Are just that, a part of the system. This is just a quick snapshot of homelessness in the city and how it is directed. Primarily in districts six, ten and nine. And on the next slide you see this is the distribution of housing shelters, nav centers and all Homeless Services in the city, again concentrated primary in districts six, nine and ten based on the where the populations are. Then theres housing spread throughout the city. In some cases just one or two facilities there. Im going to skip over slides. This isnt a presentation about our strategic framework. But there are many components to it. Maybe a couple i should highlight. One being we talk about problem solving, which is because we have so many people coming into the system every year, we need to find ways to divert them out of the system as quickly as possible. And problem solving is things like eviction prevention, flexible grants. Just the other day we helped a family who was about to become homeless because the father was driving for a Ridesharing Company and he needed the side view mirror fixed so he could get back to work. 300 bucks and we prevented them from becoming homeless. To make sure before people get into the system they are being offered problem solving. And even though we have 74 hundred units of Supportive Housing, only 800 units become available. We have this new Housing Program to help residents move out into the private market with section eight vouchers or housing choice vouchers. Next year instead of having 800 units of housing turn over, we will have a thousand units become available, which will make a significant difference. And you spoke about data. On the next slide here, we are using data the data we have as well as we possibly can and are modeling for how are we going to achieve specific goals we have. And how are we going to reduce chronic momlessness by 50 . We have a fairly robust data model that weve developed that shows how housing replacementses we need to make and how many people we need to prevent from becoming chronically homeless versus the new flow. I think we are moving in that direction and we have special teams specific goals for ourselves around family youth and adult homelessness. Those are the standards by which we need to judge the efficacy of our system. And this is a visualization of what our new system looks like. You will see theres a lot of components to it. And temporary shelter is just one part of it. Den, temporary shelter only solves peoples problems and nav centers and the like on a temporary basis. Lets talk about the inventory. People send to focus on nav centers. But theres 2,300 shelter beds in our system. And they range from Emergency Shelters where you can stay one night and the others where you can stay longer. Again, we try to measure our success based on how our system is doing. Not how one particular program is doing. The program on the temporary shelter side is much bigger than nav centers. I think Everybody Knows at this point what nav centers are. I like to refer to them as shelters as they should be. There are essentially shelters but there are some unique features that dont exist in other shelters. They allow people to bring in pets, partners and their possessions. The services on site are more robust and theres deeper partnerships with h. S. A. And the department of health. It is a much Higher Service enrich environment than you will see in a shelter. Their open 24 7 so people can go. They allow people who are working or for whatever reason just want to step out to do so and not have to sort of come in and be governed by rules that some of our larger shelters have. I think its a bet every way to provide shelter and it is more attractive to people on the streets who have been in the shelter system and feel they didnt work for me. Im not comfortable being with 300 other people. That environment doesnt work for whatever reason. So, when were outreaching and offering People Places to go, they are much more attractive to individuals who maybe have had p. T. S. D. Or have been in jail and dont do well in these large settings. They are also more expensive to operate. Shelters ranges from 40 to 60 a night. Nav centers range from like 90 to 95 night. They are smaller and they have more services. A couple of things important to clear up about nav centers, theres misinformation swirling around about how long you can stay, how they work. They are really very flexible shelters we use in a environment of ways. We have nav center beds participating for one night. We have a few of those beds available. We see about five 17 people a week is our goal. We will see a couple of beds every night for folks getting ready to reunify with a family member. We have emergency beds, about a dozen, that are only sevenday stays and used for emergencies. If we get a call in the middle of the night, somebody on the street really suffering or the paramedics pick somebody up, they can call to see if there is a bed available. We dont have that flexibility in most of our shelter systems. The option are we take people to the Sobering Center and now weve the nav center beds. And we have time limited beds which people can stay in for 60 days. However, if they are working on housing or they are trying to get shelter or theres a clear path forward for them, we will extend the stay to help facilitate them getting the job or shelter bed or getting the housing. But in many cases, not