Arresting performance. Protesters are dragged away from outside the Eurovision Song Contest as they make their voices heard about israels participation. The just after 9 p. M. Here in moscow, russia, youre watching r t international. Im your host donald quarter. Welcome to the program. Our top story today at least 8 people have been killed and 20 wounded after Ukrainian Missile strike partially destroyed. And Apartment Building in the russian city of belgrade surveillance camera footage captured the moment of the strike of this 10 Story Building rescue teams are now racing against time and a bid to reach those still trapped under the buildings. Russell of what you just witness. There was a critical phase known as a quiet period where teams pause to listen for any signs of life. From within the rubble rescue efforts were hampered earlier when another part of the building came crashing down. The 3 emergency workers were injured and the incidents while search efforts were also interrupted amid the threats of another ukrainian attack. Russian authorities have slammed this as an act of terrorism, and the video has been posted online of a witness at the scene. Just moments after the attack took place on the verge of the services are trying to put out fire still burning in the rubble. So that those who are still trapped are not overcome by the smoke. However, there is some good news. At least one man has been successfully rescued and emergency services. Had managed to keep them awake and talking for several hours while efforts to free him more underway. Special equipment was needed to break through the concrete wall of an adjacent apartment to reach him and hes not receiving medical treatment. Another man was also pulled out his condition, as of now was on. Those rescued from the scene of devastation had been taken to a nearby school and are being given help by the local authorities. There. Well mosque out says the nato supplied weapons, including vampire missiles were used in the latest strikes on belgrade, the russian ford ministry condemns the attack. Instead of added to the list of crimes by the key of regime and its western back to deter attack in belgrade is another bloody link in a chain of crimes of the key for using the targeted showing of innocent civilians, public infrastructure, residential buildings, hospitals, schools, and social facilitators has become a signature of zalinski, is criminal organization, which is backed by western sponsors. Earlier my colleagues more on how mommy has discussed the tactics with our t shaped bows and the tally and war correspondent, andrea lucida. Its another terrible day for belgrade. I mean, ive spent a lot of time in the town. I have an affection for, they know a lot of people there. Ive met with the doctors who treated the victims of this uh, you know, essentially just a terrorism. But given the destruction the collapse of an entire apartment lock, it looks like theres a lot of people trapped on the robot i might expect. Sadly, a jeff told to us several types of weapons use at punch to you, which are known. So you type of add me so i already which was use previously in chronic poor skin and attack against a billions again, which also killed in numerous amount of civilians. Again, as you mentioned at the check vampire m l or s, which is a multi launch rockets system at low risk, which is a very inaccurate and a dangerous weapon, which indiscriminately far as these high explosive warheads into a rather niguel. Ive seen those. Ive got to remember on new years eve last year at belgrade was attacked also with the same weapon. And i was on the ground and saw the damage that these things do. Its so indiscriminate. Children were killed. 25 people died. And that attack alone, a 100 a very by the injured as the psychological impact of this, which is essentially terrorism. Theres absolutely no military infrastructure anywhere near the building destroyed today or at, in the previous attacks. Wow. Yeah. So he is quite devastating. Kindly brings me to my next little bit. We thing, andre, a lot of these weapons being supplied by the western countries. A clear phase to save everyone on the so if it is all being a tax, all being targeted, even hundreds of deaths. Why are they not condemning this even . This is a good question. I think today in this up eckowitz. So thats a heal canyon forces. Are had some civilians for a lot of time like like the tri state in both world. This weapons states on fire supplied by a chest of public was use it against civilian so against civil buildings and this Weapon System its, its certainly not create. So i think in this moment the west needs to think if they want to continue to putting this weapon to pain after a little while, you can use these weapons against civilians and why the west, the states been single to the west a web on. So can not to use it against some type, right . So this is important because maybe now there was need to think about which for all of want to play in this conflict, right . Right, well they get to the 2nd on the, its the show, you know we, we need to hear a lot about how russians been involved saying to the 5 he read in many towns of intakes. And of course, all done in a controlled way with the minute most civilians. Is there some sort of retaliation do that because russia is doing so well, you know, bring peace and stability to those regions. Yeah, well its hard to see that its not some sort of reaction. Obviously, youre right its, its not on usual to