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Uh, we have rebuilt logistics, transport engineering is growing, and so on and so forth. In general, we have a stable, stable situation, we have overcome all the problems that arose after the sanctions were imposed on us and, uh, we have begun the next stage of development, on a new basis, which is extremely important, this trend is very important to us save, dont miss. We have problems. Including they relate to the labor shortage, yes, but this is followed by some other questions, but our real disposable incomes are growing, growing, and growing , while in europe they fell, in ours they have grown by more than 12 . Here our own arise, connected with inflation, it has grown here, now it is 5. 7 , yes, well, the central bank, the government. Take concerted measures to mitigate these possible negative consequences. You mentioned the structural adjustments that is happening, some opponents will say that this is the militarization of the economy, they are right , it means, look, our defense spending has increased, but not just defense, defense and security, they have grown approximately twice, until it was somewhere there about 3 , now they are about six for defense and security, but at the same time, i want to emphasize this, i have already said, i have to repeat, we have a Budget Surplus in the Third Quarter of over 660 billion rubles, this year there will be a deficit, but only 1 , this is a completely healthy budget and healthy economy, so to say that we are spending a lot of money, we forgot about the oil, this is not so, i want to emphasize that everything, namely all the previously announced development plans, achievement of strategic goals, all the social obligations undertaken by the state, everything is in full to the best of their ability, thank you, this is good news, in addition to the conflict in ukraine, which we will certainly return to, just in the last few days of the weeks , events in the southern caucasus, here is the chairman of the European Council charles michel, not far from yesterday in interview said russia betrayed the armenian people, who said . Charles michiel, president of the European Council. You know, our people say, whose mare would moo, and yours would be silent, a cow, a mare, it doesnt matter, an animal, in short, some kind of animal. That means thats all, i interrupted you, excuse me, no, please, you understand, because what was happening, what happened most recently, uh , thats what, but after the wellknown events, and the collapse of the soviet union, we know that there was conflict, ethnic clashes began between armenians and azerbaijanis, they began in city ​​of sumgait, then transferred to karabakh, all this led to the fact that armenia actually, not karabakh, armenia actually brought under its control the whole of karabakh, seven adjacent territories, seven districts of azerbaijan, in my opinion, almost 20 territory of the azerbaijani republic, all this lasted for many decades, i must say that i will not reveal any secret here, many times over the last 15 years we have offered our armenian friends to make compromises, what kind . Return five regions around karabakh to azerbaijan, leave two for ourselves and thus preserve the territorial connection between armenia and karabakh, but our karabakh friends kept telling us time after time, no, this will create certain threats for us, we in turn said, listen, well, azerbaijan is growing, the economy is developing, this is an oil and Gas Producing country, there are already over 10 million people, lets compare the potentials , while there is such an opportunity, we need to find this compromise, we, for our part, are confident, we will make an appropriate decision within the framework of the Un Security Council, we guarantee the security of this naturally occurring lochin corridor between armenia and karabakh, we guarantee the security of the armenians living in this territory. But no, we were told, no, we cant agree to this, and what will you do, well fight, well, okay, uh, things eventually came to armed clashes in the twentieth year, and then i also suggested to our friends and to my colleagues, by the way, president aliyev will probably not be offended by me either, but at some point. An agreement was reached that what about the fact that the azerbaijani troops will stop, i honestly think that the issue has been resolved, i called yerevan and suddenly heard, no, let them leave that insignificant share, which means that karabakh, where the azerbaijani troops have entered, well, thats it , i say, listen, what are you going to do, its the same again. Phrase we will fight, well, listen, now in a few days they will go to the rear with your fortification in the akdama area, everything will end, you understand, yes, what will you do, we will fight, okay, well, that means thats it, it turned out the way it did and it turned out, in the end , we agreed with azerbaijan that after reaching the shusha line. In shusha itself , hostilities would be stopped. A corresponding statement was signed in november 2020 on the suspension of hostilities and the deployment of our peacekeepers. Here is the next very important point the legal status of our peacekeepers was based solely on this statement of november 2020. No status as peacekeepers ever arose, well , now i wont say why, azerbaijan believed that there was no need for it, well and signing without azerbaijan was pointless, so the entire status was based, i repeat, solely on the statement of november 2020, and the rights of the peacekeepers consisted of only one thing, to monitor compliance with the ceasefire regime, thats all, our peacekeepers have no other rights there there was, well, no, only monitoring the end of the regime, uh, the ceasefire , everything, well, such a precarious state, it lasted for a certain time, now you mentioned about my respected chairman of the European Council, mr. Michel, here in prague, this means that in prague, in the fall of 2020, 22 years old, uh, uh, under the auspices of mr. Michel, then the president of france, macron and mr. Scholz, the chancellors of the federal republic of germany, the leaders of armenia and azerbaijan gathered and signed a statement there, you know, a statement from which it follows that armenia recognized karabakh as part of the republic of azerbaijan. Moreover, the leaders of the delegation, the leaders of armenia , directly named the territory of azerbaijan. In square kilometers, which certainly includes karabakh and emphasized that they recognize the sovereignty of azerbaijan within the framework of the azerbaijani. Ussr, which at one time was part of the ussr, and as you know, karabakh was also part of the azerbaijani ussr, that is, in essence, the main, absolutely key issue was resolved, which was the status of karabakh, when karabakh declared its independence, no one recognized this independence, not even the army. Which, to be honest, is strange for me, but nevertheless, this was the decision, they did not recognize the independence of karabakh, but here in prague, they recognized that karabakh belongs to azerbaijan, and then in at the beginning of twentythree they repeated the same thing a second time at a similar meeting in brussels, but you know, its between us, although its already between us. But nevertheless, but if they came, by the way, no one told us about it, i personally learned this from the press, but azerbaijan has always believed that karabakh is part of its territory, but having determined the status of karabakh as part of azerbaijan, armenia made qualitative changes in its position, after that on one of. well , you see, everyone recognized that karabakh is ours, yours the peacekeeper there is on our territory, you see, even the status of our peacekeepers has undergone qualitative changes after the status of karabakh was determined as part of azerbaijan, he says, your military are on our territory, and lets now agree on their status on a bilateral basis. Well, Prime Minister pashinyan confirmed, yes, you now need to negotiate on a bilateral basis, that is, karabakh is gone, you can say whatever you want about this status, but this was, this was the key issue, the status of karabakh, everything revolves around this revolved over the previous decades, like when, who and where will determine the status, everything, armenia decided it, karabakh became. Part of azerbaijan officially, this is the position of the modern armenian state, well, what should we do, what should we , uh, everything that happened, in the recent past , a week or two or three ago, and the blocking of this lachin corridor and so on, all this was inevitable after the recognition of the sovereignty. Of azerbaijan over karabakh, it was only a matter of time, when and in what way azerbaijan will establish Constitutional Order there within the framework of the constitution of the azerbaijani state, but what can you say, how else should we react to this . Armenia recognized, but we dont recognize what we should do, but we dont recognize, but this is nonsense, thats right, some kind of nonsense, so. I wont tell you now, i think its incorrect about the nuances of our discussions, but, but what happened in the last days or in the last weeks, but it was an inevitable consequence of what was done in prague in brussels, so here is mr. Michel and his my colleagues should have thought Something Better when they tried to persuade me. Apparently, i dont know, we need to ask them themselves, somewhere behind the scenes, behind the scenes , they were trying to persuade the Prime Minister of armenia, mr. Pashinyan, to take such a step, we should all think together about the fate of the armenians of karabakh, we should somehow, well, at least write something down about what and how awaits them in this situation, some kind of order, the integration of karabakh into the azerbaijani state, some kind of order related to ensuring their security and respecting their rights , but theres nothing there no, there are only statements that karabakh is part of azerbaijan, everything, and what we should do, if armenia itself decided so, what should we do, thats what we did, we, what we had in the steam sense for in order to ensure the humanitarian component, as you know, we have. By the way, while protecting the armenians of karabakh, our peacekeepers, we provided them with humanitarian assistance, provided medical assistance, ensured their exit, and if we go back again to our european, so called colleagues, yes, but at least they now humanitarian aid, let them send it there for the maintenance of those. Unfortunate people, i cant say otherwise, who left their native lands from nagornokarabakh, but it seems to me that they will do this, but in general, by and large , of course, you need to think about their fate in the long term , well, russia is ready to support these people, and i just said, we supported them, we have people, those who left, our people died there, protecting them, covering them. Providing them with humanitarian support, because us there on on ours, in the center of our peacekeepers, all the refugees came there under the protection of our peacekeepers, thousands gathered there, they came there, mostly women and children, and of course we are already ready to provide this, armenia does not cease to be our allies if there are humanitarian issues, they are humanitarian issues, of course we are. Ready and will discuss them and are ready to provide support to help these people, this goes without saying, but i just told you now how events developed, well, briefly, but in general i said the main one. Vladimir vladimirovich, one more nuance in this regard, now the azerbaijani leadership very strictly protects those who served in karabakh, the leaders, and there are different people there, including those who are well known in russia, like. Vardan, for example, we can, he renounced our citizenship, he refused, but he was, we can somehow call on the azerbaijani leadership to show, i dont know, mercy, we have always done this, we are doing this now, i spoke, as you know, on the phone with president aliyev, well, we talked before that nothing would happen there, and he assured me all the time that no matter what happened, he would ensure the safety and rights of the armenian population of nagorno karabakh, but now there are no armenians left there, everyone has left, you you know that everyone has left, there are simply no armenians there, well, maybe a thousand and a