You see the Homeless People. White people, black people, latino people, you dont see a lot of Chinese People. Why . You are racist, racist. Your name. Good afternoon commission i am angela jen kings. I want to thank you. I havent spoken for some years. I see spaces that make me smile. Law enforcement and other people. I come in newly. David lazar charmed me to it is on for two years the Community Policing group. I learned a lot. I learned my most from meeting with the coalition of homelessness and seeing them stay in my district for the navigation center, brave people asking for compassion. I am a person that doesnt believe strongly in policing. I think there are alternatives. I have voiced that. I am looking for a nonLaw Enforcement response to the issue of housing people, and i hope we arrive at that and thank you very much. I am martha. I am participating in the coalition on homelessness, human rights work group. I have defended quite a few thousand infraction citations in the fairly disand past. I want to say the most important statistic tonight is from chris herring saying only 5 of the hsoc calls got the resolution care where people are offered the lovely thingsdescribed to you. A very lovely compassionate group of services are described to be offered. They are offered on a limited basis. Everyone else, go away. We throw away your stuff, punish you buy throwing away your stuff if you dont go away. This is just that the city is not thinking about trusting people enough to help them to survive on their own until there is enough of what is city has to offer to offer to everyone. There is a notion that people either receive something from the city or everything is the same. If you can help people to survive in place, you help people to survive a lot longer quite physically. I live south of market. I have lived there since 1996. I want to say my own experience is i see sfpd telling people to move, i see dpw throwing away peoples things, a lot of plans. What i have not seen since abot 2015 when somebody was helping me with a neighbor still sleep on the sidewalk, what i havent seen is actual outreach workers. I would like to see those, survey people help them not hurt them. Thank you. Hi. I am flow kelly with the coalition on homelessness. I have learned a lot by doing that. I am very impressed with your questions and your concerns. This is very hopeful to me. I really like president hershs idea that the coalition and hsoc should absolutely work together. I want to make clear, Vice President taylor, that when people are told to move, often times it is only just a few feet. They are told instead of being right here could you just move three feet over here . Or it could just be going around the block. I dont see the point of that. Supposedly, i have heard it said tonight an encampment is a bastion of criminal activity. When people are coming together, they are protecting each other, making friends, sharing resources. It is a very important support system that you have when people are together. Breaking up people just because there is six or more tents, i dont understand that or making vehicles move because there are suddenly 10 on the block, i dont get that at all. I think that dpw has a lot of vehicles in homeless folks. Did i say bayview . I meant to say bayview has a lot of folks because it is industry. Dpw tags only at the dpw yard. They do not tag anything that they take while it is on site. How could that possibly result in accurate tagging . Thank you. May i use the overhead for video . I am taylor. I am a mission resident, member of the Sf Bike Coalition and latino democratic club. I want be to share a quick video on the overhead from february. This is pushing down rain. Pouring down rain. There is rain on division and mission street. There are bicycles and tents inside the dpw truck facilitated by the police. This is unacceptable. It is a waste of money. Resources should be towards services and housing and supporting people to live a better life with those services and not police intervention. Defund the Police Activity on every homeless encampment and bring the neighbors to spaces they want to be. Thank you. I am john jones. I recently took a train tip from los angeles to San Francisco and from bakers field to emryville one gets to see from the window of the train numerous homeless encampments. Most of us get to see these encampmentses, congregation of tents from eye level. When you are on the train on top of the Railroad Embankment you see it from 10 to 15 feet. My impression of these encampments was these are horrific placement. This report is unable to capture the horror of these homeless encampments. I felt that they were a threat to the surrounding communities. Over a period of time, Civilized Society would be impossible given these encampments and how people inter acted with each other. The charge was made that the individuals involved in reaching to the homeless and meeting their needs are racist because of the lack of chinese being served. I would like to suggest another reason. The chinese have strong families. I have seen it time and time again. I live in excellin excel see or. That is why there are fewer receiving the services. It is to their credit. I hope it