The state to find an opportunity. So that they all develop more or less in the same direction, this attempt will be completely meaningless, even if we lets see, yes, of course, we see what we say, they are dying, gradually, slowly, modern ideologies are dying out, and there is liberalism, as we always say, liberalism, liberalism, liberalism, if classical liberals saw what their ideologies, modern liberals, have done, they would probably now do somersaults in their graves and they would simply be amazed. The extent to which this ideology has reached, although it was probably quite expected, there is already very little connection between them. Marxism takes on completely different shapes and flows into forms that do not solve the problem that stood then in the current conditions, it is already very difficult to determine what a means of production is, and what the proletariat is there in the modern world , this is also a big question, fascism is a forbidden ideology, thats why it is in official form. At least there is an International Community there, even if not does not try, must try to do so that it does not arise and does not acquire, which means, a dominant role in any state, and you see a special military operation in ukraine, in principle, these ideologies cease to exist, but does this mean that the whole world is now developing, some common universal ideology is emerging here or there, there is no universal ideology for them, we see that in islamic civilization, in fact, the pendulum. From uh, modernity, uh, has swung to a greater extent to side of traditional society, and we can observe this process in a very vivid way, we see that in the western world, the pendulum has actually swung towards this postmodern society, in the sense in which they understand it, that is, with the final destruction of the vertical of man, the destruction a person in the form in which we know him, and we now see, in fact we are a witness. Very interesting attempts to avoid this process, because the us president ial candidate, donald trump, already accompanies almost every second speech there quotes from the gospel, he says that this confrontation between believers, christians, and atheists is also quite expected, why, because in my opinion, modernity, you know, has two such dimensions, one of these dimensions is quite empirically felt, this is knowledge peace on. But as for the humanistic part, its just rhetoric, nothing more, and rhetoric can never have no alternative, it is not the only possible outcome of the development of a traditional society, and therefore, as soon as it became clear that this is rhetoric, she is beautiful, she is wonderful, she wants to see man at the center of everything and wants man to be the ruler of nature, the ruler of the whole world, but she makes his existence meaningless. And as soon as the world, which is created in this likeness, is embraced world wars, violence, the idea of man as a super being leads to the emergence of such horrific ideologies that lead to the death of millions of people, then humanity begins to look for ways out of it, either towards completely destroying man as such, or returning to the traditional one that is understandable to itself the world, to the traditional structure, i say this to the fact that the world will be much more complex than it has been for the last 30 years, and it will be even more complex than 45 years ago until 1990, it will be a world in which states within themselves will be very different from each other, their approaches and visions of World Development will be very different, and we obviously must be prepared for the fact that we are entering a period when our special military operation in. Ukraine is simply the first act of a very large, in my opinion, very unfortunately, very bloody confrontation, which. Humanity, because based on the events of recent weeks, it is obvious to me that there is no longer any International Law or principles, which are laid there, if there are no supports at all, then we are in a world in which force is decisive, if force is decisive, then now this balance of forces is being formed, and it will be formed subject to the use of such weapons that humanity has not yet known just. I wanted to return to the topic that we discussed a lot today, namely the topic of the United States and its policies. I completely agree that there is a deep crisis, and, so to speak, huge problems, and so on and so forth, but on the other hand on the other hand, there is another point of view that a lot of what we see are certain scenes, certain productions, because in fact there is a certain, so to speak, what is said deep state, or there is a deep state, and this deep state conducts its own policy , and consistently pursues its policy against us, and this war is designed to last for years, now analyzing the general situation with american politics in the world, slightly moving away from ukraine, where now, of course, they are focusing their main efforts, and where we started ours with mine points of view have overthrown almost all of their plans for the quiet strangulation of russia and so on, we generally move to other regions and see that they are extremely active there and extremely follow. They are pursuing their policy, im not even talking about the southern caucasus and armenia, there, one of the american emissaries, when he arrived there, said that this is our victory, that we have sought and are seeking the separation of armenia from russia, the withdrawal of russia from the southern caucasus, and this goal is already quite close, but further, if we go, we will see the same the most southeastern language that we, oh which was said so much yesterday, serious changes are also taking place there, and the main thing is that these are the last joint military maneuvers of the military. Of all asian countries, for the first time in history, you understand, this is a very big event, because the americans have always stood for asian, they always expected that it would be primarily a military bloc, and not an economic or political one, this is exactly how all this was conceived in bangkok in 1967 as a form of support for american aggression in vietnam, but osyanovts immediately said so they said no, we dont talk about the war at all, we dont talk about the military bloc at all, only