The we are going away from the colonial, the influenza, the indian system had by revenue as an oil is, are different than you are, the and everybody who comes to me and the sides, bye bye. Hello and welcome. Im on if im not ever changing the book because now more than ever is on india on the show. We bring your unique and establish guest and their views on indian culture, politics and history. This week. My guess is one of the most i provided for them in the law as in india, please welcome mr sedation, banish and no scribe. So they can verizon. Wonderful, wonderful, thank you very much for joining us that you have from the hardwired. Yeah, and you came here, your father was a child. Yeah. And rich department, young and under department and then after care government. Okay. And you came here. I came in and 1980 g. Yeah. In 1982 i had competed for the call completion of 4 law students that were certified towards the d as in biased or the one of the top one. But i lost it. And so that you have contacted with about tons of different day, incidentally, who use your license subject is all the to just looking for the competition very from on back me that you just as of the one bad court in the next scene had judge me. So they spotted me and does it do i dont think im on be able to set you up with somebody. So thats how i know the i joined us. You know, i got rid of mister knight. Hm. I mean like, so i the industry my just and after about 68 months i drive is that im doing too many pets. I joined them right now the 10 years. So those 10 me, as i worked almost 16 to 18 hours a day, he goes to work with the top criminal lawyer who had to perform yes. And the audio sense. Yeah. So he taught me a lot. Mr. Did provide me with the nice boss. Yes. You know, that will be jameson and he to get those. Lets see that all of us got enough work. We heard enough money just so i went and after id your name, i didnt go back to the new joining the profession with values on not necessarily taken care of. Riley was one of the legal fees are really important. Okay. I take up with this, not because i want to different to come to me. Id take up a case because i belong to live practice getting a lot. So those people who come to me as a defense lawyer, most of them went back as of right now, is, are necessary that all of them are going to deal with the banks, and some of them are low streams like it did. Some of them did crimes because of the to situations. Some of them uh, did it as a profession in the sense that i different that a lot, lot number of my lives and the for us to get off my lights, then i switched or do if anything, the door in my back i appeared for the dog a little bit for the chart that i didnt grow by a beautiful i dont know name. So lets say we in those 10 year that i practice law has a neutral, i mean none of these guys come to him but defend the their cases. So since i was your name austin chambers with all the work for letting me know, so because of that there was trouble a lot of 1st nothing aggression in the sense that i had to dig up all of the material myself and build up the case. Are different the case. I feel im going to be that the a good job in the sense that the came back to me again and again. Thats how i built my practice. And then in 99, the g i appear to send you that youre like use the of some offenses in the bottom left case. And i was successful in convincing the judge along with my senior lawyers and the team that does and you are started or in the bottom last he was accused of for the single fight on. But there was an art for the purpose of any of those acts. Would you attempted by radius of the accused . So hell get off the dentist bag and the for as well as being in those days because his family is like, you know, so many things. And in fact by remember thats, ive been mean were going ones in the car thats im just on the other side. Of the side, the airport is a windows dog. And when i go to here and somebody on the motorcycle saying that they call and look at the data, saw that. Wow. So that was like, i know football said that it was created that bank and it was successful. In fact, i got on the card to say that the funds you or did his father being like the same as dave and the family is clear of all the time his back because of that took care of that. I did. I got off a friend in the body. What does it bother me sometimes that you know exactly that the person you are defending has come into the crime and just do that because it does happen to be a number of things. So can you hear me . Yeah, me look about and then me and my dad, he had a secret be just life, a little bit about us and maybe this didnt terminals us. I bought it from my job. So one fine day the wife complained to him that the local level is asking me so when she told us about about this story, it was very and based and one fine day he said hed be tremendous. And so the kids are having call that to hold them to the money to got him drunk, to the knee by the watchman, cardboard of his hands and legs, and the side of the garden sword and dropped his head off and came to me with the blood st. George in the sock, i asked him, why did he do it . Because it said i had to say of the, of my family, my wife was being at best buy this or to them. So i did it. I had a different name before the kids could come out for a final day. Eat up, squandered, and when are sort of in the sofa, but i didnt feel bad. I mean definitive. So let me uh, mostly me, uh try well what im saying was stream di, what is because in the Muslim Community that allowed to marry the 1st cause of the gods. First cousin hasnt begun. Jordan and scold me. And one fine day she complained to apply to that about this. Why is this brother of mine who is harassing me . And you also get married to me. So one fine day, the 5 that called the board to his house, they gave him a cup of tea, is listed with some poison. After a felon conscious, the dropped off his head, the head was thrown and i didnt see it on the phone. So they came to me to defend the the father are different, they didnt look at me and we brought to the court that the, there was no evidence against him because the knife but the producer did not have one. But it had the strains of footboard which they used to know, which ive done. I didnt feel bad, different