Different ways. I dont know but just in the recent and maybe its just this time of year, but theres been a lot of calls related to pg e. So maybe its annual. Im not sure if its just this time of year that this happens. I dont know. But what are these outliers . Are we using this information and are we building the best budgets when it comes to budget time . Id like more information on the station 49 hander and how its reflected in our budget, and how its reflected in their budget, as well. I appreciate the job that you do, mr. Corso. I dont know how the city could possibly be in a deficit given the place in our economy is with our unemployment at 4. 1 . I can only imagine the problems were going to have when we hit that downturn, because winter is coming. Absolutely. Thank you for your comments, and you touched on a lot of things, so if im missing anything, please let me know. To answer your question, i dont think we can get out of being asked for reductions up front. I think those are general instructions to all city departments. Howeve however, in the past, what we have done and the commission has advocates we are in need of additional funding versus a reduction to any services. So what we have done in the past is if we have savings and revenues or something to account for a portion of our reduction, weve put those on the table, but we also say we dont feel we can absorb any further reductions, and these are the reasons why. Weve laid those out as part of our budget submission. So i think its an ongoing conversation can the Mayors Office, and they kind of emphasized this, that Even Department submitted what their target reduction was, that still wouldnt address the entire deficit problem thats being proposed. So its an ongoing conversation with the mayor offis office, we discussed those kind of things. So thats a discussion that well continue to have past the february deadline. With regards to station 49, i think it was trrd i dont have any information on the budget back then, but station 49, what that Ambulance Service looked like at that time is significantly different than what it looks like now, because those ambulances went into fire stations. The number of ambulances, the number of calls was dramatically less than what we have now. Especially in recent years, weve had dramatic increases in staff. So outside of the inflation, just the department and ems the department has now as compared to what it had originally was far greater than what the original amount was. And thats something were continuing to work with, as we havent seen call volumes slow down at all, we continue to work with the mayor office in response to that, in order to provide an adequate response time. We need to be properly resources from an ems perspective. And if i could mention quickly, thats an excellent point, but whether ems was a part of the department of health or the department, that growth would have been there any way. So if it was still in the department of health, that would be in the department of health budget, and i want to make sure that we have received that growth as well because we have taken on this and i believe that obviously, we its natural. It makes sense that we would have that. But i want to make sure we get the budget that reflects that growth. And then, just in general, we do look at, and part of the Budget Committee, part of their work is to Service Different areas of the department. We try to get as diverse a group a possible so we have all ranks, all divisions, and we do a Needs Assessment and we look at some of the data providing on those specific items as far as additional funding requests to the Mayors Office as part of our overall budget. Did i hit on yes. Okay. Thank you. Commissioner covington . Thank you, mr. President. I will yield the floor to the chief of the department. Chief, did you still want to speak . At 11 15, i do have to part, but ill seek to continue because i know theres another item im meeting with the police chief, the sheriff, and our new mayor. I just wanted to pretty much echo what mark what mr. Corse had said. We really would alienate a lot of people if there was id love it to be that way, personally. Everybody else in the Public Safety must reduce their operating budgets. In a field of 55, 60 departmen departments, i think thats a request that theyre going to make across the board. However, its, to your point, the ability to craft a very good justification. We have in many cases, during many difficult years, with the assistance of the commission, to say we get it. However, this is why we feel we cant reduce or why we need more in some cases. Youre absolutely right. It predated me as chief, but it was july 1st, 1997 that we took over the formerly Paramedic Division and entered them into our department, and there was good reason for that. Along the way, there was somaics and pains people say did we inherit this huge monster, and i would say we inherit that was rightfully placed in the Fire Department. At best, there were eight to 12 ambulances during their peak period in the 90s, which to me is very surprising. We struggle with having sometimes 25 and 26 at peak periods, so weve done a lot more. It would be interesting to take a look at the analysis in terms of what the budget was then, but i can tell you the budget was not that much. Were applying so many more resources, but to do that analysis, that would be very helpful. Im a native San Francisco, native neighborhoods, Candlestick Point will be a great addition, but an exciting point to this citys history. I think the work for us begins now, and itll be extra challenging with some executive leadership changes over the course of the next, you know, few weeks to june to to july excuse me, january of 2020. But all the while, i think our justification will be the same no matter