is perceived as a compliment. Next speaker. I am melody. I was born in 1958. In 1960 i sustained a brain injury and it was not diagnosed until 1997. If you google it the studies show that approximately 50 of the Homeless Population suggestion stained a brain injury prior to becoming homeless. Of that 50 , 75 sustained the injury prior to age 18. I started seeking services from the city and county of San Francisco in the year 2000. And 14 years later not one agency offered me any kind of rehabilitation for brain injury. I have had a total of 40 years of talk therapy which did not help me learn my multiplication tables or skills of daily living. I have been living on the street since 2007, and i have a good rapport with jeff, a good rapport with the Bayview Police captains. I have been attending the Police Community meetings since 2009, and there is not any services for me. We just need to somehow stop what the hsoc is doing. It is terrorizing me and not helping me get housing. Thank you so much. Okay. This is still homelessness. I would like to use the overhead. I had the opportunity to visit vision zero of homicides. I will bring this up. We are talking about homelessness. People are losing their homes because their children are being murdered. Chief scott was talking about people dying on the street. We talk about homelessness and people are dying, but homicide is the same. People are losing their homes. They have to live on the street. The mothers cant stay in the projects because they lost their home because of crime or whatever is in the house. You talk about Mental Health. Yes, we are suffering. I havent lost my home but i know people that are. We talk about zero tolerance. That goes for everyone. People are losing their homes. We need to do something. I do drive past and see those trucks picking up those Homeless Peoples things and putting them in the trunk and i dont see them tagged. I feel sorry for them. I give them money. I shouldnt but i do. Half of them have children and half of them are pregnant, and it is sad. We need to do something about it. Thank you. Thank you. Public comment on the homelessness presentation is closed. Next item, please. Item 7 general Public Comment. General public is welcome to address the commission on items not on the agenda. Address it to the hole. During Public CommentNeither Police or commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public but may provide a brief response. Individual commissioners and police and dpa personnel should refrain from entering into any debates or discussion with speakers during Public Comment. General Public Comment. It is against policy for a member of the commission to send emails to the members of the public via private email. After the last meeting i received such an email from commissioner hersh. I offered to meet and have a conversation. Commissioner hersh dropped the ball. I feel it is necessary to bring this before you all. At that meeting i stated that many members of the public that have just spoken were distraught about louise after arriving on the screen. No one showed any compassion. The email from his private email said these words. Did you spit on my car . Thats what i heard from the commissioner. Did you spit on my car . My answer was i should not even responds to that because it is so insulting. No, i did not spit on your car. I am frankly appalled you would think that. I would never stoop so low to hate you that you would make such assumption about the member of the public. It shows how little you respect us. I was calling about your lack of compassion for the families whose loved had been killed by the police. I cannot let stand such a breach of policy that is an insult not only to me but for the public in general. What will you do to rectify this . I dont know if he is telling you i pit on his car. I dont know what car you drive. Thithis is an insult and against policy. I want to know what you are going to do to rectify this. Next speaker. Thank you. Commissioners, i am Gregory Leone a resident of San Francisco and representing the chinese merchants. We feel there is a rise of violence crimes against the chinese, particularly we hope the Police Department will help before it gets worse. For the merchants, besides the crimes there are a lot of petty crimes on the chinese merchants like shoplifting, spit on, groping, racial slurs calling. We get that every day. I have had that since i was a child in San Francisco, but i never reported it, and i never kept that in mind. I just hope that people will learn to work with each other and live with each others. Heart tread has hatred has been around for a long time and hopefully with this president that is having so much on race problems the department will do something about it. I hope that the chief and you commissioners would take time to visit chinatown with a rally with the concentration of chinese and spread the word that we can live with each other. We dont have to hate each other. I hope the department will support the ambassador program. Thank you. Can we shut the door, please. Chief scott, commissioners, i am a resident of china town. About three mondays ago, two seniors over the age of 60 just had their lunch and walk out from