Transcripts For SFGTV Government Access Programming 20240714

[speaking spanish] your time is up. Your time is up, sir,. Sir, sir,. [speaking spanish] your time is up. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. Are you going to translate . Yes, i am. My name is louise who is a family man, a mayan indigenous man being murdered of the San Francisco Police Department april 7th, 2016. The names of those officers are nate steger and Michael Malone. Our family has looked fought for all legal means to demand consequences for those officers and so far we have been ignored which has deepened our trauma and despair. At the end of june, my family and i learned from a newspaper story that the department of Police Accountability found the says that subjects broke s. Fpd policies that are there to protect citizens from police abuses. Imagine our surprise and hope to learn that there will be consequences, but it means the d. P. A. Is a brief and temporary discussion for each one. We also understand the chief of police can ignore this recommendation. More importantly, my family and i believe that we can raise the bar and Police Accountability and fulfil a longstanding demand of communities of colour in San Francisco. That is why i speak before you today to employ you to take your duties seriously and defend the fulfilment of the policies that you approved to safeguard life. How is it possible that the only consequence for these two policeman for violating the law and killing my cousin is a simple suspension. Enough easy enough. Fulfil your duty and order that these irresponsible men be fired if you refuse every once and for all that you are a commission that does not take itself seriously and that you are really there to ensure the murder of incident sit ins go unpunished forever. I think this was general public. General Public Comment. I dont think this relates to something that we address. Next speaker, please. This is on items iiia through 3d a response for the d. P. A. Report that is also about louise by murdering this individual, less than 36 after they arrival at the scene, the officer Michael Malone and the sergeant showed blatant wrist does disregard of the life, date blatant bliss regard to the basic and simple rules of the use of force policies. Time and distance. Callous disregard for the suffering of the family and community. They should be held accountable for your restless acts of violence. I am asking that Michael Malone and Nathaniel Steger be fired because they are a threat to the public, especially to people of colour. As a nurse armed with only a stethoscope, i have had training in deescalation and always use those techniques with the commitment to do no harm. Michael malone and Nathaniel Steger had crisis intervention and other trainings as s. Fpd hammered home the basic principles of time, distance and establishing rapport in a crisis since 2,011. They have violated every basic principle and killed a loving and generous father, son, brother, cousin, friend, someone who was particularly vulnerable because he was homeless after an eviction. There has been known just as already for family or for any of the families for Police Violence in San Francisco. The very least that San Francisco can do is take away their weapons and fire them from their jobs. Thank you. Thank you. Next. This is regarding the d. P. A. Report. The officers murdered them in 29 seconds. They should have been indicted and in jail, short of that they should now be fired. All of this talk of 21st century policing, deescalation and creating time and distance is meaningless and b. S. If theres not the wait of accountability and punishment behind it. The ultimate bad behavior by cops will not be curtailed otherwise. And the case suspension is a slap on the wrist it is disrespectful and unjust and they must be fired to send a message. [applause]. Any other Public Comment . Good evening, commissioners. I am an episcopal priest and i have lived and worked in the mission for many years with my family. I want to speak to the d. P. A. Report as well. As a gay man, i remember how i felt when i learned that dan white, after murdering harvey milk and the mayor would spend only a few short years in prison at that moment, the lives and struggles of gay people seat team trivialized. Deemed unimportant. But our pain could somehow be placated and brushed aside by giving dan white such a lenient sentence. Many of us feel that way today as we hear about the leniency shown to Jeffrey Epstein after all the lives he has destroyed and many of us feel that way hearing that the killers of this man may only receive a few weeks of time off for what they did. If this were simply an administrative concern, a failure by these officers to meet Certain Department standards or follow certain protocols not showing up for work, lets say are failing to submit the necessary reports, then an administrative moment and measure like this might make sense. But this is more of a failure to follow xmen and ministry have expectations, not just a management issue. It requires weightier consequences. Comanche life was taken. His wife and kids will have