Transcripts For SFGTV Government Access Programming 20180222

Members of the public may address remarks as the commission as a whole and not individual commissioners or department personnel. Commissioners are not allowed to enter into debate. Lack of response does not necessarily mean agreement of statements. President cleaveland do i have any Public Comment . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Clerk approval of the minutes and discussion of possible action to approve the Meeting Minutes of january 24, 2018. President cleaveland any Public Comment on the minutes . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Commissioners, whats your pleasure . Do i have a second . Second. President cleaveland all in favor . Aye. Unanimous, thank you. Clerk update on progress of station 49 ambulance deployment facility. Anthony rivera, samuel chui and kathleen oday dpw to make update. President cleaveland good morning chief. Good morning. Assistant deputy chief anthony rivera. We have been working diligently to ensure that this new facility is going to meet the needs and growing needs of our department, so without further adue, i would like to introduce the dpw team, samuel chui and kathleen oday, they are gems that have been really helping us in working diligently. Samuel chui will give the presentation on the new adf. Good morning commissioners and president cleaveland. Im from public works and here with my coworker kathleen oday, were very excited to be here and thank you for inviting us and giving us time to give you an update on the development of the ambulance deployment facility. Here on the front is an artist rendition of the new facility. We have completed 95 construction documents at the end of last year. To give a quick reminder and provide a little context, the premise of the project is to relocate the current functions from 1415 to about one mile northwest to this new site at 2241 gerald avenue. Thats the new address, between the two highways in the southeast part of the city. You can see its on the block here flagged. Its adjacent to fire station 9 and will have access from both streets. This is the site plan, towards the left of the page on this side or the northwest corner of the site youll see the four story ambulance deployment facility building that includes a two level parking garage. On the right is fire station 9 and in between is the ambulance parking yard. Just to walk you through on logistics, ambulances enter through gerald but can exit gerald or mckenna avenue. The project budget is 48. 6 million, roughly divided into the three categories of Construction Cost at 35. 2. Project controls 11. 2 and other costs at 2. 2. We are on schedule to complete the project in august of 2020 the plans are with planning and the review is underway. We expect to complete that process in april of this year so that we can quickly wrap the comments and address the comments in the same month and advertise in april and if goes as planned starting construction of august this year. As part of the plan to help mitigator reduce the schedule duration, were looking at starting demolition of structures as early as may with a separate contract. So, again, construction will likely start in august of this year and were looking at a two year construction duration to completion. Its been an exciting project but not without challenges. We wanted to share a few key challenges and risk on the project. First and foremost is the soil conditions. Were having to mitigate the soils to have a higher volume of hazardous soil offsite to begin construction. And to mitigate the effect of very poor soil structural capacity thats required to construct essential Services Building and three, to mitigate the effect of corrosive soil on site. And were anticipating Sea Level Rise and the site has a very high water table. And of course planning, designing and constructing this building with a narrow street frontage, its not typical. So there are challenges with that. And the site permit review has taken longer than previously planned. We are speaking with our colleagues at d. B. I. And planning on a daily basis to check in to see if there are questions we can help address or clarify to help facilitate the review. With that, well be happy to answer any questions you might have about the project. This by the way is the view when you first enter from gerald and arrive at the ambulance yard, this is the view of the four story facility right behind the fueling station canopy, youll see a canopy attached to the first story of the building, behind that, the warehouse. And a feature of the project is that you could stock four ambulances at the same time. Thank you. President cleaveland thank you. Is there any Public Comment first on the presentation . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Commissioners chief hayeswhite, would you like to add to that . Chief hayeswhite good morning, i would like to echo what was indicated earlier in the opening remarks, we appreciate the partnership with department of public works. We have a number of projects were engaged in, this one in particular with samuel and kathleen, they have been excellent to work with, very responsive to what we feel our needs are related to the facility. As you know were currently making it work out of evans, that was meant to be a temporary site for very dedicated ambulance and ems division. Were looking forward to getting the project right and getting a facility deserving of the hard work of the men and women at the San Francisco Fire Department. Thank you. President cleaveland thank you. Commissioners, mr. Vice president . Vice president nakajo thank you president cleaveland. Thank you. In terms of drawing of