Transcripts For SFGTV Government Access Programming 20240714

Of the budget and finance committee. Im joined by supervisor Raphael Mandelman and aaron peskin, whos sitting in for supervisor stefani. Colleagues, can i have a motion to excuse supervisor stefani . Thank you. [gavel]. Chair fewer madam clerk, do you have any announcements . Clerk yes. [agenda item read]. Chair fewer thank you very much, madam clerk. Can you please call item number one. [agenda item read]. Chair fewer thank you very much, madam clerk. Colleagues, you might remember that this item was before us at the last budget and finance committee, and i requested it be continued so that we could get a b. L. A. Report. I think we have jim hendray before us from the San Francisco Public Utilities commission. Good afternoon, supervisors. I am james hendray from the San Francisco Public Utilities commission. We are here to talk about an ordinance introduced by mayor london breed. The goal is to ensure that San Francisco receives maximum value and timeliness to benefit from the energy program. This builds off of a number of resolutions and ordinances that the board of supervisors have task today significantly reduce Greenhouse Gas emissions from a variety of sources. These activities compliment activities going on by the state and the California Air Resources Board as part of ab32, californias Global Warming solutions act. One of the main programs operated by the California Air Resources Board is the lcfs, and the goal is to reduce Greenhouse Gas emissions intensity and emissions by 20 by 2030, and its progressively stricter standards to reduce emissions over time and creates an Incentive Program that those that exceeds the standards can receive credits which they can then sell. As usual, San Francisco is ahead of the curve, which is why were here today. We have a very symbiotic relationships with the p. U. C. Sfmta has been participating in the lpsc Program Since 2017, has received many credits, and we enters into an m. O. U. To submit proceeds from the credits by 50 . The ordinance before you today would allow the sfpuc which would be selling the credits to exceed the 1 million threshold. There are a variety of safeguards that are embedded in the program. Basically, the program is run by the its overseen by the California Air Resources Board. Theyre the ones that basically register all the people who might be purchasing the credits, so we know who the market and buyers are. The credits are done through the air resource board, which basically kind of serves the central bank. Price data is publicly available, so we know what transactions are, where markets are going, have a sense of where to do it, and were looking at other safeguards on the p. U. C. Side in terms of structuring the bidding process to ensure that we get maximum value, and the bidding process will be overseen by the current planning group. As for the uses of the credit, the sfpuc plans to use a contract as it has done for similar programs to engage in a variety of program thats would reduce Greenhouse Gas emissions, so basically, were trying to sort of pay it forward, so were trying to do what we currently do, maintaining Greenhouse Gas resources so they still remain available. Sfmta has proposed to put their money into a variety of sustainability programs. Good morning, chair fewer, supervisor mandelman, supervisor peskin. Se Severin Campbell from the budget and legislative analysts office. Our analysis of the fiscal impact is there are currently 54,000 credits that have been accumulated to date based on current prices. The estimated revenue would be anywhere from 8. 6 million to 10 million. We consider this to be a policy matter for the board. If the board does approve the ordinance, we recommend that p. U. C. Report on the p. U. C. S protocols for selling these credits and report annually on the sale of the credits, including the amount of renew credits in the sfpuc. Chair fewer thank you very much. Lets open this up for Public Comment. Are there any members of the public that would like to comment on item number one . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. [gavel]. Chair fewer colleagues, any comments or questions . I would like to take the recommendation of the b. L. A. . So id make a motion to accept the motions of the budget and legislative analyst. Thank you very much. [gavel]. Chair fewer id like to send this to the full board with a positive recommendation. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. [gavel]. Chair fewer madam clerk, can you please call im going to take this a little bit out of order. Can i call item number three. Clerk yes. [agenda item read]. Okay. Good morning, chair chair fefe supervisors. Today, you have before you an ordinance approving the Health Service system plans and contribution rates for the calendar year 2020. The Health Service system agrees with the budget analysts report, so at this time, i wish to comment on the record, the key components of the cost changes. I can either take questions throughout or toward the end of my presentation. Its the preference of the chair. I am most grateful for the significance of this work and those involved. This increases the amount contributed by the employer and the employer toward retiree premiums. The survey here notes the amounts contributed by the employer for the employeeonly coverage for the medical plan. For plan year 2020, the rate is at 705. 