everybody is using those beds for that purpose. And because we have so many people who need access to shelter and because we dont have permanent Supportive Housing for everybody, letting all those beds with time unlimited wouldnt make very much sense. The places who do that like new york city, for example, end up with 60,000 people in their shelter system with very Little Movement out of the shelter system because the investments havent been made in housing. So, we dont let people stay indefinitely. We have pathway to housing beds. We have about about 110. So, almost half of the nav centers beds are called pathway to housing beds i thought the previous slide said 352 . Yes. A little over a third. Sorry supervisors. Im probably doing the math wrong. About 150 roughly are pathway to housing beds and those are for individuals who are long term homeless who have some form of disability who will be prioritized into our housing. We just dont have housing for everybody. We prioritize the housing for that population. When we identify those individuals either on the streets or in a nav center, we will put them in that bed and stay there until they get housing. But having all these beds available until they get housing when theres not enough housing doesnt make sense because they will end up living there permanently in the nav centers. So, you are saying those 150 beds are 60day stays that can be extended . Those are 60day beds but if youre working towards housing yep. Or you have made a shelter reservation and you are going to go into a 90day shelter or moving into transitional housing and we have gotten you a slot in a Substance Abuse treatment program. We are not going to interrupt the path and say your 60 days is up. Go back out on the street for a week and then you can go into the shelter. That makes zero sense to do that. But we have, frankly, folks who are not on that pathway. And when their 60 days are up, they have to leave. What im hearing when i talk to someone who works at a Needle Exchange program and provides shelter to homeless folks, it is somewhat traumatizing when people are taken out of encampments where they have formed community. But that is ameliorated when you are taking folks and providing a safe place where they can get services. But 60 days later, if they dont get a path and theyre suddenly back on the street, their community is gone. Their whole way of being organized on the street is disrupted. And youve like traumatized them twice because now they are dumped back on the streets. So, that amplifies whatever mental or Behavioral Health or Substance Abuse issues they had before they were connected with the system. You have actually exacerbated the situation and those circumstances. You put people back on the street without their community, without their support and made them more vulnerable and more traumatized. I think it is a cycle that ends up with more negative consequences. If we get someone off the streets why we cant keep them off the streets . Hopefully the numbers i shared with you prior explain the answer to that question. We have 21,000 people experiencing homelessness in the city on any given year. Only have the resources to help about 2,000 people exit homelessness. If we allowed everybody to stay in our temporary shelters permanently, we would end up a street homeless problem the city has not seen since the 90s. Very large encampment in front of city hall. This is a heartbreak and difficult decision we have to make because we are having to ration resources where we dont have enough of. I would argue that somebody who has been homeless in San Francisco for ten years or longer, who grew up in San Francisco perhaps and who has a Severe Mental Health issue and is on our streets needs to get prioritized for housing versus somebody who maybe shows up two weeks ago and sets up in a tent and we end up responding to a neighbors complaint because that person is unhoused. We put them in a nav center and that person because they happen to have triggered a complaint and a response they end up getting permanent Supportive Housing when we have so many people on the streets suffering. These arent easy decisions to make. But folks who have been so, they are just not easy decisions to make. But weve got a system that is based on successes that we have seen in other communities, including houston which saw a 75 reduction in homelessness in about ten years. Using coordinated entry and using data and making decisions on how to effectively ration what you have. Not a perfect solution by any stretch of the imagination. And difficult decisions have to be made. Thats the reason why. The numbers just are what they are. I would also argue that whereas i have seen encampments where there is a sense of community and where people have come together to really create to care for one another. The vast majority of them are not that. They are very unsafe and very unhealthy. Theres violence. The police have indicated to me that they estimate that four out of five of the women in the encampments have been subject to violence against them and that theyre not in good places. And that using nav centers as a tool to redirect folks to more healthy environments has been a successful one. It is really a balancing act between how do you deal with a limited amount of resources, how do we address concerns that citizens have about large encampments in their neighborhoods versus and then the