the facility, we have seen other renditions early in the design, are there anymore slides that have a little more content in terms of what the facility looks like beyond what you just showed . Maybe not at this point but at some point . Absolutely. So as we develop the design, we could ask the architects to produce other points of the facility and share them with you. Vice president nakajo okay. This is very, very exciting. I always seem to Say Something to the fact that ive been on this commission for a while. What that means, when it comes to different phases of the department, when it comes to our facilities, traditionally you come in here and get familiar with fire stations, so the two bonds and what they provide for our stations are a tremendous important asset to the department and in terms of Something Like a new fire station, at least within the participation of my time, i was able to witness the birth of design brand new fire stations in terms of we call it station four near the ballpark. The airport station two, brand new facility. Its interesting because after a while you begin to understand traditional stations, like station one, used to be off third street, we went through a growing situation when it moved over to the present site. Were going through a renovation or technically brand new station with 5 and 16. So for us to talk about station 49 and what station 49 is supposed to provide for this commission and for this commissioner, its a huge, huge big deal. Because it goes back to the history of the merge, what the Ambulance Services to the department have gone through tremendous amount of growing pains through the years. We have personnel numbers and i know cheethe chiefs are all a p of it. I know the facility should have enough parking for ambulances. You talked about the bay thats going to be able to load up four ambulances at the same time. To the lay people they may not understand that. Are you just filling it up with gas you know, youre stocking supplies so that the crew can just make a quick turn around in the bay and get the heck back out there in service. The thing about the ambulance in station 49, the men and women who serve in that capacity for years have had rigs as facility or hit a Street Corner or youre in and out and 49, it grew from what i used to see as a warehouse to an Ambulance Service to Clothing Department to arson squad. I mean that station at 49 has gone through so much growth. Its a big old building within the neighborhood so this is really important. But my questions come later when we can have some more answers, im sure there will be enough space for ambulances, personnel, what the configuration looks like and turnaround looks like and im assuming scheduling will be a part of it as well at some point in time. Thank you for your cooperation in working with us. This is a huge deal moving into our final home for station 49 personnel that is a house for all of us. Ill stop there. Thank you mr. President. President cleaveland thank you mr. Vice president. Commissioner covington. Commissioner covington thank you mr. President. Thank you mr. Chui, miss o day. Can someone tell me the differences between the current facility and the new one. The top three. How much time do you have . laughter good morning. Chief anthony rivera, i would like to start by saying what Vice President nakajo stated in his statement, the current facility is a warehouse and i actually take my hat off to the members of station 49 because theyre working in a facility, not designed but able to adapt. The new state of the art facility is designed for our 49ers and a medical facility. There are nuances throughout the building. The ability for four ambulances to get fuel at one time, right now we have two and you have to park them just right. Theres a lot of effort that was put in to ensure that this is an efficient flowing facility that has the minimal of down time. I would say we have Multi Purpose rooms now in this facility where we can do inservice training. We have areas where its basically a stand alone and theres not a lot shared with other building. Just in design of the Parking Spaces of ambulances, its going to be easier for the paramedics to be able to access their vehicles. The way we have the staging area to reload the ambulances is key, which kind of drove the design of the exterior of the building. The ambulance crews will be able to pull in after a shift, gas up for the next crew, very efficiently drive a few more feet, leave the ambulance for our store keepers to have them restocked. This is hours and hours of going through what if we did this, what if we did that. I think we did a great job as a team, really proud of it. A lot of input from not only the ems side but we presented this to local 798 and took in all their comments and they were pleased with the outcome of the design, the way its set up, the ver way its set up. Commissioner covington ive been to 49, they have adapted with colorful language in the mix. On the construction side, this will be designed and constructed to meet current seismic codes for an essential Services Building in San Francisco which is high in terms of sustainability and providing a more pleasant work space for not just the paramedics but administrative role as well. Certification process by which buildings with a high level of sustainblely designed principles and strategies and construction approaches will get reviewed, credentials and at the end youll get a plaque, but whats more important, making a difference through construction. Its one of the most wasteful processes out there. So trying to make sure were environmentally responsible and providing a better Work Environment and Living Environment for the occupants. Those are some of the highlights of why the city has decided that all City Projects must meet lead gold. Commissioner covington i think thats very important. So you said the project is on time. Is it on budget . So thats a very good question. The original budget or, allocat for the project was 43. 