a hole in their hearts, the trauma of those bullets that riddled his body will now be theirs to live with for the rest of their lives and the Wider Community of the mission where i live which is no stranger to excessive use of police force. These two have been traumatized. It is not just rhetoric to say all our lives are still diminished by what these officers have done. None of us will ever be quite the same again. Please do not think of this as an administrative matter. It has profound human and moral implications and these must be considered in determining consequences. Time is up. Next speaker. I have a few of my own words to say in response to the department Department Police accountability agenda item. I am a 12 year resident of the mission district. I am a provider for the School District for Good Samaritan Family Resource centre and the felt in statute. I have worked with the family in the past and there was they are respected members of the community. When i am doing my job, if i were, at any point to violate the policies of the organizations i worked for to the point to which it led to the death of one of the members of the communities i serve, i would no longer be working in any of those organizations or any organization of any Similar Organization in the city. The bay area, california, and probably anywhere. Thank you. Next speaker. Good evening. I also speak on behalf of justice for luis. He will recall that at the time that s. Of p. D. Rolled up and killed luis within 29 seconds of arriving on the scene, it was after the panel had been in panel to determine the depth of racism. After the shooting of mario woods, after the u. S. Department of justice was here investigating s. Fpd, there was so much heightened activism. I will never forget the january Police Commission meeting here in the tenderloin when the p. O. A. Showed up to show their defiance. They did not care. In front of their own commission , their own oversight, they have no respect for all of the communities that are engaged in activism. Your role as their oversight. You showed up with their guns, they will lead to their way to the front of the podium, and it was just unbelievable to me. That with that many layers of oversight that they would feel that they could just roll up on this man and kill him within 29 seconds of arriving on the scene who do they think they are . It is so important that we have accountability. We can have 272 recommendations, we can have the forward meeting, we can have all these different things. If there is no accountability when people defy these things, why are they going to stop defying it . I urge you to fire these officers, send a signal, assert myself. You are their oversight. They must respect to you. Next speaker. Good evening. My name is chase, i am a candidate for San Francisco District Attorney. I want to take a moment to reflect on the fear that Police Officers may experience when responding to a 911 call about someone carrying a knife. The fear that they would understand and experience when they get out of their car and not knowing what they are confronting that they are any day on the job. They do far more in this city than the agency was designed to do, responding to a homelessness crisis, Mental Health crisis, and drug addiction crisis. It is because of those fears that would polite just provide the police with overprotection, funding, tools, man and woman power to do the job. It is because of that fear and the risk that officers face in the line of duty that we have rules to minimize the help of violence and loss of life. And those rules are essential, not just to protect people like him, but to also protect officers themselves from being hurt in the line of duty, to ensure that we have trust between the communities that officers swear to serve and protect and the Police Department. Trust that has been tremendously damaged by racism, by theft, by dishonesty and by murder that goes unpunished. It is essential for Public Safety that we have meaningful consequences for a Police Officers that failed to follow rules and regulations put in place for all of our safety. Thank you. Thank you. I just want to make one comment for the public so they understand think something. This commission does not have the authority to issue any penalty in a disciplinary matter that is greater then the penalty that is being sought for the charging agency. Were prohibited by law from issuing a greater penalty in the penalty that is sought here. I just think that is important for you to know. Next item. Line item four. Do you have Public Comments now . Correct. All right. Do you notice the disconnect between all of you and the public . Until the public started to speak, all of you were commending each other on everything that you have done and here is a family that is grieving. Here is a community that is afraid of their own Police Coming to speak to you and this idea that we cant talk about what the chief of police doesnt say or the d. P. A. Doesnt say, even though it is all over the press is absurd. That is why we can talk to it like the braking into the journalists house. That just