This night the Israel Defense forces conducted a tank raid in the north of the gaza strip, representatives of the armed forces reported this, the target was hamas infrastructure, now the military has already left the enclave, the ministry of health of the gaza strip states that since the beginning of the conflict , more than 6,500 people have become victims of israeli attacks. Sergei lavrov will speak today at the International Conference on security in eurasia. It starts in minsk. The head of the Russian Foreign policy department arrived in the republic. Nakano has already met with his belarusian colleague. Mikhail mishustin in kyrgyzstan, the Prime Minister takes part in a meeting of the council of heads of government of the sco countries, discussing cooperation in trade, economic, cultural and humanitarian and other areas. The results will be reflected in the joint kamennik. And now on the air on russia 24, the fifth studio program. Yes, sasha, thank you, and lets naturally concentrate on one of the topics that have just been briefly outlined, namely the situation in the middle east and how, in particular, other countries approach the possibility of resolving this conflict, which frankly, very. Many are now seeing, in particular turkey, the day before, the president of turkey, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, proposed here are several options for how this can be done, convene a middle east conference, firstly, of course, where all interested parties will be gathered, and secondly, speak out, he stated that turkey itself is ready to do this, but called on other countries to also act as a guarantor of security, including well, heres another one of those statements that were made, in fact, they are quite harsh regarding israel, from the series of what many would probably like to say, but somehow dont dare, erdogan called for a ceasefire , Hostage Exchange between israel and hamas called on the countries of the world to refuse any assistance to israel now so that the conflict does not escalate further, at the conference we already. Spoke as a guarantor country, erdogan criticized israel, canceled his visit to the country, there was an even harsher statement done, all planned visits by turkish officials to israel must be canceled because netanyahu, quote, has abused his goodwill. Now were talking about turkeys position, of course, and about relationships in general, now there s a decision in the pipeline, permissions the middle east conflict, we will talk to us about communications, vladimir avodkov. Doctor of political sciences, head of the department of the middle postsoviet east ion, professor of the Diplomatic Academy of the Russian Foreign ministry, vladimir alekseevich, we welcome you, good afternoon, good afternoon, let s just go through the points here, Recep Tayyip Erdogan calls for convening a peace conference on the middle east , in your opinion, this is what could solve this, just recently i was in egypt, for example, the same eu countries represented by their Foreign Ministers were also recently they also gathered and could not decide anything about what to do, the turkish leader offers his own option, maybe just convene on turkish territory . The turkish leader always offers his own option, and this fits into the turkish Foreign Policy ideology, within which turkey sees itself as a hub, a center of gravity, which must go through all paths, including negotiations. Erdogan wants key issues to be resolved with turkeys help, with turkeys participation and preferably. As far as this goes, its another question, but the very fact of the desire to make a contribution to show responsibility for the fate of the world, this is very important, yes, this fact is very important, while it is obvious that the situation in the middle east is largely at a dead end, this is the result of a thoughtless american policy of intervention. In the region and what we are now seeing, erdogan said, addressing israel, the west owes you a lot, he said, turkey owes nothing, this is a very important phrase, the point is that we know about the holocaust, about these terrible crimes that were committed against the jews, in fact, turkey says that the west should, but not turkey, why should the countries of the region, so to speak, have problems because of. What the west did in general, this is a very important and interesting statement with on the part of erdogan, which was voiced against the backdrop of this Peace Initiative , that is, on the one hand, erdogan shows that turkey is ready to resolve the situation by peaceful means, although it is clear that its patience is false; in general, erdogans statement demonstrates that the patience of turkey, like all regional players are running out, in general, such a neat, i would say, restrained position, which demonstrates. No one could predict, in many ways this speaks of the maturity of these political regimes, that they are not ready to be guided by the emotional, rationally dominates, of course , everything here has its limit, obviously, with increasing pressure from israel, or especially the United States, the countries of the region will unite among themselves, so to speak, fight israel with the United States , in general, as a result of thoughtless policies the west, here a situation may arise that the west as a whole , the french and the british have already gone there, a very interesting situation may arise that all the countries of the region