Them seniors will be able to remain in my community. All of them had been ellised act, and they were just waiting for the final blow. And because of this money through the eras act, the city was able to step in and buy that building. And now that building will be part of the citys Affordable Housing stock. And at least 40 of this fund will be dedicated to the preservation of existing housing just like that one. And i just feel like its so important were out there, buying these kinds of buildings that are getting elity acted to save clients in ellis acted to save clients in these types of buildings. Its my belief that the small site also helps build more neighborhood support for Affordable Housing generally. And ill just close by saying thank you for all of the hard work and the work from your staff, supervisor fewer. I just really appreciated it. Thank you. President yee okay. Thank you. Colleagues, can we take this same house, same call . Okay. Without objection, this ordinance is passed on First Reading unanimously. [gavel]. President yee madam clerk, please call the next item . Clerk item 8 is a resolution to authorize the general manager of the San FranciscoPublic Utilities commission to authorize a lease extension for the property located at 651 bryant street for the continued use by the San FranciscoPublic Utilities commission for a total annual base rent of approximately 578,000. President yee okay. Colleagues, can we take this item same house, same call . Without objection, this resolution is adopted unanimously. [gavel]. President yee madam clerk, please call the next item. Clerk item 9, resolution to approve the grant between the city and wu yee Childrens Services to support the citys implementation of the citywide plan for early care in education to increase the amount for a total amount of 3,840 million july 1, 2017 through june 30, 2020. President yee colleagues, can we take this same house, same call . Without objection, this resolution is adopted unanimously. [gavel]. President yee madam clerk, please call items 10 and 11 together. Clerk items 10 and 11 are resolutions that authorize the director of the Human Services agency to execute two grant agreements between the city and item 10, a grant with the San Francisco in Home ServicesPublic Authority for the provision of medical, health and dental benefits, the independent provider, july 1, 2019, through june 30, 2020, and for home bridge and provider Skill Development training and support for a total amount not to exceed 90. 7 million for a total agreement april 1, 2019 through april 1, 2020. President yee all right. Colleagues, can we take these items same house, same call . [gavel]. President yee without objection, these resolutions are adopted unanimously. Madam clerk, please call the next item. Clerk item 12 is a resolution to authorize the director of health to enter into a participation agreement between Public HealthBehavioral Health services and the california mental Health Services authority for the development of Technology BasedMental Health solutions intended to increase access to Mental Health support to underserved communities for 1. 2 million june 1, 2019 through june 30, 2022. President yee colleagues, can we take this same house, same call . Without objection, this resolution is adopted unanimously. [gavel]. President yee lets go to the next item, please. Clerk item 13 is a resolution to approve a master lease of a building located at 1601 quesada avenue with a base rent of approximately 200,000 per year and to adopt the appropriate findings. President yee colleagues, can we take this same house, same call . Without objection, this resolution is adopted unanimously. [gavel]. President yee madam clerk, please call item number 14. Clerk item 14 is an ordinance to amend the administrative code to require the city to close Juvenile Hall by december 31, 2021 and to affirm the ceqa determination. President yee okay. Supervisor walton . Supervisor walton thank you so much, president yee. First, i want to start off by saying thank you to the majority of my colleagues. We actually have nine of my colleagues who have signed on to this for a total of ten who are in support of this much needed and important change in transformation in our juvenile Justice System. I also want to say thank you to my dream team in district 10, especially tracey brown, who has been a leader working closely with supervisor ronens office and her strong team, as well as supervisor haneys office as we fight to work on this important legislation for our young people. With that said, i just want to go over a few points that i think are important as we get ready to move towards a vote, and then, i have a few amendments that we are adding to the ordinance. But one, i want to be clear that we would never put a system in place that is worse than our current Juvenile Hall. We are proposing an alternate tiff to Juvenile Hall that also provides a true opportunity for young people to be rehabilitated. Job training, Mental Health supports, education connections, an exposure with a noninstitutional focus that provides a true pathway to success, even for serious offenders. Individualized plans that are focused on the person and not the infraction. Young offenders of serious crimes that may harm themselves in society would have a place that provides all of those opportunities and focus on helping them change