see that these attacks against civilians are pretty and done. Best on that switch under a would be very familiar with on the ground and our colleagues, the sweeney, and many of our corresponds, have seen the 1st time affects of these would tell if he still likes it seems into civilian areas with no real, a russian out on a military, the scale, and its just the in belgrade, and the support for the government has actually increased since these attacks began. And we heard about this when i was there, people absolutely support the must go governments. And theyve also suggested that theyve suggested to me themselves that these attacks were, in essence revenge attacks. Now, whats actually happening on the ground of course, is also interesting. In the last 2 days, weve had 9 villages now settlements some large, some small, you know, liberated by Russian Forces as a push across the border to create this before zone. Really. And you can see now the ration now if, if anything needed to demonstrate why the Russian Military de monday, from the people of belgrade and these regions being attacked, much like the people of dumbass who are shield for 10 years. If anything demonstrates the need to push a, you know, this artillery, east, west and support systems a way out of range of disability incentives. If anything demonstrates of what this does, it show you know, and actually basically not so my next know we told or previously. So it was about a buffer zone or now its been told to by the should be like maybe us controlled or a multi minute feed controlled buffers. A, where theres no, weve, weve seen it was north in the south of cyprus. Is this a possibility . Is this realistically something that could happen a and b with a long range, missiles that are already also being supplied now, so you claim how, how deep this book does this buffers that have to be. This is the question because the us are sending this new weapon, this new me size with a like a 3 on the to them at this range. So its of this size are able to heat the old crimea, and also all the are from 33. 00 out of the new range on for us. And the, if the idea uh for a b solution is a buffer zone. How and how many kilometers we need to create this by 1st of all, because at this is the us is the west to continue to supply this weapon with maureens every time maureens morning mornings. So or i need to secure the need safety for their 3030 and of course a longer age limit size are like a weapon for its good for us to leave the conflict. No for, for going to the things in the region. And of course now also in the better of the region, its needed like an wasnt, then you have the same, the same situation, like with the, of the, of, of disco was of like a 4th us for the opinion. I mean, where they deploy a lot of artillery and we, these are still are they show finance. And now there is the same situation in both or so there is this of, on fire, god the thought go. And maybe that from force need to pull back this Weapon System for stuff makes a lot of are following the attack on the apartment complex. 3 more ukrainian attacks took aim at belgrade on sunday. So really, an infrastructure was hit, including a parking area bus stop and more local homes. But for more on this now were going across live to investigative journalist christopher holly. Thanks, chris. Always a pleasure having you on the program. Russia calls the latest. Yeah, no problem. Russia says that this latest bell grid attack adds to the list of the crimes of the key. Every dream and its western backers. What would you say the strike is . Would you agree with that assessment to this site . Because of course, is a terrorist attack good. Thats what it is from a 3rd state, a state that has opened me being a hostile to its own citizens, its own population. I to the russian speaker is that since 2014 and of course now is using uh, western uh, the western back. Uh, supplier routes and this applied arms uh to inflict domestic casualties and civilians to continue supporting various terrace groups and terrorist attacks within russian territory. And they continued to advocate and to ask for western governments to supply them with even longer range missiles. And as the commentator just before i came, i knew it, right . So the said this is not to de escalate and to move towards the ceasefire and a solution to the ongoing crisis, but it actually is to escalate and to increase the worst. And thats what attacks like today, and again, by condolences to that, to the families and friends of the victims. But thats what these kinds of attacks do. They, they, they help the, the, the key every seem to further its goals of instability, the stabilization, and hopefully bringing the west full fledged into the conflict. Thats what they want. They want american troops on the ground. They one french troops on the ground. They want to see a massive nato response, and so far we havent seen that, but thats where this is headed. If this doesnt stop. Well united nation, so said several times, it condemns all attacks on civilian infrastructure. But do you think its possible for them to take any meaningful action at this point . Know, a given a given United States and the other powerful allies that it has, especially United Kingdom as well. And the security council, theres no way that theres going to be any meaningful action from the united nations. Theres been a tuck, ive heard in some quarters about the possibility of a Un Peacekeeping force or something akin to that. Like