thing these guys because uh, 1st of all, it does not mind. Youll do to prove that he was innocent, is presented to me, and most of the prosecution could not pull the case against him. My value as a lawyer is different than you are the and everybody who comes to me, all right. It is for the court to decide on the evidence that is produced by the prosecution. Well thats i see if somebody is guilty thats, thats induced burdens and india and that is taught to the lives in the law school. Thats how it does start, that you might be used to listen to a person. Me. If i dont want to defend him, i cant refuse to accept the belief. But if i defended my bus and thatll be all in the case as know that you know that you would have student liter near a colleague, right . Allow others were the and i used to like the lady in the lead, the muscles and i used to live on storm buses and im sure youre the called the cause. But i did it for the little bit purpose of our do minds. Where did our bridge . We did not do it getting any advantage financially. Your father knew about it, that you wouldnt mind. I knew about it and my friendship. And once he saw me doing it, because i read meeting the delegation to the university. And we had the guidelines from the west side stuff. And since i was a shock this on the natives and they told me to stand in front of them before the god landed their vice as the warranty. Oh god landed. I gave a speech because i had a good debate to me and we got the examinations postpone me. So when they brought me back to the college, on a direct up with the flowers and then okay, that was my principal guard. Took it off me and said, thats a piece i gave you admission in my University One day because i was referred by a principal all the comments college that did a good student for me. And the here youre finding hard to be able to do. Im your artist or do you mean by college the next year . You better sit down and get you a problem much and get hacked from the notes. Have you ever been to your or you become a street fighter . No, i was connected with them and then became a studios boy that i was from them into school. What are your thoughts on media about and its not only a problem in india is a problem all over the world, especially given that i slipped. It isnt more than a c, g. I remember them is good to let the people know that this is happening or what is happening now is a add section on the press. Except that particular story of the bus number agenda with the project manager and. And they, they, they, they invade the privacy, not only other thing, but of the accused. So basically its a lot of what hindrance, not only for the victim, but the wonderful, the accused. Because before the travel even starts, before theyve got people really made up their mind as to what the person is that a program good, the audience. And in order in mind that interferes with the course of justice. Number 2 does not do it as a thing, and i already dollars. I mean from the mad me what, but to be because of the newspapers choices because social media because of the electronic media, they just do it in french. But i think i before they come to court, they are related to story in the newspapers are in the social media and come to god. So it is possible that, that they dont have really been in mind, but the sit in court. And then theres going to be some insurance. So bring corners, said number of times that the police are part of dues. I should not discuss the cases that become that investigation to the public. It should not distort the names of the misses you should not destroy the names of the victims. You should not in this road aboard the box. It should not bring that big. Just in spite of that, this keeps happening. A big question mark aboard the fair to conduct the track. This invasion of privacy is it hasnt been, dont know the what the media, theres no control inside time that the, our government been the Supreme Court. So i say that i am, but i would say law as blind, is it the new system which has come to the independence or the british jurisprudence in the british system . Because there were low country for hundreds of yes. And you didnt been in the court, but you didnt able to exact. And the commitment was theres a court, particularly for that i was framed in 1816 so that the law continued in our country did about. Now the government of india has realized that most of those laws, red object laws, number one. Now what do they are meant to protect the British Crown and the fines and the punishment, the boys did not match the present system in the work. Secondly, the nation where that is on why did not come into the prison system and the sense that if you are you, im a 6 months in prison, but for the but he, me a scramble to see this claim. The bus center come out after 6 months in the dental fence, and so once the government, every day is done about it is particularly optimism that and then when they came in to the unit cabinet in the country, he had promised us that every day you wouldnt delete one last that itd be the same, but the edition, youre happy with the time happy. Im happy in the june, because uh, we are going away from the colonial influenza that the indian system had. The language that has been used in the court yesterday. As being either sort, but the local population, i dont know the language was english and in all the courts. Now if you go to, would you like to hear good judgments . And were not the, if you go to the level, the Court Proceedings take this environment. And so the common man who is the biggest, theyre going to be good to know what is happening in this case and or not. Is it right in, in the respect of cyber claims in the spring toby electronic offenses in desperate videos. Other electronic more so commenting or fences that are being brought into the new law that the government of india has promised to get it to be in force in the next 3 months. And then this emma, yes for and including me. I have led lives which are larger than life. Yes. Lucky in my life i have only needed a lawyer once. Yeah. Um it was uh, my friend go online with the guy who would be the way to talk to you for that. Yes. Before that i played this role of life, but i see it on the map in spanish. I thought yeah. So i went to the good i think good to engine while