versus teaching them how to life institutionalized versus teaching them how to prepare for prison. I want to reiterate the fact is what were focused on is an expanded array of benefits. All of the changes that people like myself have made in our lives have been a result of mentorship, educational exposure, quality after school programs, but it has never been because of time in Juvenile Hall. I was incarcerated as a youth in Solano County and contra costa county. I have spoken as Log Cabin Ranch on a weekly basis for a good part of a year, and occasionally at y. G. C. , our current Juvenile Justice Center here in San Francisco. You still have to sleep in on a concrete slab on a mat. You must walk in line like they do in prison. You must always be accompanied by a counselor, and thats true preparation for the prison pipeline. Thats why weve worked closely with Mental Health experts, regardless of what they may say, and thats why this part is important. And to give you an example of how the system needs to improve, when i was on the board of education, we had to fight with the leadership president yee im sorry. If you cant refrain, were going to have to ask you to leave. Supervisor walton i hope youre not having a nervous breakdown, mr. Brown. So to give you an example of how the system needs to improve, when i was on the board of education, we had to fight with the leadership of j. P. D. To provide access to internet in Juvenile Hall. Im going to repeat that. President yee all right. I gave a warning. Supervisor walton i will keep praying for you always. Take him out. President yee so reverend brown, i would like you to just refrain. Ive asked you twice now, and we have a meeting now, and i would like to have supervisor walton finish his comments. Supervisor . Supervisor walton thank you, president yee, and to give you an example of how the system needs to improve, when i was on the board of education, we had to fight with the leadership of j. P. D. To provide internet in Juvenile Hall. I understand the need for safety, but there are fire walls for this. The lack of Internet Access leads to the fact that we have not been trying to adequately educate our youth and have been focused on punitive aspects of incarceration. We can and will do so much better. All of what ive just explained is how to handle incarceration and how to handle punishment. And i was to reiterate this is not a job creator, and ive always been a job creator. This allows for more row bust planning and for our young people to become successful. Let me quickly disspell some of the myths quickly. We have met with many experts in the field of juvenile justice. We have spoke to all experts and in fact, even the chronicle highlighted the failures of the current juvenile Justice System. The cause and the lack of positive effect for young people and the reduction of crimes committed by young people. Theres a myth that we did not discuss that with the leadership of j. P. D. This is untrue. In fact, after i was elected at the end of last year before taking office, i met with chief nance in december 2018 and told him to his face, we should shutdown Juvenile Hall and find an alternative. This was said at starbucks on 16th and kansas, and the reality is the leadership of j. P. D. Is the reason were here. The lack of innovation focused on rehabilitation is imperative. Furthermore, Log Cabin Ranch was closed last year. Where is the focus of an alternative for young people in its absence. And j. P. D. Waited until we announced we were going to close Juvenile Hall before they took steps to help young people. Thats appalling that our young black and brown people should be locked down from things that will lead to success and change. We are pushing to increase opportunities for engagement with young people in a less institutionalized setting, more conducive to learning how to be productive. Weve also spoken with Mental Health providers, including dr. Koufax, because the majority of young people committing juvenile crimes need Mental Health assessments. This is not a game for us but about the future of our young people here in frisan francisc and we have spoken with all of the experts, not focused on folks spewing hot air without facts. I have personally spent a day in the courtroom and spoken with judges who want us to do a better job. I wish i had time to run around and play make believe, but we have real work to do to improve the lives of our young people here in San Francisco. With that, i also want to bring your attention to some amendments that reflect our commitment to work with city labor and with our colleagues. Id like to bring this to a vote today to make history, but i also have a few amendments to go over. I also want to thank supervisor yee and supervisor mandelman for their support and work in these amendments and help make their work in this ordinance a little bit stronger. So First Amendment is on page 5, lines 7 through 12, and this is about a meet and confer. Prior to the closure of Juvenile Hall, under this section, 119. 