we see in the other areas in other conflicts, but i dont foresee that happening in this situation. First and foremost, the west is so committed to trying to destroy your i should to trying to bulk and nice restaurants designed to bring down the russian government that they would, that theyre not yet ready for a peaceful solution. Though they see that writing on the walls and they know which is why today everybody is running around like crazy, im sure in washington and brussels to ensure arguments supplies because the russian adventure is moving very swiftly. Were seeing the 10s, if not hundreds, of kilometers taken within the past week. So theyre very worried. Theyre very concerned that theyre prepped up a ally and receiving get will eventually crumbled. And thats what its looking like is going to happen eventually. Well, most go says that uh, western supplied weapons were actually used again in todays attack. Why do you think we never hear any sort of words of condemnation from these powers . Is the western powers that their equipment is being used against civilians . Of course uh for them just like uh in guys. Uh and in other places uh these uh, civilians are not, um are not totally civilians. Theyre not equal to in terms of their humanity. And there were other peoples, especially uh, western europeans. So when they looked at uh the civilians dying, they said, oh, well, theyve vote for the government, they have to pay the penalty. Theyre also responsible. Theyre also combatants. Even some of them will say there, there is no, theres no victims. There is no, it is in, in, in russia, of course, this is uh, the brutality and the barbarism of these western countries, the racism that exist there, there is a phobia that has existed for many decades going back to the cold war. And so of course the supplied weapons. A lot of them like the, uh, the vampire system that we saw from tickets the back. Yeah. Right. This system has been supplied. Theres, theres a blinding, you clean, not only with western weaponry, but with former soviet weaponry taken from former soviet states, taken from former allies, the soviet union and whatever has been instruct files. So absolutely they are, they are arming their argument to the teeth. We saw with the congressional bill for 95. 00 plus 1000000000. 60 of that or so is going to the give regime for more arguments for more supplies. And of course as a clearinghouse for all the corruption that exist there. But that that would standing. You have to recognize that civilians in russia are not seen as fully human by the west. And thats really at the core of some of the issues that we continue to see. Theyre not, theyre not seen as victims, theyre seen as aggressors. All the russians are seen as aggressive, and thats a, thats a, thats something that shows what the, what the ethics and morals of the west really are. Besides the human rights language, they always force on other people. Or one more question for you here, chris, moscow has already said its trying to create a buffer zone to protect the russian civilian population. And at the same time, the west is supplying the Ukrainian Military with a longer range missiles. Ive how large do you think that this buffer zone would have to be to effectively protect russian civilians . It depends on the Weapon Systems that are going to be supplied. I mean, some of what ukraine is asking for is uh, is Weapon Systems that can go. Busy hundreds, if not thousands of kilometers that mean that theyve asked for, basically the equivalent of, of, you know, sort of a scud missiles the equivalent that in the us being the longer range of grounds, the ground, the ground, the missile was that can go in effect, hundreds of kilometers. So the buffer zone will have to be quite big to protect the uh, to do the, and population. Of course, the main thing now for the russian government to do and to think about these, how to further use air superior and see if they can gain the upper hand to the advantage to take out a lot of the systems before theyre operational. Weve known that over the past months, the Russian Armed forces have been a tremendous job in trying to destroy the bose and the sites where these Missile Systems i believe. But if you create is able to access these Weapon System built, continue to target civilian infrastructure even further than belgrade. So continue to go deep within russian territory, and thats the fear of the escalation here. So rest of it has a big job, but i believe that theyre up to the challenge. All right, very insightful investigative journalist. Christopher holly, thanks a lot for coming once again out of the program. Thank you for having me. A pleasure. Meanwhile on saturday, ukrainian attack, im done yet to collect one person dead. We spoke with australian independent journalist john he a to visited the scene. I dont think a buffer zone is going to work. Only demilitarize in ukraine is going to work because like some of the Weapon System, a 300 over 300 kilometers. I mean the, i mean, did you ask now eh, yeah, of d f guys been there, liberated but still of them. Yes. Good show. And the suburbs of them. Yes. Good. Show a good show everyday. Yes. The center doesnt get shared as much anymore. But still the yeah its, its happening. And yesterday i was in a really sad, seen a restaurant in the, in the yes, but i wasnt there when the strike happened to like youre physically because i was somewhere else in the, the document to, you know, and may live in to say then