the restaurant and he was attacked and three guys picked him up and threw him down on the sidewalk again and took his role lex watch away. That is not only one instance, you know, earlier in the year there was a 70yearold woman, two of them being raped in parks and homes, one that the assailants released the dog to bite on their arms. One of them is still in the hospital. Every time chief you assign good captains in every district, you know, they respond. They have Community Meetings and they are committed to, you know, find the perpetrators. They have received the high are authority with the detail in your Department Working on this, but, you know, these people are hard to find. We know that, and we just have to do better. You know, we drink coffee and people know from time to time i come to city hall and testify. They ask me to relay the message that we need help. Thank you. I want to second the two Chinese People before me gregory and richard. We came from the community. I was at the Community Meeting july 22nd in chinatown. Many of the police and Mayors Office were there. The Chinese People were not allowed to speak. You know San Francisco we had about 900,000 residents. 35 asian people. Within the 35 asian people, chinese are the majority of that. Look around. No chinese commissioner sitting up there. That is discrimination. We, the Chinese Americans contribute in San Francisco for the last 150 years. What do we get . Retaliation. Many of the police they are trying to do their jobs. There are no one but democrats. Police are not able to arrest because of popsition 47 proposition 47. They arrest perpetrators when they go to court, what does the court do . Release them right away. Chinese have been targeted for crimes. You as commissioners do something about it. If the police chief right here, he is not able to do his job, leave San Francisco. Maybe you do not need to be in San Francisco. We need people who care about San Francisco, not for africanamerican people but Chinese People and other people also. For many months we chinese have been targeted. [please stand by] or even im still here. I hope more police and more safety, you know, in our community, all the community, we appreciate it. President hirsch thank you. Next speaker, please. Hi. My name is paula williams, and im homeless in San Francisco right now. Ive been homeless since december of 2018. Ive made Numerous Police reports. Ive been harmed numerous of times by staff in the shelters. The police have did me no justice. Ive went to the city attorney, ive went to the d. P. A. Its just plain corruption. Its five Police Officers that dont want to take a Police Report, made false statements in my Police Report. Didnt want me to file a Police Report and just was lying. I liked when miss taylor said they wanted to take a look at the shelters. Every morning, i walkthrough t. L. And encourage them, tell them to get up, all to its numerous of stuff that whatever hsoc and all of them is talking about, i just called the Police Yesterday in front of walgreens and had the police come up and pick a lady that was laying on the ground. Sometimes i just do field work all day and call 911, can you please get this person up, can you please so i dont know what they talking about. Every day, im in the tenderloin. Whatever salary they getting, they know me down there. They know me really well. So i think you guys should look up all my Police Reports, go to d. P. A. , and ask someone thats working in the shelters thats harming, it was a 26yearold girl that sprayed chemicals in a 66yearolds face this morning. President hirsch thank you. Any other Public Comment general Public Comment . My name is john jones. May my remarks please the commission. About two years ago, i was getting on a 14 mission bus at the corner of geneva and mission, and all of a sudden, i heard this scream, a woman scream. And i looked around, and there was a chinese woman in the back holding a very well cared for child, and three black teenagers were running off the bus. I came facetoface with one of the teenagers, and he was smiling. Apparentl apparently, one of them had just ripped a cell phone out of the womans hand. Now, the witness to that was five chinese men sitting in the back of the bus. My impression was that chai necessary have very tight families. I could run through the numbers, but my estimate is that 3,000 separate individuals heard a full recounting of that crime and the effect upon that woman. You cannot buy that kind of bad publicity. Its stupid. For a 25 cell phone, you alienate all those people . Thats one fact in all this crime that we talk about that doesnt get emphasized, the effect it has on others, particularly others of different races. Thank you. President hirsch thank you. Any other Public Comment . Id like to use the overhead again. Im trying to start it. Wait a minute. President hirsch we need you to talk into the mic, though. Im trying to start my video, so could you so wait a minute. Sorry. Just a second. I think its ready now. So oh, here we go. 12 years after his son was her son was shot and killed in San Francisco, tonight, shes still pleading for answers and hoping a huge reward will lead to an arrest. Our Crime Reporter has the