5 million. And were at 48. 6. This is within the same bond component of the phs bond, the Public Health and safety bond. And the top three reasons for this increase was one, due to an unprecedented unanticipated bidding market we are seeing across all projects and especially on the specialty subtrades and having to mitigate the soils and site conditions at this particular location was extremely difficult. Having to now design essential service was enhanced level of structural demand. We are we have managed to keep the increase to 5 million but be able to provide the same program we promised the voters. Commissioner covington where are you getting the over the 5 million from . Theres not a shovel in the ground yet. As typical with Design Projects we check in with cost stim estimators. Because of the market, we have two estimators on board and make sure the data points are within reason, that were not being too ambitious and being real about what its going to take to construct the facility in this very heated market. To answer, thats where were estimating the overage increase. I think the answer to the question, were obtaining the 5 million from the current fire station fund. But at the end of the project, whatever funding is left over or that we get back will go into our neighborhood fire station bond fund. Commissioner covington okay. I wondered how it related to the bond. I would like to ask our financial director if he has anything to add regarding the funding for this project . And the sources there of. Everyone is very excited about the project. This has been a long time coming, so good morning commissioners. Finance and planning, not too much to add, were working closely with dpw on both sides. The chief mentioned the potential funding of projects to cover the 5 million and working to identify savings elsewhere throughout the bond program to see if for chance the funds are used for the ambulance facility, we could recoup the projects in other fashion. Some has come through bond savings in other programs. Its not directly transferrable across bond programs but overall scope of projects we dont anticipate it being an issue going forward. Commissioner covington thank you. Well, i am so looking forward to the ribbon cutting. Thank you mr. President. I dont have any other questions at this time. President cleaveland thank you. Mr. Vice president , you have an additional comment. Vice president nakajo an additional question. You were saying that the completion is projected in two years and demolition is scheduled to occur in may. So the demolition in may is already budgeted and ready to go . It is budgeted, we are currently working with our public works unit on site abatement and Remediation Group to get pricing on the early scope. Our plan, if we can take the scope outside of the Main Construction contract, it would save money and time. And so, to answer your question, yes, were planning to start abatement and demolition of may of this year. Vice president nakajo chief, anything with that . The site itself has been challenging, we found out through the environmental report theres a lot of hazardous soil issues and two structures on the area, we have the Hazardous Materials report, very high levels of asbestos and we have consulted with our inhouse tony boom. So its going to be a bit of a challenge and i met with the members of station 9 yesterday but well remove the two buildings and get rid of the hazard and prepare for construction as samuel state stated in may. I think its exactly what commissioner covington stated, were very excited and moving forward and its a new phase for the Fire Department and ems facility. Vice president nakajo i know you were saying about three years from now terms of the whole process, 2020 summer of 2020 completed. Summer of 2020. Summer of love. Vice president nakajo i only say that, to the right and left, the three commissioners will be here in the next phase, two of us old timers on the left side god willing. Vice president nakajo serving our term in january of 2020 and well see how the wind blows at that particular time. It would be nice laughter if we are present in the completion of this Historical Building or well have to use our influence and be invited as guests. Thank you for that and the presentation. Im assuming well have a ceremony when were ready to put the shovels in the dirt . I like putting my name on the beam. Thank you. Thank you mr. President. President cleaveland thank you mr. Vice president. Commissioner hardeman. Commissioner hardeman i dont really have many comments, through your presentation, this is a great morale booster for all the folks who work at 49. Nice to look forward to this over the years for people who have to work out of there. Is there anything chief, youre the head honcho over there when this opens up, probably at that time youll probably still be in charge, you never know. Like commissioner nakajo says, the way the tides blow and with all the elections and everything who knows. But, it would be a great thing to look forward to. And i agree with Vice President nakajo, signing the beam would be a fun thing to do. Anything that you as the person thats going to be the grand marshal of the event maybe, tell us what you think about this . Any particular like we were all saying, were very excited about this. As far as we understand it, its the only deployment facility inside a Fire Department