yes, it freedom day basically. So i was actually in the sent over give us getting the center boulevard to sort of talking to people interviewing people. And then the strike happened. And the icons even the, i dont know how to explain that. I made the video about it. The place, i mean i must fly in a way that they just fly and then they drove from the sky like 90 degrees and it just fell. It was just size. There was no accident in this. I tell you ive been into useful for quite a while. What i saw yesterday, i sometimes wish i didnt see you know, some of these images say they take a long time to get out of your head. And i mean, yeah, its part of part and parcel of the reporting from a place like this, but yeah, it was a difficult see united by music. That was the slogan for last nights euro vision song contest. But judging by the scenes outside the venue in sweden, unity wasnt short supply as anger boiled over. Israels participation the to the ground, finding their hands and dragging them away. While pepper spray was used on other protesters claimed the police were heavy hand. Despite the demonstration, beginning peacefully, our separate the call me off the resolved they just use so much bye for nothing and i, and even want to ask why it was being detained or squared away, they were like, you dont have to answer that, but its i was giving away a danish felice like i was not taking part of the mistake here. My husband saying anything were just silently demonstrating cayman islands. They took us away and the motion that i was feeling is just a fraction and people arent, arent experiencing this years contest was plagued by scandal. Israel came 5th and at one point was even leading the race, despite many calling for the country to be banned from the events altogether. With her take years, archie contributor rachel marston. This is your vision san contest is being held in suite in the country. Thats become austin on this with muslim immigration. So when israel is included in the annual competition organized by the European Alliance of public service, Media Outlets at a time when there is a major humanitarian crisis and gas as a result of israel trying to liquidate him us and heating over 30001000 in civilian so far in the process, is that a wonder that euro vision a talent show has now become the latest runs in the stand off between pro palestinian and pro is really virtue signaling battalions. Its horrible whats happening in ga. So right now, and i think a lot of people should be demonstrating purchasing, especially now when the u. S. Low, but this ramped participates in your mission button, but not the russia. And i think thats just the, its wrong. Its ready to embrace this eminence. Lemme pull the double standard when it comes to the treatment of russia. For that reason, i think the people are here for your revision bank to sort of celebrate theres nothing to celebrate. Its an ongoing war. People are killing each other children or die in there because since, as early as january to ban is rio from your vision, but organizers of just shrugged de la, arguing that the context is a political. Yeah. Right. And your vision is totally not slim point or kid. She either. Tomorrow were talking about an event where participants are better know by their National Flag than by their actual needs, making it inherently nationalist and political. Which is why the geneva based European Broadcasting Union organizers slapped in egypt down on russia. When do you create conflict popped off . They even said and done the ukranian president by mirrors wednesday from addressing the event last year. I guess that was a bridge to bar is taking place and never for the time they said that it was quote regrettable that they could not grant his request to speak despite his quote laudable intentions. Because the quote possibility of making political statements as part of the contest is prohibited. Sure, because political statements can only ever be done with words and not by actions like they did when they down russia. Sounds like maybe they were just worried that zalinski would kind of kill the vibe with his usual speech. Nationalistic rivalries are exactly what your vision is about actually too bad. Nowhere from gaza was by just saying in europe. Contests like israel was because jazz is banned. Sure. And ive been out in full force, including in the mountains hearing a shift that dropped into port and creed about 400 profile cities of porters on route to gas up. This visit was apparently motivated by israels presence in the contest. Even going and her ballad ended up qualifying for the top 10 in the saturdays big televised finale. Im so overwhelmed with emotions. Its truly such an honor to be here on stage performing and showing our voice and representing us with pride and making it to the finals is its, its something crazy. So shes obviously trying to keep it all about the music. The fact that the crowd chanted free palestine during her semi final dress rehearsal and she was dude, would probably give a bit of a clue as to why that might be the case. But hey, heres is really Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu taking a break between bombing campaigns to hijack this is rarely performers efforts to make it all about him. So thats more buffy. Youve already worn, not telling me all youve called them impressively participating in your vision. But your successfully consultants and a horrible wave of anti semitism as your standing up to date and representing the