story. Im here. This is the 12 year. Im back again. Its a sad summer ritual, paulette brown, pleading with San Francisco police after her only son was shot and killed back in 2006. I was told back when it happened, its going to get easier, but it doesnt. I can deal with it. Im functioning. I work i do everything that i need to do, but this pain never, never ends. On august 14, 2006, 17yearold aubrey aberkacen approached several gang members. Police say aubrey wasnt a gang member, but he yelled at his friends to run, and they shot him in the back for this. Like she does each year, she passes out fliers, hoping someone will be brave enough to come forward. San Francisco Police say a 250,000 reward remains in effect. I know its been 12 years, i know its been a long time, but if we can solve a case from the Golden State Killer that goes back for decades, we can solve one thats 12 years old. I cant believe hes been gone 12 years and nothings happened. Aubreys mother and the police say if you have any information, call police. So im saying august 14 of this month will be his anniversary, and im looking for you guys to come im having Media Coverage on grove and baker. Steve David Stevenson has already given me the flier to pass out to faithbased people. Im hoping that coming here for all these years that you guys would accompany me and stand with us concerning unsolved homicides and mothers and fathers who lost their children to homicide so maybe some way we can heal. President hirsch thank you. I would like to see you there. President hirsch the tip line is 4154755555. Any other Public Comment . Next item . [agenda item read]. President hirsch is there any Public Comment on us going into closed session . All right. Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Next item. Clerk line item nine, vote on whether to hold item ten in closed session, including vote on whether to assert the attorneyclient privilege with regard to item 10a, San Francisco administrative code section 67. 10, action. President hirsch is there a motion . So moved. Second. President hirsch all in clerk commissioner hirsch, we are back on record in open session. You still have a quorum. Line item 11, vote to discuss any or all items held in closed session pursuant to section 57. 12 a. Move not to disclose. Second. All in favor . Clerk item 12, adjournm t adjournment. President hirsch is there a motion . Move to adjourn. Second. President hirsch all in favor . [gavel]. Good morning. So im mary ellen carol, the executive director at the department of management. Welcome. Were here to talk about the 911 which is so going to help us from a Technology Perspective to bring our 911 system to what we call next gen, next generation. So ive been the director here for a year, and its just amazing how much we are able to accomplish, but with technology that is literally decades behind. Were so grateful to leadership, of our mayor and our governor, to help us to bring forward this funding that honestly is going to help us come to technology that most people in their daytoday lives in their personal technology have above what 911 is. This is going to make our calltaking more efficient and honestly its going to save lives, which is really the bottom line and why were here. Thank you so much and ill hand it over to our mayor. Mayor breed thank you so much for being here today. I want to add to what mary ellen said about what we need to do to take our Emergency Response system to the next level. Nowadays its not just about making phone calls. People are Text Messages and delivering messages in a lot of different ways. So it is time that our systems reflect the changes in technology. So ab 911 is just an incredible step forward that will provide us with the resources necessary to improve our system throughout the entire state of california. I want to thank our governor for signing the legislation and his leadership and vision on moving us forward to the 21st century, because we know that when someone reaches out and they are in a situation of an emergency, that they clearly need help and we need to have a better response system. Im sure many of you remember years ago when people when cellphones just began well, that was a long time ago, but cellphones first became a thing and how people would use cellphones in some instances to call 911, but they would be transitioned to another county and there was some difficulty in communication and how we provided Emergency Response to get to that location. So things have definitely gotten better since then, but there is so much that we can do to make it even better. Having the funding necessary to invest in new technologies so that text messaging and all the things we do now to communicate are used in a way to address any situation, whether there is a wild fire or a heat advisory or all of those different challenges that sadly weve had to endure, we want to be prepared, we want to respond in a timely manner, and we are ready to move forward in making those investments to do just that. I want to introduce at this time our governor, who has again been a leader in this effort and on new technologies and used to have my job as mayor. Welcome home to our governor. Thank you, mayor. Thank you all