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Cross stuck in ukraine. Im joined by my guess, got rid of in delmar. He is a former Intelligence Officer and the United Nations weapons inspector in San Francisco. We have k, j. Know he is a political analyst and journalist and in washington state. We cross the andre beyond the he is a writer as well as a military and political analyst. Gentlemen, cost suckles and effect. That means you can jump any time you want. And i always appreciate, scott, let me go to you 1st here. We can talk about maneuvers on the battlefield and the intrigues behind closed doors. What the economist likes to say. But i thought that, you know, tony blinking a rendition of neil youngs uh, a rocking in the new world really says it. All right . So earlier in the day, hes saying, you know, whos supporting you democracy in ukraine where it doesnt exist, or ukraine is an ex president now or holding office, presumably illegally. But he had time to go down to a basement and sing a song that actually has a completely different meaning that its original one. So for me, tony blinking tells us everything we know about this utterly failed proxy war scott as well. We also need to point out that the basement city formed in the midst of a memorial to the asia. Hawkins mentioned that there, there is movement and everything that represents the reality, right . This 1st section that the blinking in the American Government have been portrayed, you know, this conflict has always been from its inception a proxy war between ukraine and russia, where the United States and the west used to create a to achieve the strategic defeat of rush and we could never forget that, that the goals and objectives the United States was, is in will be until the change of the strategic defeat of russia. And we need to be more specific to that. 9 it means the toppling of the coaching government. It means removing wherever out. And this was the objective sanctioning russia. It was designed to destroy the russian economy, to collapse the russian economy, and to get the russian people to turn against their government. Then the idea of when he prayed was never to have ukraine when this wasnt great. But they had this war drag on in perpetuity, exhausting rush morally economically, physically and again, trading the last straw, so to speak. That would cause the people of russia to rise up at the might on moment to remove food from power. This was the goal, is the goal and will continue to be the goal. We should never allow ourselves to lose touch of that reality by looking at whats happening on the battlefield. The battle field is irrelevant to that, frank. And so this is why prisons, i think you see. So youre getting that row of the newly pointed the foreign minister of russia. I say, it looks like were heading to a hot war with the west with United States, because frankly speaking, we are ready to have work between United States and russia. United states has not changed its policy framework. We cannot talk about peaceful coexistence so long as were talking about the strategic defeat of pressure. Therefore, when you train loses and they are losing and they will lose United States and europe, were gonna have to do something more to continue is because we cant at this point in time except the feet, because that the failure to strategically to see russia means its a 0 sum game that we ourselves are strategically defeated once now, and thats a craving choice. Scott, thats what makes it even worse. Thats a choice on the part of the west. And today we need to continue on with what, what scott was saying. Here we ukraine is asking nato to train them up to the sun, trainers to ukraine, to train up a 150000 recruits. Thats is that lensky was i begging for the, the west nato to put a target on their back. Is nato going to fall for it . I was already doing this in a less space. 3 hours are that is your, those so gold 3 and are the same as the god, the repair, somehow of major or has been on the ground and you frame from the day was so, i mean, its all this every duration, oregon organizational, the same old you know brain, you know, oh god, i sense, you know, some kind of advisors were going to some this and that is being their friend. They was, they just simply because they were on the news side go and they think that the public is primarily cause they Attention Span all the got the fuse, they just repeat the rate and reiterate the same point over and over again. To demonstrate that something is being bought, i agree with score absolutely actually will also in terms of the serve is your goal is going to forget about National Security or golf served or the United States strategy old United States or bought the race roster. Theres the if the special ed, i mean, it actually has a bad running troops roughly, well done. It is the registrar i know. So, but yeah its, its good. Its going to continue like this, but the fact that they have targets theyve been killed. Many of them already, so its nothing new. Im here. Yeah. Well it would certainly be a much more public debating processment, and thats maybe thats maybe thats acceptable. Okay. Uh yeah. Hey j its very interesting is we had the estonian prime minister, kyle a call us at a conference over the weekend. Um, calling for the break up of russia. Its really quite amazing is ukraine get smaller and smaller d populated di, industrialized, and worse. You have a little tiny country like this. Tony is saying that the natos agenda essentially should be the breakup of russia, echoing with scott just said, go ahead and youre absolutely right. And you know, this is, this is the fools reward for failure is greater ambition. This is what we say, were seeing a complete failure both in the political dimension, but also in doctrine, not simply on the battlefield in tactical dimension. But in doctrine itself, we seeing a complete failure and a complete breakdown and their response is to bet hi. This is the losing gambler wanting to make an even higher bet. Yeah, this is a, a sun cost fallacy. Thats