economics, politics and, so to speak, the politics of consensus. The fact that today, to the applause of the americans, they carried out these maneuvers, while they said that it was there against natural disasters, that it was nothing, so to speak, but the fact remains that this is the first such test of the forces of unification, military unification, in the ocean countries, and it is absolutely clear that the United States is behind these maneuvers, obviously, because they are looking, they are trying to create a kind of military bloc out of the oceans and oppose it first of all. To china, this is a very big event, so to speak, but unfortunately, we are not talking about it very much now, besides, today there was a message that the islands where there will be new american bases in the philippines, these are samarleiths, that is, this is actually the east of the philippines, which also looks at china and the south china sea, so work is going on there and it is absolutely clear that they dont want to go to mendonanao, and there is a little mindonau there its scary, that is, they still remember that experience, well, of course, when they were clicked there terribly, yes, yes, yes, no, mindonau, so to speak, it is even more so mindonau purely geographically, now leyta and samara are significantly further north, they are closer to taiwan and china, this is too much this is practically deep Southeast Asia, this islamic population that hates americans is scary , yes, further, if we look, let me just remind you for our listeners. They dont know that the philippines is the largest catholic country in the Southeast Asia, where there is only a compact the residence of muslims is just that, there are several provinces there, yes, the second largest catholic country, by the way, is vietnam, in Southeast Asia, but you can even move away from Southeast Asia, where we also see these efforts, we see the results these efforts, because all these maneuvers are natural, american persuasion, this is all american talk about the chinese threat, all this is understandable. Also move towards these military alliances, which of course are in the interests of the americans, but lets look further at those countries that right next to us, you look at what is happening in mongolia, you look at what is happening in kazakhstan, yes, and we will see that here they continue to carry out very active work on, not to mention , they will help train prosecutors there. And so on and so forth, the reaction there has already unfolded in full, here, but we need to talk about central asia, there was a meeting there on september 19, cc5 1, that is, this is a meeting of all Central Asian states with the United States, they are with biden we met there, took pictures, in general, it was about diverse cooperation, both economic and political, and the broadest. So to speak, cooperation and business cooperation, but if we look even further, negotiations are now underway, a large american delegation was in kazakhstan and there they talked about the extraction of rare earth elements from deposits in karaganda in their deposits in the East Kazakhstan region there in podskagora, about this they said that representatives of the company had arrived, who, in principle, would do all this work, and i think that i was very timely. Mishustin in thailand, this was extremely important in kazakhstan, excuse me, it was extremely important , because now among the trading partners of kazakhstan, in the twentysecond year we traded for 26 billion, the chinese for 31 billion, the americans for 2. 2 billion, then there is, but on the other hand, there is also a very interesting situation here, direct investment from the United States, kazakhstan, according to their ambassador, is 62 billion dollars, our direct investment, this is the president. Some time ago he said 17 billion dollars, well its clear that the main American Investments are chevron, this is exxonmobile, these are these three , fields near the caspian sea, but there are a large number of companies there, moreover, a Nonprofit Partnership caseed has now been created there, yes, this is under esed, yes, which, so to speak , now has a status and is going to fight, so to speak, for so to speak , justice for democracy, for human rights throughout central asia, and from this point of view, it seems to me extremely important to Pay Attention to all these processes, because it is clear that this is not tomorrow it will be, but it is clear and can be seen absolutely clearly that the United States is actively working so that both mongolia and kazakhstan , ultimately, in some future, here, why am i talking about idip, its worth that this is. Not a momentary politics, its not tomorrow, when these people they are going to train, who they are going to work with, they will directly influence the government, no, but after some time it will be, we need to look very clearly, because Southeast Asia and Southeast Asia, but mongolia, with which we, our trade volume is also a record, we trade 2. 6 billion, the americans traded only 244 million, but again, you know, they work through promises, through investments, through invitations, grants, they work with focus groups , so to speak, the most influential groups, and practically it turns out that they have a kind of monopoly, you know, they implement the principle of our entrepreneurs, the cer bandits in the nineties, why buy an enterprise if you can buy a manager . Yes, absolutely. Thats why based on from this we can draw one very clear conclusion that there is a certain global strategy, and yes, of course, this strategy covers not only ukraine, where they are now concentrating the main forces, they are consistent, it covers the southern caucasus, it covers Southeast Asia, it covers both mongolia and kazakhstan, while there will be double success for them here, you know, if they succeed somehow, because russia and china are here, so i think that we should be here. Be extremely careful and especially as regards both kazakhstan and mongolia, these countries with which we have a thousandkilometer border, numerous ties, and we must clearly understand this american policy and build our own counterpolicy, which would stop and be an obstacle to the changes that they want, you wanted to add . Yes, i can only make one comment, everything, all