half, thats it, thats it, theres simply no one there, thats what concerns the former leaders, i dont know, i dont want to go into details there, well, as i understand it, they especially dont want to see them in yerevan, but i proceed from the fact that the leadership of azerbaijan will still be to proceed from considerations of a humanitarian nature in this case, when all issues of a territorial nature have been resolved for azerbaijan. Thank you, colleagues, please. So, please, if you want to ask questions, here is feng shawlei, i am feng professor feng shawlei, one of our veterans, thank you, east china normal university, shanghai , dear mr. President , i am very glad to see you again, october international conference, its theme is dedicated to the tenth anniversary of the initiative and the train will take place in in beijing, at the same time, this is an almost halfyearold initiative to connect the Eurasian Partnership with the initiatives of poyza, which were determined together with president vsempina, but my question is the same, in the new situation, what are the new ideas and what are the specific proposals you have already thought and prepared, thank you very much, we actually return to this topic several times, and some people even tried, are trying to sow. Doubts that our eurasian, our eurasian project, the development of the eurasian union, economic, and initiative of the chairman, one train, one track, they may not coincide with interests, they may enter into some kind of competition with each other, this is not so, i have already said this many times, on the contrary, we believe that one project harmoniously complements the other , because what is happening in relation to china, in relation to russia, well, in relation to russia, to a greater extent today, in relation to china long before the start. Events in ukraine, some partners, we know who exactly, began to introduce various types of sanctions, these are some moments turned, even all this turned into some kind of trade war between china and the United States, restrictions were introduced, including those related to logistics, we are interested in establishing new logistics routes. And china is also interested, the volume of trade turnover is growing, excuse me, the volume of trade is growing, now we are talking about northsouth corridors, china is building some routes there through the Central Asian states, we are interested in supporting this, we are building the corresponding roads and railways, here this is all the subject of our negotiations, this is firstly, secondly, all this complements. What is called the sphere of real production, we supply the necessary goods to the people s republic of china, china supplies us with the goods we need, and we are building such chains and logistics and production chains , which certainly fit into the goals that the chairman set for the chinese economy, the economy fits into our development tasks, especially in the modern. World of development of our economy and partner relations with other countries, this is quite obvious, complement each other. I will not list specific projects now, there are enough of them, including between china and russia, we built a bridge, you know, we have other logistics plans , we are developing relations, as i already said, in the field of real production, all this together will be the subject of. Our bilateral contacts and negotiations within the multilateral format, this is a large, very, very capacious capitalintensive work and i want to emphasize again, i want this to emphasize this, all this work was in no way and was never built against anyone, it has a creative beginning aimed exclusively at achieving a positive result, as for us. Russia and china, and for our partners around the world. Thank you so much, richard saakua. Those who defend themselves are autonomous actors in International Politics. This is happening, this is happening within the framework of the sco, a few months ago there was a meeting, so the world is changing, International Politics is changing, the state is changing, postcolonial states are changing, and now these states have made it clear that they want to actively participate in the international community, however, International Politics. Is formed within the framework of the system that was created in the fortieth year within the un, you do not see the contradiction between the change in International Politics, and the paralysis of the un system, International Law, how russia can help overcome this so that it works better, how to resolve the contradiction in International Politics, more in peaceful way. So that they are aimed at the future, you are certainly right, there are certain contradictions between the framework that was created by the victorious countries in the Second World War in 1945, and the changed conditions in the world, today, 1945 one situation in world, today. Completely different and of course, of course, these legal ones, they must change in accordance with the changing world, here you can treat this differently, we can say that the un is modern International Law, which is built on the basis of the charter united nations, are outdated and must be demolished, and something new needs to be created. But here, of course, there is a danger that we will eliminate the existing system of international rules, namely the real rules of International Law on the basis of the un charter , but nothing new has been created and will not be created, there will simply be general chaos, it already takes place, its elements take place be, but if the un charter is completely thrown into the dustbin of history, without replacing it with anything, then chaos is inevitable and can lead to very serious consequences, so i believe we must follow ways of changing International Law in accordance with the requirements of today with changes in the situation in the world. In this sense, of course, the Un Security Council should include countries that gain significant weight in the international arena. And simply because of their potential, they have the opportunity to influence the resolution of Key International issues. Which countries are these . Well, this is india, i think the population is more than one and a half billion people, Economic Growth is more than seven percent, i think 7. 4 or 7. 6 . But this a global giant, yes, there are still a lot of people there who need help and support, but nevertheless, it means that hightech exports there are growing at a gigantic, gigantic pace, because this is a powerful country, it is becoming more powerful from year to year under the leadership of Prime Minister modi, or brazil, in latin america, the population is huge, the growth of influence is colossal, south africa, well, of course. Not taking into account their influence in the world means their weight in making key decisions on the International Agenda should increase, but of course, this needs to be done in such a way that a consensus is reached on these changes, so that it does not destroy, this is a complex issue, so that it does not destroy the existing International Legal regime, this is a complex process, but in my opinion, we need to go exactly in this direction, along this path, that is, you think that the existing International Legal. Well, it exists, it has not been destroyed yet, well , its definitely not completely destroyed, because you understand what s the matter, lets remember the very, very first years of the existence of the un, as our soviet minister was called then foreign affairs, mr. Gromyk, they called him mr. No, why . Because there were a lot of contradictions, and the soviet union very often used its right of veto, but it was. The meaning of the meaning, it did not lead to conflicts, in our recent history, we very often heard from western leaders that the un system outdated, it does not meet the needs of today , this especially began to sound when during the yugoslav crisis, when, without any sanctions from the Un Security Council, the United States and the allies began to bomb belgrade, ruthlessly and fearlessly, they ended up in the embassy of the chinese peoples republic in belgrade, where this International Law simply does not exist, they said there was no International Law that was not needed, it was outdated, why, because they wanted to act, well, without regard to this International Law, then, when russia began to take some actions, they said, how can this be, its a disgrace, russia is violating International Law and the un charter, but, unfortunately, there have always been attempts. Adjust this International Law to suit yourself, is it good or bad, it is very bad, but at least something exists that is a guideline, my only concern is that if it is completely swept into the basket, it will be put away, but then there wont even be any guidelines, so it seems to me that we need to follow the path of permanent gradual changes, but this must be done unconditionally, the world has changed. Thank you, sergey karaganov, i am one of the veterans and founders of the club and i am in a state close to happiness on the day of its twentieth anniversary, because well, old people should say that in general i say, it was better with us, it wasnt like that, with we are better, now we are better, more fun, more interesting, brighter, more colorful, so thank you too for your participation, but my question is this, as for more fun, it seems to me that when it s more interesting, then its more fun, thats when and beyond here in russia, and now at the club, one simple question is being quite discussed, i will formulate it as follows, on my own behalf, of course, not on everyones behalf, is our Nuclear Doctrine of using nuclear. In weapons not outdated, it seems to me that absolutely outdated, she even looks frivolous, created in other times and maybe in a different situation, and even follows old theories, deterrence no longer works, is it not time for us to change the doctrine of the use of Nuclear Weapons in the direction of lowering the Nuclear Threshold and go, of course, firmly, but rather quickly, on the ladder of escalation , deterrence, sobering up our partners, they have become insolent, they directly say that because you have such a doctrine, and that they will never use Nuclear Weapons, and we thus unwittingly allow them to expand and carry out an absolutely monstrous aggression, this is one question, it contains another, and the world in the coming years, even when we win in one way or another in ukraine, or around ukraine, the west will still go through very difficult times, new centers will arise , new difficulties, we need to put back the same fuse that was nuclear deterrence, which held the world for 70 years, now this west, having forgotten history. And fear is trying to eliminate this fuse, shouldnt we change our policy in this area . I know your position, i have read some documents, your articles, notes, and i understand your feelings. Let me remind you that in Russian Military doctrine , there are two, two, two reasons for the possible use of Nuclear Weapons by russia, the first is the use against us, that is, in response to a counter strike, the socalled, but in practice, what does this mean , the missiles launched, our sparn system detected, ah, recorded, let us know that the target was russian territory federation, all this happens in seconds, so that everyone understands, and already understanding, knowing the information that a blow is being struck against russia, we, for our part, respond to this aggression. And i want to assure everyone that today the response is absolutely unacceptable for any potential aggressor, because from the moment the Missile Launch is detected, no matter where it comes from, from anywhere in the world ocean or from whatever territory, in response to the oncoming strike in the air such a quantity appears, so many hundreds, hundreds of ours, a package that the chances not a single enemy will have any left to survive, and in several directions at once, the second, second reason for the use of these weapons is a threat to the existence of the russian state, if even conventional weapons are used against russia, but the very existence of russia as a state is threatened, so. Two possible reasons for using the weapons you mentioned, do we need to change that . Why, everything can be changed, but i just dont see the need for this, well , there is no such situation in which, well, lets say, today something would threaten russian statehood, the existence