other thing that i will say to answer your question, supervisor, is that theres a ton of data that shows when people come indoors even if it is for 30 days, their cortisone levels drop, they gain weight and if they have serious mental illness, their thinking becomes more organized. Where i dont disagree in some cases this hasnt been a positive experience and they lost something, i would argue that in the vast majority of cases, people and theres lots of data to back this up, medically shows it is good for people to get a break from the streets and help them lead towards more maybe to resolve their homelessness on their own. So, you put a woman back on the street who four out of five have been sexually assaulted to allow them to be revictimized. And the person who came and set up a tent on the sidewalk might be a queer kid, trans kid whose life is in danger i dont get the sense that some humans are better than others. Half the young people on our treats are lgbqt it is just a concern. I would also say theres 21,000 people coming in the streets every year. About 40 of them will be women. So, yes, we may end up having a person end up bag on the streets again. Back out on the streets but theres somebody behind them able to use the bed and maybe get reconnected to a family member. Theres no easy solutions. I think its just important to remember that its not just about the person who is right in front of you. But its about looking at the system and using the resources we have to make wise decisions. As were getting more organized in how we use the resources, we have an Assessment Tool that factors in three things. Eleventh of homelessness, disability as well as like mshlg situations that people emergency situations that are people are in. If it is Domestic Violence or you just got out of the hospital and you have been discharged out on to the streets. It is not as straightforward as the length of homelessness. Theres multiple factors we use to determine and unfortunately to ration the services we have to help as many people as we possibly can. Right now, each Navigation Center bed can serve four people a year roughly. If we followed a policy in which youre going to stay here until you get housed, each Navigation Center would probably serve one person for potentially 18 months or longer. It is again a hard decision. Thats why we have multiple types of services. Again going back to the slide i showed before. Some beds are for one night and some are for 18 months. And in the pathway to housing beds they are unlimited until you get housing. We have a wide range of different types including the youth. It is a very big system with a lot of moving parts to it. Vice chair ronen i would love to chime in here. I couldnt agree more with my colleague, jeff sheehy. And this is something that you and i have been arguing about for quite some time, jeff. Im actually looking into legislating around this point because i dont think it is an either or proposition. I think we have to start being honest about what we need to solve our street homelessness crisis in this city. If we just keep sort of working around the edges and adding a couple of beds here and there and having individual supervisors fight to get a Navigation Center in her district and solve the problem in her neighborhood only, we are going to continue to have san francis franciscoians get fed up. Before mayor lee passed away, he made a pledge to add a thousand new beds to the system. Is that what is in your budget we need to see that kind of investment from the mayors office. I see jim in the crowd. I have talked to the chamber of commissioners and the golden gate restoration. They want to help but they want to see a dpifrns in the street. If difference in the street. If we are just taking people off the street for 60 days and they are traumatized you are absolutely right and youre absolutely right. But many people in the Mission District that didnt want to go to the Navigation Center, one of the reasons they said they didnt want to go is they said whats the point . Im going to be out in 60 days. They are resistant to use the services and they become distrustful of government that we are going to be able to help. We cant throw up our hands and say we dont have enough resources or beds. We need to talk about what we need to actually make a difference in this raging crisis on our streets. And then work with our partners both in and out of government to actually get there. But every time we go to the voters and we ask them for more money for Supportive Housing for Affordable Housing and for homelessness, they are like every ballot we vote yes and we put more money in and things get worse, not better. We have to start showing the voters that were taking our tax dollars and were making a visible difference on our streets and in peoples lives. That is not what is happening today. I get emails even though we have done amazing work in the mission and we have reduced tents from 264 to 60 today, i get dozens of emails people saying you cleared the encampment for a week and there it is again. I understand it will never be perfect. Thats not what were asking for. But what were asking for is a real vision about what will make a difference in the street, a plan to get there. A dollar amount that we need to solve it. And then someone leading the charge to get us there. And everything i have heard up to now is just its window dressing. It is not