About it the right way. We are proud to have passed our peer review. And finally, as it relates to our audit recommendation follow up program, what we realize and know is that the value of the cfas work is not just in the recommendations themselves but the corrective actions implemented by the City Departments. Its ongoing basis at 6, 12, 18 and 24 months from audit issuance, resulting in the recommendations issued by us from july 1st, 2010, through 2017 and 98 of the recommendations issued from july 1st, 2010, through june 30th, 2015, is just a testament to the work of the department and the seriousness they take from the audit work performed by our team. So of the 190 recommendations not implemented, which is only 37 or 1. 7 , they are more than twoyearsold. Generally because either its a major implementation or there needs to be some type of bargaining unit discussion before anything can occur. So thats the end of my presentation. Congratulations on passing the audit and thank you and your staff for the monumental amount of work that you do to keep the city on track. Thank you very much. I have a few questions i want to ask. Start with some of the deeper material you have in the report, i agree, excellent overview of whats going on. In terms of the nonprofit monitoring, you give us numbers of contractors who had findings which was a very low figure. Can you tell us something about the dollar value of the contracts opposed to the fact that there was 21 contractors with one or more findings . What was the dollar value of the contracts . In order to be in the pool subject to citywide monitor, you need to have 250 million or more and contracts with more than one city agency. There are a lot of nonprofits that meet the threshold, the findings are not specific to any one contract, theyre for the nonprofit as a whole. Its a little harder to answer your question in sense of dollar value issue in any one of the findings. Say we have at least one of the organizations on the list is i think arts and Cultural Center that owns a building and administers Community Programs in the building, maybe does Community Arts grants or Something Like that. Theres a range of dollar values being worked by that particular agency like owning and managing the building to doing Community Grants so i dont know if that answers your question. Is there a list that lists the contractors yes. Our report that was issued from the program lists theres a couple details in the back where you can see by name all of the nonprofits that are monitored and the ones where they have multiple findings, theyre named and then the few where we have what we call elevated concern status, which is high level of monitoring and specific action plan thats required of that agency to bring it into compliance, i think we had five agencies that we made that status designation for this fiscal year. Also another way of looking at this is what areas of services do the nonprofit contractors provide. For example, are you finding a greater compliance for those who provide Human Services versus Administrative Services or any kind of way of looking that tells us more . These are all nonprofits, theyre all in different types of public and community service, health, substance abuse, social services, arts and culture, they kind of span the whole service side, not bricks and mortar, construction or anything like that. I would say that the issue is often nonprofit that doesnt have the infrastructure it needs to deliver services properly. Financials, making sure they do proper tax filings and a number of other compliance issues and then Board Members where being on a nonprofit is a lot of work, its difficult to get people to serve on the boards and to function properly as an Audit Committee and review the financials, keep the staffing to a high level of compliance. A fair amount of technical coaching is helping get financials structured, beefing up staff or hiring outside staff if they need to and trying to get stronger people on the board capable of oversight functions and diversify fundraising and that kind of work. I know nonprofits are under a lot of pressure these days, so im i think whatever youre able to learn from this and share with them is only going to benefit them and the city. A question on the whistle blower work you all do, i was surprised to learn the other day that the whistle blower law only applies to employment, and not retaliation for example in services. Say you have a city contractor who is providing assisted housing and someone in the assisted housing files a complaint that money is being skimmed or people are jumping ahead on the list or what have you, in retaliation theyre ehe evicted. Thats apparently not covered in the law from what i understand. Is that your understanding as well . Correct. As it relates to retaliation, the side of the house we live on is the investigation side. We dont handle the retaliation. That is on the ethics side. And i know that theyre quite aware and are working on various pieces of legislation. Do you investigate non employment whistle blowing . If its around getting city funds, well look into the complaints. I believe a citizen can use the program to report abuse of funds by city employees. So so rigging a waiting list would be abusing the funds. Yes. I was looking at some of the audits you listed here and i didnt find all of them online. The one you did on ethics at the end of december. So as a just as a reminder, as i spoke regarding other assessments, that work is done under other assessments and the work belongs to the Ethics Commission, therefore it is