stage of his royal with great on. So be blessed and know that when they for you, we show that you how rock, doug. I believe the technical term for b. B statement is friendly. Fire, you know, bombing your own assets is, remark certainly wont do anything to help the politicize 0 vision or the as rarely contest its participation, basically, be just rhetorically bomb bureau vision like it was some us by totally missing the target and virtually guaranteed, even more blow back the, the west african nation of sierra leone has been boosting its ties with russia. Its top diplomat was just in moscow where everything from Nuclear Energy cooperation to the security situation in his home region was discussed. Get ready to push it to us. So we discussed the situation in this a harvest region. Molly, looking at fossil chair, chad were interested in west african countries. The remaining focused on safeguarding their sovereignty. An interest in dealing with international partners. So elimination of the colonial and neil colonial messages, which are still visible due to the presence of some former settlers on the african continents, is also in our interest. Today we conducted talks on this matter. And of course, we are interested in seeing the principle of separate and solutions to african problem supported into practice. There are many conflicts in crisis in africa. Sometimes foreign players while trying to offer assistance, primarily pursue their own interests. But were drawing consistent with the interests of africans themselves on skin problem. We also spoke about the need for the Russian Federation to support see every unit to aspiration for 4th security update. My colleague and i spoke about the need for prussian investment and sort of young at the moment invest investment is almost minimal. We want to use all political cooperation, all by luxury relation to heighten our economic possibilities. Today im here, we also spoke about almost a Natural Corporation earlier, sarah leons, information minister spoke with my colleague, nikki aaron, about his countrys growing ties with russia. And this was a very productive needed team. And its based on a very long relationship between sir and you on and russia stared, you had some benefit and said from a mutual diplomatic relationship thats been very beneficial over the years since 9 some to 63. And this was an opportunity to, or between you and friends in those by less for relations. And thats the foreign minister said they really focus on aspects that are beneficial for both countries. So can i feel of a piece security issues, but also affecting investments . Im saying youre and youre going to send you the partnership on areas of education, which has been areas of collaboration in the past, but also back to the investments in energy. And i have found the area of interest to speaking of moving forward is that information technology. How would you assess the cooperation between the 2 countries in this particular field and i want new agreements that could we expect to be signed in this area. But as president b is big, 5 developments agenda is uh, around really transforming a digital footprints. I information from technology, a system in our country. And we know that russia has put the expertise by the technology and information will be useful for our country. It is one of these areas of our conversation is what were expecting and hoping for not just senior investments, but also exchanges. People to people, exchanges extend just in technology exchanges, you know, group plans and things like that. So where, you know, everything is on the table, this was a, this was a, a grid composition. And, and, and, and as you know, the minutes about far enough, as i said earlier, and himself benefits that from about 5 to shoot from you as a go, he studied in russian. I mean, just of mind. So this is not news. You have a whole set of the does not country who can speak the language, who can continue those exchanges. And were hoping to read multiple benefits included in india or else information and technology. What do you think so many african crises do not receive enough attention in the International Media . Im thinking about just one particular example of a d. C, which is where safely under reported in us is one of many across the continents. Why do you think they does gain the attention they deserve . Nothing is necessarily neutral, right . People have about specs even sometimes. Uh, stories are not staying. Thats what he of being reported or making the front pages. But i think at the end of the day, we want to focus on it and what i think our focus should be fees. We need to set out and started. I need to create the right kinds of processing. And im for file and starters the west or different parts of the world and different media. Theyre going to have their own preferences based on offerings. Sometimes its like what the audience is going to hear or what fits into a very specific narrative. As ive said, this is all its, its, its not neutral. Theres a whole history. And we, we dont have all the time to get into all the history and a politics thats into why, uh, thats the representation that we have. But its true that our stories are not told, but i also dont want to spend so much time leaving other people from attending aust service. I think we need to continue to invest in opportunities to amplify and tell our own stories as well. Youre watching our tea international stick around for more news and just about half an hour the