solving the frontal problem. Every time we are losing the faith of the people in our government. Its just not right. And we are traumatizing homeless people. I couldnt say it better than you supervisor sheehy. We are we on the thousand beds . And how are we going to make a difference in the streets . I dont disagree with you about the fact voters are frustrated and asking for more money is at times challenging when people dont see the problem getting better. But i dont know how, supervisor, other than to lay out the facts and explain what were trying to do and explain what were trying to do is developed by a lot of people who have worked on this issue both in San Francisco and nationally. Just talk about the realities of what we are facing on our streets with an in flow of 8,000 newly homelessness. For us to be able to solve homelessness would require us to built 3,000 unit as year nonstop for seven years in a row. We could get everybody off the streets and then the turnover in those units would be enough that we would be able to absorb in flow into the system. Assuming in flow doesnt increase. That would cost approximately ten builds and would take individual multiple family sites and cost 500 million a year to operate. And in the meantime we are in the middle of a crisis. I dont see that were going to be building 3,000 units of perform innocent supportive permanent Supportive Housing. We have to use what we have as effectively as we and develop a system that makes sense. That is what were trying to do. Im sorry we havent been able to maybe explain it as well as we should or help folks understand it. The fact of the matter is with the numbers we are dealing with, we have to find other solutions. One solution is problem solving that i believe i spoke about earlier. Which is how do you get people asking everybody the question, where was the last place that you slept safely and how can we get you back there . Homeward bounds, i have a stack of letters of people from all over the country saying thank you for reunifying me with my family in kentucky, or north carolina. We heard from a former homeward bound client who is going to yale saying we saved his life getting him off the streets. We need to do more of those kinds of things. And then the other situation is if we just build shelters and we just invest our money in shelters, people are going to get stuck in the shelters and we are going to end up spending a lot more money for the same number if not more homeless people. If we dont have flow in the system, we are not going to solve it. This is a grind. It is hard work. My staff are working and our nonprofit partners are working hard to change what i would say is 20 years of not using our resources effectively into a system that is effective. And i dont believe that i will also say as i said earlier, we have 24 of bay areas Homeless Population and about 5,000 people every year coming from other counties in the bay area to San Francisco and they dont necessarily stay here. But those are the numbers we are dealing with. This is not an easy problem. It is going to require using data and being smart about how we use our resources. Then we have a right to go back to the voters or at least an opportunity to go back to them. I want to point out im not going to tell you i will cheer until the time count is zero. The bottom line is it has held flat from 2015 to 2017 where l. A. Went up 39 , santa clara 15 . Seattle 16 . We are moving in the right direction. We have seen a 13 reduction in teen homelessness. I get it is bad on the streets. I get the same complaints you do. Again there is also no denying there were 265 tenlt tents in the Mission District and now there are 50 or 60. We are making progress. I agree we need to do more. But we need to do it smartly and understand that nav centers are one part of a very big system and we need to meet people at all levels. And mayor lee was aware of that and the thousandperson project to clarify, mayor lee didnt say he was going to build a thousand new nav centers beds. But we were going to get a thousand people after the streets. It has been a combination of things. We have three Navigation Centers in the pipeline with a total of over 300 new Navigation Center beds being built. We have traditional Housing Program for women who are pregnant. We have the auburn residence that has already opened. 70 units for veterans. We are now also seeking additional permanent Supportive Housing exits for individual im sorry. These another new Supportive Housing site in soma and we can leverage the private market to find more housing. We unfortunately have only gotten 190 people off the streets. But thats almost 200 more than we would have if it wasnt for mayor lees vision and his push. As you know, supervisor, we are having construction delays. These sites will start opening up in may and june and we will quickly get to that goal once we are at that point. Work is being done on that. A couple of things i could say around budge that i think budget that i think we absolutely need to see a Navigation Center we have been opening up all these Navigation Centers. We need to find one in the right neighborhood to serve that population and we are pursuing a number of options. Happy to have it in my district, by the way. Thank you. We should talk after. And we to need to open up more, but we also need to look at the rest of the system and the efficacy of nav centers and