92. This represents an increase of 5. 04 from last year. The Health System serves employers from the city, the community college, the Unified School District as well as the superior court. The 4. 95 aggregate cost increase includes costs for all medical, vision, dental, and longterm Disability Insurance he greggate medical only cost for the increased Health System is 5. 7 while the city is only 5. 5 . This rates are within the National Range of 5. 5 to 6 . The Health System contracts with three medical insurance carriers. Kaiser permanente administrates a plan. The Health Service board approved after overall rate increase of 6. 5 for retirees and medicare retirees covered for could i sKaiser Permanente. Kaiser also provides medicare and premedicare retiree access to their facilities in california, oregon, and wash, which are also mentioned in the aggregate 5. 57 . A subset of current Infertility Services will be aligned with the cost share in 2020. Kaiser permanente senior advantage retirees have a rate increase of 11. 7 for members who live in california. As you may recall, Kaiser Permanente retirement rates decreased by 0. 2 last year. This rate reflects a reconciliation with the forecasted rather than the actual medicare reimbursement. The Health Services board also approved an enhancement for kaiser medicare plan where theres a transportation benefit for up to 24 oneway rides per year. This benefit is scheduled to take effect january 1, 2020. The Health Service board approved a 0. 9 increase for the trioh. M. O. Plan, and a 2. 3 increase for the h. M. O. Plan. The board also approved two plan Design Changes. One, members will have an improved access to receive vaccines at participating pharmacies, and secondly, the members will be able to access additional counseling without a specific disease diagnosis. The third medical plan is United Health care. United health care administers the p. P. O. City plan for active and early retirees as well as the Medicare Advantage p. P. O. For medicare retirees. The Health Service board approved a rate of 10 for active and early retirees, and the cost impact of one Design Change contributed to this increase. The Health Services board approved one Design Change for 2020, unites health care p. P. O. This reduced the outofpocket maximum, expected to have minimal Financial Impact to the plan which will benefit families using high levels of care. The United Health care p. P. O. Advantage has a rate increase of 16. 5 . There are no planned Design Changes. The 10 of this rate increase is due to the federal insurance tax. The rest of the increase is tax and utilization. We had a medical Second Opinion service and is going to allow this to expire in december. The health plans are now supporting the membership in seeking Second Opinions within their plans. The vision benefit, the basic vision benefit remains the same. There is a 4. 3 increase for the member contribution for the optional buyout v. S. P. Premier plan. We have multiple dental plans. There are some rate increases for the delta dental p. P. O. At 5. 3 . The board approved a 3 increase for the u. H. C. Delta h. M. O. Plan. For retiree dental, the board approved no rate change for the delta dental plan, but it approved two Design Changes. It will increase the cap from 60 to 50 , and the second is an increase in the annual deductible from 50 to 75. Life insurance is now provided by the hartford, who acquired the group life and disability business of aetna in 201. The Health Service board has approved an aggregate increase of 12. 4 for these products. The specific changes are listed at the 20 for basic life. Theres no rate increase changes for the childrens life insurance, accidental death and dismemberment services. So that concludes my remarks. Can i take any questions . Chair fewer yes. Lets hear from the b. L. A. First. The board of supervisors is being asked to approve the health, vision, and dental plan rates for 2027, to start in the year 2020. I wont repeat many of the things said today, but we do show the total cost to employees, employer, and retirees. Its going up by about 35 million from 757 million to 802 million. We do recommend approval. Chair fewer supervisors, any comments . I do have a question. We had questions around services for infertility treatments for singlefamily women. Actually, i think it is somewhat discriminatory, so can you tell me a little bit about that. Since we are talking about our contribution rates, i think we should be talking about the coverage and who is covered. Yes. As i stated at the last hearing, we are scheduled to present the staff recommendations to the Health Service board at their august meeting . Were still on track for doing that. We are in receipt of some data from all three plans. We are meeting with them regularly to discern what the services of this infertility benefit has been over the last two years. I dont have the recommendations available today for this hearing, but we hear the concern, and are trying to determine what what steps need to be taken to ensure that our membership has access either to the infertility benefit, or whether theyll need access to fertility service, where theyre not