In the special report. I want to take a look at something that has personally or bothered me, and its this wire, russia, us relation so bad. Its like siblings and cant get along so much in common so much to share so many missed opportunities. And you had a history has simply not been kind to this relationship, believe it or not, as bad as it seems now, with the us governments ridiculously stubborn refusal to accept brush as a global partner, no matter how many times russia has asked to be a partner its been as bad or worse, at other times, forces inside the us for reasons apparently having to do with power and money. Have simply not accepted, consistently friendly or even fair relations with russia. And when did this really start . How can this could have been different . How good a bit different actually in quite a bit. It couldve been very different. You say towards the end of world war 2. There was a deep appreciation in the United States among almost all americans for what joseph stalin. Yeah, joseph stalin, for all his issues had done, had mustered after all, it was clearly his russian army that a truly defeated or put the finishing blow in the adolf hitlers nazi regime. Thats a fact that over time was whittled away by british power brokers. Us industrialists, and of course, how could we forget hollywood the sooner on earth you went to the most extraordinary days of world war 2 and of the biggest battle of them might be used for man, have ever for battle. Exciting to watch. A battle of the bulge. Thats what we all grew up with, right . Its pretty good stuff. We were told all the time still told to this day that we won world war 2, but of course a little help from the british. And of course, it was a french resistance. Right . Well, wow. Oh, yeah. So russian, spain were somehow also involved. What really happened was very different and you know, who understood that the president of the United States at the time before his death president Franklin Delano roosevelt enjoyed a respectful, would appreciate a relationship with the soviet union and its leadership as well. Of adults, interestingly enough, dad, his Vice President , his Vice President , was a lot like here. Lets talk. The guys name was Henry Wallace. As was big here. Right. Wallace was the 2nd most popular man in america after after he was o. It was the people guy, you know, not, not a typical politician, not a guy who came from money like so many around him. I mean, im gonna share with you something. Now heres a speech. This is wallaces famous speech on social reform and the common man. The speech came to be known as the revolution of the peoples speech. Some have spoken of the american century. I say that the century on which we are entering the century, which will come out of this war, can be it must be the century of the coming, but there must be neither military nor you cannot make imperialist march of freedom. 150 years. There were the american revolution, the french revolution, the american revolution, the russian revolution. Somewhat good common man, how good stops. Now, most people like the sky a lot. However, and heres the problem, the british and the other a global industrialist. They did not like wallace, Winston Churchill in particular, hated this guy, and a part of lisa agents into the United States to monitor him. Churchill seemed to hate russians and also seem to resent the credit that the soviets had gotten for marching into berlin and taking up the nazis. Because wallace didnt agree with churchill regarding the soviets. He kind of like them, or least respected of churchill dislike malice. By the way, wallace was no fan of church either. Ill show you a clip now is interesting where wallace all but calls churchill publicly a drunk. I said, remember the notion of on the sections appearing or did it in church of approach will be offensive to many federal. I had quite a bit of whisky said why be apologetic about under sex on superiority, that we were superior . Thats right. As i drink by whiskey, i will tell you we are superior to everyone else. So was the crazy about church, you didnt like imperialism. He also believes that can work with associates. That sounds troubling. So that makes them popular with people all throughout the americas. For example, live america, where i come from in latin america, this guy visits almost every single country any celebrate the locate the name or not when the upper part uses. Yes, it says i have the good fortune of visiting other pieces other countries, pardon me . I have a good fortune of doing so i made sure a wallace at this point is a sure to follow roosevelt. But 1st he had to continue to be a Vice President. And if the people had been allowed to choose, he would have been the obvious winner as Vice President money was enough to the people, much like the way the Democratic Party, upper adjective, done today with president biden. They wanted somebody else. Someone they couldnt maybe manipulate wallace was cheated. The party knowing that f d r probably didnt have much longer to live, shows another guy, a guy named harry truman instead. This guy was a salesman, areas older, but as a young man thats all he did. He sold suits, he was once used as an example by Party Leaders who said he was approved so they could just about get any part of your left to truman actually admitted. He had no idea what he was doing when he became president. He wasnt kidding well, wallace and roosevelt had been very close. Um and wallace had met with the president and roosevelt the ad for leaders. When he was the vp. Truman had actually met with the roosevelt to types. Thats it. To meetings with roosevelt before he died. He knew nothing about delta, nothing about stolid yet because of what the projects kind of