see why they are not always as successful as they should be. Supervisor cohen in the interest of time, i will just jump in and throw out questions to try to move this along. The presentation is pretty comprehensive. Playing off what supervisor ronen was saying, why is there a 60day cap . Is that a policy you inherited when you came on board . No. Again it is not a 60day cap on all beds. It is some of the beds. The reason why is because we just dont have enough housing to let everybody stay indefinitely in the nav center. Supervisor cohen how do you determine which beds get capped . Roughly we try to mix almost it is about 50 50. A little more weighted towards the more temporary beds. And it is balancing our need to be able to when i have a supervisor or a citizen call me and say i need to get this person off the streets, we need to be able to get them quickly into a site. So we have the shorterterm beds so we could have turnaround. Otherwise we would have filled up 1515 south van ness with 110 people and we would still have people on the streets. Theres no Science Behind it ak dhul there is. Actually there is a science. Based on the number of units we have turning over, we would have 300 pathway to housing beds. That would be the ideal number. That would be the right number because that matches up to everybody staying for 90 days and then you get housing. Supervisor cohen how are people selected to move into the Navigation Center . Flu a variety of ways. They are invitation only. And there is a couple of different ways people will get in. If the hot Team Identifies an individual who is a priority one client, they get prioritized for a Navigation Center bed because we want to get them off the streets. Some of the Navigation Center beds are set aside for the Encampment Resolution Team like the one we worked on that polian street napoleon street. And some beds are available for the police or hot team to have beds based on an emergency. Supervisor cohen thank you. Because of the time constraints, i would like to call up the representative from the department of public health. I have a couple of questions i wanted to ask. Maybe stick around. Dont leave just yet, jeff. How are you today . [indiscernible] supervisor cohen you are luis calderon, right . Yes. Supervisor cohen im going to ask a couple of questions. Thats fine. Supervisor cohen from a d. P. H. Perspective, how do you measure success in the wrap around services . We are pretty much overseeing the hummingbird Navigation Center which is a Psychiatric Program with Navigation Center for admission. It is very low threshold. Anybody who is dual diagnosed, we have seen the success in that program by reducing the number of people returning to p. E. S. Psychiatric emergency services. We have seen the majority of our referrals coming from psychiatric emergency. Those people that usually come on a day by basis, they come to this Navigation Center for up to 14 days. In those 14 days they transition our side of the team, try to engage with them to offer them services, do motivational interviewing and offer treatment programs. Many of those clients are offered services to discharge not just to the street, but to a program. Either a dual diagnosed program with partners from different communities. They can do a. D. U. s which is adult diversion unit or more long term placements. We can do referrals to the 90day beds. When they are more stable, we can refer them to hotel rooms. We have a small number of hotel rooms. 15 only in the community. Supervisor cohen 15 rooms on a nightly basis or 15 rooms available for quarterly we are authorized for seven days at a time but for a maximum of three to four weeks. We have been able to extend it for a period of time like other Navigation Centers where the clients are vulnerable and have psychiatric or health issues. We bring other services into the Navigation Center like in Home Support Services to provide personal care. We have nursing staff that are psychiatrically trained. We have social workers that do the same thing and connect them to services. So, by the time they are discharged, we have a complete wraparound services. We try to connect it with medical, s. S. I. We have held a couple of people from the Navigation Centers like program homeward bound to return them back to their homes. These are folks that need to be accompanied to go home because of the nursing needs. So, they are accompanied by a nurse to their state or country. We sent someone back to the philippines. Thats the only way we are able to manage them in a safe environment and maintain so they dont disappear or go back to using and become unstable. Supervisor cohen how many beds are at homing bird . Only 15 beds. Supervisor cohen and they just recently opened up . August 30th last year. We hope we will see more success. Supervisor cohen i realize you may not have data on this topic, but a number of Community Meetings i have heard time and time again about head injury and homelessness. Is this a thing . Is this real . I hear stories and concerns. Maybe you can share your expertise and understanding. You are right. We dont have specific data but we have seen over the last few years an increased number of folks with brain injuries. Which tends to happen with folks with drug, alcohol use or abuse tend to fall, hit their heads and become traumatic brain injuries. Unfortunately, many of the folks already may have had already a