in the state of california. Most other Fire Departments have individual fire stations, similar to what we had many years ago. Were the only one thats going to have a facility designed and built specifically for Rapid Deployment and turn around of ambulances. Definitely to the chief and commission, thank you for that. Its under your guidance we have gotten this far and look forward to the completion of the project. Dpw is doing a fantastic job, totally responsive to every request we have to make the Building Work for us and couldnt do it without the chief. One of the questions you had, what is different between station 49, the old and new one, it is designed for rapid turnaround of the vehicles. Stocking, the supply area is going to be completely different. The Supervisors Office will have views of the yard and ambulances while restocking to figure out who is next to go out, how to move the units along much faster. The repair facilities for the bio med to repair the defibrillators, very important pieces of equipment on the ambulances, the area is being designed for repair of the devices. Were not trying to fit square pegs in round holes. Its going to be a fantastic building and fantastic for our membership and it has room to grow in it and it will be designed to have plenty of room for everybody. Commissioner hardeman thank you for your comments. President cleaveland thank you commissioner hardeman and thank you for the report. Were all excited to see new station 49. Its been a long time coming. I would like to remember and thank former mayor ed lee who put this in the Health Departments bond a few years ago. Thats why we have the money to build the new facility. Hats off to former mayor ed lee. I had a question of questions on technical issues, you cant use tilt up, is that right . It would not be seismic or is that right . For this building we are not using tilt up. Ive seen it still used for Non Essential Service buildings around president cleaveland it can be seismically safe or not . Im just asking. It can be. It can be done. President cleaveland but not here. No. President cleaveland why not have a general contractor hired at the beginning and have them get the excavation and demolition and all that through subcontractors . I think that decision is driven by time. We would not be able to bid out for a contractor until we have the permits reviews complete and drawings complete. We would like to advertise with the complete set of designs. But ahead of that, we president cleaveland you want to get the demo out. Exactly. And this allows not to have a mock up on the demolition. President cleaveland do you have to look at the soils before demo . In this case, abatement of the buildings being demolished, i dont think the first phase of demo is just going to be the abatement and demmiolition of existing buildings. And then when the larger construction project starts and they start to do excavation, theyll do testing of the soil and determine whether we can bury it underneath our paving in the lot which we hope to do a lot of and some may have to be president cleaveland why is the soil so contaminated . Its the area of fill in the city. That whole area of our city, people have dumped things over the years. Thats part of the problem. People buried things. People used to throw their garbage and bury it. President cleaveland you might discover something historical . laughter yeah. President cleaveland hope not. Are you doing lead silver or gold . Its designed for lead gold. President cleaveland thank you and thank you for the presentation. Madam secretary, would you call the next item . Clerk overview of the Early Warning system, presentation from the department of Emergency Management Michael Dayton on the Current System and future Warning Systems. President cleaveland welcome mr. Dayton. Good morning president cleaveland, good to see you, good morning commissioners and chief. Its a pleasure to be here and look forward to reporting on the alert system. I would like to introduce anna who oversees the program and implements policies and procedures well talk about today. President cleaveland welcome. Thank you. What i thought wed do today is an overview of the alert and warning procedures and policies we have in San Francisco and i would like to talk about three recent incidents because i think if we talk through recent incidents youll get a better idea of our policies and protocols and actions and highlight some of our challenges that we have when we do share information about if were undercommunicating or overcommunicating or using the right system. First, a quick overview of what systems we have in place in San Francisco. Our primary one is alert sf. The biggest thing i think to know about alert sf,its completely opted in. This relies upon the Preparedness Campaign and us going out to the public and encouraging them to sign up. So its very simple to do. This is probably the biggest thing you can do to help us to make sure people are aware of incidents in their neighborhoods. Its very simple to do. You just text 888777 and then in the body of that text you put in alert sf one word and well have the graphic up at the end of the presentation. But just to give you an idea of the reach in San Francisco, we have about 90,000 users. So this is what our Duty Officers used to communicate with the public and this isnt something that our Duty Officers do just on their own accord, this is usually the Fire Department is on the scene or theyre responding to a call after dispatch alerts them to a fire and theres evacuation or avoid the area. So they get the information from the commander. Were in a supporting role and take the lead from commanders in the field. And then we have