did. When roosevelt dies, this guys in charge a great human. I did. I called upon all americans to help me change our nation united in defense of those ideal which i have been so eloquently proclaimed by franklin roosevelt. Actually, truman turns out to be nothing like Roosevelt Roosevelt wanted to work with the soviets. Truman was mediately talked into hating them. That was easy, because he knew nothing about them, or even what they had actually done. Truman became the victim of what was like a wish for campaign within the u. S. Government convincing him that the soviets were gonna try to take over your sound familiar. It wasnt true, but it didnt matter. What was true was the people advising truman the pro big business class. They wanted him to believe it most with the heirs of the rich. You know, the Railroad Class, the banking class, the big time industrial as they disliked the soviets because they hated their social reforms. And in fact, they hated any government that wasnt for big business interest because thats what their interest was, right . Make sense . Well, Something Like wallace tried to tell truman that he should engage with the russians. The president didnt listen. Instead, he tried to bully them. And so, no matter how much soviet leaders tried to negotiate with him, what they got were conversations where a truman would later be quoted as saying, i see, i put them in their place. I showed them those guys i really did, right. And in many ways, some historians would argue that those beginnings, those post world war 2 moments set the course for what is taking place today. Or joining me now is peter gooseneck, he is, if theres ever been a perfect guest, hes the perfect guest. This is the professor and the director of the Nuclear Studies institute at american university, and oliver stone co authored the 10 part documentary film series and but both titled on top story of the United States. This is a piece of work that i have seen and read again and again. And if you do nothing before you leave this or before you have your next conversation about politics with whoever, please do yourself a favor. Reading this book, watch this documentary. It is that good and can actually change it. Again. Heres the manual road. Peter kostnik, Professor American University professor, thank you so much for being with us. After the, with your rec, that was quite an introduction. Write a little history less and you gave it your less than a professor and why we should start so few americans now this my classes are big enough that i take my classes i. They know it. But you know, we dont get access. People who got a contrary view that doesnt fit into the narrow framework of american exceptionalism. To get access to mass media in the United States. I do, im amazed stream. Mat television, major television, all over the world. Except to my own country. It is tighter control over the media in the United States than any place else in the world. And so we cant, if you do get a question, the narrative about american goodness, american benevolence, america wanting to spread freedom and democracy, you simply get frozen out. And thats been my experience largely except for a few blips here and there and oliver and i 1st came out with that and told history, we certainly did get on all the mainstream media. But since then we have not been getting on it have. Heres something ive always wanted to know is the us had, lets say Henry Wallace and not harry truman, and they would have engaged the soviets. Do you think that a new escrowsll relations would have been different and even more importantly, do you think russia, as we know it today, would have been different, would have changed from style in this let and as to something else, had we just given them room debris to 12 that showed that russia itself would have been different right. Ready way but Eastern Europe could have been different. What the soviets understood what their concern was. Theyve been invaded twice through Eastern Europe. Mm hm. Live germany. What they want that after world war 2 was a buffer zone, a base they saw their security in terms of space and territory and geography. So they wanted a buffer zone and they did not impose lock step quote unquote, communist or soviet style governments. Immediately after the war. There was even a relative degree of democracy allowed ace to europe. They had elections, they had a open discussion. It wasnt really until the truly doctrine in early 47 that the soviets began to crack down and impose the kind of dic tutorial governments that we saw in, in Eastern Europe. But that was after theyve given up on the United States. And so that when somebody had thats on, so thats what i was getting at did they did, they did a crack down because we pushed them in that direction because we started seeing from what i was just telling and what i read mostly of your materials. It seemed like harry truman didnt even want to give him a break. Didnt want to have a conversation with them. Treated the russian soviet leaders at the time. Like, its like why even talking to me, you dont deserve to be in the same room with me. Right. From the very beginning, that was his attitude, unlike roosevelt that you say, unlike wallace. One point that i would add to what you were saying about wallace, and theres popularity. Caliber released the pole on july 20th 1944. The 1st day of the Democratic Party convention in chicago asking potential voters who they want that on. The ticket is Vice President. 