of the russian state, no, that means, i think, such a person of sound mind and clear memory would not think of using Nuclear Weapons against russia. Well, nevertheless , your point of view, that of other experts, people who are patriotic, are very worried about what is happening inside the country, around us, they are worried about what is happening in our country. On the line of combat contact in the ukrainian direction, i understand everything, we look carefully and treat, believe me, respect for your point of view, but i dont see such a need to change our concept, the potential enemy knows about everything, knows about our capabilities, here its another matter, well, for example, i hear there are already calls, for example, to Start Testing Nuclear Weapons, back to testing, here, thats what i would say, the United States signed the corresponding international act, document, treaty banning Nuclear Weapons testing, and russia signed it, russia. Signed and ratified, but the United States signed but did not ratify, well now we have almost completed the work on modern types of strategic weapons that i spoke about and which i announced several years ago, the last successful test of the petrel, a globalrange Cruise Missile with a nuclear installation, a Nuclear Propulsion system, has been carried out, we have actually finished work on the sormat , over a superheavy rocket, the question is that we just need to complete some procedures in a purely administrative and bureaucratic manner, move on to their mass production of putting it on combat duty, and we will do this in the near future, as a rule, experts say, well, a new weapon, you need to make sure that there is a ammunition, a special ammunition will work without failures, but there is no need to carry out tests, well, here i am now. Im not ready to say, we really dont need to carry out tests , but, but uh, well, behave in a mirror manner in relations with the United States, i repeat once again, when they signed, but did not ratify, and we signed and ratified, in basically a mirror story ourselves with the same United States. It is possible, but this is a question of the state duma department, theoretically it is possible to revoke this ratification, it is enough, if we do this, it will be quite enough, right now in the west, it has already been opened, some are expressing the position that the support for ukraine is such, excuse me, support ukraine is so active, due to the fact that russia somehow did not respond convincingly enough for the entire year and a half to the escalation on their part, i dont know, convincingly, not convincingly, but now only at first the socalled counteroffensive, this is the latest data, only since june 4, ukrainian units have already lost over 90,000 people, these are. Uh, sanitary, irretrievable losses, 557 tanks, 100, almost 1,900 Armored Vehicles of various classes, convincingly, not convincingly, thats why we have we have our own understanding of what is moving and how, we understand where and what we need to do, where and what we need to add, we are calmly moving towards achieving our goals, i am sure we will achieve them, implementing these tasks that we have set for ourselves, thank you , so radiodes. Thank you for another, i would say, historically important and thoughtful speech, i am always very impressed when i listen to you, i have a question, and a personal request, the question concerns my country, canada, as you know, the Canadian Parliament. Just exposed himself to ridicule when they applauded the ukrainian nazi, a veteran in the Canadian Parliament, more than four 40 people applauded, and no one questioned whether this was right . As you know, Prime Minister trudeau apologized, it seems, twice already, the speaker of Parliament Went into resignation, and for me this really shows the scale, the scale of how far the western position has come, they are so focused in their ignorant concepts that they have even forgotten how much russia did to defeat nazism, they do not understand that if not the contribution of russia, then the Second World War would have ended differently, there would have been no victory , they forgot, 30 million lives were lost for victory, a huge figure, its hard to even imagine this scale, could you comment on this, what do you mean by this think and my personal request to you, this concerns me personally, and excuse me if i Say Something wrong, but this concerns my friend, the friend of many of us here and my husband, and this is koberlitzskys issue, as you know, he was detained, and he is concerned about his personal condition, i have several reasons why i am talking about this, several petitions have been signed in western countries, of course, a lot is said about this case, but we do not sign these petitions because we do not agree with their content, because they are completely antirussian. We have to you letter, and we hope that you will read it, and we hope that you will understand that we are addressing you as friends of russia, of course, we are in a difficult position because we do not agree with your friends position, but we remember, as much as we have learned from him, he has an Excellent Knowledge of russian history, and he has always been committed to russia, and this is our personal appeal to you, please take up. Personally, thank you, you know, i honestly dont know in detail who kogorlist is . As my colleague tells me, i will, of course, take this paper yours, ill look and respond, i promise you, okay, as for your question , god knows, you and i didnt agree that this question would come, but i was waiting for it, i ll tell you honestly, and whats more, uh, i took it , took information about what actually happened, for us this is not, not an ordinary event. Let me remind you that, uh, this division , in which that ukrainian nazi you mentioned served, was created by hitler, by hitlers command on april 28, 1943, the nuremberg trials, not us, yesterday. Or in todays conditions, and the nuremberg tribunal declared the sss Galicia Division in which this ukrainian nazi served. Criminal and responsible for the genocide of jews, poles, and other civilians, this is the decision of the International Nuremberg court. Let me remind you that this decision was made by independent prosecutors and judges, well , ultimately, judges, of course, on the basis of the data provided by prosecutors in various countries. And this organization has been declared criminal, which means, let me remind you of the words, i specifically took this paper with information so that it would be specific and evidentiary, what the speaker of the Canadian Parliament said, today there is a ukrainiancanadian veteran of the Second World War in this hall. Who fought for the independence of ukraine against the russians. I am proud to say that he is a hero of ukraine and a hero of canada. And we are grateful to him for his service. Firstly, if the speaker is canadian. Parliament says that during the Second World War, this canadian, canadian, ukrainian or ukrainiancanadian nazi fought against the russians during the Second World War, he cannot help but understand that he fought on the side hitler, not on the side of his own homeland of canada, or was a fascist collaborator. In any case, he fought on the side of the nazi troops, lets say he doesnt know this, i in no way want to offend the feelings of the canadian people, we treat canada, no matter what, with respect, especially to the people, but if he doesnt know that during the war hitler and his minions fought against russia, then he is an idiot. Well, that means its simple, he just didnt go to school, doesnt have basic knowledge, but if he knows that this person fought on the side of hitler and calls him a hero of ukraine and a hero of canada, then he is a scoundrel, either this or that. Well, these are the people we have to deal with, and these are our opponents today from some western countries, but what else is important in my opinion, the speaker of the Canadian Parliament says he fought with the russians, and today he continues to support, there is a further quote, today he continues to support. Ukrainian troops fighting against the russians, he essentially put hitlers collaborators, the ss troops, and todays ukrainian combat units fighting, as he said, against russia, he put them on the same level, this only confirms our thesis that one of our goals in ukraine is denazification, which means it is still there. There is and is recognized, this is the nazification of ukraine, our common goal, i think, is common , to achieve denazification, and finally, of course, it looks absolutely disgusting that everyone applauds, applauded this nazi, and especially the president of ukraine, in whose veins the jewish blood, jew nationality is worth applauding the nazi, not just a follower of the nazis, not just an ideological follower, precisely the person who destroyed the Jewish Population with his own hands, he personally destroyed it, because the german fascists created this division of the sss galachin, primarily for the civilian population in the decision of the Nuremberg Court so it is written they are blamed for genocide. Poles , approximately 150,000 poles were destroyed, russians, of course, no one considered the gypsies at all, they werent even considered people, which means one and a half million jews were exterminated in ukraine, just think about this figure, but didnt this happen, and didnt anyone know this, but everyone knows, everyone knows, didnt there be a holocaust . And when the president of ukraine applauds a person who personally exterminated jews in ukraine with his own hands, he wants to say that there was no holocaust, but isnt it disgusting, all means are good, as long as they fight against russia, such people, and all means good if used in the fight against russia, but i i can. Imagine that there is simply an irresistible desire to defeat russia on the battlefield, to achieve its strategic defeat, but is it really possible to do this at such a cost . It seems to me that this, this is just extremely disgusting, i really hope that its not just us here in a narrow circle. Well talk about it in the aldai club, well, after all, its somehow a Public Organization , those who care about the future of humanity will still formulate their position on this issue, clearly, unambiguously and with condemnation of what happened, thank you, i saw gabor, gabbor stir, where is where, where you saw, now you lost it, and lord, here he is, gabor from hungary, uh, mr. President , i wont ask about that this time , what will happen to odessa, although uh, in hungary many people ask that what will the neighboring country be called, from odessa, you mean, no, no, no, in the past that well, please, excuse me, yes, yes, yes, that means, mr. President , we know that you are interested in history, so now i would like approach the current reality from this point of view, and if we talk about history, then we know how important it was for the development of russia that. Opened a window to europe, europeanness is part of russian identity, of course, now europe is in decline and does everything to prevent russia from falling in love with her, but as a european, its seriously scary to hear a statement that some european cities should be subjected to atomic bombs. That today im listening, what europe means to russia today, because this is not a question of what kind of problems we have, russia, what does europe mean for russia today, will russia turn its back completely on him, and dont you think so . Uh, it would be a mistake to wall up this window. And if were already talking about history, then another question what if the new russian history textbooks caused a serious discussion in hungary, uh, more precisely, the lines about 56, describing what happened as a kind of Color Revolution. Do you also think that 1956 was not a real revolution . And do you agree with another controversial comment in the book that the withdrawal of troops from Central Europe 199090 and 91 was a mistake. I remember, i know that in vladivostok you said that the introduction of tanks was a mistake, it was a mistake this year, but if it was a mistake, then what do you think is this, uh, conclusion . This is also a mistake, you think that this is a question, this is a reason for writing a dissertation, it probably means that you said that you would not talk or mention odessa, although you mentioned it, but last time i abstained, i can say that odessa this is of course a russian city, well, its a little jewish, like we are now we say, just a little bit. Here, but uh, lets not talk about this now, if youre in the mood to talk about another topic, then , firstly, to the window, to europe, you know, just now colleagues were saying, the world is changing, and to climb all the time in window back and forth means tearing your pants is not the best thing to do, why climb through the window when there are other doors . This is the first, second, russia , without any doubt, well, the civilizational code of russia, even like europe, is based on christianity, this certainly unites us, but we are not going to impose ourselves on europe if it doesnt want it, we dont refuse, we dont slam it, they said whether we regret it or not, but why should we regret it, its not us who are slamming the door to joint communication, its europe that is fencing itself off from us, creating such a new iron curtain, it is not we who are creating it, but the europeans who are creating it at a loss and to their own detriment, i have already said, i can repeat it, the economy of, say, the United States, it is growing 2. 