The live from our International Use center in moscow. This is our t hello and welcome to the program. Russia is wanting nothing. European union is shooting itself in the thoughts for proposal to use russian money for ukraine is given the green light. You Foreign Policy chief use appraisal is seeking to spend 90 percent of the revenue earned on frozen russian assets on age and munition. For kids must go, saves the new vote, provo, decades of legal buckets. It to show this is an out of a statement in line with the Movement Towards the destruction of the illegal foundations of europe. In an International Law, the europeans are well aware of the damage such a decision can bring both to their economy and to their reputation as reliable guarantors of the involve ability of property. The damage will be inevitable. The persons who will be involved in making such decisions, the countries that will decide this, they will become the object of prosecution for many decades. Yeah, well its basically the new resort thing to assess when hes thinking to new lows. So fond its front of the crane, as we know is the credit is really running dangerously low and munitions. The help that its expected from the us in terms of money and weapons. Its stalling, as they can come to an agreement. Theyre so ego officials said, hey, what can we do vote, lets use the money that we froze from the russians. And this is exactly what theyre doing. The proposal right now is to use the profit acquired from those assets and uh, from the war. And you can now lets talk a little bit about these, this is what i was talking about. We have about 300000000000. 00 belonging to the Russian Central Bank that was frozen by the west. The majority of that money is held by a company do real clear in belgium, and they have made done their math. And apparently, all this money, this profit could yield them about 15000000. 00 up to 20000000000. 00 euros after tax until 2027. So this is the money that they can use to fund the war decline to buy weapons and all of that, this is what theyre proposing right now. So Joseph Burrell decided to propose this to e Member States. I send to the country to a proposal commercial decision, a proposal for commercial decision to locate the bulk of these revenue to the, to be in Union Financial capacity. And this proposal is about to locate 90 percent of these revenue to be beast facility. On the top or the 5 billions, not them substitution off, but adding to these 5000000000 revenues generated by disclosing assets. You know that to increase the military support to ukraine. So its official, there he is. There he propose that we are getting reports right now that apparently the European Commission has approve that plan even though there was supposed to discuss this and vote on this after you Leaders Summit taking place on thursday and friday. But we are now getting reports of the European Commission has approved it, more of us to move like inside the you of this proposal. But originally the idea was yes to use these assets to use this profit to help rebuild the ukraine for reconstruction force and mandatory an aide. And some of the Member States were agreeing with this the way that went along with it. But they didnt like the idea of it being used in any militarily, sort of ways. And it was, or sort of underlying that European Commission impressively, that this really into ideal, hey, listen, only use this was you mandatory and purposes. Lets actually use it where we need it most to buy those weapons that you credit badly, since they are not able to do it themselves. Lets have the russian money do it to for them. And a lot of people and nobody appreciating all these new ideas that are so live on the line. Keep simon recently. There is a growing discontent against fonder. Lion for improvising said an e u diplomat. Diplomat said, fonder, lions approach is particularly disadvantageous for smaller members, states that have more to gain from collective decision making. Now we have all these countries that are not agreeing in terms of these assets being used to help buy weapons. But joseph morrell, for example, says, well, this is a brilliant idea of why, because its not, theyre not using the easy bunch of this money would go to a special fund that is called the european niece facility, which is adults in itself to have the word piece in there and this fund runs off budget, so it doesnt have to abide by the same legal standards or even be approved by the European Parliament. But also this is really bad in terms of what it does for countries that want to, for example, hold their money in western reserve, is because this shows them, hey, if one day in the future you happens to disagree with the west. They can always seize your assets, use the profit hes in the European Central bank before set that season. Ross and assets will undermine confidence in the your current c, n e u markets. But apparently now joseph or else as well theyre, theyre back in the plan because its only the process that were using, but the message and the idea that theyre sending through the world is exactly the same. This is again, another message were hearing from experts. Be careful when youre doing things like that. The sure of the global currents, you can actually go further and use ease finance or power to actively influence international developments. But this by work must be used wisely. Because when i think it currents may stimulate dimensions of alternatives, and unless i forget that russian courts can always retaliates because thats a company that holds the majority of the frozen russian assets. The euro clear in belgium. Well, actually, right here in moscow, they have the National Securities that add up to 33000000000 euros. So russell could retaliate and then sees their assets. So well see how it ends up. And were still waiting to see whether it was actually finally officially approved, or whether this will be discussed and put up to vote at the summit on thursday and friday. My colleagues, marina customer, of uh nicki are in there. Meanwhile, swedish