i was the just yes yes. Yeah. And there was a case Defamation Case and belong brought up. This is trolling fees. And hes talking like this. Now im trying, the thinking was indeed speaking loudly. Hes supposed to speak loudly because the judges not listening. So as a glum, dont speak, speak loudly, and he kept saying, you dont know, have this one to say that might choose to have my, the stand that i should speak loudly. You said, do i teach you how to act . So when you see this depiction orders ordered the victim in different rooms and our country is nothing compared to what actually happens in the courtroom. I remember in 1986 and i was the industry. Were just trying to fight the father on behalf of the children because the father had to come to my mistress and therefore the children are finding the father and the mistress splitting position of their share of the property. And so we part of the case and i one because we came back to the card. No getting back to the office. Ive done getting the order in oliver. So mike lions told me that i did all that and we won the case, but we didnt like the way you far. So i said why didnt do like guy when the kids for you is it know the guy, the sure in the fields. No. 5 that started oh, how much is it for the and god beat on your table or you dont pick up the books and throw it to the judge. All these things dont happen. Ive just just the system is very slow. Then this whole thing about Justice Blake justice denied the 2 web d like so that the people as of democracy, one of them is set you up. The one is exit. Could do that alone is a tradition due to chevy is the most like, like the oregon are forced by own, by a government running the game independent. We had courts set there by the british and the same set of courts shouldnt continue. Number one, if you go to the bottom rank or constructed for a student of mine called drugs and the style to day, we have 91. 00 to just so impressed extra that goes by 9. In order to say that is not sufficient for the 91. This, that the besides about the courts and by me and others, henderson, the number of judges that i meant for listening distance to the population, out country inter now uh, one judge. Part of 50000. 00 population or in fact we should have presented just for the balloon population and we have on well, what are the times less than what we actually require that the infected is so bad in the new digital system, the governors government, which came to by what is my name for this . I did not interest enough money in this ongoing of the state. The be all meant had been brandy and jewels funds, not on me to build a large number of ports and now let me send them the traditional system. But also include the number of goods where more than 5 broad cases, spending all over the country. Now that its the same spread bidick. Yeah. So when i be able to come to me, hey, ill just tell them that you may find ok small, but its possible to do a grand job and make it some justice in this case, going to expect you to be a lifetime because each case, dick so what do i need to do . And if i, yes, do you think judy system was better and why than the judy system working to the georgia system or the polished you need the not know what the get go, not out the gets. Because in spite of the fact that the person was, hasnt given the but the courts and the duties decided to give them the let him go. So therefore that was the last case wed do. The system was used in our country. They dont have introduced a reminder due to my as to what the case is about the so how do you regulate the public demand . See, we dont have to go by public democracy and where to go over the law. That is the same. And we had to go by the president that has been set up by the judgements and the public may not like it, but where to go with the internet has changed the whole system off. There are so many cyber drives im but when i blank and because that leah was to spend i was in the subject line been a regular meetings and now. 4 with the electronic age against it didnt even ask me and get the purpose of the bed with a different button right. Beginning and then bad law. And that is it live in for that particular case. And because of the brand that make, we had what drug court functioning all of the country. India was one of the 1st few countries would use the electronic models, conducting a case in the band dispensation of just as of the big a much foster plus it has been made accessible through every bus and able to call my man against it at home or disappear proceedings on his mobile, i dont know what youre the, but farm and know what is happening and the lot in the country up against it, anywhere in the country and me gone out of the country and out of your just before any go it out of the things where we are, i good one case in july, 1 case in the spring course one, getting the bomb back board or one case in the notes on this arent possible. And do this got on the bus and that the issue i li, a filing of papers in the court, men that you have to spend with is certified to 50000 to pieces. But, but it shouldnt be, but it has all over the card. They need business a bank or they are trying to get funding. It is a paperless card. So my electronic agent had them because theyre all electronically offenses. Theyve been coming to all of the cyber space. It doesnt come with the financial pro fraud sitting outside due to the action of a court. You can get to know who he is and within a minute, lets get somebody to complete that i plus and minus points of the electronic image. But its helpful in the light, isnt we . Are there any exciting status for a country . What are your thoughts on india and 2024. When i was in school in my home, they dont have a telephone. If i had to go back to me, i need do this and itll take me at least 10 to 12 hours to reach my home. The just want to do, let me just uh and uh, to get the booking on the train. Youre the person to go to the station, the station trying to make you of what i was. And again, that to get that you got it. I dont. What category, electronically . It is more to transport that trans that are buses that are a cops on it. Then you want to add it back to the envelope. So life has become much faster. But also to anybody in those days. In way below, you will see that the accident