what thats called. Its got, i, i sense here and i, i dont have any faith whatsoever in the honesty of a anthony blinking. I, i personally think that they are taught theres talk for a pink slippers, a lensky, there could be, they may need a change to be able to change the narrative with these with him. Still, they are, its not going to work for me much longer here. And that brings up the blame game, and theres so many different blame games being played right now. Scott, look. So lets each time is on this planet. I shouldnt say, well, im just, but youre saying the truths, god. Okay. Because hes put himself into the position. I want everybody watching this program to know ukraine and its leadership volunteered for this exercise. Volunteer not victims volunteer. He volunteered for this scott, keep going. I mean, i agree with you for i just want to make sure that i dont come across as some sort of what theres the, you know, psychopath who wishes the demise of though none of us views of zaleski deserves whatever faith he gets. So, and so does the ukraine government they are especially its president i, i believe, is not going to be around as long as were reaching the in game of this conflict. And that doesnt mean the strategic conflict that we are taking later. We have talked about the specific proxy, con, flushing, new cream is engaged space. And so lets see, will not be the person that termination of this thought rushed to, i cant see the but smart enough leave that when you start articulating the solicitous was legitimacy because of this is mandy less mandate and theyre approachable. And they put him on a wanted list of that. That means that just that the zalinski is now a criminal criminal status. And that if you craig once decided to go sheet it into the settlement, they will have to find somebody other than zaleski and the west right now, i believe is transitioning away from a proxy conflict ukraine which they know is lost into the broader strategic conflict between the western russia, not necessarily a hard conflict, although thats the direction youre heading, but a new cold war i believe is the direction that well, you know, its interesting. And scott, because a lot of what office said that in the last news cycle that and ill direct us to, im today right now is that let me quote him here. Russia wont view western europe as a partner for again, for at least one generation. I tend to agree with that on why, because nobody in the west is trustworthy. Andre, as well as cellphone or dad or because ulcer combine. Europe is not there. Blair, calling be wanted to reset the ball or send the world. This is United States, china and roger and paul, this 3 arrange things between them. Thats only a matter of fewer up is in consequential, militarily you economically look alone ga, strongly, socially and politically. So yeah, and in this particular case, what to the restaurant is a couple said, or United States or rush outbound to interact in some form. Be that cold war as a score characters favorite, you know, be the indirect strategies lose your body space. Lots to do, you know, in terms of the conflict, but it will be in the direction is um for in terms of you or if there is nothing to talk about to book with cool. You know, theyre not even players. Well, i think they let me get a good, let me go. Okay, let me go ahead here before we go to the right here. I think were all on the same page here because i think there is a shift going on right now and you need a fall guy and that guy is zalinski. Yeah, absolutely. You know, ive said right from the get go. That zalinski had a very, very short life. He fits into a pattern of us quiz links that are used and discarded, and he should have seen that coming. But i, you know, i said that he was of the eastern european, the d m. That he was not for long in this, in the political arena, if in this world. And so i think that, you know, the chickens are coming home to roost. Clearly the actor has lost the script and hes no longer able to give the order of the presentation that he was hired to do. And therefore theyre going to bring on another actor. Yeah, and they, and we can discuss that in the next part of the program. If thats going to be a new in the military, because you know, they all know each other, its been a Long Time Coming as a similar education background and whatnot. So there are a lot of affinities, only this kind of band or i, i, the ology has got in the way field on by the west. All right, gentlemen, im going to jump in here. Were going to go to a short break. And after that short break, well continue our discussion on ukraine. Stay with our to the take a fresh look around his life. Kaleidoscopic isnt just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. Fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better world. And is it just because it shows you fractured images, present it is, but can you see through their illusion going underground . Can the, the other you look up whats going on on your flow of it when you talk with bob, bob got them on the weight of the money for the theater. If as little as the medias for that please just get the agenda. You assess it with read you a couple, i get those go for need a lot more. So those are the doors of familiar with just a moment. As i said, lets see. Lets see. Lets just as soon as i make you submitted on the pnc and then which assessment, when you put it, you got it got to get the, the, the acceptance and im here to plan with you. Whatever you do. Do not watch my new show seriously. Why . Watch something thats so different whitelisted opinions that he wont get anywhere else. What kind of plans are due to have the stake . Apartment, c, i a weapons makers, multi 1000000000. 