infertile from a medical diagnosis point of view, and perhaps they are in a lesbian relationship or a single person. So were looking at how theyre constructed and how the plans are doing them. There are some thirdparty vendors that are available to assist that have a lot of appeal on the surface of how they could help our members feel more welcome and comfortable, so were trying to figure it outaou and are commid to putting all the recommendations before the Health Service board at their august meeting. Chair fewer because we know if these services are available to heterosexual couples, then actually these benefits should be accessible to single women or just others. Well, the medical services a woman may be infertile, and she may not be able to conceive in a normal sexual relationship as a heterosexual couple would, so having Assistive Services for Reproductive Technology plan thats not covered under the plan because its not a medical diagnosis. Chair fewer but i understand if heterosexual couples were having a hard time receiving, they would just wait a year, and all the benefits accessible to them without any conditions at all. That is all old school thinking, and that is not necessarily true. Chair fewer it is true that it is a person who maybe as a single woman in her 40s and not ovulating as often and not able to be pregnant, then wouldnt that be also considered a medical condition . Yes, if that ovulation was considered a medical condition . Chair fewer if there was a low egg count. Yes. Those are diagnostic procedures that would lead to a diagnosis of infertility. Chair fewer and then, would single woman be eligible for that . Yes. Chair fewer okay. And all the benefits yes. Chair fewer okay. Currently . Yes. Chair fewer another concern, it seems that pharmaceuticals, other prescriptions that are more expensive, when you buy them through our Insurance Plan versus outofpocket, ive seen comparisons where theres 1,000 difference. So why is it that are people covered, for example, under blue shield would pay more for prescriptions using the medical plan versus just paying outofpocket . We have opportunistic pharmacies that are taking advantage of that plan. We were not aware of that previously, so we are in conversation with the pharmacies on how to best manage the situation. Because these pharmacies are popping up, or these pharmaceutical services are out there. There certainly is news to this certainly is news to me, so its something that we have to find out how to grapple with. If you are Contracting Services with a pharmacy, you are paying whatever that price is. If youre buying it from a pharmacy that is one of our contracted, its a negotiated price. So thats why this can occur, so as i said, it was brought to our attention, and we need to understand who are how prevalent that market practice is. Chair fewer so i think thats my question, how prevalent is that because just from this one example, i think we can agree that its rather alarming that we have the assumption that we are covered under a medical plan, that our pharmaceuticals would be less expensive, quite frankly, than outofpocket, but there are instances when its not. So you have no idea how far this extends or if this is something that is at a level to be very alarming or that or have you done any analysis . Yeah, i wouldnt be able to speculate on that at this time, but its alarming, and it is worth the attention that we need to spend on it. Chair fewer okay. Thank you very much. Lets open this up for Public Comment. Any members of the public who would like to comment on item number three . Seeing none, Public Comment is now closed. [gavel]. Supervisor mandelman yeah, ill move this forward to the full board with a positive recommendation. Chair fewer yeah. I think we can take that without objection. Thank you very much. [gavel]. Chair fewer madam clerk, can we go back and read item 2, please. [agenda item read]. Chair fewer thank you very much. Okay. This was also presented last week as an item, and now, were coming back, i believe, with some language amended to actually institute a labor harmony agreement. So do we have julia dawson here . Chair, members of the budget and finance committee, before i go into my brief presentation on the agreement, i do want to say that we are proposing to make a small change to the agreement that you are currently considering for approval . We are proposing to add a clause under section 512, new section k, and were submitting copies of that new section for your review. And we are also submitting a copy of the contract as amended by this new section. And this new section would promote labor harmony between j. C. Decaux and any of their potential partners who would be sourcing attendant services. Supervisor fewer thank you very much. So with your approval, im going to go ahead and do a brief presentation on the agreement. Chair fewer thank you. Linda, can we have the projector. So you can see this is the newly designed toilet for our program and existing agreement. This current agreement was signed in 1998. It currently offers 28 a. D. A. Accessible public toilets and has 114 total kiosks at this point in time. 24 are advertising and 69 are new stand. There have been 13. 