4 . And the european economy is going into recession, has already gone, and some european figures, who are definitely not at all inclined, positive, friendly, somehow towards our side, they give the correct diagnosis, prosperity was based on cheap energy from europe to develop the chinese market. The wellbeing of europe was based on these factors, of course, high technology, well, hardworking, disciplined, disciplined working class, talented people, all this is certainly true, but there are fundamental factors that europe itself refuses, i said in the introductory layer about sovereignty, you understand, because sovereignty has multivector dimensions, thats why we say all the time, and i say all the time, that russia cannot exist as a nonsovereign state, it will simply cease to exist completely, because its not just about issues of military and other security, its about other components, this is what happened to europe, many. European leaders, so as not to accuse me, do not accuse me of rudely attacking someone or defaming someone, many europeans themselves talk about that europe has lost its sovereignty, say, in the economic locomotive of europe in a federal republic, but leading politicians have repeatedly emphasized that after 1945, it was never in the full sense of the word a sovereign state. What does this lead to in practice, including in Economic Life . The United States provoked it, and i think that i have no doubt, it was they who provoked the ukrainian crisis when they supported the coup in ukraine in 1914, they could not help but understand that this was a red line, we said this a thousand times, no , climbed. Well here we are got todays situation. And i suspect that it is no coincidence that they needed this conflict, the result that europe, which had long ago lost part, well, not completely, but a significant part of its sovereignty, was forced to immediately follow its sovereign and follow his policy, move to a policy of restrictive sanctions in relations with russia, she was forced, realizing that this was to her detriment, and now all Energy Resources, a significant part of ethyl, are bought from. The states, 30 more expensive, which means they have introduced restrictions on on oil, on russian, what is the result, its not as obvious as for gas, but the result is the same, they reduced the number of suppliers, and we, in turn, began to buy from the reduced number of Oil Suppliers at more expensive. Prices, and we sell their oil to other countries at a discount, you know what happened, the competitiveness of the european economy fell down, and the competitiveness of their main, in fact from the point of view of the economic component, competitor of the United States increased sharply and other countries. Including in asia too increased, with our own hands, as a result of the loss, the loss of part of our sovereignty with our own hands, we were forced to make a decision to our own detriment, well, why do we need such a partner, of course, he is not useless, but i want to draw attention to the fact that we. In we are largely withdrawing from the fading European Market and increasing our presence in growing markets in other regions of the world, including asia. At the same time, of course, we are connected with europe by numerous, centuriesold ties in the field of culture, education, uh, i repeat, all this is based on christian culture. But even here the europeans do not make us very happy, they are destroying their roots based on christian culture, they are simply tearing them out mercilessly, so we are not going to close anything, neither windows nor doors, but we are not going to break. There to europe, if europe doesnt want this, it wants it, please, we will work together, please, but , well, it seems to me, well, we can talk endlessly, but i, in my opinion, noted the main points, now regarding the textbook and Color Revolutions 1956, i wont hide, i didnt read the textbook in this part, regarding the withdrawal of troops, of course, uh, these are also historical facts, uh, then in 1956, many western countries stirred up problems that took place, in including, this was due to the mistakes of the then hungarian leadership, they also trained militants, trained them abroad, transferred them to hungary, but in my opinion, still. Its still difficult to call it some kind of Color Revolution in its pure form , because they were, of course, there was an internal basis serious, as it were, protest within the country itself, this is, in my opinion, an obvious thing, as for, and then it is hardly necessary to carry over everything today, todays formulation. Of the last century, as for the withdrawal of troops, i am deeply convinced that there is no point in with the help of troops, to suppress, internal tendencies in a particular country, among the people to achieve those goals that they consider priority for themselves, this applies to European Countries and Eastern European ones as well, but there was no point in keeping there are troops there, if, if, if the people of these countries did not want to see them on their territory, but how this happened, on what conditions it all happened, in what way, this of course raises many questions, but our troops went straight to. Field, many, how many people know about this, just in an open field, with families, this is normal, at the same time any obligations, whatever, any legal, legal consequences of the withdrawal of these troops, was also not formulated, not by the soviet, not russian leadership, western partners were not took on no obligations at all, but at least returned to the issue of expanding or not expanding nato to the east, but everything was promised, well, our American Partners didnt. And where is the piece of paper . No piece of paper, thats it, goodbye, they promised, well, they sort of promised , but its worth nothing, we know that even a piece of paper isnt worth anything to them, they re ready to choose any piece of paper, but at least something. Something was recorded on paper, and during the withdrawal of troops it could be agreed upon, the issues of ensuring security in europe could be achieved, some kind of. Some new structures in europe, the same german social democracy, mr. Bahr, egan bahr had proposals, i already spoke about this once, to create a new Security System in europe, which would include both russia and the same United States, and the same canada, but not nato, but together with everyone else, for eastern and Central Europe, in my opinion, this would solve many. Problems of today, and he said then, my grandfather was smart, he said exactly what he says, otherwise you will see, everything will be the same, only closer to russia, german he was a politician, an experienced, competent and intelligent person, no one listened to him, not the soviet leadership, and especially in the west and in the United States, well, now we have what he said, you know, the withdrawal of troops yes it was pointless to hold, but the conditions for the withdrawal, this was exactly what we had to talk about, and to achieve the creation of a situation that would perhaps not lead to todays tragedies and to todays crisis, so, well, thats probably all, yes, i answered your question, if i forgot something, please, thank you, im from germany, and i would like to talk about what you just mentioned, and the special military operation in ukraine, they often say that this is an antifascist operation, that the people of ukraine need to be liberated from the nazis, and the country needs to be liberated, and so on. Against this background, it is not entirely clear how this can be, it turns out that we are in contact at a high level, we are in contact between parliaments, and even german parties are in contact, we also have parties that are deeply russian in essence and of course, they have no sympathy for the russian people, they dont understand that russia is a multinational country, as was already mentioned in your speech, thats what i would like to understand, what you are counting on, what your government is counting on from contacts with the parliaments of other countries with other parties, with parties that have a similar sense, practically fascist, do you understand that antifascism in europe also does not support your policies, european antifascist. Excuse me, please, i would like to ask you, i would like to ask you to specify what you mean when you say about fascist forces and about profascist parties, about their attitude towards russia and so on, please, directly and specifically, otherwise we will talk halfheartedly, or better yet directly, khur held an official meeting with foreign minister delgey lavrov. In 2020, and it was an official meeting, and part of the afd is essentially based on the fascist movement and antifascists in germany do not quite understand the meaning of such contacts, and do not understand the meaning of russias policy towards such couples, excuse me, please, what do you see , in what you see, thats what. Confirms what you said, that they are based in their activities on some kind of fascist, profascist, National Socialist ideas, can you tell me specifically what they are talking about . For example, he is directly connected with the fascists, he regularly goes to demonstrations in dreston, on the anniversary of the events, and he goes out together with the fascists, this representative of the alternative for Germany Party is directly connected with the nazi movement, and this is often talked about, he does not hide the fact that it is right party. I see, so look, you started with ukraine. Asked me if it was fair that we publicly declare that we are striving for denazification of the ukrainian political system, well, we just discussed the situation that developed in the Canadian Parliament, when the president of ukraine stood and applauded the nazi who killed jews, russian poles, isnt this a sign of well. Ukraine has developed a system that we have the right to call paranazi, the leader of the state stands applauding a nazi, and not just some ideological follower of nazism, but a real nazi, a former soldier sss, isnt this a sign of nazification in ukraine, and doesnt this give us the right to talk about its denazification, but. Answer , yes, this is the head of state, but this is not the whole country, and ill tell you, you talked about those who goes to rallies together with profascist elements, and is this the whole party that goes to these rallies, probably not, everything that is profascist, pronazi is certainly condemned by us, everything that is devoid of these. Well, these signs , on the contrary, we support it aimed at establishing some contacts, thats how much i know that an assassination attempt was made on one of the leaders, an alternative for germany, a federal republic, only now during the election campaign, what does this mean . That representatives of this party use nazi methods, or these nazi methods are used against them, because this is a question awaiting its painstaking researcher, including in your person, in the person of the general public of the federal republic itself, but what about the antifascist forces , we have always been with them together, we know their position towards russia, for this position and unconditionally support it, i think that everything that is aimed at reviving, at maintaining relations between us must be supported, and