not published on our web site. We have done the work and monitored it, and then we remitt it to Ethics Commission and they will then go through their process and determine where they will post it. But you have it listed as issued on 12 28. We did issue it. I was responsible for the work, monitored it and worked with the contractors but it wont be on my web site. Its not under my authority. Got it. Thank you. I have a real specific question, last Year Department of Supportive Housing and increased oversight, do you as part of your order look to see if theres good coordination among the agencies i guess they would be agencies or what, nonprofits who are providing homeless services. I have heard numbers of in excess of 200 million a year that the city spends with outside agencies and i know theres a lot of them and thats a lot of money. I wonder if anyone is working hard to see there is good coordination and isnt overlap of services. I think from a broader perspective with all of the work that has been done with the various agencies that are involved in providing homeless services, i believe this is why we have department of homelessness and ensuring were using our dollars in the most effective and efficient way as going on currently today from what i understand and i can see. And then as we move forward in our audit planning, we can determine are we doing a compliance audit in that area or an audit that looks at operations and that hasnt been determined for this fiscal year but next fiscal year we can consider that. Okay. At this moment in time if we went to look at it in that way, they really havent had enough time with the new re right, right. To move forward in a way that i think would be beneficial from an audit perspective. Perhaps in the next fiscal year. Yes, we will consider. Thank you. Thanks. No more any Public Comment on the presentations . Good morning. The 2015 16 civil grand jury issued a report on the Whistle Blower Program and the most recent change in the ordinance restricted the scope of protection under the ordinance as well as the point that was raised there, there is no protection for contractors. And frequently, especially with the subway project, where one of the contractors made some enormous disclosers, that contractor had no protections. Regarding the list of audit reports that are published on the csa web site, i think it would be useful to list all reports even though even the reports that are not shown on the site, so citizens can see what reports exist and if you know the report exists, you can sunshine say the Ethics Commission for that specific report. But i cant see any reason why an organization Whose Mission is transparency wouldnt post all reports even though they feel they cant post the actual report. Thank you. Any other Public Comment . Item six. Opportunity for Committee Members to comment or act on any matters within the committees jurisdiction. The first is fiscal year 2017 2018 work initiatives, of which there are seven. So well start with benchmarking and work through to the annual geo bond report. So i assume stop me if not, i will go through the list and brandon and or kristin can comment. Tonia referenced the benchmarking report and theyre finished and will have more presentation at the next meeting. Standardized templates, i gave you some of the differences at the last meeting that exist between the standardized templates and the things you liked the most in the year end report. And i havent done any further work on it since then, that has not progressed but i now have a staff person who i can ask to spend some time on it during the current quarter. Its complicated by the reporting issues that were referenced when mr. Carleton was asking and noted in the health bond. The priority is to get everybody paid and get reporting straightened out so they can do reporting. I havent wanted to push forward with julie dawson and other people in public works and bond managers who would be responsible because of the band width. Thats where it stands. Web site redesign, theres been work with our i. T staff people. There was a sheet in your packet that gives a sense of how a new design would work. Tiles is the basic answer where theres a lot of performance web sites which use a design like this and it looks to me like each bond program would be a clickble tile. And then we would add detail underneath that where you would be able to look at recent bond Program Reports. We could include some things like the graphs available from the work done in our fiscal year 16 17 report. And so at least those two things, which will be Better Organization of the bond Program Report that you already have and we know theres Quality Improvement work that needs to be done on sort of the administrative content of your site, where agendas and minutes are listed and that kind of thing. So maura, did you want to comment further . I dont think i included that in your packet. But ill get that to you today. Apologies. It was in the packet i had. Just a copy of an email from larry wilson which shows the tile design. Sorry. I thought i thought we were going to hire an agency for this. We are working on a contractor for this. So were not doing this, right . No. This web site and another section or two of the controllers web site that need design improvement. We have a contractor available to us and we need to proceed with a small contract to get it done. To execute it or decide what were going to put on there. Are we going to talk about the strategy. You give them a scope of work, they give you beta test designs to look at and move through