65 percent of attends of. Busy orders, so they wanted wireless back as Vice President , 2 percent wanted truman. Yeah. Thats. It was so one sided. It was worse at the university, connecticut, purdue basketball game. So at least they were in there for a half. Do you think, do you, do you do think the same forces . Gosh, i like, it makes me angry to ask this question, but i have to ask it because its just so damn obvious. The same thing is we see today people who have power, people who have money, people who have influence people who are military contractors, the money in class, back then i called at the Railroad Class or whatever the heck they call that the gilded age. Today. Its like those same people are still doing the same thing. Am i wrong . Safley, youre right, mates. Were it in some ways the worst situation now . The only word during the 1st cold war weve got, were facing potential li, explosive situations and gaza. Me in ukraine for inside one or over tie one. Me any one of these could erupt into world war 3 because there is no diplomacy. There is no statesmanship. There is no looking at the world through the eyes of our adversaries. And thats what special wallace kept trying to impress upon, trimming because roosevelt begged wallace to stay in the cabinet after truman was chosen, his Vice President as well as bid, as secretary of commerce. And from that position for the next, almost 2 years, he weighs a campaign to try to open trumans eyes up to how, what the us was doing, look to the soviets. And it would say it is memos to it. And the meetings are truman. How would it look if we had them and if they had a monopoly on time of bombs and we didnt, if they had bases all over the world and we didnt, if they had bomb or is that could attack us . And we didnt know what john kennedy, whos the only president since Roosevelt Hall that brought home that thought i where youre going cuz where i want to go, in fact, ive got the proof of what youre about to say. Ive got it queued up. And when we come back, im going to let people hear exactly what uh, john f. Kennedy said, the 1st time a president comes out and says something that its almost a mystery why nobody had said it before. Stay right there will be right back. The look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. A robot must obey the orders given by human beings accept. Were such orders at conflict with the 1st law show alignment of the patient. We should be very careful about our personal intelligence. The point obviously, is to create a trust rather than fit the of the various jobs with Artificial Intelligence we have summoning the theme in the most protects this phone existence was alexis, the, [000 00 00;00] the, in the year of 1954, the United States of america engaged in warfare against the people of vietnam, the white house supported the corrupt above the government of southern vietnam. In 1965 americans began their invasion following the aim to defeat the forces of vietnamese patriots. The pentagon was confident that the victory would be on the american side, due to its military superiority. However, the enemies during this war into total health for the occupants. Unable to cope with the guerrillas, the American Army started blanket bombing alongside using chemical weapons and naples, which burned all alive. The village of my life. A wary 1969 american soldiers killed 504 civilians, including 210 children, became a tragic symbol of this war. All involved during the whole period of this conflict, the usa dropped on via more than 6000000. 00 tons of bonds, which is 2 and a half times as much as on germany during the 2nd world war. In 1973, the American Army under the pressure of the rebels, withdrew from vietnam, and only 2 years later did the puppet regime. And so i got involved. However, the vietnamese paid a high price for their freedom. More than 1000000 vietnamese people became the victims of america in aggressors the public, sanchez, this is direct impact and im talking to professor peter cosmic. And he was about to Say Something to you that i, i wanted to hear him say, but 1st im gonna give him some material to work with. Its funny, but heres what i think he was about to express. Long past world war 2 after roosevelt, for example. No single us president ever gave the russian people theyre due for what they did to defeat the nazis. Nobody. I mean this is crazy that we were able to essentially erase that piece of history. It wasnt until j. F, k, john f. Kennedy finally stood up and did it. He said, what should have been said earlier by truman and by others. Here it is, we got it for you. Ever suffered more than the soviet union. In the 2nd, at least 20000000 lost a large countless millions of whole families were burned or sang. A 3rd of the nations territory, including 2 thirds of its industrial face, was turned into a waste land and lost equivalent to the destruction of this country, east of chicago. And then not coincidentally, he was assassinated after saying that. Anyway, thats another show for another day. Lets stick to this professor. Is it . Can you characterize for us . What russia soviets did to, and the nazi regime where they helpers or were they the dominant force that are clearly the dominant force . Uh, the United States, roosevelt a promised style and that the us would open the 2nd front in western europe before the end of 1942 as style and to send over molotov and a trusted general to washington in may of 1942 and at the meeting, he turns to general marshal, as, as can we agreed to open up the 2nd front before the end of the. Ready year and marshall said absol. Ready late, how do we convey that to style . And that was what the russians were counting on. You have to remember, i did fill out most of the war. The United States and british were facing 10 german divisions between us, while the salvia store facing more than 200 german divisions by themselves. And but when we failed to open up the 2nd front, we lost a diplomatic initiative. We dont open it up until june