Alternatives did you examine how many what the reduction of beds would be if we for example doubled the funds for a pretrial diversification or Diversion Program we cant take any more clients and put out of our county jail system. Supervisor i cant speak to that ill redirect it. As it relates specific to the matter of pretrial drefrgs or diversion their funding stream one of the things ill point out will young from the pretrial diversion will be here to speak in detail about that topic but rest assured im sure theyre operating at full capacity and their definitely operating at full capacity and if we decrease the funds they could take on more inmates if we examine what funding for example the pretrial diversions for the pretrial inmates what the reduction would be in if we examined that. As stated will young will speak to that. Were you able to will was not part of the study of the alternatives. One thing ill offer to you in that context is that funding for pretrial trial a half of that funding and the other eligibility requirements for people to pretrial theres assessments to determine who meets the requirement and who does. May question there is are a number of individuals in our county jail giggle for pretrial but pretrial didnt have Adequate Funding if we fully funding user funded the Diversion Program and the Public Defenders Office is doing do we examine that reduction in the number of beds when we study those 3 alternatives. Understood supervisor i pointed out earlier it is i was here 8 percent incarcerated are incarcerated for serious felony charges what types of additional people are eligible for pretrillion is open for discussion independent of the discussion. Lets say we go by the maker whether youre a treat to the Public Safety which i dont believe the standard is determined but but even there are 12 percent we can look at that perhaps maybe could have an alternative being in the community and not cost our taxpayers a burden by housing them in the county jail but the preservation of no bail is 44 percent i think the number is larger than that i know of individuals not able to afford bail not there for a Violent Crime and no theatre to Public Safety so we didnt examine whether or not the fully funding other programs reduce the beds in the alternative that are presented here today. The Sheriffs Department has detailed data some of that data was procedure and supervisors you had rest assure well provide that tomorrow youll have detailed information about a breakdown of the bail status of all inmates currently incarcerated in the county jail. So i wanted to point out i appreciate that i know youve been working closely with our office along with the stakeholders and i appreciate that but i wanted to point out then that that wasnt statute in the alternatives so we know dont know being we didnt take the factors into account thank you. Supervisor mar. I wanted to thank a number of the departments for coming to the Committee Meeting a few weeks ago and audience members for attending that meeting that was transferred to the gao for later in week and thank everyone for presenting my office with a lot of the questions we had i wanted to start by saying too that i would have hoped there would have been oath alternative from one of the last slides that look at how we can potentially reduce the inmate population to the one thousand that sheriff said he would back off on the 40 million jail rebuild if the population dropped below one thousand inmates so the pretrial Diversion Program the Mental Health programs in the community with the leadership and the Substance Abuse could continues the trend of reduction i know the Controllers Office has mentioned it is leveling off but really San Francisco value type of programs that can help us reduce the population im interested as this move forward while the iron is hot before the august 28th deadline were looking at alternatives to not expand the jails but to potentially rebuilt the parts especially c. J. 4 and 3 that are needed i wanted to appreciate to deputy chief friedman and the others to take me and my staff around to the hall of justice we looked at c. J. One and two and 4 and went to san bruno to see the pod shaped 4 and 57 but seeing from those photos the challenges of turning a facility into something that many from the critical resistance homes not jails in the coalition is saying it could be done im prevalent of the efforts to bring me and my staff up to speed on this i feel strongly we should be looking as supervisor kim mentioned another alternatives to the 3 that were proposed earlier i wanted to say from joe robisons questions to follow up on supervisor kims points about health im wondering is the new rebuild proposal will it have new recreation or exercise facility in that tiny spot of hall of justice the proposed spot supervisors yes. The reason for the facility to bring forward the type of facility we require to the modern era weve sdrind as derelict so providing the proper facility that is supportive and does not sdpish the violated as the current facility does in the interest in the city what we intend to is through the design of the facility wards to the supportive Problematic Service which is recreation and the related spaces. I just wanted to ask so it is about lets see the total cost with 80 million in state funds is 240 million but the other slides was another figure. It was the 5 hundred and 12 beds the 2 hundred and 40 is the total project costs for the 2 hundred plus and so i get my figures right is an average of 17 to 40 percent of Mental Illness people incarcerated but 14 percent have serious Mental Illness. And it addresses the serious Mental Illness in the jails. Thats hundred and 70 people in the jail and correct depending on the daily population. And the critical resistance invested in people not in prisoned reports shows a percentage of people are Substance Abuse. It about 80 percent 80 percent with Substance Abuse. Of general population. And then about 14 percent with serious mentally ill. 14 percent with mentally ill there is 88 or 89 Substance Abuse with the coins with the Mental Illness. And supervisor jane kim was talking about the