it in that way. Okay. It seems these issues all sort of fit together, the benchmarking thing might inform what we want to put on there based on what other people put on there. The analysis on what people are going to the web site for right now, we want those easy to get to. I want to make sure theres actually an analysis discussion and not just a design. Yep. Anything else on that . Public Satisfaction Survey. So i have a little bit better progress to report on this one, included in your packet was we proceeded through a new rfp rpq we do to have a pool of contractors available to us, you and any City Department that wants to use it that do surveys, Stakeholder Engagement and outreach and choose a contractor in the rfq when we do the every other year big city survey. Thats the purpose of the pool. I provided a list of contractors who qualified under the pool to get a sense of who the market is, some of the names might look familiar to you. Some do a lot of survey work for the city, Library Open Hours site testing for the last two rounds. Fm3 as its called, they do a lot of survey work for the city. Just to give you a sense of the market there. Can i interrupt while were on this. Can you walk us through the four categories that you list in the top because it appears these are the categories were going to consider in evaluating qualified respondents. And how important it is to have a checkmark in all four or as many as possible. For the purpose of the stakeholder outreach work you want to do, i think anybody who qualifies in one of the first two columns could respond to your rsp. The difference there is subtle. Stakeholder outreach we make sure the people have experience doing survey work, survey design, sampling methodology. Language facility, submit work that shows their capacity in those areas. Stakeholder engagement, a lot of the same issues but also focus groups and facilitation services. And then, you know, so again when we issue the rfp, anyone who qualifies in column one or two could respond to it and no restriction to do so. Facilitation, this is us looking to have people we can hire to run Group Decision making processes which are sometimes requested by our clients or needed by us and the last column is city survey. This is the city survey you do once every three years. Every two years. Yep. Two other products that were sent to email and there are hard copies on the table over here. Those two products are a draft scope of work for what we might put out. Sorry, i should take a step back and refresh peoples memories, the desire on the part of the committee was to conduct a voter satisfaction or citizen or User Satisfaction survey of bond built facility to test peoples happiness in their User Experience and experience of the facility. This is a good thought of going out and asking people do they like the facility, is it clean and maintained, is the city getting what it pays for. Questions like that. So we needed to wait until we had pfrq survey providers available to do the work. We went back through in my staff and looked at the other surveys in the same area done by us and other city agencies. We have done surveys ourselves a couple of times. We did it on rec park facilities years ago. We have done it on street cleanliness. You go to the facility, you stop people and say would you be willing to spend five minutes filling out a survey for me. Sometimes people do it on site. Sometimes theyll do it online. Theres a couple of design issues that the survey contractors help us solve. So like i said,we have done it at rec parks and once for street cleanliness. We went through the rfps structured for those things. With marnis help here, my staff person in the back, pulled together the work to give you a sense of the kind of contract it would be. Its very simple. Its important not to overcomplicate this. I did try to put in for you some of the things which are definite. The survey design itself, its language reach which is standard and then some other options which you may or may not include. Just to call those things out, turn to the second page, i put down there deliverable five optional, develop a plan for existing standards and evaluations. You could do this or not do this. The most important thing is to be at the site asking people questions about how theyre experiencing the facility. But for rec park facility for example, we have stands in the city in our own Inspection Program that have to do with cleanliness, there may be other standards that im not aware of. Design, lighting, things like that where there is a city standard of some kind you would want to have in there and then ask your contractor to compare what theyre hearing from the public to the city standard. Maybe you just want answers to questions youre crafting and literature is an option. You can choose to do this or not, review related efforts, again, value or not. We could do this work opposed to a contractor. Those are some of the choices you can make in this. So hold that thought heres the draft scope of work for your consideration and then i passed out two sheets which youll need to do a little work to get to scope of work and a little bit of work to choose the facilities. I think what we have been talking about over a couple of meetings is completed projects in at least two park bonds, 2008 clean and safe and 2011 street repaving and safety bond. Marni did some work to put together the lists. Theyre not complete yet. I apologize for that. We need to check a couple of different sources to be sure that the project is ruled complete. We didnt have time to do the two tasks