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And he has that you can join this by the the, the joining me is pneumonia soto, which minister of labor, employment veteran and social affairs, mister minutes to thank you for taking the time to speak to us. Lets speaking with the person that shes visits. China is among the serbias Foreign Direct Investment partners. The number suggest Chinese Investment opportunities are currently providing 20000 jobs. What are the opportunities . Does china have to offer . Well 1st and foremost the say that the was it the, the chinese president , shes in think represents both great on a and quite jolly for the people of soviet because it is the 2nd time that the chinese lita is visiting oliver. Not so big country. And because during the his 1st day you were pen to or officer full 5 years, he decided to visit the only parents bellwood and both of us. And we believe that this was, it actually serves as yet another proof of iron clad to friendship. Thats beyond china. Managed to, to, to, to, to construct or establish in the previous decade, you mention some of the numbers and if you allow me, i will add to it on the 12 years ago, all our overall exports to china. Were in a range of 6789000000. 00 us dollars. So very many scale. And coming to the previous year, 10 to 23. 00. The increase to that to 1200000000. So the multiplied our exports to china in previous 10 or so years by a factor of 450, for example. So we can over the issue of the lot during the course of all the Strategic Partnership and as we like to call them both sides a island floods of friendship. But this particular visit to which i can see the very important is also kind of a spring board for even further enhancement. The father relations various fields that just to mention 29 different agreements that have been inc or assigned during the course of this of this visit. So of course, the most important thing that we are working on right now is the Free Trade Agreement between serbia and china that has been signed last year. And that will come into effect on july the 1st. So in less then in less than 2 months, our overall trade exchange with china is around 6000000000. 00 us dollars. And we really believe that off to this f t a comes into effect in 2 months. We will be able to increase its to more than 10000000000. 00 us dollars in a very short period of time for a country. The size of the via this is you can understand extremely significant. I think. And you mentioned, of course, the, the many Chinese Investments humorous go president , she mentioned use the very strong and the size it words inside that for the peoples republic of china, the republic of serbia is the most important part, the country in the whole region of central and eastern europe, and thats, you know, a, something that the mattress much when expressed by such and rates, world leader you know, and those words serve also as a kind of obligation for future endeavors. But let me give some couple of examples. You know, 3 of the Chinese Companies are now pop 3 exporters from so the, im just speaking about Chinese Investments that came to set being last 5 for 6 years. One, the most vivid examples concerning solving largest steel mills, steel, mill dicks that existed for decades. This is a socialist times and all a big company with more than 5010 please. Bucks, stopping me. The night 9th is the company was struggling. And off the year, 2000. We had to to, to, to subsidize heavily on that company. Yet we tried to do the prioritization in the early 2, thousands us steel and Major American Company came in box. Thats the largest steel bill. It sort of, yep. Bought today, were producing only losses, and thats a couple of years they gave us the company back for 1. 00, you know, and we still, again, had to bleed hundreds of millions of euros each year to a subs those subsidies just to keep it the operational, just to keep more than 5000 people on the paycheck and the whole city that depends. So thats the only one we were trying to find Strategic Partner who could be able to invest in new technologies to preserve the jobs, to preserve the operations. So thats very, very important the company, and its also the chinese who decided to jump in to come to serve you to buy the company, to place preserved full employment, to invest hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars into new technologies. And now the 1st bill meal is again, one of the top 3 exporters from sub you. How are these opportunities different from the opportunities presented by say that your opinion . Well 1st and foremost, the speak about the cooperation with the peoples republic of china. They can see the official begging to be of some kind of a benevolent part because of inevitably speak about the economy and it make some arrangements seem to feel that the economy there is, there are no political things attached at all. There is no political conditionality whatsoever imposed by the aging and that is a positive experience for us. I mentioned some of the examples you know when theyre needed to the sometimes of a Strong Political decision from the top political level of the full. So can companies to come to sub be a to invest and that has proven to be very successful because those very chinese on companies are public supports us from serbia. So all their experiences are very good yet. When we try to quantify that chinese direct investments is via now exceeds 5500000000 euros, a significant amount for serbia. But if we count in all the Infrastructure Projects that have a they come together with the chinese partners so to speak, about highways about and fos, real, amazing. So on that overall amount bills double. So it is more than 10000000000 then dealing ears. And we told us in mind v o is, are very cautious and not to fall into any kinds of for that truck. Unlike some of the world by countries which may look the dimension at this moment, but the republicans suddenly offer a level of fiber public depths to g. D. P ratio is of a below 50 percent. So they are very cautious severe. They below the most retry tyria of the European Union, the owners, they think 60 percent, you know, talk to a public. Thats what you to pay, ratio and reveal never fall into any kind of a depth truck bots. Veal of pools, use the preferential loans and credit arrangements to further develop all our infrastructure and our economy. What is serbias role in the belts and Road Initiative and how does this benefit serbia and china . Well, you know about the, the right and the overall idea how to increase connectivity between east asia, central asia, and then of course, the european a continent, africa as well. And you can certainly go a geographical location, the depth of the parts of that geographical area. Yeah. I mean, it says the dawn of time the, the, the, the, the central parts of the bulk and spinning show of its very, are situated was, you know, kind of a historical highway doing the roman empire. Its whats called the, im really thought is that during the ottoman empire, its 1st cold, the assembled road, you know, and it is a geographical area. The beach best connects to the asia minor with the Central Europe. So really fast forward to the present time. Of course, you know, it is the best way to connect the ports on the a g n with the Central Europe is actually to the territory of the republic of serbia. So when we look at the white feature that we can recognize the interest for the increased connectivity and being able to distribute to more easily, more hastily and more efficiently. Older goods from example from china to central and western europe or vice versa. 