psychiatric disability, a psychiatric condition, drug alcohol condition and now they have a fiscal disability. Physical disability. We are looking at this particular population that can do more medical issues. Supervisor cohen is it something we should begin to track with our coordinated entry system . Thats a good question. I think database system would be able to answer that question that we can keep track more of that information. [audio indiscernible] the hummingbird referral is an inpatient unit. They are medically because they have a psychiatric disability but they are coming from the medicine side. They are coming to the emergency department, being admitted and we are discharging them to a psychiatric Navigation Center. Supervisor cohen thank you. Colleagues i dont know if you have any questions for mr. Calderon. I appreciate you sitting through and sharing with us your opinions and your thoughts. You are welcome. Supervisor cohen thank you very much. Thank you. I have one card but i think the individual isnt with us anymore. Do we have anyone who would like to offer Public Comment . Please. Step up. And can you say your name. Public good afternoon. My name is annette leonard. Im with Community Housing partnership and here in support of Navigation Centers in San Francisco. Since january 2016, the sifr vic center has provided safe res civic center has provided safe respite for people. The 316 individuals that we have helped has includeded 109 women and nine trans women who are particularly vulnerable living on the streets. We know that housing takes time and is a limited resource. The average length of stay that folks have been with us while waiting for homeless placement and working on that pathway is 145 days. Shelters dont often have the opportunity to offer the time that most participants need as they work on their housing paths. Nav centers offer the opportunity for our resident to transition off the street into a more structured environment. At civic center, we are not time limited so our problematic nature of the Services Helps to build the skills and behaviors necessary for future success. Civic center hotel Navigation Center has housed 131 participants which is 56 of our 232 total exits. [bell]. Public we have also had a positive impact on the community and our neighbors have shared their thanks for changing the environment. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next speaker please. Public good afternoon. Im director of programming for e pis cable community services. We opened Mission Street back nearly three years ago. What we saw were guaranteed housing for everyone. And we were in a unique position in that i also manage 534 single adult beds at next door sanctuary. And the nav centers get all the beds. There needs to be flow and we need to look at the system as a whole. The nav centers play a part in the homeless system. We cant forget folks at long term shelters. I agree there are people on the street that many of the folks dont want to go into the larger shelters. But to go back to the way it was, which was guaranteed housing for anyone that walks in the door of a nav center really isnt fair. And again, i strongly encourage that we look at the whole system and that includes large, small shelters along with nav centers. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker. Public i would like to stand by the comments of the prior speaker. I think San Franciscos Program Needs to include programs to exit from homelessness. We have model programs with Partner Organizations as well as the city. I think the navigation model is one that is working to extend that we have the beds to bring people off the street into that system. But this city needs to deal with Emergency Shelter up front. And i know it is not legally and humanely we cant move people off the street if you dont a place to put them. Since the time of mayor feinstein, we have not had enough beds every night of the week to bring people off the street into shelter programs. I know we dont have as many s. R. O. Rooms available. Lots of things have changed in the economy of San Francisco and the ability of you as supervisors to budget for the type of emergency upfront shelter we need as part of the entire program of care for the momless. We stand willing homeless. We stand willing to work with you to deal with this because we have to have enough beds to humanely move people off the streets in front of your constituents homes and businesses. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Public good morning supervisors. Good morning everyone. My name is alejandro. Im the assistant Program Director at st. Vincent, the largest homeless shelter in the city of San Francisco and currently operationing the Navigation Center at 1515 south van ness in the Mission District. What i can offer in terms of efficacy of Navigation Centers is aware there are major challenges that are beyond what happens on a daytoday basis. The individuals that are coming in, we have to remember these are individuals that have been on the streets for more than ten years in most cases. Individuals that have lost trust in the system and individuals that need to continue working with us to be able the regain that trust. What happens at these Navigation Centers is work involved in creating the relationship from the first day they come to change that perspective about Navigation Centers themselves, about shelters and about