5 million flushes in these facilities since the agreement was started, and we had about 825,000 flushes last year. So the new in the new agreement, were proposing to replace the toilets and kiosks with uptodate technology and a more contemporary and cutting edge design. It is time for a refresh of this equipment. We will continue through this new program to provide safe, attractive and easier to use amenities. Theyll be lighter in color overall and have some light inside, which is not like the new one. Under this agreement, j. C. Decaux would be responsible for staffing at 11 locations, and the city can purchase additional toilets at cost. So one of the big highlights in this program, and we mentioned it briefly a second ago, is the staffing. So this agreement covers 11 locations. I think we all feel that the attendants are very crucial. They keep the units safe and attractive and improve the surrounding area. The intention here and as is memorialized in the agreement, that j. C. Decaux would continue to partner with a nonprofit for attendant services as a Workforce Development program. Should at some point in the future our need for a workforce diminish, the city can instead decrease the number of attendants and accept the number of attendant services in cash. Right now, we are currently staffing 11 decaux locations using a public works grant agreement, and these are the locations and the hours of service that were providing at several decauxs across the neighborhoods. So some members of this committee have asked about the potential for these new toilets. The cost is estimated currently at about 400,000 per unit, and if the city was interested in taking this option, it would need to allocate funding through the budget process to do so. I do want to highlight that not only would we be responsible for buying the toilet itself, but we would also need to consider the infrastructure expense at that location and Maintenance Services in addition to make sure that the toilets stay in good working condition. For the advertising kiosk, this program is essentially an exchange, so in exchange for public kiosks, we agree to allow for advertising on the public rightofway. In the newly proposed agreement, we would have 44 traditional kiosks in the new design with you with paper advertising like we do today. 70 of these kiosks would be digital, and one of every eight digital spots is reserved for public purpose. Were also proposing in this agreement to have 15 interactive kiosks, and that programming can be done by the city and promote wayfinding and any other Public Service announcement the city wishes to display. There will also be 20 proposed vending kiosks, and these vending kiosks can be used by local businesses as kind of a less expensive option to a more traditional brickandmortar presence. Decaux has committed that it will develop a policy that will govern the public space as well as policy that would determine leasing for the advertising on the kiosks, and we would return to the board for approval on that policy. Just a brief mention of the financial contributions in this contract. Inkind benefits can include Capital Investments in the toilets and kiosk and maintenance and monitoring, which is worth about 161. 5 million over the course of the contract. Decaux is committed to a onetime fee of 7 million. It would provide a revenue stream kind of similar to what the p. U. C. And other properties have today. A total benefit that weve calculated is 165. 13 million. Just like to talk briefly about the design process. Our goals were to find a design that was timeless, modern, and ambitious, consistent with the policy currently both at Historic Preservation commission and the arts commission, who both reviewed and approved this design. We had a design competition. 12 local firms proposed design. We had a jury panel of design experts determine three finalists. We had an extensive Outreach Campaign that included various media outlets. We displayed at the public library, at u. S. Plaza, we did outreach to Additional Community groups and received more than 200 responses to the various proposed design. When we finally went for review and approval, our design was unanimously approved by civic design, arts commission, and Historic Preservation. These are a couple of the views of the newly proposed design from various perspectives, and we do have a representative here today if youre interested in talking about urban design. As you can see, the approach is very different than the parisian style of our current toilets. Its a much more forward thinking design. Its very modern, very rounded, just a different aesthetic than what weve done before. This gives you a view of what a little vending kiosk might look like out on the street. Its similar to how some of the new stand kiosks are in the current agreement, where they have a little more that opens up, and displays on the little doors. Thats the end of my presentation, and im happy to take any questions. Chair fewer colleagues, questions, comments . Can we have a b. L. A. Report, please . Supervisor peskin i just wanted to thank carolyn at public works for her work on this, along with miss dawson. Chair fewer ditto. Yes. This resolution approves the 21. 5year contract between the city and j. C. Decaux. Under the contract, j. C. Decaux would have the right to operate 114 advertising kiosks in exchange for operating the public Toilet Program which has been described here. We provide estimates on page 8 of our report. Over this 21. 