but wanted to let you know what universe you would choose if selecting those bonds. There are other options, we talked about choosing a larger facility like Public Safety building or Something Like that. I think we decided to focus on these types of areas. So thats where we stand. And im just thinking out loud on how to proceed with this. We can meet with liaisons and work through to completion on these two tasks and try to get the rfp issued before the next meeting so the work can proceed. Im very sure we can get it done before the end of the fiscal year, its just how much you want to leave to staff. I dont remember making a decision on facilities. No, you didnt. Okay, i really think we need to talk as a group about why were even doing this. What would we facilities in particular. I have no idea what we would do with the information. I think the suggestion, sounds familiar at least, i think ben had suggested and we had this discussion at a prior meeting is since this is the first time were doing it, this is the pilot, to choose some projects that have been recently completed and i think the two bonds, the parks and 2011 road paving bonds were mentioned as possibilities. We havent made a decision on it. That was just a suggestion made by ben. Is my recollection correct . I think you suggested for us to consider. I think thats right. And i dont think we intend the update today to be leading in any way today. I think its intended to be a current status. I suggest probably where we want this to be in terms of the project at the next meeting is have peg and marni work with the liaisons between now and the next meeting and by the time they come back to you, they would have some suggestions that would be driven by the liaisons on kind of a scope and suggested projects. And that would open it up for a fuller conversation here, does it feel right to the rest of the committee, what would other alternatives look like. I think we tried to do that and didnt get there. Correct. Thats why i wanted to remind everyone the spirit of this was lets see what the voters think about what either how were doing or the bond programs are doing. I dont know larry if you remember the conversation, it had to be six months ago. I do. The more we talked about them when we got together, i kept wondering to what end. What are we going to do with the information. I think its important to make sure when you do the work, its actionable at the very end and it does seem i think this does dove tail with the benchmarking report and web site design. One thing that occurs to me, a benefit from it, the course of implementing a bond various adjustments are made and as those adjustments are made, did that divert from what people expected was going to happen. So you end up saying well, you guys made a bunch of changes and suddenly were in this park over here instead of this one over there and did you go back and let people know thats what was going to happen. Its a way of keeping in touch and connected to the voters who approve the bond to begin with. Is the question as a voter did this bond, this 2008 bond, did the outcome meet your expectations. Something like that . Thats close. Thats close. Its also how has the out come changed. Were voters kept informed of a change. Lets take for example a fire station on the port which is on a pier. Its hard for the fire engines to get out of there. So theres always a question about is this where you really want to do more on the fire station or do you want it to be moved off of the pier and closer to some place it can move. I thought in the last one or two conversations we had there was no objection amongst the group that this would be a good idea, number one, the Satisfaction Survey would be its less to address what larry, you talked about, whether there are changes. It is pretty much a snap shot judgment of a report by the citizen of the donor to say how do you like this park or whatever program were talking about as a way to render a measurement of satisfaction and some ways accountability for the fact that they voted on something and the city delivered on what they voted on. I thought there was no disagreement, that this was a good idea and thats why we proceeded to work with the Controllers Office to try and create scope and possible courses of action. The other motivation we discussed as a group is that this would be a good thing number one. Number two, since we have a very robust budget that this group hasnt used much of, this would be an opportunity to use some of the funds that we have in our budget to see how satisfied or unsatisfied is citizen is on a particular program. We talked about a particular program because thats kind of easier to measure. Im sorry, i just want to clarify. The origin of this really came from a set of facts and i realize you can overgeneralize from a set of facts but nevertheless it came from a set of facts. In the castro, my neighborhood, they widened the sidewalks which narrowed the amount of street traffic could go. Traffic has slowed down, businesses have closed because they couldnt get customers as they had. When you ask people what happened, they said we were surveyed and this is what we said we wanted but what we got was something completely different. On the basis of that i began raising questions about are people having a postbond experience analysis. And we werent at that time. For there or anywhere else. There are other examples but that hits home for me. So from that i realized that its very easy for bureaucratic silos to exist and things start moving up a certain chain and stay within that small