piece research are um commented or a yellow bird saves them by seizing the interest from frozen rushing offsets. One investor would trust the you after the it seems to indicate that the European Union, as such, is running at the ideas of a long range and thinking on planning policy is often monday of amunition, of money for weapons. If others look at this and you can steal country is money, is that order revenues from what you have frozen at that . Who would, who would trust the west to put the money into the Western Banks . This is all totally self defeating in the long run. And the paradoxical be saw, our idea is that this was originally sold. If you accept the idea of stealing somebody elses money for your own purposes, he was told to be for rebuilding a civilian economy, a, rebuilding ukraine. Now it seems to be moving to becoming a, just a at fort for weapons to ukraine. Now is this is the most foolish thing you can do because you take one step after the other away from indigo shaded solution. Now our region in ukraine has decided to honor the instruments, not see veteran yet us love, who with the middle of scandal interrupted last year. We may recall when the canadian Prime Minister applauded the boston ss veteran in parliament, your side of the ukrainian consul in question just the fine their tribute to the 3rd right collaborator, a yellow slab home alicia division veteran is to be decorated for a significant personal contribution to providing assistance to Ukrainian Armed forces in charitable and public activities. So its not exactly clear what contribution zeros, lab hung come made to the armed forces of ukraine beyond. Of course this service and hitlers watson s ask alicia division of ukrainian nazis who spent world war 2, killing jews and our russian allies fighting against hitler along with us in the west at the time. Hes 99 years old now and yeah, you freight is getting short on troops, but i still dont think theyre calling up the 99 year old x thats from canada yet to serve as cannon fodder. So about the only quote public activity that home god is actually known for these days is sitting in canadian parliament, well visiting ukrainian Prime Minister of libraries, whiskey and all of kansas elected representatives. Cheered as a House Speaker introduced them as a guide who fought russians. Totally ignoring the historical contacts that russians back then were allies of the west against hitler. We have here in the chamber today ukrainian canadians, ukrainian canadian world veteran from the 2nd world war who fought ukrainian independence against the russians. The justice you pre Regional Council is doing russian propaganda now ripping off this band aid on to those political career and putting hunger back into the spotlight with an award and the name of arrows live stetsco, whose name as an added bonus, figures and some online the holocaust studies courses as someone known for getting the nazis who seal of approval for their extermination methods used on jews. Former House Speaker spoke goes and explained that all. So hugo was his constituent and lived in his district. And he said last year that he had invited honk god to parliament, what actually happened road at clarified was that the Canadian Ukrainian Congress lobby put forward honk his name. And the Parliamentary Protocol Office had the whole list. That is by true those office with a fine tooth comb. Before that invitation was sent out. Not surprising that the Russian Embassy had a bit of fun with that fact. He was Prime Minister justin to domain bought to desktops criminal to the Parliament Last year. As recommended by the current in canada and community, thats 5 months later still that silent, dont you of whom cause nancy post. No condemnation equals justification. Ginger though, characterized as new fiasco, which was revealed alongside another new little bit of information that hunk i had also been invited to a private invite. You all need swab a in toronto with true those a wednesday and about a 1000 other of their closest friends. Now the email, the invite for that came from to those office and that was linked to the Canadian Press also back in february. At which point the official opposition wants to know. Why true though, didnt come clean about all of this when he had a chance. Months ago. Now we know that he personally invited that same individual and he said that the former speaker had to resign or were doing the exact same thing. So will he hold himself to the very same standard method hes not fit for off the leader of the off position is choosing to meet against the ukrainian canadian congress. Straight to this conservative party no longer stands with ukraine, used to shoot to not stand. We do not stand with you, not with you and you all team zalinski is talking about how theyre ready to join you like right now, because the clean up in ukraine is going faster than expected. Maybe that has something to do with crude inciting. The notification as one of the 2 goals that process military operation. In any case, it looks like they may have missed a spot over there at the turn up all region. A lot of drama for a country thats already really High Maintenance and cost to a lot of my age. The westons. Well to kind of high drama that usually reads to a breakup long before marriage. Rachel morrison taking us through with us while we spoke to a finished journalist based in dont boss whos on the view, the west silence housing boland ukraine to flirt heavily with nazis and waste of course this year on the firing line. Because we dont here to going donation. Were here, silas official support for nazis, goes to the years or full of minorities and adults can be victims of a possible ethnic nationalism. And thats why great is playing with fire may be even kind of a black man in the western leaders that even if you dont continue to support those, we will raise the these issues. And that will cause a house in the western countries where the integrated, the immigration population will react strongly. They are losing their home