that this will take me is that because off the bus thought id try got a guide. Well, usually pick a tree. Theres no width of that or for the diode, but just im so infested. Shut all over the country as improved. If you read the book, you would go to the 500 people and stand and make you and get you a vital thats on the stage today. Theres a bite gas out of the country. So then by life is changed in the last 1015 minutes. And i couldnt do it for the present government because they are making sure that the common man is not the left or the facilities, the ditch man to get parliament also passed womens as ration bill in 2023. How important the future of womens rights in india you think was a better asking for jack and so, so i think so we may not know please let him know. So say like you went today in some, some areas in the country. Weve been asked him to bring in, but about the amount of hard to get more benefits until the Supreme Court came up with law that the one in 5 different on an image and maybe as it relates. And i said so far the ancestors had to be made so that when you, when in the one family destiny garcia was born or the one for a martin, your not a shed and that for this property. So the system has any bring about it does very yes ensure that we meant that we shouldnt be allowed to be passed because in spite of all these uh, evolution that are taking place. Were interested not being integrated bank though. They are being bored slowly and suddenly you run into courts. Youll see a large number of inflicts of drugs coming into breakfast. Very, very calm, but that a lot so many large number of cnn lawyers designated by the various courts. As part of the american side, you dont find that large number of images. Of course that would make rules that women should be empowered and they dont have and they dont do on a point the lady did just. Yeah, the presumptive justice said that some day that the remainder of the big you and equally important to run in need of administration of justice. So thats what im saying. So the ration thatd be made. It very apt, in the sense that youd like, you dont know, you had bad one 3rd audio on top of the other women because how the population is made of women. Right . If you say the numbers in some states, we mean that much longer than men. Yes. So its a good deal up, and i thought i did the present government for having the division diligence coming in into the system. Now, how well, what do you see the future . Good thing affected by this, really like, lets say it was a scientific gable roof and pluses and minuses. I agree completely. If you read to use a i in the direction of a case, its very easy to detect the claim. But that ive done this said one big decision by using a offense is being committed in the sense that the worries of the person is being used or done in such a might not that so this one isnt dig again, speak as mr cache. Thats a scientific illusion. The mistake of bits that a lot of i thought i feel about it. Im happy as long as any used by the duty ready to be used to cover defenses. Yeah, i see that a lot of folks uh 50 percent of cases approval and ill do that even today if i, if i t brought it to my largest, im really comes to me on my boss. And so im good for that. He had brought me that he was new to him for us. And if a boy, maam comes to you, you must do. It broke up for people to come to me, but take my number from a newspaper on the electronic space and contact me for help me. So people who come to me with the weird is push the bag. Now, before giving pro one of the services, we dont need a besides it, but we do, it is losing it is its kind of a set back is all is a said back of a sense if youre the executive having works your heart and having a budget a part of you, you would feel that you are part of law or youre buying them facts, but im not accepted by the judge and so you feel bad about it, but then you can stop to continue doing your cases. So what is important for like any jersey that were making money . You must go said section of a particular website that has so many cases that i forwarded last. But i had this type of section of writing for good, read win or lose. Every person has a lot of scope. You want to kids as it has its own, how does it does own destiny. So we have not somebody which we can gen the cause of distant destiny cannot be changed. So monday the fate of it gets kind of changed. But uh, do you get the more still involved with their time . Well, one of the 1st things that ive done as a lawyer is you must keep your heart at 12 and then go to park. Because you economy and most of in the court. The case may be very tough. The kids may have all the big thoughts. It gives may have already been worked on the under. Dont that kind of a must, fisher not affect you . And if i think it is, well get really close direct link daugherty, or it takes a long time for the case to be disposed off on in our courts. So you meet very often your dental very often. You feel bad if you lose those cases. But then the next step is always gonna be in that you can find a new brand, get this, this from the different clock. So when youre trained and you are to try and do you also tell them how to lie realized now what the leverage is to get a light on the contract and then send by the to ok. Were just done with the to me, you dont have to memorize your answer. And if a dead one lie get memorizing it, the other light. Yes. And but somebody because delays are very easy to be got. But if youre starting with a drug, essentially a memory, you dont have to you when you come or do a set up the, its going to be coming to you. Im centered and the dollar signs by uh, the best of times. Thats right. Is it fascinating to be friends with fin stars . See, 1st of all they have a very george or personality in the media. What do i need actually made them that are, or theyre predicted by the media. If you go to their homes, they also live in the same kind of flag that you live and the one sentence for the justice you would like to leave us with. This is getting on the order. Its all as bad as long as you stand, but the the ones who go by drugs, this is really all, lets do it because of this done. Thank you mr. Manish in the and thank you for watching. 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