will unite again under the slogan that has already been, lets throw israel into the sea, another phrase, very remarkable erdogan, he said ozrael, you cant get away with such fraud, even if you are the United States, because. america will also lose. This phrase by erdogan is fundamentally important. First, he explained to israel that it is necessary to work with the countries of the region, and not with those countries that are very far away. First of all, it is possible and necessary to conduct dialogue at the level of the regional subsystem of International Relations. Well, secondly, what came out of erdogans mouth especially clearly was that america will lose. The turkish republic understands that the world is moving towards a polycent. Will not be simple, it will be a very complex, completely new stage in the system of International Relations, within which countries will either learn to take into account each others interests, or will be immersed, immersed in the regional and, god forbid, not the global conflict. Vladimir alekseevich, here is a system of polycentrism, we probably see how it is now being born, and like many systems, these are all births. Is happening in a very difficult time with very difficult methods, which many now see elements of the third world war , you yourself said that on the side of israel, yes, for example, france, great britain, which is doing, of course, just some. Then cannibalistic statements regarding the fact that thats all, well, in fact, in direct words, that there are no People Living in the gas sector at all, and so on, we heard from politicians, and the arab world, now you also know, opinions differ, some say that this can really lead to this, some say that the arab world will retreat in this case, in your opinion, the position of turkey, right now, which was expressed by the leader of this country, speaks of what, the first or maybe the second scenario, well, firstly, really now born. A new world order and it is born without weeds through such quite serious torments, this has always been the case throughout history, new systems of International Relations were born after wars, i would like to assure that in this case we will go through a series of regional conflicts, after all, the world will not go into another world war in the physical plane, yes , as for the statements that we hear, they are amazing, amazing, first of all, from israel, which has gone through a lot of trials in history, the jewish people, to hear a statement that people need to be wiped off the face of the earth, its very sad, and well a from the west, i would say this is common, because for the west, the destruction of people is the norm, lets remember what they did in afghanistan, er, in libya, they tried to do in syria, that is , there is nothing new in this regard, as for who will retreat there and will not back down, this is a game on the edge, yes a game on the edge, uh, and if someone crosses this line, if a match breaks out, then no one will seem to be, uh, today arab. Today the islamic world, today iran and turkey is not what it was in 1973, the situation has changed dramatically, and iran and turkey have completely different weapons, so this must be taken into account, because everything could end very, very badly. Vladimir alekseevich, after all, the position of the turkish leader is now on the one hand, he shows israel in his person, the entire collective. So lets say, yes, in principle, in direct words it is enough , saying that we must stop supplies, military assistance, in particular to israel, that the United States is here, and israel will not win and will not be able to do this, with on the one hand, he really shows his attitude to the collective west, saying that he is canceling all his visits to israel and actually prohibiting all other turkish politicians from doing so. On the other hand, we recently saw how the kakurtia approved swedens application to join nato, this is a contradiction, or this wellknown eastern wisdom works here, or something, this eastern way of conducting politics, yes, that is such a certain duality, cunning, uh, yes, yes, dmitry, the turkish doublechair works here, the classic one, the turkish republic has always tried to be between and, in fact, it uses its geopolitical, geostrategic position. Turkey is between, it is between the west and the east, between the north and the south, it is between the usa and russia, it does not want to argue, this is very important, today it is trying to form its own independent center of power, this is very important, this is what. So to speak, no one expected anything from her before, but today, in recent years, she has been quite is successfully pursuing this policy, there is nothing unexpected in this regard, turkey has been and will be between, as for joining nato , sweden, of course, erdogan knows how to surprise, i would say, and before that he spoke out very sharply and harshly, which means the swedes do not they respect islam, and now bang like this, right . There may be a lot of explanations here, one of them including the fact that now this, now this document has gone to parliament, and Parliament May not approve it, but here is another question, alekseevich, yes, it is clear that parliament can approve it , indeed, but here the problem is in the approach that the islamic world, lets say, determined, naturally, and this was to be expected, of ours. Just these countries of sweden, norway, where these