this certainly can be a light at the end of the tunnel of our current relations, thank you, alexey grivavich, right there in the back, thank you, the opportunity to ask a question, it is also of a research nature, we are working on the latest events in the gas sector, exactly a year ago, well, a little more, we everyone was a witness an incredible act, an unprecedented act of International Terrorism against critical crossborder, european infrastructure. I mean the explosions of northern streams, you have commented a lot on this topic, including the monstrous negligence of european investigators and political figures in assessing this situation, we can say, brilliantly, we see a brilliant absence of any clear reaction of condemnation of this fact on the part of the leadership, for example, there is chancellor scholz or president macron, although the companies of these countries, one might say, they directly suffered from these actions, since they were and are shareholders, coowners of these assets and coinvestors of these projects, but at the same time, numerous leaks have recently appeared that directly or indirectly try to lay blame, supposedly a consequence. Such conclusion that ukrainian comrades are behind these acts, deeds, in this regard, i have two questions for you, the first was there any reaction on the part of these gentlemen political figures of your european counterparts in any direct contacts, and not in official speeches, which were not, in my opinion, or what is called through diplomatic channels, the second question is what the consequences can and will be if the socalled european investigation, the investigative authorities of European Countries, nevertheless lays the blame for these events in exactly the same way , actions on the ukrainian side. The first thing i would like to draw your attention to is that long before these explosions, the president of the United States publicly said that the United States would do everything to ensure that Russian Energy supplies to europe through these pipeline systems were. Terminated, and he smiled so meaningfully and said now i wont say how it will be done, but we will do it, first, second, the destruction of these infrastructure facilities is certainly an act of International Terrorism. Third, we are not allowed to participate in the investigation, despite our proposals and. Calls to do this, further, there are no results of the investigations, and apparently, there will be no answer to the question of who is to blame, it is always necessary answer the question of who is interested in this, of course, the american supplier of Energy Resources to the European Market is interested. The americans have wanted this for a long time, they achieved it, and by whose hands it no longer matters, but there is another component to this whole problem, of course, if it is ever revealed who did this, it must be brought to justice, this is an act of International Terrorism, but save. This is one branch of nord stream 2, it is not damaged, it can supply 27. 5 billion cubic meters of gas to europe, this is only a decision the governments federal republic of germany, nothing else is needed, today is the decision, tomorrow we turn everything on and the gas is flowing, but they dont do this, because as we say the Washington Regional Committee does not allow it to the detriment of its own interests, we continue to supply gas to europe through turkish flows, and apparently, ukrainian terrorist groups are aimed at causing damage to him, our ships are guarded there, these pipeline systems are laid. Along the bottom of the black sea, but they are constantly trying to attack them, with the help of drones , which, which are being prepared, including with the direct participation of englishspeaking specialists and advisers, we hear this on the air, where these unmanned, semisubmersible boats are being prepared, we hear. Close speech, this is for us, this is an obvious fact, who is there in the end in the end it does, well, draw your own conclusions, but deliveries continue, including through the territory of ukraine , we transit through the territory of ukraine, and we pay money for this transit, so just a minute, here we are a lot, i already talked about this, we we hear that we are aggressors, that we so stretched out, bad, but the money, apparently, does not smell , they receive money for transit, they are happy to cash it all , um, thats it, thats why, uh, we behave openly, transparently, we are ready to cooperate , but they dont want to, they dont need to, we will increase the amount of liquefied natural gas produced and sold, we will, we will send it to other markets, we will build new pipes. Systems to where they want to see our product, where it is absolutely competitive and increases the competitiveness of the economies of those countries, i ive already talked about this, where they get our products, but as for the investigation, well see, well, in the end , you cant hide the bags, as our people say, in the end it will be clear who did it. You yourself mentioned about transit through ukraine, part of our public is perplexed, but why are we doing this, this money, so that they um, why do we pay them, we pay money because this is a transit country, and uh , we deliver in transit through ukraine, uh, only because that we are fulfilling our contractual obligations to our counterparties in europe, well, this strengthens the defense capability of our enemy, well , this strengthens our financial condition, we get money for this, of course, thank you, thank you, it is a great honor and a great opportunity for me, to hear your speech, i would like to switch to the middle east, move away from the topic of the international system, i am from iraq and soon the Prime Minister of iraq will come to visit moscow, and i thank you for hosting him personally, and now there are numerous problems associated with our country, rosneft and gazprom work with us, they have invested large sums in iraq, kurdistan, in particular, and do you think that now. There is an opportunity to help the parties to the conflict in kurdistan achieve a peaceful solution and peacefully resolve all the problems that currently exist, since there are other countries in the region that would like, for example, on the contrary, they would like to escalate the conflict, they would like to add fuel to the fire, now i would also like to say that by the end twenty third year we have already approached, dont you think that the time has come to personally help all the countries in conflict in syria, including talking with the government and with the kurds, with regional forces, all regional parties, to finally put an end to this conflict. Thousands of syrians have fled their homes, they are being humiliated and there is still no peaceful solution on the horizon. Russia, they respect president putin, you have very good relations with them, i think the time has come, not only to intervene, but to act as a mediator between all parties in syria, thank you very much, you just said that even the parties to the conflict in some states of the middle east, including syria, respect us and treat us with respect. I can tell you, this is because we ourselves treat everyone with respect, and we, as far as syria is concerned, are, are supporters of the peace process, including the subguids, the auspices of the united nations. But we cannot replace the contracting parties with ourselves, we can only create conditions, to a certain extent, if it is acceptable to everyone, to act guarantors. These agreements, including with the participation of our direct partners, in this process, i mean iran and turkey, within the framework of the ostaninsky process, we did this, all this had positive consequences and now everything that has been achieved, and thank god it has been achieved a lot, meaning, first of all, a ceasefire and the conditions created for the peace process, all this was done by us, our partners, with good will, with the good will of the leadership of syria, but of course, a lot still needs to be done, it seems to me that this is outside intervention, an attempt to create some kind of quasi, quasistate associations on the territory of syria, they do not lead to anything good, and the displacement of arab tribes that traditionally lived in certain areas. With the aim of creating these quasistate entities, this is a difficult story that can lead to a prolongation of the conflict, but we are nevertheless ready to help in every possible way to increase the level of trust, including between the central authorities of syria and the kurds living in the east of the country, this is difficult process, here you know, i try to be very careful, because every word matters, this is the first thing that concerns, the second thing that concerns iraq, we have very good relations with iraq. And we welcome the visit of the Prime Minister of iraq to russia and there are indeed many issues that are of mutual interest, and of course, first of all, they lie in the energy sector, but there is another very important issue, in the economic sphere this is logistics, i wont talk now go into detail, but we know that there are several Development Options logistics, transport, across the territory of iraq, in general, they all suit us , we just need to choose the most optimal , optimal projects, we are ready to take part in their implementation, mr. Prime minister will come, and we will be happy to discuss all these issues, including including those related to Regional Security and security within iraq itself , for many, many decades we have maintained the closest. Close and trusting relations with iraq, we have a lot of friends there, and we want and strive for so that a situation of stability arises in the country, on the basis of this stability the economy and social sphere develop, we are waiting for the arrival of mr. Prime minister, i am sure that this visit will be very productive and timely, thank you, taisu kibiru, please here. Thank you, taiska, pisawa foundation, japan , the last time i was given the opportunity to take a question was in 2000, 5 years ago, but after the start of the war in ukraine, japan. Here is a sanction against russia, russia air, suspension of negotiations on concluding a peaceful Agreement Agreement between the two countries, resulting in a deadlock in japanlasia relations. I personally, in a pruning time, i do not see a good prospect for improving the situation, however, russia and japan, and the neighbor, i believe that it is necessary to always keep the window open in this sense, i believe that it is long overdue for dialogue between our countries at the level of at least a tourist action, that is, at the expert level, and i believe that japan will come out if japan comes out with such. If necessary, if it corresponds to ours National Interests, lets work, then, regarding japan, you said that you asked. In 2018, after the start of hostilities in ukraine, everything changed there. The fighting in ukraine did not begin after 2018, in 2014, but in japan they simply preferred not to notice it, and the more acute phase really began in the twentysecond, but the fighting itself began in the fourteenth, during the bombings, and thats where it all began, i said this in my opening remarks here, now. By about our relations, but well, we didnt impose sanctions against japan, we didnt slam this window, in this case to asia, japan did it, we didnt do anything, if you think that the time has come for some that dialogue had a place to take place, and do you think it is possible for the japanese side to somehow show some kind of initiative . Its always good when there is some kind of dialogue, you asked me if we are ready to respond to this, we are ready if there is such an initiative from the side that closed these doors or windows, well, if you think it has come its time to open this window, so please, we never said that we were against it, do it. Alexander rakovich. I am a historian from belgad serbia, it is a privilege for me to be here, to see you and talk to you. I have a question about your opinion. Serbs and russia are the target of the politician because we stand for christianity. Mr. President , i have two books with me that i brought from belgrade for you, please accept them into your library. After our session these books, thank you very much, i will definitely take the books, thank you, and as for whether russia and serbia are a target for some circles in the west, well, yes, thats