disappeared. It was all over the media. Nobody says anything. All i hear is commendation. When are you going to call the Police Officers association on the carpet here and tell them to stop advising their officers to say they fear for their lives, to stop saying that the d. P. A. Wasnt brave like the District Attorney to not press charges . When is there going to be any accountability because when Police Officers can kill with impunity, no matter what you train them, they know they can do it and they come within 30 seconds and kill a human being who is no threat, no threat at all. I knife next to them. Many people have knives because there is no safety out there. There is no housing, there is no care. When will this change, one of the officers going to have to look in the eyes of the people, the families that are grieving, that they have killed . When there will be any Restorative Justice . We dont want the police in our community. We dont want to. We want to take care of ourselves. We dont want you to come and kill us. We are done with this. We dont want police at all. We dont want your guns, we dont want your beanbags, we dont want your tasers, none of this. Public comment is now closed. Next item. Line item four has been removed. Line item five, general Public Comment. The public his welcome to address the commission guarding items that do not appear in tonights agenda but what are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. They shall address the commission as a whole and not to individual personnel. They may provide a brief response to individual commissioners and police d. P. A. Personnel should refrain from entering into any debates or discussion with speakers during Public Comments. General Public Comment although i think we have had it, but we will have more. I have general Public Comment chiefs got, my name is ruben david goodman. I am a retiree of the San Francisco Assessors Office. During my time in the Assessors Office they held him to be the elected assessor. I had the pleasure of helping him give the endorsement about various democratic clubs and voluntarily drove him around his lint lincoln continental. I like to dedicate my reports to richard. It was my pleasure to know him. He was a real gentleman, he did not last long as chief, unfortunately, but i think the assessor would have been a very secure job with a good paycheque , but he rose to take the challenge of police chief and unfortunately that did not last. I want to give regards to his exwife, elizabeth colton, and his children rj and ashley. The father was a great man. My mother was muriel schapiro, born february 26, 1920 in chicago, a nice jewish girl who sang italian opera. My father settled in india. [indiscernible] they risk their lives to form the c. I. O. My uncle, may he rest in peace, was known as the chicago kid. I have a brief poem that i dedicated to the men and women at the sfpd. And in love and memory of our fallen comrades. Ashes to ashes thank you. Your time is up. Can you submit the poem, if you would like . God bless the men and women of the sfpd. Next speaker, please. Hello, district 11. Usually i am more afraid of s. Of p. D. Today, weve got probably a poorly vetted and undertrained deputy over there who will interact with a member of the public in that fashion. I was very offended about that. There is an order that i know you take seriously. The website, lets talk about that real quick. Not surprising. We have infrastructure. It got shouted out a little early. There is the number of things. Yes, it needs some Quality Assurance work. Best thing you can do right now, it is not indexed, it is not indexed to internal or external search engines. You will do an old webpage. It will give you a 404 error. If anyone who does this that is a professional, it is the first thing you do. It is easy, it is a button. Maltres matrix staffing study , this will be a joke. They will come out and say, you need to bunch more. Because they will compare with all of the other Police Departments. Arent we better than that . Arent we betterthanaverage . Wont we figure out a way to fulfil the tasks, and get the ends that we seek as opposed to, hey, lets put more cops out there and give them every job that nobody else wants. That is not good for anybody. When they have too many of those things to do, then they are taxed then the tasks that do involve security and weaponry, then those are the things that they have less acumen at. I appreciate in the commissioner noting commissioner hammers work. I thought it was well presented. I think the commissioner was baiting these sometimes back when he has commended the commissioner. And said i was president , i let her do it with the train. Thank you. I dont thank you were being debated or any other Public Comments. Good evening. How many minutes . Two minutes. Can you start me over . Please. I would like to use the overhead. I am here concerning my son who was murdered august 14th, 2006 next month will be his anniversary, august 14th. He was shot at 3 00 p. M. In broad daylight from a semi automatic gun, 30 rounds of bullets left. I am still coming here as usual every wednesday