3, the department of Human Resources shall provide notice to unions representing affected employees and conduct and conclude any necessary meet and confer under state and local law. Notwithstanding the deadline imposed by this section, the city may close Juvenile Hall only after d. H. R. Submits a written certification to the clerk of the board of supervisors and the mayor that the city has satisfied applicable meet and confer obligations. On page 13, lines 3 and 4, working groups shall develop a plan to transition staff to jobs. Page 14, line 5, add language to request that the director retain subject Matter Experts as needed. Page 14, line 13 to 18, the amendment is that the final plan will be approved by the board of supervisors no later than june 1, 2021. This gives the opportunity for the final plan to be reviewed and voted on. Page 15, line 13, the leets fee money and add funding for communitybased alternatives. And page 16, lines 1 through 5 states that the undertaking is for the general welfare. So i ask for those acceptance to the general ordinance. I have given everyone a copy. I just want to reiterate that the purpose of this is to make sure our young people have an opportunity even in an incustody experience. Im really proud of us that we have worked so hard on an opportunity that is going to influence our young people. President yee supervisor ronen . Supervisor ronen thank you so much, and i want to thank supervisor walton for all his leadership on this legislation. I want to start out with a couple more thank yous because this truly was a Community Labor of love. I want to thank the key organizations who have fought for this and who have worked with my office and supervisor walton and haneys offices to work with various organizations, and many members of the juvenile justice providers association. And i want to give a shout out to a core group of individuals who give an incredible amount of time to making sure this legislation was written the right way, who poured over numerous drafts and gave important insights to our office every step of the way. Jessica, meredith, katey, dan, james, and a huge thank you. I just want to echo supervisor walton to our staffers, carolyn who came first to supervisor campos office with this dream 8 years ago, and finally seeing it true. Thank you, carolyn, and i also want to give a shout out and a thank you to jill and joaquin from the San Francisco chronicle who did an incredible investigative series and background reporting that really backed up what the community had been fighting for for over a decade, to shutdown Juvenile Hall. But what i really want to share with you, today, colleagues, and with the public is a a bunch of points that were written by public defender robert dunlap, because when i read it, i found it to be one of the most powerful reasons why were doing what were doing. Many people throughout this debate has been trying to make a claim that Juvenile Hall is not a prison, its not a jail. It doesnt have a feel of what adults go through when they are in jail, and thats just simply not true. And robert dunlap, who is in Juvenile Hall every single day had the following points to make. One rule is silence while eating. During meal time, the kids sit at tables hudled around their trays, fore bidden to speak to one another. When i asked why, i was told that was the policy. The real reason i suspect is to further the convenience of the guards. Number two, on the topic of food, parents are allowed to bring snacks on saturdays. Nothing healthy or homemade, only soda and prepackaged junk food. Point number three, which brings us to visiting. No grandparents, aunts, uncles, godparents, or ministers of the family unless theyre parents. Many parents are strapped with watching the younger children, thus, the grandparents come. The position of j. P. D. . How do we know theyre the grandparents . 50 minute time slots on saturdays and sundays in the m. P. R. With dozens of other people around, and during the week, you can only have an afternoon pass before dinner, or an evening pass after dinner. A parent cannot visit children two times in one day, and you only get one time of pass. Number five, passes are generally issues in 30day increments, so if your kid if it is is in longer, and you dont notice the expiration date, you can come home from work, feed the kids, and come here, and be turned way. Number six, after visit with the parents, the children are taken to a shower and strip searched by a guard. Often, a guard will be sitting alone watching a Football Game on a sunday with every kid locked up in his room. Number eight, in spite of recent antishackling laws, kids are vastly overrestrained. This in a place where every entrance is locked and controlled with multiple steel doors. This further imprints on the kids the notion they are criminals. As if the whole Juvenile Hall aspect were not enough, complete with sleeping on concrete with mats, and using steel toilets, we recognize this has the reverse impact. Number nine, kids are not allowed to sleep in the dark. A light is kept on, and if the kids put a piece of paper on it in order to darken the room in order to sleep, more room time. Kids are categorized one through four based on time. Transgressions such as having too many books in your room results in a level reduction. Doing something well on the other hand, like getting straight as does not yield promotion. This is a microcosm of the system. People and kids in general respond much better to positive reinforcement. When a juvenile is injured and needs to go to the hospital, the parents are not notified until well after the fact, usually after the child is returned to custody. Children are largely isolated from the outside world. They