who is sitting in the executive seat, in that Public Safety should matter, should be prioritized, and we we will have a justification to back up our arguments. Thats all i wanted to add. Thank you. Thank you, chief. Commissioner covington. Thank you, mr. President. Mr. Corse, im sorry you have to be the messenger of this bad news. Im feeling quite nervous about a number of, im sorry you hav to be the messenger of this bad news. Im feeling quite nervous about a number o, im sorry you have to be the messenger of this bad news. Im feeling quite nervous about a number of things. This proposed deficit of 709 million for the city, that is incredible, considering that we are currently in boom times. I hate to say it, but i really feel that, you know, the economic downturn can be expected and that a recession really looms large in all of our lives. I were on borrowed time, just like with earthquakes. If we dont have one today, that means were one day closer to having one. This weve had quite a quite a good run economically, and thank goodness for the Obama Administration and janet yellin and everyone who worked so hard to make sure that the finances of the country were go good. But we cant excuse me. We cant continue this rate of growth, so there has to be some contraction in the market, and im concerned about there being the requisite contraction in the San FranciscoFire Department and its budget. So here comes my familiar drum about the general fund. We cannot, as a department, continue to depend solely upon the general fund. Everybody goes to the general fund. When you have a request for a 2. 5 reduction in each year, a cumulative 5 in the second year of our budget, we need to tap into outside resources. Any budget that comes to us, you know, presented by you, mr. Corso im not frustrated with you in any way. Im just frustrated with this coming up year after year, and were doing the same thing. Were handling our business the exact same way. We need to be able to go to foundations and go to branchs of the federal government to tap into funds that are being offered. We dont have the grant writers that i keep talking about. This, to me, is a priority. This is a priority. I any budget that comes to me, as we sit here, as commissioners, i have to see that as a protected category. A new category but a protected category. Theres home hand security funds, there are health funds. There are all kinds of funds that are available. There are foundations that have so much money related to Public Safety, related to all of these things, and were still not doing our Due Diligence to make sure that that is something that were at least in competition for. Were not in the game at all. Its very frustrating for me to have to say this over and over again. I really suspect that with the downturn in the economy, its not going to be a 5 reduction thats being requested. I think that is the starting point, knowing what little i know about finances. I think that is the starting point. I think that is a conservative number, that it could be 10 , and then, were left flat footed. I know that you agree with me, so please dont take what i was saying as an attack on you. Its not an attack on you, but we have got to work smarter. And you know, we have brilliant people in the department. We could we can do better, and we must do better. So i also had a question about the Budget Committee. Who actually, this is a question for the president of the commission. Which commissioners currently serve on the Budget Committee . I do, and i dont know. Vice president nakajo . Okay. So its currently the president and the Vice President , because i thought commissioner hardeman was on it at one point, at well. No. I chose not to be on it over the years. Im very fortunate. Okay. Okay. This is something we both feel is important, as well, commissioner covington, so we share your concerns. Thank you. That we dont have a grant writer in the department. I know the Police Department has probably two or three. They have a staff of grant writers. They have three grant writers in the Police Department. So it is a priority, mr. Corso. And i daresay theyre not smarter than we are. Lets get with it. I think mr. Corsos got the message. And also, mr. President , to you, you have mentioned a number of times about the need for friends of the San FranciscoFire Department, and rumor has it, sir, that you will be retired. Wow. Thank you for your suggestion. Got more time for us. More time. Youre more than welcome from my suggestion. Theres certainly a lot of money in the private sector that could be tapped to support our department. Well, every time you have mentioned the friends of the Fire Department, i supported it. We did have one years ago, but it disbanded, but its something that should be researched a little bit more, yeah, how we could reestablish that nonprofit entity. Well, the nonprofit entity would have to be totally separate from the department. It would have to be a 501 c 3, but i have always bought, since you first joined the commission, you have brought that idea up, and i have always thought that it was an excellent idea. Well, the Planning Department has one, and a very successful one. It raises a lot of money each year to basically be used for training purposes for unbudgeted expenses of the Department Personnel going to conferences and seminars and whatnot, so its a good thing. The members of the department would love that, just love that. Park and rec has one, as well. Thats very true. All right. Well, thank you very much, and mr. Corso, i look forward to working with you on the budget. Certainly. You too. Write that grant writer in. Thank you, commissioner covington. Vice president nakajo. Thank you very much, president cleaveland. Thank you very much director corso. I appreciate this process because this process