00 corporations. Choose your fax for you. Go ahead, change and whatever you do. Dont want my show stay main street because im probably going to make you uncomfortable. My show is called stretching time. But again, its not. We dont want to watch it because it might just change the way you think. The welcome back to across stock were all things are considered computer la belcher menu. Were discussing ukraine. The okay, lets go back to scott, you know, its gotten you and i, on this program weve been talking about the this entire part of the conflict. This is a conflict has been going on for 10 years and not uh, since 2022. And i think the, you know, the, the, in another conflict and youll know the reference that im making the day after. Okay. In that complex, i think its a, its an exercise in futility. But i think the end of this conflict in ukraine it is more meaningful. And i think its, and theres an interesting debate that is developing here. Because on the one hand, what i would like to see is the complete breakup of, of nato, and the restructuring about security arrangements in europe. Thats probably not going to happen because the west, they will be a sore loser. They will want an ugly piece. Well, wont this the defeat and ukraine actually in bolden, you nato, because now they have a strictly identified target that they want revenge. Because nato is, is losing losing badly. And its showing itself to be essentially a paper tiger. But this will give the re brussels a reason the you to have a war economy. What you, how do you go on that argument . First of all, we need russia to decide how this war and good one of the good point aspect. The Long Distance observer is um, you know, i, andre k j you, we can all speculate about how we like to see this conflict. Yeah. But the russian government has yet to fully articulate what do you not cation, the militarization means what . The final delineation of ukraine will be, that is the key because if russia allows a cancerous tumor to remain, then the less job would be to get that cancers to over to grow. And to, in fact, russia, russia has to eliminate the cancer stewart. If they do that, i think thats the end of nato and the end of the European Union. Because now, rather than doing the kind of proxy driven conflict, the america, they will like to engage. And they will be confronted with the reality of a direct conflict that they cant afford. And they dont fall apart. I believe natos already falling apart. And i believe that russia is this conflict decisively where they terminate the cancerous tumor that is banned. There is ukraine, that nato will have to pay the bill. I mean, they, they cant afford the military, they claim they want to bill. And when they start to argue about this debate is especially of russia counters with responsible diplomacy, leading towards a European Security framework that is regional. And we know the rush. It is reasonable. One only has to look at the stuff will communicate that russia was offering ukraine back in april of 2022. To see the rush is the most reasonable actor out there when it comes to articulating, not only its needs, but the needs of those worded adversary. Relationship, i think russia is going to put on the table an offer to europe, about peace and prosperity and co existence. That nato, that makes nato. Oh, do, conceivable. When that needle will fall apart of its own volition rush, you wont have to do anything. But if the rush you allows it cancers tumor named ukraine, that has some band there is ideology, ideological, a residence then data will just attach to that in a parasite fashion and try and get that to a continued strategic ambition to breaking down, right . So that should be, thats basically the have the same question now directed to our, on the right. Thats assuming that we have rational actors in europe. Go ahead on the right. Yeah, thats true. We dont or, and there is another thing which scott mentioned to derek. Are correctly there, or if im only work on the European Union is on the work of, of is broke so they can talk about warner. And i mean, what if, what you want. But if you look at, then somebody called the economies doesnt the great, especially when you look at the danger service, ational, germany and walters, competing in france for example. Its not just only being able to be able to me live resource, which they dont that mean that may draw equipment turned out to be absolutely unsuitable for the more than a better opium. But its the fact that what you have is on for manual. And so, so much and building complex in terms of the, uh, the pump it down to the labor force and youre using it with the best of off it for me and speed. So, and in this case, we have this a 4 digit factor, all their different moment framework, which thousands walk financial, capitalism is a bar its bomb. It doesnt work. So, and the real economy is the only way to go, how they will go, i dont think so they have god where they have to be some people because of the implosion. Hold hold. Is it lead to making machines . There are some, you know, nobody will get bored, your body. Johnson. If you have degree and the classics, i mean the really and so i mean, this is the guard, well, least the better bulk as she is jen miserably challenge. You know, so you look at those people, they are being allowed them to me below the in front of my house, for there is nothing coming off of that they have a classical, i cant say it on this program, but he does have a degree in classical something ill let the viewers fill in the blank here. Okay, and k, you know, when scott came on right after the beginning of this phase of the conflict, i asked scott the question, whos got the clocks and whos got the time . Whos got the clocks and whos got the time in this case because i find it really kind of frivolous. When you see in western media, it depends on what happens before the november election is if the russians give a quote about american elections, they dont go ahead cage it. Yeah, absolutely not. Do you know there is an ideological uniformity which means that it is not going to make a significant difference for them. But youre absolutely right. The multi polar world is rising. These are tech tonic ships that are happening and they have the time. And the us, you can, you know, fiddle with all the clocks that it wants to, but it is not going to change the direction of time. Time