for being here. It is nice to be back. This is my first day on the job as mayor was in this building when i convened what we called at the time the disaster council. I was, i guess in looking back, overly anxious during my time as mayor we would experience a major earthquake. Thankfully we did not. I maintain that anxiety as your governor. That anxiety was only heightened after ridgecrest. Its been heightened certainly after the last two wildfire seasons as well. As ive navigated this state and learned more about our 911 system, it goes without saying its only reinforced that anxiety. The 911 system as we know it today was established in 1973. The technology is outdated. The technology lazily can be referred to as analog technology. It predates the internet, as the mayor suggested, it predates smartphones. 80 of the activity that occurs around a call center is smartphone based not landline based, though we have a system to finance our call centers that predates this new technology. Were overly relying on burdening landlines and as a consequence we have not been able to modernize our system and weve been disproportionately burdening those holding on to that technology, tend to be people on fixed income and seniors. Weve been fortunate. Theres been efforts over the last few years to update our system that have fallen short. We were successful this year in pushing through our budget and ultimately in this what we call trailer bill to get to the point where today we can formally announce that by the end of this month we have identified the vendors and we will be moving forward with updating not only the state lay of the 911 system, moving from analog to digital but our four Major Regions that define this state. There are about 437 other call centers like this, 438 in the state of california, which is an extraordinary number. The reality is they dont have the technology, they dont have the tools to connect. They dont have the capacity to redirect call volume if something goes wrong or theres a surge in that volume. It is selfevident to anyone in San Francisco if theres a major earthquake, the surge volume here will simply overwhelm this call center. Our ability once this new technology is deployed will allow the call volume, as an example, potentially to be redirected to sacramento, redirected to eureka, redirected to l. A. , wherever the capacity will allow. Thats what this technology does. It has a geospatial component. It allows for a substantial amount of bells and whistles. I can get into that and ask our executive director of this and i can ask the o. E. S. Director to fill in the blanks, but it allows us to meet the challenges and the needs of a multiplicity of issues that we face when it comes to mercy planning in the state. This is a big deal. I appreciate the reference that this is about lives because quite literally this is going to save lives. Im proud of the legislature including the by partisans. Final word on this topic, there is a fee attached. I know that generates headlines. We are still among the lowest in the nation in terms of that new fee thats been established. I think thats a nice and important thing to point out. Usually were one of the highest in areas. This is where were among the lowest. So i know there was some anxiety related to that, but i hope that assuages some of those concerns. This, by the way, in closing, has been part, this announcement today, part of our week of announcements around Emergency Preparedness and planning. Yesterday i was up with governor schwartzeneggar. We were talking about some of the work were doing on vegetation management, prescribed burns, making sure were more resilient in 200 communities across this state. Were stepping up our game and getting more ready for Emergency Planning and preparedness. More than 1 billion has been spent to make sure california is more resilient and prepared than ever. Im grateful for the support we received up and down the state. Im grateful for the mayors leadership in this space. She was on the Fire Commission leading these efforts for many, many years and as conversant as any mayor in the state of the needs and desires not only of her constituents, but as it relates to the need to update these technologies and recognizes she cant do it alone. The state needs to do their part and were honored to now be doing our part in this space. Were grateful for that. Were also grateful for you being here and happy to answer any questions on topic. Then we are happy for any questions for mayor breed off topic. Any questions on this subject . Reporter question i was just wondering what you observed in your tour today . To be honest with you, a lot of familiarity, and i think that goes to the reality. We were talking to the o. E. S. Director and asked how does this compare and contrast to other call centers up and down the state. It is put in the top tier, but that bar is not as high as it can be. At the end of the day that capacity is limited because of resources. Our new fee will generate 175 million a year. It will allow the services to go in around october. Well start implementing these new tools and technology up and down the state. Thats what was missing, that state support. This will allow you know better