to bring awareness to my son and other children that are dying senselessly. You just got to talking about all the other homicides that recently happened. I said last time that i was here that homicides were going to happen again because here is the summer and they are happening. Three of them, one of the boyss family members are in our circle we are expecting them on this thursday coming up, the boys that were with the young boy. So we talk about families suffering. These families are suffering and we are talking about Police Killings. I just wish that the intention that they give to the Police Killings they give that same attention to the community violence, but it is not there and i dont know how to make it happen. But there is nothing i can do about it. I know that august 14th, i just want to let you guys know that my son did have a father. He was not a single son. He had two parents at home. This is what the perpetrators left me of my son. I see i show this because they want people to see what i am going through. Here are the perpetrators and the murderers of my son. They are walking the street to kill again. What do we do . I am asking for help. Thank you. You still have a quorum. Line item 9 whether to disclose discussion on item 8. Code section 67. 12a action. Is there a motion. So moved. Second. Is all in favor. Public comment . There is no public. All in favor. Opposed. I assume the motion was not to disclose. Yes, that was my motion. Line item 10 adjournment action item. All in favor. Aye. Public comment. Thank you. Good morning. The meeting will come to order. Welcome to the thursday, july 18th meeting. My name is supervisor gordan mar and im the chair of this committee. Im joined by supervisor aaron peskin, brown is running late and shell be with us in a few minutes. Thank you to this committees clerk, john carole and id like to thank kerwin cooley at sf gov tv for staffing this meeting. Yes, please ensure you silence your cellphones and speakers cards are part of the file should be submitted to the clerk. Items will appear on the july 30th, 2019 board of supervisors agenda unless otherwise stated. Thank you mr. Clerk. For item number one, since supervisor brown is a co sponsor, im going to hold off on that. Well call the items out of order. Mr. Clerk, can you please call item number 2. Clerk agenda item number 2 is a resolution regarding non renew of a historical property contract the owner of 960 market. Under chapter 71 of the administrative code notifying the assess Recordings Office and authorization the notice of the non renewal and record a notice of non renewal. As you may be aware theres a state law called the mills act, which we administer through charter 71, i think it is, of our administrative code. It is an incentive for Property Owners to invest in their Historic Properties and gives them property tax abatement for a rolling period of 10 years. During my second tour of duty on the board of supervisors, we granted one such contract to the old chronical building, it had since moved out. Today, it is a beautiful restored Historic Building with the Ritz Carleton residentses up above at the corner of market and kearney. They have received substantial tax benefits. The board of supervisors retains the ability to stop that tax relief at any time with a 10year notice. And insofar as they have now recouped their investment in that historical resource, i thought it correct and right that we terminate the mills act and recoup those dollars to the general fund. The Historic Preservation agreed with that and i believe ms. Fergusson is here on behalf of the Planning Department and the Historic Preservation commission and i will turn it over to her. Thank you, supervisor. Good morning, my name is sham on first thinfergusson. I have a resolution for non renewal of the mills act contract for 690 Market Street. The mills act contract for 690 Market Street was approved by the Planning Commission on marc. The board of supervisors approved it on november 18th, 2008 and it was recorded on the anniversary date of the contract in 2009. The ninestorey office tower originally constructed in 1889 to 90 and the a joining 16storey tower constructed in 1905 or subject the to the mills act contract. The eightstorey completed in 2007 is not subject to the mills act contract. Even though the Property Owner wanted it would be but we said no. The rehabilitation workout lined in the mills act contract has been completed and the maintenance workout lined in the contract is on going. As supervisor mentioned, the mills act legislation offers local government to qualified Historic Properties. Disagreement provides tax reductions to those properties who can allocate those savings towards Maintenance Plans to preserve the property. The city currently holds 37 active mills act contracts. So, under administrative codes chapter 71, the members act mils effective on the date it was recorded. It has a term of 10 years and one year is added to the term of the contract on the anniversary date, unless notice of non renewal is given. The mills act contract allows the Property Owner or the city to not renew