are not allowed to watch news or read the newspaper, yet they are allowed to watch movies and listen to music. Number 13, because the children are not serving sentences, per se, they have no release date. From daytoday, week to week, they never know what day they will be released from custody, nor do they know what time it is on any given day as there are no clocks in any of the housing units, ostensibly so the kids cannot coordinate an escape plan. This is what the kids that we detain in Juvenile Hall deal with, so no wonder that study after study after study shows that when kids leave Juvenile Hall, they come out worse than when they went in. No wonder that the biggest indicator of whether a kid is going to spend time in prison when he or she is an adult is whether or not he or she spent time in Juvenile Hall when he or she was a kid. We have to change this. We spend 13 million on a jail like any other that is threefourths empty all the time while kids come out worse than when they went in. With close to 300,000 a kid, we could be giving them a market rate apartment in a great neighborhood, and a private school education. President yee excuse me. Go ahead, supervisor ronen. Sheriff, please escort the public thats making the noise out of here. Please escort them out. I wasnt too sure who was making the noise. Supervisor ronen . Supervisor ronen thank you, president yee . We can do better. We can do better by our kids here in San Francisco, and it makes me very proud to be part of a board of supervisors where the vast majority of my colleagues agree, arent afraid to have a vision, and have innovation and think big and bold, that we can serve kids in our cities better, and were not afraid to be the first city in america to do so. President yee okay. Supervisor haney . Supervisor haney thank you, president yee. Thank you, supervisor walton and supervisor ronen for your leadership. I think this is a powerful place to have at least 10 members of the board of supervisors to be prepared to make this statement and this commitment. I want to thank our staff who have worked incredibly hard on this, and the organizations, the young womens freedom center, the staff of Juvenile Hall who have also provided input. You know, for years, the community, and particularly those who have been closest to this system, the people who have been inside of it, the family members, have shared with city hall, their stories, their dreams, and their hopes for a change. Today, we will hopefully take a historic step in acknowledging those experiences and those truths by committing as a city to close down Juvenile Hall. The harsh truth is that the incarceration of children in jaillike environments behind steel doors in concrete rooms does not work. Thats something that i hope we all can agree to. In fact, very often, it makes things much worse. Incarceration adds trauma and pain to the lives of children who have already experienced an unimaginable amount of trauma and pain. In many ways, this was what the system was designed to do. Juvenile hall is rooted in decades old flawed thinking about psychology and criminal justice, about building for punishment, who people we wanted to separate from society because we viewed them as dangerous. The y. J. C. , youth Justice Center was built in a different time and does not reflect the views of San Francisco. We also know this is not the right facility for our needs because it sits today at 25 of capacity with many of those children there on misdemeanors or awaiting trial. It is a facility that overwhelmingly incarcerates black and latino youth. We could make changes around the edges, we could make small changes and small improvements, but if we did that, we would only be delaying the inevitable, and doing too often what we do in government, trying to make something work despite the fact we all know better. I want to be clear that this is not an attack on the staff at y. J. C. Or the organizations who work there. Ive had the opportunity to meet with many of the staff who care deeply about these kids and had the opportunity to work with young people. They will remind us that they did not build this facility. This is not a facility they designed, and in fact, theyre clear that the city built this facility, and for that reason, its our responsibility to deal with it. We must partner with the staff as well as the many organizations, leaders, and mentors that work at the hall and recognize their work, their leadership, and their knowledge as we move forward. Theres still a lot to figure out, and we should be committed to taking those next steps collaboratively. But what we do know is kids need treatment, they need support, they need education, they need Community Based nonincarceration solutions, and they need opportunity, better than what were doing here now. We need to take steps to break the cycle of youth incarceration in our city. It is not something we measure in dollars, it is a commitment we make to all of our residents and especially to our children. Environments matter, facilities matter, and San Francisco value matters, as well. Im proud that our board and our city stand poised to make this commitment today. President yee okay. Supervisor fewer . Supervisor fewer thank you, president yee. I also want to thank my colleague, supervisor walton, for having the vision to bring this forward. But supervisor, i also want to say thank