5year term, we estimate the cost to the city would be about 7 million. Chair fewer thank you very mu much. And we recommend approval. Chair fewer i have one question. I see on page 7 , that it says each toilet shall be operational 24 hours a day unless required by the director. Will these toilets be operational 24 hours a day . So many of them are operational 24 hours a day. The only ones that arent are where we have provided attendant services because were concerned with afterhour activity in the area. So many of them are open 24 hours. I think our intention here is to continue the practice that weve presented today, continuing to working with the board on what these hours should be. Many of these will continue to be 24, but we may mutually decide it makes sense for the Public Safety to shut some of them in the nighttime hours to make sure the facilities are safe. Chair fewer so my next question in this is in this agreement, j. C. Decaux is paying for staffing at these. Yes, at 11 locations. Chair fewer my question is, are they just paying for staffing for 24 hours a day or 24 hours a day . Right now, its 10 or 11 hours a day at this point in time. We certainly can adjust them, but their contract gives them an hourly total equipment. So if we decide we can shorten hours some places and lengthen hours in others, thats something we can do. Chair fewer is it based on a certain number of hours a day . Yes. Its based on 11 locations, ten hours a day. Chair fewer and what are the size of the new toilets and kiosks . Theyre a little bigger. Chair fewer the toilets and the kiosk . No, the kiosks are the same size, but the toilets are taller. Chair fewer are they taking up more surface area . They are a little bit wider, so we are mindful that some areas that have a tighter sidewalk location, we might need to adjust it a few feet in either direction just to ensure that everyone is safe. Chair fewer and do we have a photograph of this new toilet . We do have one upstairs, but we didnt bring it this time. Chair fewer thats okay if you dont have it. I just thought the public would like to see it. But i see that we have an agreement here, and colleagues, lets open this up for Public Comment first. Are there any members of the public that would like to comment on item number two . Good morning, supervisors. Good to see you again. I am the c. E. O. Of urban alchemies. We have been provide the practitioners at all of the public toilets. I just really wanted to i think my main purpose is coming today is to provide our support for this contract. Not just of course because we stabbed to stand to benefit as the practitioner staffing this toilet, but really wanted to share my experience in working with j. C. Decaux. As you know, ive been working with the nonprofit field in over 20 years in bayview and the city. Its really rare that we have someone reach out to us and try to partner with us. I know that j. C. Decaux has hired some of our practitioners after theyve moved on. I know that francois has mentored me, and i think its raised the bar, and i think our relationship with j. C. Decaux has been really important in terms of service. Them knowing their staff members, being able to have a relationship to call them to repair the toilets, and so the last thing i just wanted to say, we understand this. Most importantly, this is a crisis of homelessness in San Francisco and really across the country, but particularly on the west coast. And i think the most important thing is weve been able to really put our Heads Together and think critically about what the Services Mean to not only the Homeless Population and the Health Population in friSan Francisco, but the entire population in San Francisco and the quality of life. Chair fewer thank you. Next speaker. Good morning. My name is harvey turner, and i started working by attending these public rest rooms in 2016, and now im a supervisor for those same toilets, and i would like to say that j. C. Decaux has been a tremendous help in me some developing relationships with them. Im a longterm offender, so these 11 kiosks that we monitor has created a great opportunity for people like me coming out of incarceration and back into the workforce. Theyre always there if we need repairs, as well as deescalation in those areas that we monitor the rest rooms in. Im in support of them just as much as they have supported me, and i hope that we can continue to grow this relationship, not only in the 11 rest rooms that we attend today, but im hoping we can attend the existing 14 so they wont be as troubled. When we first starts, these rest rooms were populated by Homeless People going in and just taking up residence in there, but since weve been there, theres been a tremendous change in those areas. Im truly grateful for d. J. Decaux. Im tree j. C. Decaux, and im truly grateful for the opportunity to be in the workforce and the opportunities that ive been given. Thank you. Chair fewer thank you. Next speaker, please. Hello. Im sandy garcia. I was one of the system monitors. We have a good relation with decaux. So and also, ive been outside. I see how many people use this toilet, and how they make the city look good. We had tourists that were