the contract. Notice of non renewal must be served by either party before the annual renewal date. If notice is not served prior to the renewal date, one year will be automatically added to the term of the contract. If either Party Service notice of non renewal, the mills act will remain in effect for the balance of the period remaining since the last renewal. The Planning Department does recommend serving the notice of non renewal to the Property Owner of 690 Market Street. The mills act contract has provided an incentives for rehabilitation work and non renewal a chiefs a better value between the benefits to the Property Owner and the cost to the city. This concludes my presentation and im happy to answer any questions. Thank you ms. Fergusson. Just by a larger mills act context, some of these, particularly on a smaller residential scale, will completely be recouped in the 10year period. As a matter of policy, we should look at these 37 kilometres and deciding which ones we want to terminate and which should continue and that should be the policy of this body. Are there any members of the public who wish to testify on this item. You have two minutes. If you are developing a contract for Historical Buildings, and its for the benefit for both the Historical Building and the community, there shouldnt be no time limit period. There shouldnt be no deadline to renew it. If its a good contract to begin with, and an understanding to begin with, there should be no deadline and you are causing more confusion. In the end the owner is tied up with other business and the same response to conflicts with the deadline and that deadline is accidentally or inintentionly missed, the owner of the Historical Building loses protection. So there shouldnt be a deadline on the contract to begin with. Its a good program and its a good program for life. From generation to generation to generation. If theres an earthquake in the building it collapsed. You are making more work for yourself. Thank you. Are there any other members of the public that wish to testify on this item . Good morning, supervisors, im going to speak entirely as a citizen today. Im here on another item but this caught my attention. Peter cohen. Ive been involved in neighborhood activism for a while. I think i remember this project and this is the Ritz Carleton time shares, right . Or whatever it is . And what was challenging at the time and i dont know if this is why the city is not renewing the mills act. This was pitched as a Housing Project and even then we had a housing supply need. The argument was this would be helpful to the Property Owner restoring the building because they were also going to be investing and creating more housing for our citys needs. Even though it was market rate housing, everyone knew it would be highend. There was a sense it was sort of an underlying logic in the city for going those tax dollars. When it was built as time share condos, a Ritz Carleton club, i dont think anybody was aware of that on the community side. It seemed a little bit kind of opportunityizing what should be a precious tool to incentivize Historic Preservation but the actual use of our Historic Structures in a way that has a public benefit. I dont know if thats how things played out for our electives but we were caught off guard about what was being proposed and hopefully the use of this mills act is essentially the city foregoing taxes will be actually used in a way that will really see the outcome of the building reuse having its greatest public benefit. Thank you. Thank you. Are there any other Public Comments on this item . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Any additional comments or questions for my colleagues . Id be happy to send this to the full board with positive recommendation. Great. Done. Welcome, supervisor brown. Why dont we go back to item number 1. Mr. Clerk, can you call that item. Clerk agenda item number one is ar ordinance amending the Building Code to wave specified fees for 100 affordable Housing Projects and accessory dwelling units projects for oneyear Pilot Program and affirming the Planning Departments determination under ceqa. Thank you. Well, first i wanted to thank mayor breed and her staff for her work on this legislation to wave Building Code fees for 100 Affordable Housing and also accessory dwelling units. Im proud to co sponsor this legislation along with supervisor brown. And i appreciate the opportunity for us to have brought this back to the j. A. O. Committee for a second hearing to consider some amendments and today im introducing throw amendments to this legislation. I want to change the date wait a minute. I dont know if you guys got this. Here is the deadline for you. So, i have three amendments that im introducing. First i would like to amend to change the retro activity date from february 26th, 2019, to june 1st, 2019. So that is a total length of the Pilot Program remains at about 15 months as originally contemplated and expected by d. B. I. Secondly, while i support the legislation waving building fees for 100 affordable Housing Projects, i would like to amend to include