you so much for these amendments. I think these amendments are evidence of your ability to work with other colleagues, also, to work with labor, and also bringing groups together, which is actually something that as we have seen on this board actually has better outcomes. I just want to say these amendments are fabulous, and thank you for bringing these amendments forward. As you know, our work on the school board, we often went out to log cabin, and we also went out to y. G. C. , and i think the opportunity with only 30 young folks at y. G. C. , that we can actually do better, that this is a time for opportunity. Youre absolutely right, that we can absolutely do better. Thank you. President yee okay. Theres a few more on the roster, but im going to make my statement. I just colleagues, i want to let you know all along that i supported Community Based alternatives to detention for our youth. My entire career has been about building and improve a system of care and education for our next generation. Based on the hearings, n newspaper articles on Juvenile Hall, im believing that this facility must be closed for social justice reasons and financial reasons, but there must be alternatives created before closing Juvenile Hall, and that has been my promise to support this. For a facility to be budgeted at over 13 million to serve less than 50 youth is outrageous when the means used are not effective and is not working. Its even more concerning that the budget increases to 20 million when you include the money that the department of Public Health uses from its own budget, not juvenile probations budget, to be spent on these youth. We are spending a large amount on these youth when we could be investing these resources in much more effective strategies that actually stop youth from ending up in the adult criminals Justice System. I will never i will never believe that any human being growing up is dreaming about being behind bars. We are all safer and better as a community when we help our youth pursue lives that cannot cannot involve and do not involve criminal Justice Systems. The initial my initial reservation about voting yes in supporting this legislation, however, was the fact that i did not see a concrete plan of action being mandatory before the deadline to close the Juvenile Hall. I want to ensure that we have no gap between closure of the hall and implementation of the alternatives because i do not want to be in the situation where we are at the jail at 850 bryant, not to put resources into rebuilding the facility, but we are Holding People in the most humane conditions, and we still have no certainty about when were going to be able to get them out. I think we must have a concrete plan of action and in place first with actionable steps that we can strike start taking right away, not two years from now to avoid another situation like the one we have right now at our county jail. With these amendments that require that the concrete action plan be submitted to the board of supervisors at least six months before the deadline to set deadline set to close the Juvenile Hall, in addition to mandatory progress reports every six months, i feel that my concern for the most part has been addressed. But i do not want to say on record right now that i think we should and can take action to ensure that whatever plan is developed, that we start the process, and we really want to start the process of moving resources from the juvenile probation to communitybased Services Alternatives thats already used for detention. So finally, i want to make known my deep respect for the community of advocates, many of them are youth and women of color who have been working for years before this legislation was ever introduced. Thank you for putting this forward and being the change that you have wanted to see for a long time. So again, supervisor walton and cosponsors, in particular, supervisors ronen and haney for pushing us through this legislative process and these amendments that you have spoken about. Supervisor mandelman . Supervisor mandelman thank you, supervisor yee. I want to thank supervisors walton and ronen for bringing these forward and for your bravery in bringing this forward. I think supervisor fewer has been working on this. I remember one of the first meetings of Public Safety and Neighborhood Services committee when i became chair was the closure of Log Cabin Ranch and the implication for youth. I want to say that this ordinance has already generated positive outcomes. I think the mayors Blue Ribbon Commission is a good thing that is looking at the broad range of challenges for these youth. The building is only one of them. For challenged youth, this is only one of the things that we need to address as a city, and i want to thank the mayor for convening that commission. For me, like president yee, the concern had been that i felt like we were moving towards an outcome without clarity on the path, and i do believe this board will need to grapple with the full situations that come afford with the closure of this that come with the closure of this building. Thank you for your modest changes, and with that, im happy to support this. President yee supervisor stefani . Supervisor stefani thank you, supervisor yee. First, i want to thank supervisors walton, ronen, and haney for starting this discussion on juvenile reform. I know this is borne out of