40 republic of serbia, it bears with significance because to the in for us to develop into fiber infrastructure, which is part of either picture of the belt through the initiative of course you to manage to, to, to, to, to increase over internal connectivity. And that will give you the best example which is very well known to our citizens. And, and that is the fact that these have constructed together with all the chinese friends and both those. The foster relate between all the 2 largest cities, capital best rate, and the suggest all these sites there i happen to live still and commute each day. So we connected the 2 largest cities with the thoughts right away and it now makes the 35 minutes commute. So this is something that is a great risk significance for all the country. And we are continuing with the construction of that fast right away. And hopefully, by the end of the 2026, the dates will be finished and the fonts for the connect, we will connect the survey and capital build weight and to help him get around a capital loss with a survey, a Strategic Partnership with china seems crucial and beneficial for the country, but it is highly criticized by european politicians. Why do you think that is . Many of the what many of us some countries, including the leading, the leading countries of the European Union, United States of america and so on. I would definitely like to not heavy because the republic of serbia a is not feeling to recognize intellectual, declared independence of causal and b is not feelings to join the sanction or machine against the Russian Federation. So they are little theyre using or x or think a lot of pressure on serbia in order to change those 2 very important political decisions regarding our price. So cost to ship and regarding our not willingness to join sanctions against russia. And they were using any pressure following to that they can find one of the Pressure Point is their dissatisfaction. That which they do express with the upper cooperation with peoples republic of china. But there is also a lot of people per se, in that venue just the you know, they can alter the fact that only 2 weeks ago, console schultz. So germany was always the thing to be g officially meeting with the president sheet that just prior to the belt way to visit president , she visited paris method president on the france and, and had the fuel commission that was the lo phone deadlines. Then you just compared to did the trade or tour and that one gemini, or one fonts has the peoples republic of china and compare it with the service. So no trade warranty on. It is even beyond the comparison. So sometimes, and they do criticize us for all cooperation with china. The and dates push that particular pressure Pressure Point. You know, the feel like could never douglas standards at the place. And as an old latin proverb says, quarterly to 2 of you normally said bully, what is suitable for a gold is not suitable for an ox. They are too proud to be except to be treated like an ox, and they never will be hungry. And leader says, the e u is abusing its power by meddling with the Domestic Affairs of Member States and canada states. I understand that you has some conditions for serbia if it is to be accepted into the european blog such as the decision to implement chapter 35 of the board agreement. Do you share similar sentiments with the hon gearing leader . Well, is it still a mention, serbia . Is on its your piano path to pass over the membership for more than 2 decades. Of each have started all the negotiations on negotiating chapters more than 10 years ago now. And the know what are the rules of that process. But the problem is that what youre facing right now that the rules of are changing in the middle of the competition. So the rules that has been set and that for valid for all the accession countries, since the ninetys and early 2 thousands actually does not apply any more to serbia or some new additional rules are being trone in the game or impose over us. Why is why that to mentor . So why is that important to us . For example, when we speak about the, the so called alignment of the for and Security Policy, there was the cri, clear rule that existed when the process started. And normally, normally speaking, get this bill in place and that, that says thats each, see that the country needs to gradually align. Its for and secure the policy all the way through the process. And then to fully 100 percent align with the date of the full membership. But once youre facing right now, thats the major you member countries are saying, no, it doesnt, it doesnt all go that way anymore. They need all the candidate countries to for the online right now. Although we are not able to give them the accession date, youre not able to tell them if theyre going to become members in 5 years or 10 years, or 15 years. If its still a moving target, you know, for us, and this is something that we cannot accept for the, from the common sense point to few. On top of the fact that the seat, some of our neighborhood countries by the name of the minister dont hear republic a whole then yeah, that agree to be that the approach that have fully aligned, that for and Security Policy, including the oldest sanctions against the Russian Federation, but to did that to move them closer to the membership into you. Unfortunately, not so that theres also the messages that we the 3 understand would thats in mind. You mentioned that fame was chapter 35. That that exist only for serbia. All the other countries have just the for jeff, there was no way only the traditional chapter is, is imposed over us. And there vish for us to somehow with police the fuck to recognize intellectual