a fact, but what about this, no special proof is needed here, its just a fact why serbia is such a target, i to be honest, i dont understand. Just like russia in the early nineties was willing to do anything to build after the collapse of the soviet union, believing that times had changed radically, to make virtually any sacrifice in order to build its relations with western countries, why did we receive support for separatism and terrorism in the caucasus, direct, informational, financial, and even military, well, you just know, at that time i was first the director of the fsb, i looked in surprise at what was happening, i thought , why, we seem to be all together now, why are they doing this, but they did it, im not ashamed, the answer is no answer, to be honest, even to this day, i believe that this is some kind of. Well, just lack of education, or something, lack of understanding, lack of understanding of trends, lack of understanding of how the world structured, how russia is structured, what this can lead to, just a desire to put pressure, force, force, force, nothing but force, because sanctions are also force, only in a different form, a complete desire to search for some kind of compromise. But these are these shouts that i spoke about, you must, you are obliged , we are warning you, this is what force is, an attempt to use an element of force, this is the same thing, its all about this, in relation to serbia, first slavia, then serbia, why, serbia also seemed to be ready for everything, wanted to agree on everything, no, you have to add pressure, add pressure. I know, ive heard it many times, its necessary to put pressure on it, this is a weak link, its necessary to put pressure on it, philosophy, this is the philosophy, why exactly the serds should be caught, to be honest, i dont know, even, moreover, when there were some frank conversations, i still had normal relations with some leaders, when they told me, i need to add more, i say, why, there is no answer, just like that. Such a philosophy has developed, this is the paradigm, we need to decide like this, add pressure, but the serbs are not the same people, the history is not the same, the culture is not the same. You know, ill say, maybe such a difficult thing can be destroyed, the serbs cannot be crushed and subjugated, they dont understand this either, but i hope that sooner or later an understanding of this component, of european politics, and in general, world politics, will come , there will come an understanding that it is still more constructive to negotiate rather than try. They are very informative, i am from new delhi, thank you very much for the positive assessment of the role of india, i have a question regarding the group of twenty, the group of 20 declaration was developed, we very grateful for your work, in the Network Group there is also some reference, one world, one family, one future, which is associated with the civilizational approach, as it seems to me, which you spoke about, just like russian civilization, you are promoting the approach of russian civilization , and also india describes itself, calls itself a civilizational state, a state of civilization, thus it is necessary to establish a dialogue between civilizations, and not follow the path of confrontation with civilization, which is what was once popular in the western world, now leaders like you, Prime Minister, are putting forward their own initiatives , they will help create a dialogue between civilizations, which can be positive, help create the principles of International Relations that you spoke about, the next question is, what do you think about the g20 declaration and which one is yours . Thank you, first of all i want to confirm what you said regarding indian civilization, russian civilization, this is exactly what i said in my opening speech, india is certainly the oldest in the world a civilization, powerful, huge, with enormous potential, russia , also a separate. Civilization, look, we have over 190 peoples, nationalities, ethnic groups living in russia, more than 270 dialect languages, well , of course, isnt this a civilization, and india has a lot a professional, multinational country, huge, its just that we are between all civilizations, these are not the only world civilizations, we need to establish a dialogue, a balance of interests. And mechanisms for maintaining this balance, as for the work of the g20, this is certainly a success of the indian leadership and personally of the Prime Minister, mr. Modi, this is a success, and the indian leadership was able to find and achieve this balance, including in the declaration, some closed. Associations, they do not have much prospects, and the balance is changing, well, what seems to me to be the success of the twenty in india is that the Prime Minister managed to depoliticize the decisions that were made at the twenty, and this is the only correct approach, because the twenty. Was once given as a platform for discussions of economic not political issues and the politicization of the twenty is simply a sure way to its selfdestruction, and the indian leadership managed to avoid this, and this is an unconditional success, but as for the fact that some associations are closed, they are flawed, then. This thesis seems to me , its difficult to refute, because the balance of forces is changing, look, just recently everyone there was shuddering and watching, but what will happen as a result of the meeting of the seven . And the largest economies of the world are gathering, what are they going to decide there now, what consequences will be for of the world economy, well, brix, even before the expansion, before the expansion, the economy of the brix countries already accounted for more than 51 of world gdp, respectively, the economy of the seven was less than 50 one, and now, after the admission of additional members of the brix organization, the volume of the economy of the countries there are even more members of brix than members of the seven, so the real balance of potential forces is very important, in this sense , open areas are always better, always more promising, always more valuable, because they create conditions for finding compromises mutually acceptable solutions, but if we talk about the results of brix, about the results of the work of the g20, i want to repeat once again, i would like to end the answer to your question here, this is the unconditional success of Prime Minister moli. Vladimir vladimirovich, but you didnt go to brix, you didnt go to twenty either, and dont you feel a little deprived that you dont have the opportunity to go everywhere you want . Deprived were those who decided to be deprived of some social payments in the first years of soviet power, so, for us, social payments are not needed, we are a selfsufficient state and we are following this path, there were still some civilians who were ruled, well, yes, they were deprived, which means that we are defending our rights, im sure we will ensure them, this is the first second, well, why should i create any problems for our friends during these events. You and i are adults and we understand, yes, i arrived, political attacks will begin there, which means the show is political, so all this will be aimed at disrupting the events, but why, we are first of all interested in brix went well, smoothly with results, the twenty passed, at the required level, all this happened, we are quite happy with it, and finally, the third, after all, there is enough to do at home. That is, you werent offended by the president . Well, is this our friend . And is he on you . What is this for . No, we agreed with him, he came, came to russia twice, we met with him , talked for a long time, there were no problems, and i think that he carried out a brilliant brix, to be honest, i didnt even expect such, such diplomatic from him art, because if you followed how the discussion went on, because it was not easy to resolve the issue of expanding brix, but he did it, he so politely , tactfully, repeatedly returned to the same topic, and once, and twice, and three times, finally, there was a consensus, it was achieved, this is a positive result, we welcome it, next year you will be in his place , you already know who we will receive, well , next year yes, we are chairing brix, and of course, we will strive to to take over the baton from south africa, we will be holding for the first time summit with the participation of new members of the organization, well, we have planned 200 events within the framework of brix, this will happen in a year, i am sure a lot of positive work has been done to strengthen the organization, which is becoming more and more authoritative, powerful, and this will certainly benefit the members organization, and the entire international community, it originated in russia , brix, let me remind you how it was, at first we proposed to gather the three of us, russia, india, china, and agreed that we would meet on a regular basis, thats how it arose, rick arose, russia, india, china, then brazil expressed a desire and readiness to join the discussion, brick turned out, and then south africa, south africa turned out to be brix, and now we, we have come to expansion and expanded the number of members of the organization. In my opinion, this is very important, it testifies to the growth of authority and desire, thats the most important thing, the desire to join a format that does not oblige anyone to anything, does not impose anything on anyone, but simply creates conditions for finding compromises and decision of those issues that all participating countries are interested in resolving, we are happy about this, we believe that this is a positive process, we will take algeria. Algeria is our friend, of course, a traditional friend, in the arab world , in north africa, we believe that this would benefit the organization, but we certainly must work through these issues with all our friends within the brix, in contact with the algerian leadership itself , do this calmly, without creating problems for the organization, but only creating additional ways for general development, thank you, dayan jeitelek, here you go here, thank you, mr. President , i represent sri lanka, i was ambassador to the russian federation, the western bloc decided to demolish ukraine with longterm destruction. Missiles that can reach the territory of the russian federation, and they also wanted to provide the f16. It is obvious that you are now faced with war, with imperialism , a proxy war, and as you have already said, there are nazi elements here, from a historical point of view, mr. President , imperialism was fought on the battlefield. These are chinese communists, communists in north korea and vietnam. They defeated the United States. As for imperialism, he was criticized the most. The question is next. In the face of this challenge, this threat. From these side. Perhaps its time to reevaluate 1917 because the chinese, vietnamese and north koreans were this years babies . Dont you think its time to look at the events of these years, as well as the us relationship with its allies, and france, etc. Also with china during the chinese revolution, thats my question, im sorry, im sorry, please clarify take the microphone, please reconsider what and who needs to reconsider what, you have such a complex question, since 1917, if i understand correctly, a colleague is asking whether its time to reconsider towards a more positive attitude towards the revolution . The period of our history of our history of 1917, well this and beyond, im sorry that im interpreting, but why do you need to interpret when there is an author of this question . Briefly what i am talking about as we are exposed. And since in history there have already been cases of successful victory in china in korea, in vietnam, victories over imperialism. And lenin wrote texts about imperialism. Perhaps the time has come to criticize the events of 1917 less and restore the historical status of those events, like the french revolution. Criticize less the events of those years, including in russia itself, as i understand it, yes, you are right, right in the sense that you need to engage less in criticism, and more engage in such a deep, in this case even scientific analysis, of realities. Which were happening at that time, which are happening now, yes, you are right, the only thing is that it is necessary to give such deep assessments, including assessments related to ideologization, now i will speak my own opinion, my own opinion, everyone present here can argue with him, it is necessary to give correct assessments of ideologists for interstate relations and geopolitical interests, except for relations between classes of relations, within the framework of the socalled class struggle, but we did not attach importance, and even after the events of 1991, after the collapse of the soviet union, we still were in the paradigm of class relations of ideological relations, and did not notice that there are purely geopolitical interests, here are relations with the chinese peoples republic of the west, there was a moment when they tried, and not unsuccessfully, to pit china against the soviet union, and russia, because china was the most weak, its not scary, now that china has begun to grow , it is under the leadership of the same communist party and today it was presided over by xi pinya, power is increasing almost every day, well, thats it, now there is already a return to, when they tried to use it in china, then they forgot about all ideological differences, and now they are reviving them again, but in essence, at the core, at the heart of us policy towards china, are fears of a geopolitical nature. Does this really bother anyone . No, its just a tool to fight china, thats all, the same thing in relation to russia, in general , globally, well, yes, we need to give such general, general, deeper ones, i agree with you that its indiscriminate, everything should be thrown away there history, everything that happened under the leadership of the communist parties of that time, about which you said, of course, indiscriminately paint all this with the same paint, it is inappropriate and even, even harmful, in this sense i agree with you, well, since we are talking about china, mr. Liugan, 尊近的先生 , , , , , , 8月举行的金专封会上,有六个国家加入了 金专合作机制。