narrow area. And there is not an opportunity for the public to go back and say golly, now that you have done that and its had the impact, how do we correct that impact. Take for example the bart two going into chinatown and the impact on businesses at union square and elsewhere. They come back and say we can provide funding for some of these businesses. We can do more signage to get more people going there. But those thoughts come up after a series of a lot of complaints. They dont come up because you had a process. So what i had in mind and which i hoped the committee was thinking about as well was lets take a look at whether people are getting what they thought they were getting and if they didnt, how did it change and how can we improve the communication to come closer to what we had in mind. I think its addressing the very first part. How do citizens feel about a particular project now that its done. And i think based on results, what we do with it, its not something we want to post on the web site, it would be a beginning and end. And action report. This is the first time were doing it, as discussed people seem to think its a good idea. Thats my recollection also. We discuss the basis for the merit and went on to say lets run a trial balloon so to speak and see what comes out of it, well do a slow rollout and do an evaluation after that. And so in the scope of work currently, as suggested by staff, we have that there would be some analysis that measures users perception of the attractiveness of the facility, the safety, the use, the maintenance, the impact that the geo bond had on the facility, the conditions and efforts. So we further went on to say that theres a couple of things we might look at right now if were going to do a limited rollout and we have the street bonds, which i dont think would be a good a good measurement. I think the other option park bonds is more likely to be result in comments that will be usable to us as to whether or not the park, playground, gymnasium, Capital Improvements to the park were up to their expectations or not and given the choice between those two, my suggestion would be we do the rollout to measure exactly as currently described in the project objections for the park bonds. Couldnt it help inform the discussion earlier, about the broad bond and the funds can go different places versus a much more narrow bond and i think start ing with the park bonds makes sense. The Sunset Playground for example, we know the scope of the project was reduced because of circumstances that came up. Its a real success but thats an example of a bond with a much more narrow scope. To see what the impact there. If we have a bond in the future, whether its Community Health center or something else, we can get the feedback. I think it seems like a worthwhile endeavor for the committee to support. Can i just add i didnt mean to jump ahead by providing the products. We just wanted to show progress on the committees desire to do this. This is a Good Practice that we try to follow as well. You have a lot of hard data, did we spend what we intended to spend, was it on time and opinion data. This is what were trying to get with the biannual survey. We want to know what people think and spend time trying to understand if theres a difference why and how to address those things. Were excited about you doing the project. You may want to test a couple different stakeholders in any one project. In a rec center there could be local parks, neighborhood Interest Groups who have a clear memory of what the facility should be. You might want to have a focus Group Conversation with folks like that. General public, they probably dont remember but know their experience of the site. So you want to do intercept and site testing. Theres different data for what people are experiencing with bond funds. I agree with whats been said. My thought is, the scope seems very extensive so i want to make sure its narrowed to what we think is going to best serve this committee and pick one neighborhood part project and pick one i would think resurfacing, i know on the streetscapes when they did my coffee shop, that is all they were talking about. I think you would get strong responses. You know, maybe pick two projects and narrow down your scope, lets do it and see what the results are. I do have real concerns about, theres going to be public voters who have no thoughts at all on it. Picking your population for survey is going to be really important but i think we should give it a narrow pilot study shot. Ill second what robert said. We should narrow this down. When i first saw this, thats what jumped out at me. This is enormous. Theres a whole lot in here. Just to focus on a small group, one or two projects that we think have fairly high visibility would make more sense to me on a pilot basis. If you just Start Talking to general public about everything, youre going to get mostly what do you think of this . Well, its okay i guess. I dont know. Nea thats what i would say. What do you think of the fire station we just rehabbed . I dont know. I dont know, its a fire station. But if you go to something that is high visibility and robert named a good one and larry you talked about the 1 on Mission Street where there was input from the public, expectations were developed and then youve the project was delivered, this wasnt what i was looking for. Something like that, follow up, see. We came to you at the beginning stage of the project, we asked for your input. We thought this is what we heard. This is what we delivered and what do you think. Is this what you were