around. Theyre like man, these toilets are really good. Were the only city that provided those kind of toilets for me, so i i really say thank you for j. C. Decauxs opportunity for give it to me, and thank you for approving it. Chair fewer thank you. Next speaker, please. J. C. Decaux have been very instrumental on allowing us to make a connection with the community, for a lot of Homeless Individuals thats out there that have been controlling the environment where the j. C. Decaux locations are out there. It also helps us to support the tourists that come from Different Countries to feel safe when they want to use the rest room because in the locations, a lot of restaurants and Different Companies dont allow tourists to come in and use the rest rooms, so j. C. Decaux has been very supportive of that, and my whole organization is very grateful. Chair fewer thank you. Next speaker. Good morning. My name is mike, and im with teamsters local 386. Im part of the team that originally negotiated j. C. Decaux. Just real quickly, agreements do include fully paid Teamster Health and welfare. Weve had a very strong and professional relationship with j. C. Decaux. I do want to thank all parties that were involved in getting the harmony language in there, and their professionalness, and with that, im in support. Chair fewer thank you. Any other Public Comment . Public comment is now closed. [gavel]. Chair fewer i make a motion to accept the proposed amend. Can i do that without objection . Thank you very much. [gavel]. Chair fewer and i would like to make a motion to move this to the full board with a positive recommendation as amended. Thank you very much. Clerk madam clerk, the amendment is just to the legislation itself, but the full contract can be recommended to the board. Chair fewer thank you very much. [gavel]. Chair fewer madam clerk, can you call item 4. [agenda item read]. Chair fewer thank you very much. I believe we have amanda freed here from the treasurer and tax collectors office. Good morning, chair, supervisor mandelman. Amanda freed with the office of the treasurer and tax collector. Im here this morning to present for your approval a resolution that will extend our service and maintenance contract with manatron. The proposed resolution would extend the Software Service and Maintenance Agreement for five years to a total term of 2024. It also includes an additional four dp fouryear option to extend. Im happy to answer any questions you might have. Chair fewer could i have a b. L. A. Report, please. This resolution approves an extension of an existing software Maintenance Agreement with manatron. It extends it through 2023, which is why its subject info inform to board of supervisors approval. And we recommend approval. Chair fewer thank you very much. Lets open this up for Public Comment. Any members of the public like to comment on item 4 . Seeing none, Public Comment is now closed. [gavel]. Chair fewer i make a motion to move this to the full board with a positive recommendation. [gavel]. Chair fewer madam clerk, please read item five. [agenda item read]. Chair fewer thank you very much. And it is lee levinson that we have here . Yes. Chair fewer okay. And is mark daina here . Yes. Chair fewer youre the b. A. R. T. Manager . Yes. Chair fewer okay. You may start. Thank you, supervisor. I am lee levinson. We jointly maintain stations, and this item before you is an important Capital Project related to canopies above escalators in those stations, and those canopies are to keep those escalators safe and reduce the maintenance costs due to weather. The funding source, this is an agreement to share the costs equally with b. A. R. T. The estimated cost is in the neighborhood of 90 million, so this would authorize 45 million to come from general Obligation Bond funding from the 500 million bond issuance that was authorized in 2014, and we look for your support for this and are here to answer any questions. Thank you. Supervisor mandelman madam chair . So i get the importance of these canopies and doing something to protect the escalators from the elements is important, and everyones very frustrated when these escalators are not working, so im hoping in the decades to come, with the canopies, well have these escalators working more often. But as i was looking at this, i was struck by the price tag. 90 million for canopies. I think its a total of 21, so that breaks down to Something Like in the neighborhood of 5 million for a fancy tent, it seems like. Why is it so expensive to build these canopies . Well, i think i will ask mark daina to come forward as being closest to the project construction. Good morning. Thank you for having me. Mark daina, project for b. A. R. T. Im the project supervisor on the escalator contracts. The original estimate that we had was based on the two pilot canopies that we recently completed. We got with the economy of scale and the escalation. Literally, that was the price of something similar. In the meantime, Market Conditions have changed. Its harder to get contractors interested in public works projects right now. Were getting less proposals on our contracts. The cost estimates that our consultants are providing are showing that the price is increasing overall for all materials and for the services that were obtaining. Theyre a