wanting better for our youth, and i admire this passion, as i said to you, supervisor walton. I care deeply about this issue, as well, and im pleased to be working on the mayors Justice DivisionBlue Ribbon Panel where we heard from experts and Community Members with experience in the juvenile Justice System. As far as im concerned, ive thought a lot about this. I know were all on the same page when it comes to improving outcomes for our youth, and its great that were challenging and bringing everyone to the table so we can be absolutely sure were making the right choices. I know we all know things need to change and we need to put our youth first. I do have some questions for chief probation officer alan nance, if i may, president yee . President yee you may ask your questions through me. Supervisor stefani thank you. Through you, president yee. President yee chief nance, please identify yourself. He lan nance, chief probation officer for the city of San Francisco. Madam supervisor, there are currently 33 youth in Juvenile Hall. Last year, the average stay in Juvenile Hall was 23 days. Supervisor stefani reading thr through the legislation, i was concerned to read that the majority of youth were not charged with serious offenses. That concerns me. Im wondering if you can comment on that and also what charges result in youth detentions . That data is inaccurate, and in a letter that i penned to the board of supervisors on may 14 of this year, i included a summary of 3 distinct dates, a month apart, looking at the population of young people in our Juvenile Hall, the maximum number of young people on misdemeanor charges on any one of those days was 4 . By and large, the vast majority of young people detained on San Franciscos Juvenile Hall are there on violent felonies, and more often than not, it was a robbery or an aggravated assault. So the rumor that were detaining low risk young people is not accurate. By the way, even when a young people is detained in Juvenile Hall, it is not based solely on that offense, it is based on a multitude of other factors, and it also includes a judicial decision. Supervisor stefani through the chair, im wondering if theres anything that makes San Franciscos youth different from other municipalities. I know there are some worse, i know there are some that are far better. When i first met with you, after becoming a supervisor, i remember beingen kush encourag we had had such a drop in the number of youth in the Juvenile Hall. I wonder if you could talk about that in terms of how that would make San Francisco unique in a way or different from others . Thank you for the question. First and foremost, i think when you look at the staffing of our Juvenile Hall counselors and yes, they are counselors, not guards. The counselors are highly trained, theyre well supervised. Theyre not carrying weapons. If you go to contra costa event, alameda county, a young people might be subject to a counselor using pepper spray. That is not the case at San FranciscoJuvenile Hall. The law requires a minimum of one hour per week for visitation. Most counties ahave limited to that. In San Francisco, families are allowed to visit five days a week. Weve created a merit system in that environment, instead of punishing young people for doing the wrong thing, were incentivizing positive behavior. The agree to which we have Public Services embedded in Juvenile Hall is stronger than most other places in the state. The San FranciscoUnified School District provides a very well and structured academic setting for young people, so our Juvenile Hall is not just a place where young people is in secure custody, it is also a place where they are assessed, where they receive treatment, where they are connected to Community Agencies and where these young people are thriving academically for the period of time that they are there. Supervisor stefani and through the chair, who determines what a suitable juvenile facility is for youth in San Francisco . Who has that decision . The board of state and Community Corrections is the board that has the ability to govern Juvenile Hall, the staffing levels, the training for the staff. All of those requirements are governed by the california state board of government and Community Corrections. Supervisor stefani and through the chair, one of the concerns that i have in coming to this vote and thinking about what happens is what if we come up with something thats not approved. So im wondering if the superior court does not approve the alternative to Juvenile Hall, what is the countys mandate to provide a place of detention . By state law, if the presiding judge of the superior court does not determine that the Juvenile Hall facility is a suitable place to detain young people, they can order the county to place those young people in other Juvenile Halls in other parts of the state. Supervisor stefani and through the chair, you had mentioned reasons why people why youth were detained, and im wondering what other factors influence the judicial decision. I understand its a judicial decision, obviously, to detain a minor. Is that made solely on the basis of the offense, the law thats been violated or is there other factors taken into consideration . So there are certain provisions of state law that require that a youth who is at least 14 years of age and commits a violent offense in this state must be detained until they