being indoors. There was concerns about people being on the streets and having to go back on the street. Indeed people are traumatized and that is a challenge. It is for that reason it will be important to improve the efficacy of the Navigation Centers. To have programs that will address Substance Abuse within the shelters. [bell]. Public it would be through these connections and partnerships, collaborations that we will be able to help individuals reach selfsufficiency. Thank you. Supervisor cohen thank you for your perspective. Public thank you. Emily kahn. Supervisor cohen hold on. Are you speaking for Public Comment . Public no. Supervisor cohen in you whether spoke you can only speak once. Sorry. Anyone else interested in testifying for Public Comment . Seeing none, Public Comment is now closed. Supervisor cohen great, thank you. Now, ms. Cohen come up. Public sorry. I had two clarifying points i wanted to make. Unfortunately, jeff had to step out. Supervisor sheehy, to you question about youth being on the streets in terms of assessment for placement, i want to make sure we are clear all families are assessed use a universal Assessment Tool. All adults and youth have separate assessment processes and are therefore prioritized based within their sub population. We are not prioritizing cross population. Your concern for competing with an older adult for a bed is distinct systems with distinct categories. The second point i wanted to make around length of time in the Navigation Centers. Just to point out and i know jeff didnt get to all the slides. But on slide 25 you will see only 8 of people exiting homelessness exit because their time was up. When we are talking about length of stay and the duration which people are able to stay in navigati Navigation Centers or shelters, it is a conversation about the Housing Units on the back end. The more quickly we can move people out of shelters, the faster the better for the individual and we can serve more people coming off the street. Our ability to resolve encampments is directly proportional to the beds we have able in the Navigation Centers and ability to move people through is directly tied to the exits we have on the back end. Whether thats permanent Supportive Housing, shortterm, problem solving and homeward bound, thats where we get the successes. Only 8 of the folks exiting Navigation Centers have exited because of their time. Vice chair ronen i dont want to beleaguer the point, if thats true it is a bit of a red herring for the director to talk about the thousands of people that are homeless in the region as a reason for not allowing longer stay. Because if it is only 8 of the people, then we can achieve at a much smaller price tag the amount of additional beds we need in order to solve for that problem. I just want the make that point. I think it will be a continuing conversation that we have. But its something that i know my colleagues and i really want to get have only answers here. Our residents and our businesses. There are some National Best practices and data that are important to infuse in this conversation because we have not seen success frsz other communities that have unlimited shelter stays successes from other communities that have unlamented shelter stays. Unlimited shelter stays. I would be eager to bring that information and continue this conversation. Supervisor cohen thank you. Im happy with what i heard. I want to thank everybody who came out to participate in todays hearing. There was a lot of valuable information shared. You can file we can either continue to call the chair or file the hearing. Supervisor cohen why dont we file this hearing as heard. Thank you. You have to make the motion. Vice chair ronen i make a motion to file this hearing. Without objection. Can we hear is item number five i think is going to be continued if thank you. We have to call it. Please call it. Clerk number five is ordinance amending the health code to ban the sale and manufacture in San Francisco of animal fur products. We would like to ask for a continuance of the item. If your march 28th meeting is happening to that meeting. If not, then the prior meeting, march 12th or 14th i believe it is. We are werently working with Business Community on a better Economic Impact study. Thank you. Can i get a motion well there is any Public Comment on this item . Public comment is closed. Can i get a motion to continue vice chair ronen i would like to make a motion to continue it to march 14th. No objection and the meeting is adjourned . Okay. Meeting is adjourned. [meeting adjourned] they tend to come up here and drive right up to the vehicle and in and out of their car and into the victims vehicle, i would say from 1015 seconds is all it takes to break into a car and theyre gone. Yeah, we get a lot of breakins in the area. We try to i just want to say goodbye. Thank you. Sometimes thats all it takes. I never leave anything in my car. We let them know theres been a lot of vehicle breakins in this area specifically, they target this area, rental cars or vehicles with visible items. This is just warning about vehicle breakins. Take a look at it. If we can get them to take it with them, take it out of the cars, it helps. Rivoli. Clerk welcome to the february 7, 2018 of the meeting of the San Francisco board of appeals. The presiding president this evening is frank fung. He is joined by commissioner swig and commissioner barry