for. Ready 4 year and a half later, by that point, the soviets had defeated the germans as stalingrad. They had broken the siege of leningrad. There wasnt a huge tank battle that occurs. As after stalingrad, hitler said the gods of war turned against us. And the army was captured and the germans were in a full retreat to germany. And it was in that process that the soviets liberated bunch of the kinds of treasury cabs and were viewed as a liberators. And much of eastern and Central Europe at the world knew that at the time, even the New York Times is writing. That if we win this war and were not in slavery to the nazis, weve got to think the so relic soviets for making this possible. So was that a concerted effort . Was it a concerted effort to change the thinking of that . How did that go away . Where now the only time we talked about the soviets in world war 2 was the atrocities they committed as they were going through poland and germany. Its uh, this is as a vandenberg set to truman that if he wants to get the truman doctrines through congress, that if he wants to get to us to take over for the british and greece as well as modernizing the turkish army. Hes going to have to scare the hell out of the American People. Those are the words they use. Scare the hell out of the American People. And thats what wallace warned about. He said out of fear, great nations are acting like corner beast. As it is talking about the United States and the british. So, so, so we used to sometimes here, so we used ferry van to try and convince the American People to hate, quote unquote, soviets backslash rough shop. And we did the same thing to try and get into the last 4. Ive got a stan syria and now apparently were doing the same thing with ukraine, making up the story that po and the russians are about to invade europe and take it over. I read that in your, in your writings, same thing that we were being told 5060708098 years ago. What means all of them of the college fost threat installation. And this has happened over and over again with n s c 68. In 1950 for guy. How does they convince the world to the United States to quadruple its military spending . By saying that we have to be prepared to not do what was to respond to what we think is likely on the part of the soviets. But we think they are capable of in a worst case scenario. And we did so the effect of the korean war was to get n s. These 68 pass. It was neat, says idea to prod, drupal us military spending. We see the same thing after the soviets once button there. In 1957. If you read the gates a report or the york Washington Post characterization, the United States is facing the greatest peril in his history. And how do we respond . We respond to by fear mongering. And so the Strategic Air command said we have to build 10000 new icbm. The air force want to 3000. The lowest number of mcnamara thought he could get away with was increasing a 1000 hang for salvia tech for at the time. And how did a look what the us was doing . How does that look to them . I looked as if the us preparing for our 1st right Nuclear Strike against the soviet union to wipe it out. As best as that, why do we have, why do they have the missiles in cuba and theres all the history. Yeah, theres not just but the same thing with more recently George W Bush and the project for a new american century. Mm hm. The all costs or reagan and the committee on the present danger. I have all that go over and over the same mistake. And now would say that putting wants to take over europe. I mean, its crazy. They can barely discrete ukraine. Its the same argument over and over again. The same scare tactics over and over again. The on told the history of the United States, oliver stone and v peter goose neck professor. Thank you so much for joining us. Great conversation. Its patrick. Its always great. 3, with your end to end with you, sir, and with you at before we go, i just have to remind you of her permission really its to the side of the world. I mean, weve got to stop living in these little boxes where we think we know everything truths dont live in boxes, neither do we. Neither does this show. This is where we are. Im rick sanchez. And this is director a the, a video of alleged abuse by an officer today, the sheriffs deputy in columbia, south carolina, forcibly removed his student from a classroom at Spring Valley high school. I saw him just talked to her sprained her. And initially, you know, i didnt think is a problem because i knew that she was just, is quite a student in the class. Someone likes the Police Officer and says, here as Law Enforcement that is worse. Clearly attacking, abusing power in a torch. And then there are others besides, this is whats wrong with those probably be on discipline, black children. He was there, enforcing a lot to meet the crime, to quote, disturb schools in any way. That means any disturbance that any kids causes and school is huge and forces never pretty but necessary. A tops people were never gonna change them out. And so people will never change their minds. Thats video. They think i was wrong. And thats it. The when i 1st moved to rush i, one of the most Amazing Things i found was to moscow metro. In fact, the very 1st phrase that i ever learned and nothing was powerful, doors are closing. So what makes this place so specially what secrets is of hiding to find out deep under the city with alexander pop off to the store and who studies the wonders of the moscow metro, the metro them, subway. Oper budget friendly, efficient in eco friendly Transportation Options for urban dwellers. But while the cost to rises, pay affordable, the investment required to build and to maintain a system is substantial. Im christy i in today were going to be talking about the