appear in front of a judge, so that is not optional. That is mandatory, embedded in state law. In addition, we often have young people that have committed Domestic Violence against a parent or sibling. Those are young people who are not immediately going back home based on that offense. And the other challenge that we face in our juvenile Justice System and this is a statewide challenge, that many young people have committed multiple offenses at all hours of the night where there is concern that there simply isnt sufficient guidance, supervision, and support within the family home for that young person to return to their family. Supervisor stefani and through the chair, that brings me to another question about existing Community Service for youth. Do you feel that we definitely need to grow the capacity of what we have in terms of outside c. B. O. S and other things besides detention . Obviously, we have a gap there. Im wondering if you believe we need to grow that capacity . I believe we absolutely need to grow the capacity. We need shelter care for girls, we need facilities that will serve our undocumented youth who dont have a parent or guardian that is available to them. We also need Clinical Services for young people. Im confident that we have sufficient Case Management capacity. In fact, we are probably overresourced with Case Management capacity within our community. We need providers that are going to be able to engage these young people with Clinical Services in order to address Family Therapy issues and other dynamics such as trauma that these young people are experiencing in their communities and in their family homes, and thats where there is a shortage. I would also add that there are a number of young people that are placed outside of the state of california, outside of the county of San Francisco in residential facilities simply because the capacity to serve those young people locally does not exist in San Francisco. Supervisor stefani one last question through the chair. Are there other stakeholders with whom we should consult before passing this legislation . Do you feel there are others that we havent . Absolutely. There are a number of individuals and Community Groups in San Francisco who should be consulted for a decision of this gravity. The African American community at large should be consulted. The naacp has vocalized the absence of conversation with them. The juvenile probation commission, while supervisor walton has appeared before that commission on at least one occasion, there was no prior discussion with that commission in advance of introducing this legislation, nor was there conversation with the juvenile Justice Commission which is a state authorized body that works under the superior court. And obviously in advance of recommending a dismantling of the plan of the juvenile Justice System, we should talk to the judiciary to make sure they are in support and are helping to guide that decision. Supervisor stefani thank you. I think that concludes my questions, and i just wanted to follow up with a few more comments in terms of, obviously, this is a very contentious issue. Its a very emotional issue, and i think we all have more in common on this than we do differences, and i think that the focus for me has always been on improving outcomes for our youth. And i was very encouraged after attending last weeks blue ribbon meeting where so many stakeholders were at the table, and im committed to improving outcomes for youth. I was very encouraged to hear about new york citys progress with their close to home initiative, neighbor progress. They have about 100 youth in detention out of 8. 5 million which would be the equivalent of 9 here in San Francisco, so i think we can definitely do better. I look forward to continuing to engage with the panel and to continue hearing its recommendations. I know that recommendation panels actually work. Even when you have that many people at the table, theres diverse stakeholders at the Blue Ribbon Panel. And just like when we had the panel to save st. Lukes hospital, it was very contentious at the time, but it was even better in the end. I think we need to wait to close Juvenile Hall to have a plan in place if were going to do it by a date certain. But that doesnt mean we cant take action to combat what is happening in Juvenile Hall right now. I went to Juvenile Hall myself to see what it was like and better understand the issue. I think we can do things like not locking doors, to improve youth outcome, and the list that supervisor ronen read concerns me. I think regardless, reviewing that list, sitting down, and having a conversation about how we might do better i think is something we can do right now, something we can do immediately. I think those conversations need to be had, and why arent we looking to make immediate changes within the hall right now . I think thats something that has to be looked at. I know that in the chronicle, they mentioned the missouri model that they had Juvenile Hall more like a dorm than a Detention Center, and i see no reason why we couldnt take immediate steps to take action to turn things around within the hall at this time before we even take action to close it. So for me, i do believe this piece of legislation is well intentioned. I have so much respect for my colleagues because i know that im on the same page in terms of why were doing