specialized canopy. If youve seen the two pilot canopies that weve constructed, the ceiling is kind of like a floating cloud. It was a design that we worked with the city in developing. Theyre a little bit different than the ones in oakland. They are a little bit different materials. They are fiber reinforced plastic ceiling. Its hard to do work in the city streets. The Public Protection safety aspect is very important to us and the city. A lot of things go into this. We the Market Conditions being as they are, we would like to have this in place. We are hoping well get a lower price when we get the bids, but when we get the bids, if they are much higher than what the original estimates were, we would have a hard time being able to fund and award right away. Supervisor mandelman were the original estimates less than this 90 million . The original was 60 million for supervisor mandelman and how much were the two canopies that were already done . They were approximately 2. 3 million each, and that was the Construction Costs, so the construction overall was like 4 a little over 4. 5 million. Supervisor mandelman huh. And just how whats the breakdown of labor versus materials versus design kind of costs in a contract like that . Generally, the labor, depending on the type of material, but usually labor and materials are pretty close. Its been pretty close, depending on sometimes the materials are, you know, 60 of the costs, but, you know, like, for the ceiling that were talking about, lets say. And then, some of the Specialized Labor that goes into, like, for electricians in our systems that need to be in place, that drives our labor costs up. Supervisor mandelman and how much do we think were saving by doing these projects . Well, the project is protected by code. When we install a new escalator, we have to protect them. If we dont, if were not able to get a contract awarded, it would be hard to get our wed have to get a variance to put our escalators in and wait to get the canopies constructed in the future, and im not sure we could get that variance. It really affects a lot of our projects here, so supervisor mandelman thank you. Chair fewer so i understand that the we have to have the canopies that were required to by code. But what exactly is required by code . Because what ive heard from you is theres a certain design element, the materials. What what is this exactly to code or is this going beyond what the code actually requires . The code requires we protect the investment. You can make a roof wider without the walls, so theres a certain angle required for the rainfall, so if your roof was wider, lets say, to protect your escalator, you could do Something Like that. If you made if the roof was smaller side, then your walls have to do more of the protection. The top of these walls are open if youve seen these canopies, the walls are open the top of the walls. Chair fewer so can you provide for us today a photo of the canopy that you are designing to put over these escalators . I dont believe i have one. Chair fewer okay. Lets open this up for Public Comment. Are there any members of the public that would like to comment on this item . Seeing none, Public Comment is now closed. [gavel]. Chair fewer do we have a b. L. A. Report on this . Thank you. Yes. This resolution approves a Funding Agreement between m. T. A. And b. A. R. T. Has has been discussed. We show the table on page 21 of our report. The total budget is 91. 3 million. The citys share is 45 million, and in terms of the question, the share does include two canopies installed. Theres contingencies in this budget, separated out from the budget. The m. T. A. Share is proposition a bond, and we do recommend approval. Chair fewer okay. Thank you very much. I understand that part of this is retroactive, is that correct . Yes, thats right. Its retroactive to cover the two pilot projects at civic center and powell street. Chair fewer so colleagues, i am thinking that this is such a hefty amount of money that actually i would like to get more information on this. For example, what do they really look like, what is the guarantee on this, how long do they last, what is the maintenance for them . If other cities put these up, what are the other cities doing . How much are they saving . There is an issue of our escalators being clogged, those type of things, so id like to continue this item for one week. Id like a motion to continue this item for one week. Can i get that without objection . Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Chair fewer so id like to take out of or the items number 13. Madam clerk, can you please read item number 13. [agenda item read]. Chair fewer okay. Hello. Welcome. Could you please introduce yourself. Hi. Good morning, chair, members of the budget and finance subcommittee. My name is gloria wu. Im with the Mayors Office of housing and Community Development . And we would like to thank you for sponsoring this resolution . So the city through the Mayors Office of housing and Community Development had the opportunity to apply for a state grant for Construction Costs to for a Community Center in the richmond district. And our office, mohcd went through a procurement process, and we selected c. Y. C. C. Y. C. Is here today if theres any question. Due to the state process, they