林认为在推动南方国家合作方面的 重点是什么 . 中额都是新星发展中国家可协守发挥什么样的作用。此外, 金专, 此外,俄罗斯在应对美西方 持续的制裁方面将会有什么样的举错 . China, in the latest meetings of the valdai club we talked about brix, and this is very important, we also saw that after the us and some western countries escalated sanctions against russia, the global south did not follow their example, and showed strategic independence during the brix summit in august , this. Its history of cooperation. China and russia are important developing countries, and what can our countries do to expand cooperation within the global south, what are the main areas that need to be strengthened, and what needs to be done in the face of new sanctions from the United States and some western countries, what else can russia do to cope with this challenge . Thank you. Today, cooperation between russia and the peoples republic of china is certainly a very important factor stabilizing international life, this is the first, second, in order for this influence to grow, first of all, we need to Pay Attention to maintaining the pace of our Economic Growth, so. I already said, this year in russia in russia, Economic Growth, i dont remember whether i said it or not, but i spoke about some aspects, if. said then i repeat, but Economic Growth this year will be somewhere around 2. 8, and maybe 3 , closer to three, i say this very carefully, but closer to 3 , and for our economy, for the structure that russia has , economic, this is a good result , we have completely overcome the recession of last year and. In china, growth, as far as i know, will already be 6. 4 , this is a very good indicator, no matter what anyone says about the slowdown, growth of the chinese economy, all this is chatter and idle, idle talk, because china ensures these high rates and is, in fact, one of the leading engines of the world economy. The same thing is happening in india, there is even more growth, 7. 6 there, in my opinion , therefore, these are the countries of the global south, they are gaining momentum, our task is to ensure this leadership, this is the first, second in the field of security, we see , what is happening in europe, we see that one of the ways to provoke and create a crisis in ukraine was irresponsibility. First of all the United States, to expand nato to the borders of the russian federation, but they are doing the same on in the east, by creating various closed military groups, they are stepping on the same rake that they were advancing in europe, so it is important for us to respond to this in a timely manner; we will expand our interaction in the security sphere. At the same time, we are not creating any blocs against anyone, but we are forced to react to what is happening around our states, and finally, we will certainly implement those Infrastructure Development plans that are related to the construction of greater eurasia, the eurasian economic union, and the plans of our chinese friends to develop the idea, one train, one way, i have already spoken about this , i think it is very promising, but finally, we have a lot of cooperation planned in the humanitarian spheres, in the field of culture, student exchanges, sports, this is extremely important for the neighboring state, and we are implementing fairly Large Infrastructure Projects already on a bilateral basis and will continue to do so, i hope we. Will discuss all this in the near future during our meeting with chairman sidinpin in within the framework of the forum, which the chairman is holding in beijing in october of this year, so Mikhail Rostovsky there, vladimir vladimirovich, ukraines accession to nato is categorically unacceptable for russia. As far as i remember your last speech, regarding ukraines accession to the European Union, you were are much less negative. Has your point of view changed over the past year, will russia object to ukraines accession to the European Union, do you consider such accession possible in principle . We never objected or expressed some negative position. In relation to the plans for ukraines accession to the European Economic community, never, as for nato, yes, we have always been against it, and this position has certain serious grounds, since the expansion of nato to our borders directly threatens our security, this is the most serious challenge for security of the russian federation. This is not only a political bloc, it is a militarypolitical bloc and the approach of infrastructure poses a serious threat to us, but as for what regarding the economic interaction of any country, economic unions, we do not see any military threat to ourselves, therefore we do not consider ourselves entitled to even discuss this topic, this is a matter for ukraine itself and european states. At one time, president yanukovych, by the way, without renouncing the association with the European Union, said that we simply need to further study these issues. Believes that the terms of the agreement in creating this association with the European Union pose certain serious threats to the ukrainian economy, in fact, if you read that it was written there, he was absolutely right, there was the opening of borders, the creation of absolutely unacceptable conditions for the functioning of the ukrainian economy, the ukrainian real sector of the economy, well, the product is a more competitive european one, the opening of the ukrainian market for these goods was extremely destructive for the real sector of the economy itself, ukraine itself, being drawn into the Energy Structures of the European Union, also deprived ukraine of certain advantages, so if you just analyze it objectively, but the rules yanukovych, they used this as a reason for a coup detat, well, some kind of nonsense, i just dont know, just a reason, i dont know, a crime , a real one, but today its no longer relevant, because by and large, the ukrainian economy can exist without external fuel it cant either, today everything is different, today look, everything is balanced on the whole externally, and the budget is balanced in ukraine, macroeconomically. Well, at the expense of what . Due to monthly multibillion dollar injections, somewhere around 45 billion monthly according to various channels, these are loans, all sorts of grants and so on, they come to ukraine , as soon as this is stopped, thats it, in a week everything will fall, thats it, the same goes for the defense system, well , imagine, supplies will stop tomorrow, youll only have to live for a week , when the ammunition runs out, yes, they will run out in the west, i already said, the usa produces 14,000 155caliber shells, and ukrainian troops burn up to 5,000 per day, and there they produce 14 per month, well, you know what were talking about, but they are trying to increase production there up to 75 k the end of next year, but we still have to live until the end of next year. And in europe, the situation is approximately the same, they themselves say, they said that we, we supplied all the Armored Vehicles, ammunition, we did everything for ukraine, they themselves said, it wasnt me who came up with this, they publicly stated that we did everything they did it for this, now its up to ukraine, let them counteroffensive, and then add in the kulaars at any cost, believe me. I know what im talking about, so they do it, they try to do it at any cost, thats it, but its worth it, this is the question of demilitarization of ukraine, it is now trying to produce something else, but little is working, even these unmanned vehicles and aircraft that move by sea, everything happens with the help of western advisers and intermediaries, so. Ready, the European Union is ready to accept such an economy into its compound . Flag in hand forward, but in order to maintain the vitality of the population, which has already decreased from thirtyone or from the beginning of the postsoviet period there from 41 million to 19 and a half, and maybe even that is no longer there, but still 19 million need to be fed, this its not an easy matter, European Countries are ready to take such an economy, well, let them take it, we were never against it before the aggravation of this crisis, were not against it now, but i already said what was happening in the european economy itself, well, that was it would be very noble of them to take also the economy of ukraine in its current state, there are also certain funds, certain procedures for equalizing, equalizing, the level of economic development, but i dont know how much, right now colleague from hungary spoke about how much hungary is now receiving from these, from these funds , well, it wont receive anything, of course, because everything will go to ukraine, and there wont be enough, nothing, no one will do anything. No one, that means, if the level, the level of wellbeing has dropped by one and a half over the last couple of years there. Then it will not only fall to zero, it will go into minus, however, i dont want to be ironic , i dont want to force anything, this is just the reality , but, but if this happens, we do not consider ourselves to have the right to somehow counteract it and even uh, negative to speak out on this matter, vladimir, is there really still a line left between nato and the eu, these are the same countries, well, i think that after all, the eu is not a military bloc, and why is that all . , transfer everything to the eu platform, if there is nato , as you said, these are the same countries, they make the appropriate decisions within the framework of this organization, nato in fact is, first of all, an instrument of us foreign policy, so they provoked the conflict to an acute phases in ukraine. United their allies and satellites around themselves, in fact, demanded that they take measures in the fight against russia, they took these measures , the United States immediately took advantage of this situation in the economic sphere, imposed its own, expensive Energy Resources, made decisions related to increasing. Its economy and its markets . And why, this is a fact. Many Industrial Enterprises in europe and germany decide to move to the United States. Here is the end result of this whole chain. Well, if i, i know, im sure, many people in europe dont like this, but they still see it but they cant do anything, and todays european elites, apparently, are not ready to fight for their interests, they simply cannot, they are not ready, the dependence is very large in the economic sphere, in part its even possible to understand them, well, thats why im sure gradually everything will level out, and the same states, in my opinion, are making a colossal strategic mistake, simply a colossal one, as i