an alert, a notification system that we use internally. So any time theres an event, were communicating with other offices, the Mayors Office and board of supervisors and its basically our mechanism to communicate internally. And then we have the outdoor public Warning System i think everybody is familiar with, tuesday afternoons at noon we test regularly. We have about 120 sirens across the city, multiple languages programmed into the sirens, we can operate an individual, trigger a group of sirens and then i think you all know the history, it was put in place in 1942 during world war ii. In 2005 we used Homeland Security grants to revamp the system to have a robust process of imminent threats alerting. And we use social media. Media follows us, traditional media follows on twitter. If we put out something on social media and twitter, its picked up by traditional media and amplified. We use facebook, we have about 4,000 followers, not as big of a presence and use next door. I dont know if youre familiar, there are 230,000 users in San Francisco. Thats been a very a good way to enhance communications to neighborhoods if there is an event. And then we can also use the integrative public alert and Warning System. This is managed by the federal government. This consists of the wireless Emergency Alerts, it got a lot of attention after the incident in hawaii and has the Emergency Alert system we partner with radio and tv to put out Emergency Alerts over radio and tv. Let me talk a little bit about three incidents that may give you an idea of how the alerts are actually triggered and the process behind them. Going back to february 6th, a High Pressure gas leak break due to construction. It was a tuesday afternoon about 3 30, dispatch gets notified of the report of the gas line break, comes in, theres about 10 buildings that are ultimately evacuated as determined by the Fire Department on scene. The Fire Department requests our assistance for Public Information officers. We have a very Good Partnership with the Fire Department. Rpo gets dispatched out. Our duty officer has got a system in place that he or she could draw around the impacted areas to send out and avoid the area. Shelter in place order very quickly to the people. Again, let me go back to, that is alert sf. If you have opted in, youre going to get the alerts. If you havent opted in, youre not. Thats our reporting mechanism and we send it out on twitter and next door. Thats the big contrast to the wireless Emergency Alerts where we target an area of the city and say okay, regardless if you have opted in or not, were going to alert you via your cell phone whether you have registered or not. But some of the other things during that incident, our duty officer and manager on call, we have four managers on call, im one of them that rotate every two weeks. We start thinking okay, if the initial reports from pg and e is were going to repair the gas line and it could take an hour or five hours. Thats a difference if we evacuated 10 buildings. Do we need shelter, we que up american red cross, Salvation Army and i think as you look ahead, i got the idea that you wanted us to talk a little bit about some of the challenges. I mean getting more detailed information about what is in the buildings, who lives there, is there vulnerable populations or anybody children or seniors or has access and functional needs. Those are all areas of improvement for us. I think we have a Robust Program now, but im looking forward to taking it further in the future. The second incident is the magnitude initially it was a magnitude 8. 0 earthquake off the coast of alaska. We got notification about 1 30 a. M. Back on january 23rdrd. So i mean we follow tsunami threats and earthquake, if its a major earthquake like that and is in a zone off the coast of alaska or washington oregon, those are capable of triggering a tsunami. We didnt know it was 70 miles off so it didnt trigger a tsunami. But the notifications we rely on or the National Tsunami Warning Center. Their initial warning to us was california is under a tsunami watch. So what that means is a watch is an earthquake has occurred that is capable of generating a tsunami. Our initial reports were the first waves could get to San Francisco at 6 20 or 6 40. So during those the course of the next couple of hours, obviously were in the position of what do we tell the public, we still dont know if its going to materialize into a tsunami. The actions were based on information we had at the time. We put out an alert sf to the population along the coast that could be inundated in the worst Case Scenario with the message of Pay Attention and stay tuned. We put out on twitter accounts and we had media there early in the morning. It was probably three hours before any waves would have happened. But then the National Tsunami Warning Center and the sensors in the ocean came in, they didnt notice a rise in sea level that would significant an actual tsunami. At about 4 12, two and a half hours later, the watch was cancelled. So we racheted back down the Public Information and just to give you challenges on that, we got every where on the scale of why on earth did you send out alert sf and wake us up, to why didnt you alert us via cell phone, the outdoor sirens to wake us up. I think we made the right decision, if we woke everybody up at 3 00 in the morning, we may not be presenting on this today. Youre always looking at the balance of information and given that we had several hours of warning if it did materialize, im confident we made the right call on that. The last scenario i would like to go through or just incident, was the 4. 