this activity, all this Global Policy is based on one fact. We cant, we can, neither a dollar nor a ruble hinders us for this, what hinders us is the lack of understanding of what we want to tell them, we dont work sahalites, we have not developed any policy towards them, we do not offer them anything. Well, that is, as good neighborly relations, okay, they believe that the system of our relations with these countries is reminiscent of the system of spouses after a divorce, we consider ourselves guilty all the time, all the time. We do not have soft power institutions as such, and there is no funding for the project that the president is working on, the great eurasian partnership. If someone comes to do something, there is no money, there is always money, just for this purpose, for example, the same oil and Gas Companies can invest a little less in athletes with rocking thighs, and a little more in National Interests, about the fact that companies can invest in National Interests . So listen to what your president was talking about today, they are investing in their own pocket, only they are interested in ruining the economy of their country, please, so dont wait for companies to invest something in state interests, putin made it clear today that he can take them for their golden testicles, and putin just made it clear today that they can they can take for the golden eggs if they are forced . But they themselves will never give, about what andrei said , i completely agree about this sss surkov, i havent seen such an expression, intellectual, naive infantilism for a long time, and not literate, its hard to expect from such a person, as one can say, that in the north there is. Civilization and european civilization, are they different or what . This is the same thing, two versions of the same thing, and the future of russia is with them in the north, and i think that russia is from this naivety she has corrected herself, she has already gotten rid of the fact that her future is precisely in the west, precisely in alliance with these. Former colonial empires, in russia there was no such colonial thing as in russia, except for adhering to us, what in the future . Regarding china, i do not agree, there is no threat from china, russia should strive to be selfsufficient, just like china, china does not seek support from anyone. They are selfsufficient, they are building a country on their history, on their strength, on their talent, on their people, yes, they agree to enter in the community, mutual assistance, contact with everyone, well, basically china is china, and russia should strive for this, to reach the level of chinese selfsufficiency in relation to itself, russia has more data for this than china. Russia is richer, the people are more talented, more talented than the chinese, which means that something was said here in history, yes, russia had an excellent army, in the russojapanese war, and tsussima, that port arur, that heroism, yes, its an even greater shame , the army was always a problem in the crimean war, yes, the defense of sevastopol, and the corruption of these arms suppliers, because of whom the soldiers died, perished, without rifles, without chenilles, without food, they put everything in their pockets, this did not happen in the first world war, it was still like, a shell famine, because of what then . It turned out, because of these, when they put state interests depending on private entrepreneurs, they worked for their own pockets, and what happened, the russian empire, it collapsed because of the army, the tsars army betrayed him, the generals betrayed him, kornilov betrayed him ultimatum on the table pa. And when the soviet union collapsed, what did the army do . She stood on protecting what she pledged to protect with hers. The country was being destroyed under her hands, but what did they do . The only thing is that akhrumeev had the conscience not to see this, so the army must always defend the country, from the army, this is one of the main elites in the country, if it betrays the country, it will betray and we are talking about the soviet army, that is, the soviet army had to go against its leadership, who could have done this inside it, i just want to remind you of the state of the army at this moment, at this moment the army was betrayed, at this moment they wiped their feet on the army, at that moment people were ashamed of the fact that they took part in the afghan war, thats absolutely right, it was a moment when you didnt go with awards, when heroes werent buried, they were brought, what army could come out, the army was disintegrating, this is a mitigating circumstance, this is not softening wine, this is not the fault of the army at all, the conspiracy, as he said at the time , the whole people took part in the conspiracy against the country, this was the tragedy of the collapse of the soviet union, the general staff on june 22, forty years old, georgy konstantinovich, stalin lost faith in his commanders began to interfere. And he lost. What he saw on the battlefield, so this is not just one picture, suddenly , he was not a tyrant, well, he was not a tyrant, but let me remind you that he personally intervened in the decision on kiev, and his personal decision to intervene led to the fact that we had prisoners, he was not a great commander, but he lost faith in his commanders, well, this means that he accepted the appointment based on faith, and there were no others, which means he wasnt, wasnt, well, first of all , and it was, it was not, you increased the army three times, in a year and a half, where do you get it, but at the same time you deprived this army of how many commanders . What, how many, how many, these are wellknown statistics, we were talking about thousands, how many, what, we were talking about thousands, when we take what you say, yes, but only if you take the top command staff, what kind of top command staff i would say , yes, less than 10 , well, look at the statics, how much i looked at, i read all these statistics, all these statistics, and when your lieutenants turned out to be colonels positions without passing any . If you need to increase the army three times in 2 years, but you dont have someone to increase it, and if at the same time you carry out repressions among the senior command staff, there were repressions before that, but what do you think about raising a general . 