said, at Public Events of various kinds, they put pressure on their allies, and then questions arise like from a colleague from germany, here afd raises cities, an alternative for germany , will of course be raised this way, because no one from the ruling class is fighting for the interests of germany, thats why this is happening, is it not clear to you, or what . This is an obvious thing, and so well, lets see how this situation develops, they want, the ukrainians want to join the eu, let them join, the europeans are ready to accept them, let them accept, the day before yesterday was just the day of german unity, i read in which newspaper that there was a big problem there, Gerhard Schroder came to the event, all active politicians were solving the problem of how not to end up next to him because he is your friend. Do you still have friends in germany, by the way . You know, the point is not whether i still have friends in germany, although i have friends there, and their number is growing, strange as it may seem to me, at the expense of those stefan is talking about, no, it doesnt matter, first of all, at the expense of those who pursue the interests of their own people and do not want to serve the interests of others, as for schroder, germany should be proud of people like him, he is a true son of his people. He before thinks about the interests of the german people, i assure you, with every decision , he always, first of all, in the corner of the corner when discussing any issue that we discussed with him, raised questions about the interests of the German Economy and the german state, and today what is happening, thats us they built nord stream 1 with him and almost started nord stream 2, they started it with him, they blew up these infrastructure systems, and where is the German Economy now, where is it . So, those who are trying to stay away from him would think about what he did for interests of their people, and what are they doing today, and what is the result . So, rakhim, yes , shakbaev, and good evening, excuse me, what surprises me, ill tell you honestly, it surprises me that such people, such politicians. In europe in general still exist, that they have survived at all, this is surprising, im telling you this sincerely, because the generation of people who are able to defend National Interests , in my opinion, simply selfliquidated it, disappeared somewhere, good evening, there were a lot of discussions here at the valdai club, and which noted the imperfection and injustice of the structure of the World Monetaryeconomic system, world finance, the world economy, and many experts pinned great hopes on brix plus, but could you share your vision of the desired, most importantly, possible structure of the World Monetary economic system, and what discussions are taking place . You have brix inside, regarding the single currency, thank you, well, as for the Global Financial system, it is certainly not ideal, balanced and responsive look, i i have already spoken about this, i will repeat again, at the russiaafrica summit, colleagues said that our african friends mentioned that the credit burden of african states in dollars is such that it is not possible to pay off debts, this it will simply never be done, well, what is it, what kind of system of International Financial relations is this that gave rise to such a state, this is some kind of indemnity, these are not loans, this is already beyond the scope of normal economic and financial relations, the modern financial system, it gave birth to such a state, brought it to this state. Thats why i then jokingly, jokingly said that only cowards pay debts, but this, but also warned that this is a joke, thats a but, but this is not normal when such a situation is created, and of course to change something, this is the bartanwood system , it, it was once created on the basis of. The dollar and so on, but , but all this is gradually collapsing, collapsing, because a currency is a derivative of the power of the countrys economy, which imitates this currency, on the share, share, of the American Economy in world gdp remains the same, this is also an obvious thing , this is. Data, the share of the brics countries, i also talked about this, in terms of purchasing power, in relation to the share of the seven countries, it is increasing, increasing, especially after the adoption new members to the organization, this is a serious significance, the difference is already quite serious, yes, the economy of the United States, the eurozone, it is based on. On modern technologies, which means that per capita income is much higher than in developing economies, but the trend is that what, everything goes into a negative recession there, in the brix countries, this is such growth, even after the blows to the russian economy, and apparently they were calculated on the fact that the country would simply fall apart, the economy would fall apart, and the country, russia, would fall apart. We not only overcame all the difficulties of last year, but also gained 3 Economic Growth, which means 3 unemployment. Debts are being reduced, which means we have significantly reduced external debt, all our companies are servicing all their debt obligations. Yes, we have there is. Problems, we see them, nonreturn of proceeds, which means there is a weakening of the national currency, we see it, both the central bank and the government are reacting to this, i am sure that the steps are correct and the results will be good, but, but, but, as for brix, what we need now is not to create a single currency. We need to establish a settlement system, create financial logistics, in order to ensure settlements between ours , switch to settlements in national currencies, while understanding what is happening with our national currencies, macroeconomic the indicators of our economies , you mean Exchange Rate differences, that means inflationary processes, a difficult situation, but it can be solved, we need to work on it, here we were yesterday with experts, with ours. Discussed this issue, including the possibility of creating a single brix currency, well, theoretically, yes, its probably possible, but in order to ever approach this, we need to achieve a certain parity in the development of the economies of our countries, but this a very longterm perspective, at one time, as my colleagues told me, the eurozone moved from to the euro, to a single currency, without thinking about how it would work in relation to countries with Different Levels of economic development, and problems arose, why should we step on the same hornbeams, its just that such an issue is not even on the agenda, but to work on improving the whole systems of financial and Global Finance and financial relations within the framework of brix, we of course must and will do this. Weve already been working for 3 hours, youre not tired of us yet, well, how can i say that, i understand. Ok, well finish soon, so, madam, mr. President , chairman of the francophone organization, i am a true friend of your country, just like my family, and i stand for friendship between russia and france, more and more people in france and in europe share the same points of view. Friendship and partnership between russia and france was one of the pillars of my grandfathers policy, i want to restore this. France is based on fundamental values, such as family, patriotism, and spiritual responsibility, these are what are now disappearing in the western world, it seems to me that these fundamental values are very important for creating peace and for Mutual Understanding between peoples. It seems to me that the conflict in ukraine is an ideological conflict, it is even a conflict of civilization, because on the one hand, there is the western world, which has lost its soul, which has exchanged everything for the ego, for seven minutes of pleasure, history has shown us that civilization cannot live like that. On the other hand, there is a multipolar world, subgroups of russia, china, india, african countries, arab countries, these people, these peoples are ready to fight for their traditional values, fundamental values, for me, mr. President , this is an ideological conflict, which is why i believe that it will continue and expand, but what do you think . Firstly, i want to say that it is a great honor for us to host the grandson of general degol in russia. The current president and i somehow touched upon some issues in passing, and i said, i can repeat myself here, there is no secret, i dont want to give any historical ratings. Everything was very difficult, but for us in russia, despite the difference in military rank, the hero is not the marshal petain, and general de gaulle, because he personified france and its desire for freedom, independence, dignity, and the heroes, the pilots of the normandyman squadron. Yes, today the situation is different, today in france, there are completely different people, and its not about age, about views on the role, on the importance of france, on even maybe its history, on its future, i wont make judgments, its not ours business, this is the business of the french people themselves, but i know that there are many people with the views that you represent, and true friends in france, friends of russia. And their number is growing, but will this situation worsen further from the point of view of the development of the situation in the world, taking into account the fact that , as you said, such an ideological confrontation will continue, but it will never end, this is obvious, these various currents, no matter what guise they take, of course. They will always fight among themselves, this is obvious, but in my opinion, nevertheless, awareness of the importance, the enduring significance of National Values ​​and traditions, it will gradually, gradually to Gain Momentum in European Countries, and in the states themselves, in this sense, i think that the ideological confrontation will continue, but still the future belongs to nationally oriented forces in the world, and a balance between them on the world stage must be achieved, as i spoke in his speech through the search for compromises between civilizations. Dear colleagues, we are really running out of time, come on. But the questions are still short, please try short questions, i ll try, thank you, konstantin starysh, republic of moldova, parliamentary opposition, my question is this sooner or later, this conflict will end anyway, and i want to believe that some kind of reassembly will begin. Relations between russia and the west. I say very selfishly, because when this kind of confrontation occurs in countries like moldova, such countries are very feverish, feverish both economically and politically. So i would like to believe that such a process of reconfiguring relations, which will determine the fate of Greater Europe for the decade ahead, will nevertheless begin. To your view, vladimir vladimirovich, the role that countries like moldova can play in this process and what, what place they can take in this future structure that will arise as a result of this process, thank you, it depends on the people of moldova, no, ill explain now , let me explain, if the people of moldova vote for those people who want to give up a significant part of their sovereignty. To other countries to trail behind these interests, then they will take a position in accordance with this and will occupy a certain role, so and will not be seen or heard, but if they follow the path of preserving sovereignty, national dignity, preserving their national traditions, then, as i said in my speech, we will. Ensure that all countries, regardless of their size, economic status, have an equal voice, so that everyone treats each other as equals, i dont know how it will all work out, but our position is this, this is what we will strive for, yes please, here is the hand was raised there, not there, yes the man raised his hand, yes, yes, and kubat rakhimov, kyrgyz republic, a short question we see a successful case of creating a gas union between russia and uzbekistan and kazakhstan. This year, already in october , uzbekistan will receive russian gas. But we have two more problems in central asia water and energy. This is how you , vladimir vladimirovich, assess the prospects for creating an introductory and energy union in which russia would be an active player. And moderator of processes to avoid social instability and even armed conflicts, thank you, regarding energy, right