looking for . It sounds like in this case at least we would find its not. I always think about what happened at the stadium. The neighbors were very concerned about the fact that they were going to have a High School Sports at night with big lights and all the rest of it. I was working for the mayor at the time and mary burns was head of rec, what are you going to do about this. Were surrounding with trees and it will block out the lights. And he went back to the neighbors and said its handled, the trees were like two feet tall. They would be ready in about 30 years. Weve got time. I thank you for all your comments. I think we should put this to bed at this point. I do have two comments. The scope of the work and i read it, i was impressed by the comprehensive nature of this and obviously it touched all the points that one wishes to have as a deliverable in any kind of survey. So in that respect, i really liked it. I think what we can control is the selection of the number of projects, if were going to have two, we still want the results and the measurements deliverables to touch all the basis that we want to measure. So maybe we could scale this down a bit but i think its very comprehensive and touches upon the relevant pieces we want to learn from. Now, how the surveyor, the contractor designs the actual questions of focus groups, thats what were hiring them to do. But as far as touching all those touch points that are relevant, i really felt this was good. I think we can control not just the scope but the multiple projects. If were just going to have two, we still want the results of each of the two to give us the touch points that we want. The other point i would like to make and peg you said we could do this and im sure you can, parts of it in the Controllers Office, you have done it before. Knowing that all the existing work that you are doing on our behalf, staffing us and plus other departments, plus the fact that we have the funds to hire a contractor to do this, i strongly believe we should have it out to a special survey company, one of the said you have used. Obviously we still need your assistance to manage the process. I agree. I just expertise and survey design is what were buying with the pool. Theyll be good at it and will give you good options. Something like the standard thing, you may spend a lot of time having a consultant educate themselves where its not worth the money, where we can do it. We can narrow it down. I apologize, i have to leave now. I have another meeting. Do we need to take a vote or is this just moving forward . I think all the remaining agenda items on the calendar were just discussion and quick updates. We can rip through them quickly. If Committee Members need to leave we can accommodate that. Get out of here. So well keep working on this and produce another draft and share it back with liaisons. And have it on the same item on the next calendar. By that time we can get to a good scope of work i think. The project choice, we will if im correct that the universe of possible projects to choose is completed bond projects, then, you know, well try to get a comprehensive list of that so you feel you have the whole universe to think about and share that list. Just fellow members, when we started talking about this at last meeting, i believe kristin and i were kind of volunteered to kind of lead this survey youre doing a great job. I would like to invite to open it up to other members who have a specific interest. You could join us or you could also email kristin and myself some specific ideas of followup ideas based on our discussion, either the type of project everyone seems to have their own idea what is the Perfect Program to test to survey. So i encourage you to do that and i think that will kind of speed up a little bit of this process so by our next meeting when we have an update there will be some clearer idea of whether the consensus of the specific two programs would be. Remainder of item six. You requested for the calendar, thats there. Public finance office, if you havent met him before. Good morning members of the committee. Briefly walk you through the projected issuances over the next few months. As a reminder the 2014 transportation and road improvement bonds and 2012 clean Neighborhood Park bonds are both in progress. The legislation is currently going through the board of supervisors process and i expect that it will be considered for full board final approval at tomorrows Board Meeting and then well move forward with that in february. And then after that, in later spring, early summer, well have the 2014 earthquake safety Emergency Response bonds, full remaining amount 189. 18 million. Health and Public Safety, that amount is estimate, it may change depending on the review of expenditures which theyre still in process. Affordable housing about 82 million for them. Were hoping to go through all three of the programs at once to combine them into a single sale. If you have questions about the upcoming calendar. Im happy to answer them. Any questions from committee . I may have a question. Ben, are you going to let us know what is going on with the new Accounting System . Yes. I was planning to provide a quick update in the other matters and agenda items. Ill hold off. This memo is really helpful, thank you. I dont need to give updates on f and g, just to say were progressing as planned and well update as we work. I should note for the record, there are no more members of the public in audience. We do not need to take Public Comment. Number c, the web design. We discussed it. At the request of