reporting requirements to understand who is benefiting from the fee waivers. This includes whether the a. D. U. Is a Single Family home or multiunit building. For the length of the time the applicant opened the property and whether they intend to representative the property. We would like to understand if applicants are individuals or large corporations and who own multiple Properties Across San Francisco. As with any pilot, gathering and assessing data is vital to our decision to continue the program. Finally, i would like to amend to limit the eligible applicants of the fee waivers to singlefamily homes, multi unit buildings up to four units and not profit organizations. San francisco gives monetary incentives for a housing development, we need to ensure our dollars are truly meeting our housing needs. Since the launch of the a. D. U. Program, most the overwhelming majority of permits, a. D. U. Permits have been for multiunit buildings yet there are opportunities in my district and across the city to add density in increasing the housing supply in singlefamily homes or smaller Apartment Buildings. This waiver this fee waiver will incentivize a. D. U. Production where its been under developed. The fee waiver also insin ta vice victims who want to build a a. D. U. And are experiencing prohibitive barriers to entry. We should support everyday members in our community to stay in their homes, provide housing for their family members and create rental units for members of our community. Additional financial incentives would help immensely. What we do not want to do is to subsidize private developers for Real Estate Investors in large Apartment Buildings with an incentives, they do not need and can absolutely afford to pay themselves. The amendment is not perfect, my intention is to support homeowners and small Property Owners to create more housing and i look forward to seeing an increase in a. D. U. S and the results of the pilot so colleagues, i request that you accept my amendment. Supervisor brown. I really appreciate us having that conversation yesterday about raising the unit count. I know when you were looking at it, you were looking at if for singlefamily homes where the owner doesnt live there. And so, we talked about raising it to four. I have to say too, when i was out and about last night, i was looking at a lot of the buildings in my district and i was in another district too where a lot of the opportunities for a. D. U. S could be 10 and under. And i know thats where we look at our inclusionary and its a standard. I just thought, could we have this discussion about numbers and what that might mean today before we vote on this amendment . So, i am just saying, can we think about raising it to 1 10 . 10 units and under. We can have additional discussion now about the number of units in a building that would be eligible for the fee waiver. Its four units or in buildings of four units or less and theres an article from the chronicle that sparked my additional thinking about this from april 18th. New use for San Francisco garages and upscale apartments. This article highlights a Real Estate Investor that has added 12a. D. U. S to five different buildings. The one unit highlighted in the new a. D. U. The rent is 5,750 a month so its my strong feeling that for, again, for the Real Estate Investors who have been adding a. D. U. To large Apartment Buildings, they dont those are not the type of folks that really need a few thousand dollars fee waiver incentive to add a. D. U. S, i prefer to target the fee favor and really a public subsidy to expand a. D. U. S to Property Owners that really need that and it would help move the needle further on bringing more a. D. U. S on to the market . Well, i appreciate and i respect what you are saying. I think, a. , i talked to planning and district 5 has the most a. D. U. S and i asked them whats the average price. The average price in district 5 is about 2500 for a one bedroom for the a. D. U. S and a lot of them are in the larger Apartment Buildings, you are correction, absolutely. When you go out and look for an apartment in district 5, whether its an old victorian apartment, the a. D. U. At 2500 is between 1200 and 1500 less. So, they are affordable. Much more affordable and i read that article too and i think that was bernal heights, right. Where someone made a luxury a. D. U. Twobedroom a. D. U. And thats not the norm. That was something that was unusual. Almost all the a. D. U. S in my district, which has the most, and so im looking at the a. D. U. Numbers are one bedroom and studio apartments. And theyre not the luxury. People arent spending highend finishing on them and things like that. So theyre affordable apartments. Also, since seniors are our Fastest Growing population, these a. D. U. S without stairs, are really important to have. Ive been out and about in my district quite a lot lately and ive been talking to a lot of the seniors that live in apartments that are threestoreys up or twostoreys up and theyre flats and Apartment Building requests noso elevators and they would be happy to live in an a. D. U. On a ground floor. I just feel