2 months, or what . Well, the army of the thirtyseventh year and the army of the fortyfirst year, what are you comparing, 15 Million People or 5 Million People, but at the same time, lets compare 39 and 41, when you push the Army Hundreds of kilometers forward without having time to rebuild it, when you. Army affairs, because when the commanders tell you that the enemy , and you dont dare say it, its a provocation, the only fleet that retained the one that refused to listen to stalins direct order, well, it was the same, well well, she doesnt know how to put history together, these are facts, now we will blame the army for disappointing the beetles, and for him being a thief. It must be assessed as it was, the pros and cons. The Supreme Commander is in charge of everything . Yes, what was the number of captive losses in the first months of war. Why . Because the Supreme Commander prepared the country for war this way . No, yes, thats right, he is responsible for everything, the Supreme Commander of the army turned out to be, the army command turned out to be not ready. Who appointed this command . There were no others. Yes, okay, tell me, maybe other members of the politburo. There wasnt, but there werent, there were a lot of people who werent, werent, werent, werent, and then these same ones turned out to be good, its just that when you first control every step, how intelligence was destroyed, you remember what kind of outrages there were, like an unfortunate sudoplatov was barely preserved, and this was the case in almost all departments, if we Start Talking about this era, there is certainly no need to make a sheep out of stalin, but he is indisputably a commander and generalissimo, and he is incomparably the Supreme Commanderinchief, who. Led to the country in may of fortyfive to victory, but june of fortyone is also stalin. How . What do you mean by what . How . What, what . How . Stalin is guilty in june of fortyone, to many people, this is a separate, big topic, one, one, a little, one, for not striking first, but he could not, he could, he had everything for this, by allowing himself to be deceived, and so, by the fact that he interfered with the very same thing, that he did not raise, these fairy tales are nonsense, well, what fairy tales are nonsense, what losses did you have in the army, fairy tales and nonsense, these are fairy tales and nonsense, there was pain on his desk, more reports that there would be no war than that there would be war, because he did everything to ensure that those people who delivered the reports were afraid to work, starting from the fate of orlov, look in general , the fate of all the syrians and zno rests on one thing, on arlov alone, not on orlov alone, how many guys are left if sudoplatov suddenly turned out to be the leader, because everyone who was before him was removed, what was the fate of military intelligence, who commanded them, not this, this is a tragic page in our history, well , tragic, the same sudoplatov, read announced the deployment of armies to the war in one month, it was supposed to end on july 13, the germans were ahead, thats all, if on july 13 the troops were in their places, it would have been different, there was no time, there was time. The information was there and the quality was there, but if you are prescribed amateurs to manage fundamentally important areas of information collection, find first take it, there was something, excuse me, i take it, he was appointed, he at least understood something about this, yes, he learned quickly and well done, when it comes to the Nuclear Program , but he didnt understand anything at all, he didnt relate to it, golikov sent him a report before the start of the war that there would be no war in two days, golikov was the head of the military, where did golikov come from in this valley . Hes from nowhere, hes an intelligence general, he became an intelligence general, why . Because those people who were his boss, the system proved, no, because beriev carried out a purge in intelligence on the basis of stalins order, because they left those who gave only the data they wanted to see, the first thing beria did when he as if this is now, and this is another question, are we talking about what happened then, the first thing that gveriya did when he received the service . He released most of those arrested from prison, he returned most of the general to the army. The first thing bury did was he studied operation to destroy trotsky, this was the first thing he did, it was necessary, as they believed then, they read the payment for the operation, this does not relate to what i was talking about, it is by no means the return of the repressed, look how much he freed then, in what year and in what positions did he become the leader . As soon as he became in charge, he was in no hurry, he was in no hurry , the first amnesty was his, only after some time it passed, after, immediately, thats why they brought him, but i will say this, sudoplatov has a completely different idea the memoirs were completely different, why is it sad that i read sudplatov too, and i too, i have a lot more besides him, and i also read a lot besides him, and talked to a lot of people, including some of the great old men, they have Something Else there was an opinion about this period, but if we can talk about this another moment , that is, i have my opinion, professional, based, i also have some opinions on these topics, before concluding this part, i would like to return to news of today, today in nagorny karabakh, when trying to pass through the territory of armenia, for the purposes it is necessary to pass a checkpoint, ruben vardan was detained. I have known Ruben Vardanyan for many years, ruben is a man of destinies about whom novels will later be written, talented , very capable, who created a financial empire in the nineties, troika dialogue, very rich, at some point in time, who in russia is actually a billionaire , at some point in time he refuses a russian passport, justifying it by the fact that he wants to be with everything, with his people, his country, gives up everything, takes his son from england, who studied there, goes first to armenia, then to karabakh, works there as a minister,