is what weve been working with since ive been here. I know that theres concerns on maybe modifying or changing the process. Again, i appreciate it because you have always been able to walk us through the process, and with these timelines and with these instructions, so when i see a deficit number and in terms of your presentation, the projected deficit that was referred to was 88 million fiscal year 1819. Excuse me . Do i have this wrong . Can you explain this a little bit more about projected deficit over the next two fiscal years, and were talking about San Franciscos projected deficit, correct, on page 7 . Absolutely. So as part of the joint report, the controllers office, Mayors Office, and the Budget Office looked at projected deficits for the next five years, and assuming nothing changes, they stack on each other going outward. So in 1819, which is the first year, an 88 million deficit, and in the second year, its 173 million. I appreciate it. With a total of 262 million. Correct. You mentioned a figure of 1. 5 and 3 million. Is that our portion of cuts, for lack of a better semantic word . Correct. So the rubbings of rubbing is 2. 5 of the departments general budget. The remainor, about 50 or 60 million, which is what thats taken off of, so thats our original request for 1. 5 million. These figures that youre bringing for the projected figures are about the same projects figures as we were using last year. This year is similar to last years request. All right. As an individual, in terms of the commission, but as a commissioner with the rest of our colleagues here, i can understand and digest 1. 5 and three mill because that was similar to what the scenario was last year. I know were in a quote, unquote, robust economy and have been. I know theres some talk of budget and deficit, which i dont take lightly, as well. I know that deficits will occur, but i have a tough time of reacting in terms of what that number is, because if i just kind of react or i project, those numbers can get real, real large. And as i look at numbers that are less than what i project in my mind, i have a tendency that oh, that doesnt seem to be that bad or projected. Honestly, commissioners, when i see an 8 million rejected, fiscal 1819, and 173 million for 1920 fiscal year accumulated, i can understand that. I dont im going to use my vernacular. I dont get shookup on it. Because that 88 million, it seems like a better number than ive seen previously. I remember the years under mayor newsom, when we dealt with deficits budget year after budget year after budget year. Im not going to say that im used to the process, but the budget process started with the our office and the Mayors Office and instructions. So when i hear instructions of no more spending, i take that to heart. I understand the need of grant writers, and i understand the need of other areas within the department, but i also understand, and this is just me and my expression, other areas of need within the department havent even come close to fully funding beyond trying to get us into a full professional working Fire Department, and i know that these are words, and i know that were trying to protect ourselves to be a modern, Effective Department or, as in some ways, a department for the 21st century. I know that. Its just a matter of how do we get to that is my particular question. I only say that again because when the Newsom Administration and the deficit affected us, theres a tendency, depending on who it is, for us to take one side or the other side. I know that we, as a Fire Department, are advocating for ourselves straight up. When someone gives an instruction no new hires or everything rejects, i know it doesnt sit real well with us, but id rather be in control of our budget from this point forward, whether its a projected deficit or other accumulated concepts. Again, as the president said, i am for grant writers, as well, if we can be able to project that. Its just a matter of if we can, and i understand the advocacy that youve made, commissioner covington, for years, and i support that. Its just a matter of when well be able to do that. I must say that i get a little confes queasy when i look to the federal government for resources. Maybe its because of the current administration, but i do know there are grants in certain foundations. I do know if we had the resources to seek out those funds, we would benefit from that, but im not sure how much dollars accumulated over years or time, because grants in my experience are usually one time or one time with two years or a presentation of justification. So if the concept is we cant get a staff budget within our city of grant writer, i. E. , perhaps theres other measures in the department that we can do in terms of seeking out some kind of area of resources for that, so thats just my point on that. Again, i dont know if it makes much sense to director kr orso as i express myself, because theres a lot of things, and im not done yet. Ms6, commissioner and i understand the comment where it came from, but ems 6, to me, is our program. Were the ones that created it. I understand how the department or the department of health or the city needs to deal with the homeless issue or car booting in general, but ems 6, as i understand it, was again, a formation of our department under our services to directly look at a targeted population for given effects of our operation in terms of helping a citizen out. I think the departmental excess is a departmental pilot project, but no longer do i regard it as a pilots program. I regard it as a program thats working in conjunction with the other programs in the city, i. E. , accumulated the Navigation Center or the alcohol dry center, but they have to Work Together within that. So i understand the concept of having accumulated or enough resources of dollars to do our job correctly. I understand that, and i support that. Being on the commission for a number of years, i remember when we, the Fire Department for the term was merge Ambulance Services from the department of health to our Fire Department. There was a lot of thinking and constants behind that, but we didnt have a lot of resources with that. Through the cumulative years of our services with ambulance and ems services. 