like were in a situation right now in the city that were really struggling to get housing and hopefully Affordable Housing. The a. D. U. S too, are also places where young couples or singles can go and its their first apartment or apartment that you can move into that is affordable. I just feel like, you know, at least bringing the number up a little bit to 10, so it would be 10 and under, its something that i think is really important to try to give us more Affordable Housing. Were always going to have the people that go in and take advantage of a situation and build that luxury a. D. U. In a very popular neighborhood and i think they were asking 5500 or Something Like that for it. I really also feel and i feel very strongly about this and i really appreciate that we find out, who is actually building and had that reporting. Who is building these a. D. U. S . I dont know. We all have speculations but we dont know. This reporting request, chair mar, is so important and i really want to thank you for that. Thank you. Supervisor peskin. So theres nothing in the packet that tells us how much the fees are being waved. Maybe we can hear from the b. L. A. And from d. B. U. As to how much these fees are. First of all, let me just say i completely concur on the 100 Affordable Housing. I do share the sentiment did not wave fees that pay for our inspectors and and i dont think its anecdotal for and are the folks who are taking advantage of its great and i support that but i dont know what this means is were going to basically use other dollars to subsidize the work of building inspectors and that is what it means. I dont know that we have to be basically subsidizing veratos when that thing is going to sash flow and we can give the mom and pop an incentive. The question is where is that point and lets do that based on data and anecdotally we know most a. D. ,s are going into buildings that are larger than four units and maybe we can hear as to how much the fees generally are and what the breakdown is as to where theyre being built. Thank you. Is there someone here from d. B. I. That could help . Provide and the permit fees for a. D. U. S. Good morning, supervisors, bill strong with legislative and Public Affairs at d. B. I. Weve had our i. D. Group take a look at fees looking actually at the original proposed date from february 26th and they came up with 22 affordable Housing Projects and that 100 category actually most of those came in in april and may. We havent seen those applications in june or july yet. Out of those 22, i think that the total number of fees that were estimated is about 675,000. And those are a little hard to say how accurate they are because i think you may know that currently, d. B. I. Doesnt collect any fees on those 100 affordables until the c. F. C. Is issued. So, projects could change in the fee total element could change. That is probably a ballpark and if you have reached out, the 22 projects at that amount i think it comes to roughly 30 or 40,000 on a rough average. Of course, you cant really average it because some buildings are much bigger and so fourth. If i can insert myself at that spot. I have no quarrel with that at all. These are projects that are funded by the city. Its basically youre putting 675,000 into the project that i mean, its six and one halfdozen and the other. Im fine with that. I think we all are. Absolutely. And on the a. D. U. S, again, looking at the data we have right now, there were 99a. D. U. Projects from that february 26tg forward and those fees amounts to 280,000. Sour looking at a rough average of 3,000, 3500 and with some margin of error there. The department is happy to work with the supervisor and come up with a reporting additional requirements that are necessary and obviously the fee numbers will get more accurate as we actually have projects that we can specify. Through the chair to mr. Strong, how is that 180 projects in this time period . Do you have a breakdown of how many of them were in buildings over four, over 10. I do not have that in my finger tips but i can certainly get that for you. I think planning does. I think planning does have that. Anything else . Well, would you have that figure or some the a. D. U. S and applicants or permits that were in and to larger and for not just from february. Theres been figures shared about that. Thank you so much. We can go to Public Comment on this item. So, members of the public, please step forward. You have two minutes to speak. I showed you a Apartment Building complex being built for 57 million i demonstrated and every deal that was toured by gavin. It was out aged. For 64 million. You eliminate all this in a big stride in front and 100 nonprofit developer for low income bracket people. You dont have to charge no fees. Get rid of the developer that is charging and interested in private only. You wont have this problem. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Peter cohen. Support the legislation seems like really kind of low hanging fruit and weve been trying to trim margin inover the last couple of years as Construction Costs were driven by materials cost have really