is moving forward. Its moving in the direction of multi polarity and theres nothing that they can do. We see the failure not only of doctrine of war doctrine of joint all domain um, network warfare. But we see the failure of the doctrine that they had, as well as the failure of legitimacy and the end rationality. You know, its got i, we started out the program talking about the food named blinking in, in, during his visit to kids. And a number of people have commented on how it was choreographed 3 cameras. All these different angles. But see, thats what american policy is. Its all perception, thats all it is. I mean, my sense was that i saw that footage is that blinking is having netflix make a documentary about him that thats his top priority. Thats the top priority of all of these people. How they look with their legacy is and what boards are go to sit on after this failure. Scott, a 100 percent records say the last american system was because its not about governance. I mean, take, it was with russia just, im not here to sing the praises of russia. Its not my job, but you have to give credit. Refresh this, do you just had a president ial election, which was designed to create a mandate that allows the russian government to move in a direction to where the current leader, who is 71 years old. Very well be the leader in or how does russia survive beyond that . How does worship build institutions become a nation state that is big picture stuff, that Strategic Thinking that involves the nation. Totally. Blanking and everybody in the body ministration are focused on that. Theyre focused on the revolving door of cynics year from government desinik here. How do i leave the government . Go to getting for, become a active or an associate professor at harvard, yale, columbia. And then hang on for another 4 years in hopes that somebody who is politically aligned with my way of thinking. My philosophies recharged the white house. And i can once again cross through the revolving door, you know, to be back into governmental relevance. But its a very selfish, self centered approach. Wheres the rushing approach is about whats best for the nation . Whats best for the russian people . Whats best for the world . America used to be the country. Were not the country you know under. Im glad that scott brought up uh the president ial election here in the new government thats come into power. And we have a, a new secretary of the, of defense and its very interesting his background. Hes an economist here. It looks like theres a long vision here about how the economy needs to operate with rushes, new Foreign Policy priorities. And thats basically defending himself against the west. Yeah, bills of a Strategic Bank are many people are the shooting of forget actually the fact that while me fighting the shooting, probably the best that im going to manager, which historic roster had in decades is more generations and used to belong most of us the brain behind the, our economic, our strategy in russia, and shell be putting a few into the position of their all man who is in charge or process defense ministry. Would that increase cross as the control of the box . So to sort of manager, industrial companies, we serve gay, shy girl, was our mode. So were looking at the cold war. So financial means being transferred there because actually drug each other there in the soviet union to military industrial, compet scouts being the driver and not only oversight of military development, but the civilian do. I know my father was in the military Industrial Complex and he had to deal with the show the consumer needs, apart from what didnt with the issue for providing the roster and saw your maybe with a required sprigs. So this is what we have. And now obviously bill also is a reliable maam, which in the draft team and she is their grades supervisor over those come also of financial means which are being distributed today with all of their formats remodeled. If you do, armies has been arrest that you know, they are leaving the office. You have really good, you know, all kinds of there are the, uh you know, and thats j r often. Its really interesting on the way that you mentioned that because when i heard of the shuffle and what was going on in the ministry of defense, i was thinking the same thing. I, my sense was moving, shy, grew out because theres going to be a major shakeup of whats going on there because of what the scott is said when what youve said here is that theyre looking long term. Not looking to the next political cycle. Theyre looking at a long term u. K. K j is going to be last 40 seconds. Go ahead. Yes, absolutely. I think what we can see is the us is a capture by dunning, kroger, leads for not only musically tone, death, but the tone desk. And they are not capable of seeing beyond, you know, the noses at the same time that the global south is moving in tectonic long term, strategic ways. And this is the final thing that will, were in the end game. We can see the moves ahead and we can see what the outcomes going time. So glad you said that because im sick and tired of talking about how the world has to revolve around the us president ial election cycle. And this move beyond it, and we are, i want it, thats all the time we have gentlemen, i want to thank my guess and del mar, in San Francisco and in washington state. And of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our key. See you next time. Remember prospect the the, [000 00 00;00] the, [000 00 00;00] the, by the early 1950. Can you became one of the centers of resistance to colonialism in half or to the british invaders infringed on the most basic rights of the local population. Great britain to pursue the policy of squeezing out the local population from their indigenous lands. The best airable areas were given to white farmers, dooming canyon stepfather, d, and hunger. This caused a sharp protest of the peasants and led to the emerging of the mile mile movement, which started to play against the invaders. 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