monstrous acts of burning the koran took place , that is, can he lose some of the trust from, for example, the islamic world in this way . Of course, of course , here is a very important point, turkey has proclaimed three key vectors in its Foreign Policy, this is the postottoman vector, this is the turkcentric turkic integration and this is the islamic world. Of course, the islamic world looked with surprise at what happened and here, uh, there may be a very peculiar reaction to what turkey is doing, but in general, in this regard, the arab street is not surprising, because turkey often made such somersaults, but the conclusions are of course will be made regarding, yes , how to treat turkeys words, another question is that this could be, i repeat once again, a very big game, part of a big game with. Europe , part of a big game with the usa, sweden has already stated, which supports turkeys application to join the eu, maybe this is aimed at this , and so to speak, if turkey joins the eu, this means that the eu will join turkey, there may be a lot of, so to speak, unexpected reversals in this regard , and besides, turkey is playing for the long haul, it turns out, here yes, that is, it is looking at how, in what way the situation will really turn there now, and it can turn completely here. In unexpected ways, because we live, sorry, in unstable times and well probably, catching the situation is now a task that worries many countries, many politicians, and diplomatically as well. Head of the department of the middle postsoviet east inion professor of the Diploma Academy of the ministry of Foreign Affairs of russia was in contact with us, and now the chairman of the state Duma Committee on defense, andrei kartopololov, andrei valerievich, we welcome you, yes, good morning, andrei valerievich, you probably heard our dialogue now with vladimir alekseevich, we, in particular. Discussed the topic of whether it was possible or impossible, just recently the balkans were called a powder keg, but now we see in the middle east that not only the forces of israel and the arab world can collide there, but in general the power of, so to speak, the collective west and the arab world provoked in this way the conflict is much wider than it is now flaring up, in this regard, i would like you to comment on the phrase that was recently spoken by the United States of america, i dont remember who exactly said it, that the United States has enough strength to both conflicts i mean the one that is now flaring up in the middle east and the one that has been going on for a long time in ukraine, well , as for the United States, they have a lot of forces, but they are not infinite and not limitless, already now we see certain problems in the ukrainian direction. In particular, remember, in the spring, mr. Borey, in my opinion, stated that they would supply a million shells to ukraine, today they have delivered only 30 of this amount and continue to stall, moreover, the americans they brought almost all the cafeteria ammunition from their fruits there, so to say that they have enough for everything, this needs to be seen, but there is. There is also the problem of taiwan, lets not forget about it, of course for the United States, in general for it is extremely beneficial for the west today for the middle east to turn into a bloody arena, such chaos , where everyone is at war with everyone. Yesterday, by the way, our president , supreme commanderinchief vladimirovich putin, at a meeting with religious figures spoke about what is in the world forces that are constantly trying to play off in the middle east. Shiite muslims, sunni muslims, jews and others, this is beneficial for them, because during chaos, in this troubled water, they solve their own, such vile problems, controlled chaos, but mkhomsky, the whole book is of its time, so the statements of the americans are understandable, we hear them, but well see what they have enough for, that they didnt have enough of everything. We hear them, they hear us about the fact that just the day before russia stopped, or rather, canceled the ratification by law treaty, which is designed to, well, generally ensure strategic stability throughout the world, there was also news that came yesterday, maybe its just a followup to what the Federation Council canceled the day before. Ill quote, russia just received and is studying the us security proposal, although they were outlined by the United States on paper in the form of some kind of unofficial note, the note on the cuffs turns out to be deputy head of the Russian Foreign ministry sergei rebkov who said whether this means that the United States has somehow come to its senses and want to return to the conversation about strategic stability, or they have no time for it, now and. No, well, the United States is certainly concerned about its own security, they cannot be considered complete idiots, they are aware of their actions, they understand that russia is the one the country is the only one in the world that is capable of destroying the United States, therefore, of course, despite all these machinations, another question is what and how they want, because before this they practically dismantled everything related to arms control in the world and what was created over decades, after the second world war, they took turns withdrawing from one treaty, a second, a third, and some did not ratify, for example, which one . Here is the fact that the