the chair and mr. Carlson, i wanted to provide brief update on the status of the Financial System conversion. We are for the Committee Members who dont know, the city replaced our long standing Financial System which we called famous on july 1st. We went live with a new system that we had been working on for a couple of years. That was installed in 1980 and the last significant upgrade was 1997 which mr. Carlson will remember from his time at public works. At the time of initial adoption by the city, it was the best in breed and by the time we cut off, we were the last county to use it. A very significant upgrade. We only go through these every 20 or 30 years in the city. Were still in the middle of it. Were transitioning in different parts of the system at Different Levels of stability and working to stabilize the system. The piece of the system that i think most directly pertains to the work of the committee is conversion of data from one chart of accounts to the new chart of accounts and what it means for reporting. So you go through a massive crosswalk of data between june 30th and july 1st cutting from one system to another. Inevitably in a conversion like this, you have data conversion errors where despite testing and the rest, data ends up where it wasnt intended to be. So in any project, you have an element of cleaning up the data conversions. We had a significant number of data conversion errors in one specific part of the world, relating to capital accounting and reporting. The most complicated financial structures in the city exist in this space, multiple projects and multiple departments and in many cases, specifically the department of public works, using new chart of account functionality to retire some of the subsystems they had been using in the past. That added to the complexity of this. We need to look ahead for the next fiscal year end and get back to running reporting for you and other stakeholders that gives you a sense of budget for example the level of detail you need without having to do significant am of manual data to get it. So were in the midst of that. It is affecting some of the reporting youre seeing. We do need to get there in coming months, the complexion of it and working with department of public works and our own Department Team to develop stricter calendars to let me communicate a specific date. I would be happy to answer questions around the process. My understanding is its not limited to Just Department of public works but virtually all focusing on general Obligation Bonds all of the previous, general obligations bonds responsible for reviewing. I think its true. Within the amount of data, the data conversation are working with those most affected, public work issues are the most acute. You do see it in other cases. For example, the level of inversion requirements are more limited, it is mostly felt in capital departments. M. P. A general obligation, their capital reporting or expenditures are fine . Housing is more straightforward. Remember that in many cases here public works is the delivery agent for most of the geo bonds youre seeing. Housing, mt, there are clean up activities, i just meant to imply it is most acute in public works. Because i heard when you talk about the old structure, the new structure, crosswalks testing, someone said there wasnt testing of that conversion data. Can you confirm there was testing . Yeah, there absolutely was prior to july 1st. Prior to july 1st we went through multiple testing. I appreciate that. Thats helpful. And then my concern with regards to the february bonds sales, the bond documents discloser requirements, would that require because we cant right now report on bond proceeds spending, would that require any kind of discloser in the bond process and if so, what would be the impact on potential Interest Rates . I think weve had conversations about any of this triggers discloser events. That is part of the ongoing conversation preparing our oss for each sale. I cant answer that kind of what the specifics would be. There may well be a discloser of some form in the documents. Others can speak otherwise. I cant imagine this is material enough in any way to trigger changes in kind of the bidding we receive on documents. Yeah, were currently in the process of updating discloser documents. There may be some narrative description of whats going on with the transition of Financial System, but i think all of the numbers are going to reflect what has been recently published. Those are reliable numbers and i cant quantify any potential impact to our Interest Rates based on this situation. I do understand an effort is underway to fix this. But we dont know when it will be fixed at this point. But if for any reason it wasnt fixed by the end of the fiscal year, it would impact the ability to produce i suppose. Absolutely. This work needs to be completed by the time we get to the close next year. I can tell you its a matter of months and not deeper than that because it needs to be. We have priority of resources to make it happen but i cant give you a specific date which is what i would like to know and im sure you would as well. Yeah, because again, in our bimonthly reports we used to get a bond fund status summary report and we havent had one since june and again, i think one of our primary responsibilities is to be able to say bond funds are being expended, if we cant its difficult to do that. I appreciate the efforts and hope you can keep us appraised of successes. I will plan to do so with this item on future meetings. Any Public Comment on the items discussed . If not,