success sorts of succession or fall. The southern problem is, and i must be clear about that. Theres something that nobody asked us about that was a kind of unilateral imposed decision by the European Union and their institutions. So of course, i can only agree with this definition provided by the hon. Give them Prime Minister the, the old one thats, you know, there is a, thats desire, need wish, whatever the, to impose things, either on the u. Member states like hungry or impose over the candidate countries. But still, you know, we base our fire and Security Policy on 2 pillars. One is full political independence and the 2nd these military neutrality it and we are not going to abandon either of these 2 pillars. Speaking of western alliances, president arctic sound that will just set time and time again. His government is not interested in joining nato. Why is that . We believe it is our summer and the decision of a southern right to choose whether youre going to join any kinds of political, military alliance or not. And the overbuilding sentiment and you know, a decision or follow, or people who just by the government. A said the whole adult, of course, the government to is that the wish to remain fully sovereign and not showing on the lines in particular, not wishing to join the nato allies. You know, in the early, 2000 for the speak about this enlargement process. So the your opinion, and there was a kind of formula, nate, the 1st is 2nd, then you should have seen in the serious of cases. I mean all the central and Eastern European countries that joined you. First, prior to the calculators prior, joined the nato alliance. But you see that thats kind of formula is not working anymore because in the western boltons we see countries like montenegro like, oh baby i like thought macedonia joining in a couple of years ago. But still being kind of stuck in their pockets over the European Union. So they cannot be blind to that fact, and that is something that also needs to be counted. The account is the, the, the rules are changing. The belief that joining the European Union would be in the best interest of favicon through an abra people. And it is closely connected with the geographic culture. Reality is the position to verify the are in the very heart to do repeating confident and thoughts but to the above the soviet position. It is because the that you, you all fear, jeff politics is that the board during 8 to different countries. There is only germany with one neighbors on the european soil, then not so big country as this is so of being connected using all of the most interest, then they look at the investments, then they will cut our exports, v r into connected to the European Union very, very much. And what we have is an actual needs for our country, not people is convergence. Converge us with all the Central European surroundings convergence with the countries that like hungry check with public slovakia, romania, and saw. And when i said converges, i mean both economic convergence, political convergence and convergence security buys. That does not mean joining nato a has to be there and never do that. That is something that is rejected by the overwhelming majority of our people. But we do not wish to treat even natal is the kind of adverse survey or enemy we are part of the partnership for peace program. An awful thing more than 15 years. And we have a lot of cooperation problems because for us in a to its not just us say for example, it is a Good Neighbor of hunger already a Good Neighbor of from mania oliver. A Good Neighbor of bo gave me the negative. And so finally, i would like to address statements from the european commission. Their argument is china is flooding the market with chinese products. They restated as the eaves, interest and readiness to impose terrace on cheap chinese products. These developments have read none of the argument that even the United States are failing to compete with china is true. And how does the use position affect relations with serbia . It is a political reality that many of the people in the European Union and theyre politically leads and their institutions are not happy with that. But extra, there is nothing they can do about that because there is no formal rule that they can impose or apply on us. Because each and every Free Trade Agreements that we make unfolding the Free Trade Agreement that we have in the Russian Federation in the European Union. Including the Free Trade Agreements that youre preparing right now. And that, that will be signed very soon with the egypt to the tonight to their m rates and other countries has thats the appeal ation that they will be in effect until serv yet joins the European Union as a full member. Whether its what happened in 5 years or 15 years. Cool can say, writes not unfortunate to know, but in brussels, whose words do do matter. But it is only logical that when that time comes and so itd be a, becomes the full member of the e. U. As a part of the block because they will apply the same trade rules and regulations just by the rest of the European Union. So, you know, again become to that kinds of hypocrisy. And they criticize us for using some opportunities that are good for our country. Thats a good for our people, but the not offering the full members shift on the understand the full membership in the the European Union for us is a Free Trade Agreement is a great spring board. Quite a put unity for our economy. You know . Because right now we are facing the chinese terrace in the custom do this, that are in the range font, i believe turkey 8 to 62 percent for different categories of goods. And then all starting to july, the 1st, some of these customs you with these we will be both the polished sounds. They will be gradually appalled. Dish and all are for the produce the goods are good. So they will be much, much more competitive on this huge chinese chinese market. But it also goes to the other way around. It feel make a lot of Chinese Investments or new Chinese Investments inside the zip. But to be bill never allowed to be used. Our country as a stage for sir combat, vend things im, you know, a tre stipulation. So regulation that exists between 0 opinion in the peoples republic of china. And of course, because if we dont have a kind of free trade region, the European Union is a candidate country, which has somebodys ation in association agreement. Of course then have a Chinese Investor comes and produces stuff here is being produced goods and well have access to the European Union market. So there is Nothing Specific and that it is not a normal normal rule. 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