than i the capacity to do things you are losing sleep over currently and do it in the next few months. This is going to move pretty quickly. August 20th were going to identify these vendors. And as soon as october, right, were going to start seeing the application of this promise and promotion. Anybody . Im going to hang out more in San Francisco. [ indiscernible ] i shouldnt say that. She never speaks anyway. I actually sleep pretty well because i compartmentalize as well. As an example, one of the technologies that we all use every day to grab an uber and your uber can find you in a moment or even ordering a pizza, that kind of technology for us when calls come in has not been available to us until really the last few months. And after extensive effort to work with Third Party Vendors who are helping to kind of pull this data together. A lot of it has to do with the state of our technology, which makes it a lot harder. Moving from this analog to a more digital level is going to make that Technology Much more accessible to us, so that we can use that type of quick information that you use to catch a ride or to get your lunch to get help to you, whether its Law Enforcement or a medical response or fire. So it just speaks to the ability to have access to this kind of Technology Much quicker. We alone would have been able to go to. Secondly, this is probably just as important, this will provide us with a lot more resiliency and redundancy. The governor explained a little bit and mayor breed about how this allows us to have more mutual assistance between other jurisdictions and their 91 centers because we dont have to put everything in a suitcase and walk across the street. Well be able to flip a switch and work out so that if we have an earthquake or a potential power outage thats extensive, we very quickly will be overwhelmed at our center. So this allows us to go to other jurisdictions who can pick up and get those calls and make sure help is getting to people when they need it in the time they need it. You mentioned the fee. What is the fee and who pays it . Its going to be one flat fee across the board. We have multiple fees right now. 0. 33. We are authorized to go higher. We are very confident that we will not need to go to what is authorized, which is closer to 0. 80. 0. 33 puts us on the lower tier. Current landline users are paying 0. 50. That will use to 0. 33. A disproportionate amount of smartphone use is text and data, not voice. So we have a system thats collapsing in terms of its funding capacity, and thats why we have been struggling to get this up in sacramento. Fortunately we were able to get it in the budget. We had a few supporters from north state that experienced the ravages of mother natures fury as it relates to the campfire, and i think that really truly brought home this reality and need. So i just want to acknowledge them because they did something within that party that often is not done when encouraged to do the right thing despite the political consequences. I couldnt be more proud of those two individuals as well as the others in the legislature who supported this. The first day in the nation since 1973 that mandated 911. We have lost our leadership a bit. Were now going to reassert our leadership. 27 Million People use this system. We have 1. 4 i think just here in San Francisco. You drop even for a minute the calls, that literally puts lives at risk. So it is not, again, an exaggeration at all. This is a lifesaving fee that will go a long way to making california more resilient, more capable in emergency environment to do justification to it, that is to have someone to answer the phone in an emergency 24 hours a day, seven days a week. [ indiscernible ] those companies are competing for these contracts, so all of this is in collaboration and partnership with those companies. Well see. I dont know who will wind up winning these business, but theres some wellknown brands in the state that are competing. I dont know if you want to talk more about the deeper collaboration with Cellphone Companies or maybe just flesh out other attributes of this system very, very briefly. Sure. Thank you. In regards to the cellphones, what this will do is harden that 911 connection from our Community Member on the street, whether youre using a cellphone, your office phone, your home phone. That connection through your provider, thats up to that vendor to be able to harden their infrastructure. But once it recognizes that you have a 911 call, were going to create redundancy and resiliency in the network so it can get to our local dispatch center. Thats what our job is, to make sure that 911 call is received, routed to the appropriate peace app as quickly as possible. We believe it can be done in 3 seconds from the time you hit 911 to the time the dispatcher receives the call. Full disclosure these things will take a few years. They dont just happen overnight. By december 2022 it should be fully operational. [ ] item five, communications, director, i have none. Item six board members, do you have any new or Unfinished Business that you would like to address . If not, i think i will move into a special item that we have today recognizing our director, who is leaving us