serious crimes that couldnt be released into Community Types of programs do you know what the percentage is from our data. From the mentally ill population. Im assuming some with Substance Abuse crimes that are not a treat to communities but some numbers given by the presentation but do you have a sense of the im trying to understand the incarceration programs that people can be diverted to instead of incarceration to reduce the jail population. Im sorry i dont know the number i can address some of the alternatives to the incarceration that the department provides if you like. That would be helpful. So theres a few places that Police Officers can choose to take people instead of going to jail this is a prebooking and for the disorder programs the Sobering Center for people with Mental Illness that are in crisis they can go to the door urgent care units which is again a 24 7 and thats for people that dont meet the ccii criteria it voluntary 5150 and monday through friday down the street Police Officers can drop individuals there they can receive treatment either there or have a bridge to get into Community Programs at 1380 Howard Street it the assess center and Police Officers moped through friday 8 to 5 can drop individuals there this is many collaborative courts and the behavorial court is one thats one of the best programs we have in getting mentally ill people out of custody into appropriate treatment there is also the drug court and theres a drug you Court Treatment program it is adjacent to the half hours a Justice Center on polk street those are ways that people once theyre in the criminal Justice System can get out to get into treatment and followed by the court jail reentry works to get people into Treatment Programs i image as of a month ago there was 37 individuals that were waiting in inside the jail to get into a drug Treatment Program people with misdemeanors in compton to stand trial and at this time there was one individual that was waiting to get into a Community Program i think that felony were waiting to get a bed on the felony side of the hospital i think there were two murray converts their felonies that have been at the State Hospital the State Hospital said those individuals will not be competent to stand trial and if theyre determined dangerous we need to get them into a safe Treatment Program i think there were 2 im looking tonya what was the current director so she said the number went up it goes up and down depending on the availability of State Hospital beds how quickly the State Hospital can get the beds and the ability to get the beds. Thank you. I want to say to the chief and others especially in c. J. 4 to you dangerous for inmates a lack of any meeting space the visitation area but it was really like night and day i saw Charter School so i definitely know that c. J. Three and four need to be rebuilt but i have a concern not to expand the jails were looking at making them more humane but if we took the if he were approved while the iron is hot before august 28th and got the 80 million in state funding are we obligated to take on other inmates if we have too many beds were continuing to reduce our prison population and have more beds it seems like were setting ourselves up for a jail for rent. I appreciate the question the answer no, that cant happen that will not happen as a matter of fact, there is language in the proposal that says that cant happen no intent in San Francisco to do that one thing it is important to point out youve articulated very clearly that you dont want to say an expansion of the county jail it is important to say were not talking about an expansion of the county jail as a matter of fact, were talking about a reduction in the county jail 8 hundred and 28 beds currently in the hall of justice county jail three and four and the proposed rehabilitation facility at 3 hundred and 84 beds a significant reduction in jail beds and thats as a result of many of the things youre talking about we also hold dear alternatives to incarceration Pretrial Services one of the things i didnt point out earlier i have the chief Deputy Sheriff from the Programs Division here to answer questions but on any given can i in the city and county of San Francisco our count in alternatives to incarceration maybe equal to that thought incarcerated population ive seen it before it run next neck and neck if there were 12 hundred people in custody there was 12 hundred people in some form of alternatives so we dont leave any stone unturned we run the full gambit i wanted to point that out. I know we dont have sheriff meshing with us from the population drops to one thousand hell drop of support of the new building of the jail facility can you talk about that. I wasnt present for any comments and obviously you understand the context that means everybody every everything i can talk about the situation what it is today and remembered you that the rfp is in 2020 if you looked at what the jail count was today in 2020 county jail number three and four will be completely shurld we would hope and seismically in the half hours and county jail 6 will be anybody delipidated at this point and if only can quietlys 2 and 5 being in service well need to get sheriff in lamdz on speed dial thats a real situation so the rock and retention facility addresses a needs not only for the county jail but for the Public Safety in the year 2020 a thank you very much everyone for all the answers. Supervisor kim. I wanted to followup on a couple of supervisor mars question this was his question about whether the proposed facility does include the recreational areas i wanted to ask again does that include the outdoor exercise areas for inmates as i mentioned this is one the requirements required by title 24 and where actually and how large. Supervisor good question were well aware of minimum jail standards as outlined in title 24 i can tell you a couple of things the first being currently in the San Francisco will county jail all the inmate recreation space is inside. It is allowable. It is we passed inspectors with flying colors and reached out to the state and asked questions as it relates and what were proposing in