state duma adopted a law on revoking ratification, yesterday the Federation Council supported us in this , i believe the president will sign this law, this is our signal to our partners, the american ones, so that they finally start, come down to earth and start getting down to business , were responsible for the fact that the United States is a superpower, no one has it takes away, they must be all the more responsible about their responsibilities in the International Conservation arena. Only creating problems everywhere for almost everyone. Andrey valerievich, dont you think that this is precisely the essence of all the conflicts that are currently flaring up in the middle east, in particular, that the United States feels that this feeling is slipping away from under its fingers, or what . Uh, the world superpower of the world policeman, in the future, understanding this more and more, they will be more and more behave aggressively, well, there is certainly such a feeling, and in fact, what they are doing is within the framework of this conflict between israel and hamas, because this is essentially a rather narrow conflict, it is not comprehensive, not even regional. To the middle east, this is israels problem with the palestinian enclave of gas, but the United States is inflating it as much as possible, trying to involve more and more players there, forcing israel to strike on the territory of syria on the territory of lebanon, the Jordanian West Bank is ahead, and so on further, therefore, the americans, they act as always, and of course, they need. Well , to maintain their inflated image , such a tough guy who keeps everything under control, unfortunately, for americans, first of all, this is already far away not so, they dont keep a lot of things under control, and where they try to do it, the situation , on the contrary, comes under control, it all ends very very badly for them, yes, but here, of course, peace is that there is no such thing as pure regional conflicts, any conflict, it somehow involves very many sides, even if it flares up in a very small area, and we now see this very well, just using the example of the middle east, palestine and israel, andrey valerievich, thank you very much for being with us on our program today, andrey kortopolov , chairman of the state Duma Committee on defense, was a guest of the fifth studio, thank you for your attention. Its just plastic, and this is alpha pay. Freedom to pay the way its convenient for you with a smartphone, with a sticker or online, you decide for yourself. 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In the city where the search for the shooter is underway, the city hall is closing all municipal buildings and schools, about this. Local authorities report that any events that were planned for this day are cancelled. We were at the bowling club a normal evening, suddenly he walked in and there was a loud bang, i thought a balloon had burst, i turned around and realized it wasnt, a man with a gun in his hands, i crawled along the balloon ribbon and hid in the pin compartment, then i was able to get to of his car and hid there for about 10 minutes. The suspect, a fortyyearold firearms instructor and Us Army Reservist , robert card, spent the summer undergoing treatment at a psychiatric clinic; he complained to card doctors about voices that allegedly urged him to kill his fellow soldiers at a military base. Lewiston is a city with a population of about 40,000 people; its hospitals cannot cope with the flow of wounded; according to various estimates, up to 60 people were injured. Im not sure if our hospitals are coping . Now, under the supervision of the police, a Medical Center has been deployed for those who are not in serious condition, a helicopter has also been deployed to transport the wounded to other hospitals in our state, ambulances were called from cities 100120 km from here, now we are having a hard time. Authorities are asking residents of the area not to leave their homes if possible in search of hundreds of Police Officers are suspected to be involved, the tragedy in maine became the largest in terms of the number of victims in the case of a mass shooting in the United States this year. The whole of ossetia collects various kinds of donations and sends them to the front. Here you feel the price of life, stand aside. We have enough of everything, but the attention they give us is also very nice. I see and for every stitch i say , please stay alive, this is already becoming a talisman, i knit socks from yarn, at first we started with balaclavas, then stretchers followed, so we continue throughout to help for years, this machine belonged to my grandmother, everything is for the front, everything is for victory, so here. We work on it. The north military district has united the nation, everyone worries about those who are here and helps in any way they can. By my wish, by my wish, by my wish, i want to see the city, then go ahead i want winter to become summer, it worked out, wait, i want to marry the tsars daughter, thats another matter, thats just me , i just warmed up that the tsars daughters are my fish, at the pikes command, the defense army. Israel spent that night tank raid in the north of the gaza sector. This was reported by representatives of the countrys armed forces. The target was hamas infrastructure. It is known that the military has now already left. 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