20 years now, chief gonzales, i think it is. Yes, sir. I think weve done a pretty good job in terms of handling where were at now, with the kind of service. I think weve learned a lot. I think we know what were doing, and i think the directors and that expertise, within that resource, perhaps thats the justification that we might be able to make in terms of dollars. Maybe not all dollars that supports the system, but dollars that are projected for the future Services Needs within the city and county through Ambulance Services. So i know im rambling a little bit within that, but these are just kind of some of the points that i want to make because i know through the process of timelines, we have a deadline among ourselves. I snknow weve got a working committee. I know weve got to meet, and then, the process occurs. I do respect your comments, commissioner covington, in terms of the grant writers, and i do understand clearly, your commissioner veronese, in terms of making sure we have the adequate funds in our department. It is the process that were talking about. So again, i just wanted to comment on that and not lessen the stress and strains of what were going to be facing as a department and as a city. If y thank you, mr. President. Thank you, mr. Vice president. Commissioner hardeman. Thank you, mr. President. Ill try to be brief. As we all know, you have family roots in the Fire Department. You chose to work in the office and not out in the field, so we know your hearts in the right place. The confusing part, and i keep going over this every year so this Fire Department is ordered to keep the stations open as full staffing all the time. Thats the biggest part of our budget. So when it says 2. 5 , 2. 5 has co got to come from a lot of other places except where the largest portion of the budget is going. So how do you deal with that as a budget person for us as a financial officer, how do you address that because its really 5 in some respects because youre cutting so much from Everything Else. How do you deal with that or do you have a logical explanation . I mean, thats one of the difficulties, so the vast majority of our budget is dedicated to front line staffing, as you mentioned, and thats one of the issues that was brought up by a number of commissioners in the past. During the economic downturn, obviously, the cuts it would be much, much, more, and it was percentage wise in the past. But the problem was during the last recession, fortunately, we were able to keep open all of our station, but Everything Else is reduced, and were still recovering from that, whether its equipment, whether its facilities, those kinds of things, and its easy to say that, you know, we funded staffing at the stations, but to support that, theres so much more that goes into that, just the regular response, and thats where you get into the equipment, and thats where you get into kind of facility work and other supplies, and thats where, unfortunately, during the last downturn, thats what we cut. Fortunately, we have an equipment plan, we have some facility funding, so were maki making stripes to catch up to where we should be, but in no way does that solve all of our problems or our needs. Were constantly struggling, even in good times, and in bad times, as well. Well, the other question, mr. Corso, is the itch will i indications of station 49, if we had to cut 2. 5 , wed have to layoff three ambulance drivers, and i dont think anybody knows how many people work in San Francisco now, but if you look at the streets and the commute hours, you know its a lot of a lot of people working here, and that number is questionable. Who knows, and the tourists, and you have 35,000 hotel rooms that are, like, 90 occupied, so that number 1. 5 million every day. Yeah, so the estimate would come from the expert, boma. Thats part of their business is knowing that. I dont know if weve ever had this Department Staff to take care of 1. 5 million people. But any way, thats not your problem. Thats ours. So any way, thats just would there be a projection to layoff ambulance drivers or how would that work . I think the city has high day and night populations in history, and weve seen that in call volume thats continued to increase. So as weve done in the past few years, i think we would advocate for more resources on the ems side to battle that increase. Were seeing theres some projection on the fire side, but longer time when were talking about additional stations and Additional Resources to help kind of serve those new developments that are coming online, those are additional conversations were going to be having with the Mayors Office, but kind of with regards to the ems, were, as we do every year, taking a look at call volume, demand, and what our resources are, and well be asking for Additional Resources to keep up with the demand and serve our patients. But the 2. 