4 earthquake in the east bay we had. Which was about 10 miles away southeast of burkely. So we sent out a public alert confirming and i think there was initial conversation about should we put out an alert, its 2 40 in the morning. But for us, we want to confirm to the public that yes, an earthquake has occurred, the shaking you felt was a seismic event, please dont call 911. Sure enough a spike in calls to 911, was that an earthquake we felt. Thats something we want people to avoid doing. And we triggered our mechanism with the manager on call program to do an inventory of damage assessments to city infrastructure. Fortunately it was lowlevel magnitude earthquake but for us, two things i think underscored, one, the need for an earthquake Early Warning system that is embedded in Critical Infrastructure sites like fire stations and schools and given this particular incident 10 miles away, we only got one second of warning. Theres potential to get greater number of seconds if the epicenter is further away in the east bay or further south and still have violent shaking here. Its one of the areas our executive director is very passionate about and engaged and pointed to the state california Advisory Board for earthquake Early Warning in california and sits on the usds National Panel for how to implement the Warning Center along the west koeblcoas. We have applied for a Mitigation Grant program and that would hopefully, you know, allow the Fire Department, if they choose to do so or if we can get the technology in place, to open up the Fire Department doors as soon as you have a severe enough magnitude earthquake. The reason thats important, you dont want the doors to be a jar after the earthquake, you want assets to be able to get out of the station and respond to the fires we expect after a big earthquake and we could do programs at schools to allow them to drop cover and hold when they get the alert of an earthquake. So those are some of the things that were looking forward to or working with. I would be delighted to answer questions and president cleaveland, again, thank you for always being engaged. I appreciate it. President cleaveland thank you mr. Dayton. I appreciate the report. Anna, did you have anything you wanted to add before Public Comment . Im fine. Unless you have questions. President cleaveland Public Comment . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Commissioner veronese. Commissioner veronese welcome mr. Dayton. Would you consider the system we have as state of the art here in San Francisco . I would. Commissioner veronese you would. And when they had the earthquake in mexico, they have an Early Warning system that gave them 1015 seconds of warning. Why do we not have that system . I think i guess fortunately for mexico, their epicenters to mexico city, they have a significant distance, they can have a longer warning, but unfortunately for where were located, the proximity is so close to us, it will be hard if theres an epicenter close by to want to eliminate the blind zone and to get the critical seconds that matter. Its really the factor of the distance of the epicenter. Commissioner veronese so its not mexico having technology that we dont have . Correct. Commissioner veronese so the placement renders the technology useless. Correct. Commissioner veronese the night that the tsunami warning came in, if theres going to be an emergency like that, i didnt get the text until i woke up, i would be under water by that point but i set my phone not to receive texts before 7 00 a. M. Or id be divorced. The reason i ask the question, if there had been a tsunami, if it were more serious and you had seen the raise in water levels, would there have been a different alert you would have done that would have gotten me out of bed that night . We definitely if its imminent, we would have used wireless Emergency Alerts along the coast. If there was threat of imminent threat we would use outdoor sirens and pull all the stops. Commissioner veronese my confusion as a consumer of alert sf, when i saw that i thought okay, theres a sue tsunami coming. That was my impression, but at that point it was too late because it was after 6 20. But it wasnt clear to me i didnt receive a followup saying there is no stsunami and it wasnt clear when i received the text, what i was supposed to do. If it had been real, would i have received a follow up text as to what im supposed to do. We as a Fire Department, were the ones out there in the streets trying to clean up the mess of whats happened, right . And i say that in the sense that people like me, regular people who are receiving the Text Messages are wondering okay, tsunami is coming, what am i supposed to do. Do these alerts tell you as a consumer what to do . Do they say for example go to high ground or is it just theres a tsunami coming . They are more detailed, i think were advising some of the language to make it clear, be prepared for the potential and really underscore the potential if it is a watch. We did get a lot of feedback like hey, we really thought this was going to happen. I appreciate that feedback and also the feedback that hey, it should be more specific, okay, what do what does that mean for me where i live in the city. We do have precrafted messaging if it reached the level of warning that led to imminent evacuation, we would have used multiple methods of alerts, including the amber alert that would have gone over opting out of text. We would have relied on that. We know the evacuation zones. I dont know if you know youre in the tsunami zone or not. Commissioner veronese i am. Okay. So theres extremely comprehensive policies and protocols we have built out with our tsunami. Commissioner veronese on the messaging side, we know we have all these other ways to