that, but when you flip to the solution, im not there yet because i really have a hard time closing Juvenile Hall with a date certain without an actionable plan in place, without a plan in place when i know that the state obligates us to have a Detention Center for youth with violent felonies or whatever. So im just not in a place where i can definitively close it on a date certain even with the amendments, which i would support, but at the same time, im not there yet with something this date certain. I am there with you that something needs to be done, changes need to be made, and we can do better. So thank you, supervisor walton, for bringing this to our attention. President yee thank you. Supervisor safai . Supervisor safai thank you, president yee. This causes discomfort. You can feel the jubilation on some peoples part, and you can feel the anxiety on other peoples part. But for me, this is about history. This is about where we look at where were at as a country at this point in time. We incarcerate more people in this country than any other country in the world. We have a culture of incarceration. And the folks that are being incarcerated also happen to be disproportionately African American and latino and pacific islander. That is a fact that is indisputable. And for me, when i see that, and i see the discomfort and disruption that that creates for the families and communities that that is perpetrated upon, im okay with making people uncomfortable. Im okay with the anxiety and the discomfort that it produces. That is in no way meant to disrespect all the hard work and effort that many in this room have put into and have dedicated their life to turning peoples lives around. This is in no way an assault on you, director nance, in my opinion, at least from my perspective. Other people might feel differently. This is in no way meant to disrespect the naacp. I have Great Respect i have Great Respect for the naacp, and i will continue to. I believe that through the leadership of supervisor walton, as well as our mayor, mayor breed. Mayor breed has commissioned a Blue Ribbon Commission. Mayor breed has put forward a very difficult task and charge to that commission. I believe there is going to be significant overlap and meeting of the minds. This proposal talks about a working group, it talks about presenting plans on a sixmonth basis. It has very much in common with the Blue Ribbon Commission. I also want to appreciate, supervisor walton i came to you very early on, asked for a seat specifically on organized labor. I know for organized labor to have a seat at the table. Also for folks in the community, you were making those adjustments. I think those were very important. I think some of the amendments youve made on meet and confer and in terms of having their voice heard, this is not an easy transition, so i appreciate that. I also asked not for a representative from the court, but the superior court judge to have a seat at the table. I think that is very important. And then lastly, that a final report would be presented to this body, and this body would have the authority to approve that report final to any decision that were made. All of those amendments were done in such a way that give me the confidence and as director nance said, ultimately, ultimately if the work we do excuse me, chief nance, if, ultimately, if the work that we do is not accepted by the court, it will be rejected. It will be rejected. And if it is, it will be accepted. I know this process will be open to any and all that want to be a part of it. I know that those who might have felt excluded will have an opportunity this will not happen overnight. Its 2019. 2021 is 2. 5 years from now. The only thing id like to highlight on a part of this, just as a friendly amendment, supervisor walton, with regard to the working group and the final report, onlines 13 through 18, and it says the board may act by resolution, id like to suggest that it read shall act by resolution. Thats the only thing i would add by a friendly amendment. And shaking your head, deputy City Attorney givner . Mr. Givner deputy City Attorney jon givner. A report should not direct a board to take action. The working group is required to submit a to submit a plan to the board. The working group is required to submit a resolution to the board along with that plan which will put the resolution and the plan before board, and the board can decide whether it wants to vote on that resolution and adopt the plan. Supervisor safai so youre saying we cannot change the word . Mr. Givner you can, but i would leave it as may. Supervisor safai thank you. Chief nance, im sorry for saying director. Thank you very much, chair. President yee supervisor safai, are you still supervisor safai i would president yee wanting to make that amendment . Supervisor safai i would want to make that amendment, but if theres other motions, he made his amendment, so president yee well come to that. Just remind me. Supervisor safai okay. Thank you. President yee supervisor walton . Supervisor walton thank you. Theres a thousand things i want to get clear. Ive had conversations with people who are yelling and screaming like babies in the audience. Because i dont agree with you does not mean i did not consult with you. I want to be clear, i do not have to agree with people, and that does not mean that weve not been consulted, but im glad, so gl