terms of inmate recreation in the r d f it meets the state requirements under title 24. What exactly is in the proposed r d f how many i how much insider recreational. Each pod has its own recreational space as model from the county jail 5 facility. It is aligned with county jail 5. Thats correct question i want to follow up on that supervisor mar asked sorry i cant find that i wanted to go back to dpw this week and ask ms. Robison some questions thank you for being here i am really concerned about how we address Mental Health images in San Francisco increasing incarcerations has an answer to Mental Illness issues across the country stanford came out with a report asking whether prisons when do brivenz Public Comment acceptable miscellaneous facilities i know you talked about what depending has i want to hear our thinking about whether or not there are more inmates if we can fund the facility for dpw the secure component what other alternatives rather than the jail environment for people that are handling Mental Illness issues. It would be a Court Decision whether or not those inmates a cant be released from incarceration but treatment they can be treated in community and its mites bleeflg there needs to be treatment in a jail because people unfortunately people b with Mental Illness get incarcerated at a higher rate than people without Mental Illness that needs to be conditioned their stabilized in jail and taught how to be in a community Treatment Program so we can have success in program we dont want them to be recidivist so step down to out of custody and Community Treatment a viable option again with the court saying who can and cant be in the communicated. Right i imagine the courts law students r lubricants the option and maybe we can rethink some of the programs for the components of in between the Community Facility and a jail yeah youll have to look at the licensing requirements some people in the community dont need a locked facility so look at the medical night in community we can get medical reimbursement as long as they need the care. Were paying outofpocket for the medical Health Services we could get reimbursed were leaving money on the table again with our city when there are alternatives i should ask what is helpful in providing Mental Health services in the Community Versus our jails thats a direction we want to see a reduction in the number of inmates that are struggling with Mental Illness disorders what would that take not necessarily our opinion by this board said we want to see a dramatic reduction whats it alternative look like. It will probably take more residential treatment in the community and again i dont know whether in the dpw or a combination of dpw and the Sheriffs Department i dont know we are in the Outpatient Services we serve people that come to the Outpatient Clinic and people that leave custody especially with those who are mentally ill and homeless. Ill have more questions well examine that but that is a big issue not only for San Francisco but our country the National Alliance of Mental Illness has recorded anywhere between 25 to 40 percent of our citizens that are struggling with Mental Health go what some point can we contact the incarceration we know that 45 percent of our prison meetings inmates with treated clearly a link between having all of us know individuals in the family or friends that are struggling with Mental Illness that is given the conditions theyre struggling with i really building we need to address that population adequately i think our prison system is stressful and difficult for people that are hundred percent mentally healthy even being in a nice jail how stressful for individuals struggling thank you. Supervisor tang. Thank you. I had questions regarding the jail population and the number of beds i dont know who is the best person to answer that so if youre presentation it says the daily average boxes is that 6 people in terms of the beds in the entire system how many beds are currently full. To give you the breakdown of the county jail system it is not one facility but several facilities that make up the county jail system in county jail one the in take for arrives and depafrpdz to the county jail only no beds in that facility a Holding Capacity of 2 hundred and 94 but holding yales only county jail number 2 on 7th street it as 4 hundred and 64 beds county jail 4 on the floor finds hall of justice has 2 hundred plus beds and county jail in san bruno 7 hundred and 68 by these beds todays jail count is 4 hundred plus one of the things that youll hear when you talk to people in corrections whether state yales or penitentiaries in 8 jail population forecasts this that were done the jail clarifications factor it is important it is essentially thrills is that and there are many differences of opinion about what the number is 5 Percentage Points either way but generally speaking when a jail system is at 80 percent capacity it is fuel the 15 percent jail vacate rate is a number you need to hours our populations. So, now with the revised numbers that are clearly gone down i appreciate you you know all the various departments working with the board and working with the colleagues about the desire for a smaller jail population do you feel that the vacancy rate with the studies i guess the i know on this shatter you show the jail population is leveling off do we propose for this actual rebuild overall in the desire system will be adequate for 2020 a well, i do supervisor and i think weve worked the Sheriffs Department since 2008 has worked collaboratively and cooperating with the city family with multiple city agencies working on in this project and in the rfp that we seek support of sb 863 we romanced a 8 hundred plus bed while i dont have a crystal ball to talk about 2020 and beyond i feel comfortable that 3 hundred and 84 beds puts us where we need to be. Okay. Okay. Colleagues any further questions for staff mr. Rose, can we go to your report on item 2. Yes. Mr. Chairman, and members of the Committee Supervisor kim on page 9 of our report we stated that the proposed resolution authorized the city to Million Dollars in the sb 8 to fund the g l replacement