5, that would be exempt, sort of like the stations are exempt. I think we would look at that globally and continue the discussions with the Mayors Office to meet the services that are demanded of us all over the department. cause our on time performance is remarkable now compared to what it was not too long ago, so wed hate to have a budget cut and reduce that. So that was good news. Im glad youre thinking positively, at least in that end of it. Thank you for your report. Thank you, commissioner hardeman. Chief gonzales, you had a comment . Ill try to keep it short, president. Thank you. This is about the budget, but i was going to try to circle back around to cd3. You can reprimand me, miss secretary, if i go off topic, but as far as the budget goes, i agree that friends of the San FranciscoFire Department, that should be resurrects, if possible. I know there are reasons why it did go away. I think refocus refocus. I think someone here lets use that smile. Lets use that smile to refocus. She could definitely help, and id just like to say a couple other words regarding some of the words that were said to cd3. We dont take it permanently against commissioner veronese. I dont take it personally. As far as what you said, commissioner hardeman, as far as the smile and no push over, she is definitely no push over. I am going to tell you, one day, i tried to push her over, and i dont recommend for anybody to try that at all. Congratulations, raemona. It was a great pleasure working with you. Thank you. Thank you. Vice president nakajo had a final comment. Yeah. In this budget discussion, in terms of where were at now and preparing, again, i cant help but acknowledge the support that mayor lee gave this department. Mayor lee gave this department a support to personnel, two classes a cleayear, what we we with the replacement list, when we went with the justification of ems 6, so when we Start Talking about our department, where we were and where were at now, were at now because of the support of mayor ed lee, and that department and worked with everybody to to have us in the position that were in now. And i think we all can acknowledge that were in a good, serviceable point at this point, with serving San Francisco, taking our job serious on all levels of our department, and so i just wanted to bring that up because its not like we havent been getting there. We are there, and we want to stay there, and we want to get better, so thats my point. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you, mr. Vice president. I have a couple of people okay. Go good. Couple of questions myself, but did you no, i dont. I dont. Okay. Dealing with the meeting dates, have you come up with a list of the meeting dates for the Budget Committee . Not yet. We should have that by the end of the week. Okay. Please share that. Absolutely. And then any materials that are distributed, share that with all the commissioners. Absolutely. A couple of us will attend these meetings, but i think every commissioner here is interested in the budget process and what the various recommendations are from the participants on the committee. I see that you need a january 10th Capital Equipment budget. You know, have you put that together already . Is that something you can share or will share with the commission, our request for Capital Budget . Absolutely. We have a few meeting coming up over the next couple of weeks, we will absolutely share in advance of the meetings for review. I know theres certainly i. T. Improvements and other were looking at marine unit, potential, you know, improvements there that we need to fund. A lot of stuff, so just wondered if there were Additional Capital expenditures that we needed to request. So in general sorry to interrupt you. In general, capital refers to facilities. Just facilities. And then i. T. Is Technology Related projects and equipment is equipment funding. So no staffing increases, per se, thats part of our overall budget. Were on those three separate tracks. Are we still on forward to having two classes next year as well as our equipment program. So last years budget process approved two years, which is the year were currently in, and then, the next year, which is also the first year of that process, and in that process was approved the hiring plan continuation of the hiring plan and the equipment plan, and those were, of course, mayor lees initiatives and Funding Initiatives from the department, so they have not been continued into the second budget year yet because that budget year has never been up for discussion. But that would sort of be a legacy of his. From the Mayors Office, the comment has been that, but any changes, well keep you appraised of them. When you talk about the set asides being 30 of the citys overall budget, does that include the prop f set aside . So my understanding is yes, that is also included there. Ill confirm with the Mayors Office on there, but thats the data that they provided, mainly the ones provided from the ballot initiatives, across those lines. So keeping our stations open across the city is roughly, what, a 200 million annual expense . I would say approximately thats the ballpark. Thank you very much, mark. Well look forward to continue to working with you on the budget and appreciate the work you put into it. Thank you, commissioners. Is there any comment on the budget presentation . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Madam secretary, would you call the next item. Item 8, commission report. Report on Commission Activities since last meeting of november 8, 2017. Is there any Public Comment on this item . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Commissioners do you have anything to report . Commissioner covington . Thank you, mr. President. I saw mayor lee last wednesday. There was a Small Business popup at city hall for Small Businesses in San Francisco and for citizens to get to know more about some of the the Small Businesses that they may have not previously been aware of. And he was in the hallway. I was leaving, and he said oh, i see you bought some stuff, and i said yes. Yes, i definitely did. And he had his usual broad smile and chuckle, and he gave me such a warm greeting and a hug. And he said i know commissioner covington, youre always pushing for those academies. Every time i see you, you even if we just have a few moments together, you say, we need more academies, and i did support this department so so very well, and just was a delight to be around, whether you agreed with him or you didnt agree with him, when you were lobbying him. He was just a kind, wonderful person, and i will miss him tremendously, just as our civic father and as someone who held this department in such high esteem. Thank you, commissioner covington. Commissioner hardeman . Yeah, very briefly. You dont want to i mean, everybody hundreds of folks spoke yesterday on tv and radio about mayor lee, but the one thing i didnt hear was ferocious loyalty. When this commission had the finger pointed out it, rightfully so, by all unions, the variety of 798 and the rest of the ethnic unions, everybody was pointing the finger at us, and the chief. When mayor lee called us into his office, and there was a number of meetings like i said publicly, he blamed us, chief, and he blamed this commission, and he called us back. Hows it going . Hows the chief . Hows he doing . Is there something that needs to be fixed so we brought up all these things, and so did the chief. But the one thing he did was he never publicly blamed us. Privately, he chiued us oewed. There was very lengthy meeting, telling us what we needed to keep the performance, but what we needed, he just gave us, and the board of supervisors so thats the one thing i would say. This man was the most loyal person you could ever have as a friend. When our reappointments, commissioner some people were mad at us and some people were mad at the chief, he stood right by us, and there were some very good candidates that raised their hands that wanted to be Fire Commissioners. The mayor stuck with loyalty, and that is extremely commendable, and im extremely grateful that i was able to be his friend at least since the early 90s, and we used to call each other the railroasurvivor then, he was mayor, and i couldnt believe it. On a separate note, st. Michaelss day, november 21st, i became grandfather to little alexandra michelle. I became a grandfather, so thats my biggest news of last month. Thank you. Thank you, commissioner hardeman. Commissioner veronese. Briefly. When i met with the mayor back in april, it may have been march, and he asked me if i would join this commission, of course, i knew going in that this was something i really wanted to be a part of. The Fire Department has been an entire part of my life, whether anybody knew it or not. My grandfather was a huge part of the Fire Department. He used to come down and do lunches, and they embraced him, and it touched me. When i heard that there was an opening at this commission, i absolutely jumped on it. When i met with him in his office, we went through all the separate different issues, or he advised me of the different issues that were going on here at the department. And instead of asking me to address them specifically, he asked me to just be myself. He chose me for my values, not for what i could do specifically related to problems, even though that there were specific problems related to in the department that may or may not still continue that are related to my training as a civil rights lawyer and as a Police Commissioner and a state criminal justice commissioner. And so when he passed away two days ago, i thought to myself, this is very sad for the city to lose a leader like this, but i thought to myself, the best way to the defendant way to honor mayor lee is to honor him in the task that we complete in our service to this city. He was a servant to this city, and to ensure that as we do that on a daytoday basis, that we do that consistent with our values, and those values that he wanted or that he chose us for. And so my commitment to mayor lee, although he is gone in body, he will continue to live in spirit through me and the rest of the commissioners as his choice of commissioners to serve on this commission, this great department. And that will continue on and on and on as long as we are here. And thats the part that im excited about, because theres a lot that we can do as commissioners. This really is a lot that we can do as commissioners. Its not our job just to sit here and rubber stamp things that the department brings us. And im encouraged, and i look forward to that, and i look forward to work with every person in this room, getting to know you better, and i do that in honor and in memory of a good man, mayor lee. So that being said, i appreciate the opportunity to serve that he has given me, and i will continue to honor him in my service to this commission, to the department, and to the people of this city. Thank you, commissioner veronese. I couldnt have said it better myself. Thank you on behalf of the full commission. Madam secretary, would you call the next item. Item 9, correspondence, letter from anonymous, dated 111517. Is there any Public Comment on this item . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Any questions by any of the commissioners on this item . Commissioner veronese, i see your name here . Yes, no . That was from the last item, but im wondering why this is a is this correspondence item just an item in our agenda and so as people send correspondence to the commission, it appears here . Correct. You read it, right . I dont read anonymous letters, actually. I have made it my practice not to read anonymous letters, so if you are out there, and you want to send the commission a letter, put your name on it if you want me to read it. Thank you, commissioner veronese. Commissioner hardeman, you had a comment . Very briefly, mr. President. No one i might have missed it. Did we decide not to discuss anything about the drones or just just draft policy was presented to us, but we didnt get into it at all. Chief francisco is out of town. So were going to hold off until chief francisco comes back next month . Good. Fine. That was it. Thank you. I must have missed that. Were going to have to get out of here by noon, so madam secretary, would you call the next item . Item 10, agenda for next Fire Commission meeting. Drone policy. Are there any Public Comment on this item first . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Commissioners, do you have comments on the future agenda . Future agenda could be presented at your choice of time. I talked to chief gonzales and chief white, for lack of a better definition, a presentation by the dive team that might include surf rescue or cliff rescue. It might include rescue one, rescue two. As i understand it, its a collaboration when it comes to dive teams or training, it might guarantee chief gonzales the Training Department or support services. Im just looking for the best kind of comprehensive presentation to this commission so that we can be educated as to the goings on and the training and equipment and functions of this unit, for lack of a better term, the dive team or rescue team, chief gonzales . Well work with the rescue team to fill in whatever slot is available. Thank you skbl and i also have the dem coming in to present on the Early Warning system. We had a suggestion to do an update or a presentation on the strategic plan. We have the budget, and we also have a closed session settlement, and its a morning meeting, so we need to be out by 12. Thank you, madam secretary. Commissioner veronese, would you like to add something on the future agenda . I second the motion on commissioner cascio on the dive team. I prior well, prior to next meeting i second it, but i amend the thought when that item comes before the commission, whether its the next meeting, it should be a meeting further out so that we have the opportunity not only to learn more but also to perhaps even visit so that we can see for our eyes, but when that comes up before the commission, i would ask that that not only comes up for discussion but possible action. Second, the drone policy, im pleased that it was a part of at least its a part of the packet, is that right . So this is a Public Document now. It is a yes. All right. So the draft of the general policy. Its on the web side under agenda packets. Great. Its now a Public Document, and it needs a little bit of work in my opinion, but if this is an issue thats important to you, we want to hear it, so when you see it on the agenda, please let us know. If you are an agency or an entity that has a stake in this, send us a letter. Put your name on it, and and thats it. So i look forward to making progress on that particular issue. Thats it for me. Thank you, commissioner veronese. Commissioner covington. Thank you, mr. President. I would just like to refer my fellow commissioners to page 9 of mr. Corsos document that was distributed to us this afternoon. The special meeting that may be called if necessary, again, page 9, february the week of february 15th to february 20th. I think it would be prudent to have the Commission Secretary poll the commission as to what days might work just in case we need that meeting. I schedule my travel around these meetings. Ive never missed a commission meeting, so i would like to know in advance if, you know what days to block out in case its needed. Thank you, commissioner covington. Thank you. Well try to do that. I think we need to put in a future closed session our review of the chief. That has to be on the agenda. We still havent received instructions, well, from the hr and the mayors well, put that on the list, and of course, the department physician. We have to do those two evaluations, and i think well have the election for Commission Officers probably the second meeting in january , if that works for everybody. All right. I am going to defer our closed session existing litigation issue until our next meeting. We might be able to get it done. You think we can get that done in five minutes . All right. Well, well make an effort, then. Is our attorney here . Item 11, possible closed session regarding existing litigation. Any Public Comment on this item . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Were going the Public Comment would be to go into closed session. Exactly. Are we going into and the litigation. Commissioners, whats your pleasure. So moved. We are now back in open session. The time is 12 11. Item 12, report on any action taken in closed session as specified . California Government Code Section 54957. 1 a and San Francisco administrative code section 12. 1 b. Well, in consultation with our city attorney, the commission has accepted the recommendation to settle on the existing litigation of duckett versus city and county of San Francisco. It was a unanimous decision. Item 13, vote to elect whether to disclose any or all discussions held in closed session as specified in San Francisco administrative code 67. 12 a . Is there any Public Comment on whether we disclose or not . Seeing none, Public Comment is closed. Commissioners, whats your pleasure . [ inaudible ] i have a motion, not to disclose, second from commissioner hardeman. All in favor . We shall not disclose. Item 14. Adjournment, again, in the oh, sorry. I would just like to, in the name of our departed mayor, ed lee, whom we all loved and all knew well, adjourn this Fire Commission meeting today. This meeting is adjourned. Thank you. Good morning. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I want to welcome you back to the regularly scheduled budget and finance committee meeting. Im Supervisor Malia Cohen and to my right is supervisor chang and our vice chair yee will not be here and so well take that without objection. Thank you. Okay, moving on i want to recognize also sfgovtv, t