raise the alert and you would have gotten extensive other messaging. I got one text not knowing that the other alerts would have come, the message i got tsunami expected to hit San Francisco at 6 20 and thats all i got. Im thinking okay, its 7 30, the coast is clear but i look over my wife and think if i had gotten it through the night and not slept through it, what would i have done. There was no followup message saying we expect it to come at 6 20 but were watching it closely and well text you again so we know were going to sit tight and wait for you guys to tell us what to do knowing there were other systems. I felt unprepared and if it were real, i would have been dead at that point. Ill check. I know we sent a followup alert sf once the watch was cancelled. I mean, we were very cognizant of that and probably woken up people at 3 30 in the morning and we want to reassure people that the threat is no long there. So ill follow up to see why you didnt receive it. Commissioner veronese im not sure people would be bothered if you sent out the amber alert one as long as they knew that were watching this and will give you further information opposed to this is going to hit at 6 20. Our goal is to empower people, not incite panic or sense of what do i do now . The communication is alert sf and the others highlighted. Commissioner veronese being in San Francisco we know were going to get an alert at some point. Maybe you do have a personal plan. I believe you do. Lets say its a tsunami, the alerts are hey, go to higher ground, these are areas with higher ground, is there an instructional phase 2 the alerts such as we the citizens can be reassured that were going to get good information from the city at the right time . I hear the alerts on tuesdays. I just wonder when this alert, when and if this thing is going to be real, is it going to be useful to me . I hope so. Thats our aim, to be useful and actionable and will have the direction that youre getting at. Commissioner veronese can you walk me through what the alert would be if there were a tsunami . Yes. We would do the traditional alert sf and all the other ones, we would do the amber alert wirelessly to your cell phone and coordinating with police and Fire Department and those areas. And we would use the outdoor public sirens. It would be a tailoredspecific message for the areas we expect it and would add get to shelter locations. Commissioner veronese you have the messages preplanned. Theyre loaded in the system. Commissioner veronese is there a reason why its not part of your presentation. I would interested in seeing what absolutely. Commissioner veronese what the city would tell me to do. And it would be nice to train the public on it so its not a surprise the first time it happens. You have the Early Warning system happening every tuesday, it would be nice to put a message out there, if this was a real emergency, this is what the city would be for example, in an earthquake. This is what we would tell you to do, or a tsunami. Otherwise its information youre getting in the middle of the night, if it happens in the middle of the night and youre really not prepared for it. And having 800,000 people not prepared for an emergency is avoidable. Definitely. We have tsunami preparedness month and walk coming up in march that we would love your participation. Commissioner veronese tsunami walk. Exciting. Anthony rivera operations, we knew we had time when we were first alerted, we did notify the assistant chiefs. We have our plan in place. To their defense, they did send out a follow up at 4 39, we did get it. Its similar to what fire contained or fire under control. Thats basically what they do when they send out the message, its mitigated. In this case we had a lot of time. Obviously the earthquake was far away. If there was something that gave us indication it was going to come to our area, we would have started deploying assets and helped with going door to door with the cops and doing as much as we could and mobilize as many boats as we could for a safe area. We have a plan in place. But they did their job that night and they do do a good job and thank you. Commissioner veronese im not saying you didnt do your job. Im saying as a member of the public, i should know what the plan of action is when theres an earthquake or tsunami. Maybe because im not a part of tsunami month in the past, i dont think as a member of the city this is something i should opt in on. Everybody should have this information because when it hits, it affects everybody. If theres a way to force this information on to people, because it certainly helps the Fire Department and you guys in the police department, everybody do their jobs easier when these things hit and its a more coordinated effort with the city, you guys know what youre doing, but we dont. So it would be great to see i know you have a plan and youre doing your job, im not here accusing you of not doing your job. I think the public is ignorant in a lot of ways and we could do a better job forcing the information on to them so they have it and not as confused like i was when the tsunami warning happened. Thats just my 0. 02 on it. Thank you for the presentation. I appreciate it. Thank you. President cleaveland thank you commissioner veronese. Vice president nakajo. Vice president nakajo thank you mr. President. Thank you mr. Dayton. I know department of Emergency Management alerts and warnings, i know that we primarily in terms of the examples given, the traditionals earthquake, tsunami, in terms of generic questions and the San Francisco app, does it cost you anything . please stand by for me it becomes fire but thats our jurisdiction. I know we have a system that if theres a