wrong. These, these support for the gradient, nazis will come widely known in the western western countries, adding the red population. So on a related theme, the European Union has extended as tara free policy on ukrainian agricultural import stubs, despite the months long protest by farmers across the confident against the use trade privileges for key f. In addition, brussel saves action will be taken if your pin markets are serious, be impacted by that. The commission can take swift action and impose any measures it deems necessary. Should there be significant disruption to the market or the markets of one or more e u countries due to ukrainian imports. Members of the European Parliament secured the expansion of this list to include outs, mays growth and honey. They also obtained Firm Commitments from the commission to take action if there was a surge of ukrainian imports of wheat, polish farmers. How being among the strongest critic something used policy colon has been dealing with nationwide protest with farmers for locking, border roads, preventing your printing and trucks from entering the loc as well. Those rallying, se ukrainian imports are lowering prices on the european markets, and putting farmers livelihoods in jeopardy or use of hockey and hungry joint warsaw, claiming they would defy the use directed in the event of part of suspension for a key of being prolonged global effort specialist towards that will really say is that you use new regulation is hurting its own citizens. We know exactly how the you operate, the least of its concerns is the well being all of its citizens and of the most powerful voices in the you are actually very honest, sympathetic toward the farmers and are obsessed with the whole issue of ukraine. Quite why that is so obsessed with ukraine here remains a mystery. But nonetheless, they feel that they have to do whatever they can to commit themselves to ukraine. And so this decision of essentially extending for uh, you know, the yeah, the tire, a free imports of grain from ukraine is clearly an insult to the farmers. And its going to do absolutely nothing. Clearly this is causing immense hardship. So the follows pack of cultural products are being sold at ridiculously low prices, while at the same time, inflation and Interest Rates hitting them hot. When for all the products that they need to buy in order to maintain their phones. Protecting civilians must be a priority. What washington has said and urging israel to delay any military offensive in the city of rafa to ensure the safety of policy the needs. However, at the same time the us is continuing the flow of weapons to its ally. We acknowledge from the very beginning that israel has a fundamental right to be able to defend itself. And, and so were going to continue to support them as a, as they try to do that and assure that they have what they need to defend their people. But we also recognize the importance of ensuring that people remain safe and gauze and a 2 things arent mutually exclusive. Or weve been clear about the need to prioritize the protection of civilians. So that, that should be a key part of any military, any plan in any type of operational planning to for, to account for and protect those civilians that are in the battle space. And again, weve yet to see such a plan, but well have an opportunity to engage the leadership here on that. So its almost as it does have a plan. No one saw it yet. But anyway, it seems that these roles and vision into rough on is the matter of when not if, despite growing global disapproval, the biggest concern was and remains the estimated 1500000 palestinians currently sheltering in the area more than half of gas as population. And many swap the worlds have been warning against invading such a densely populated region. But isnt it on the whole, these really Prime Minister takes into consideration any opinion from abroad. That would be american america is send and conflicting messages from one hand. It says dont invade rafa and his monday phone conversation, for example, with newton yahoo bite. And according to his administration, said, the sold will be at least take the Us National Security adviser also points and it would lead to more innocent civilian deaths and deep and humanitarian crisis in the in place. And yeah, who doesnt have the, nor this criticism, a high renting is rarely delegation is off to the us. So presents. And hes really plan off evacuation of gases before the operation and to call the American Leadership as well separately is really defense minister also travels to the us next week to meet his american counterpart and clearly, russell will be on the agenda. But at the same time, we just heard the us secretary of defense reiterating washington, his commitment to our israel, no matter what, even before they. So n, hes rarely plan or relocation gas is 1500000. 00 palestinians from rough or before the on slots. So why would israel care at all that decision has being made and there are no real obstacles to the, the model. We have an argument with the americans about the need to enter off on record, not about the need to eliminate him off the need to enter rafa. We see no way to eliminate how mos militarily, without destroying these remaining battalions out of respect for the us president. We agreed on the way in which they could present their ideas to us, especially on the humanitarian side, which we have coal share in this desire to allow an orderly exit of the population and provide aid to the civilian population. But i made it clear to the president in our conversation in the clearest way that we are determined to complete the elimination of these battalions in rough up. And there is no way to do it other than the Ground Invasion within the hour. So confidence, in fact, america is divided over washington. The support of h ro, city are figures in the, by the administration and auditor, us Officials Say israel is breaking the law in gaza with the help of america and using american weapons, making washington accomplice on the pressure from Congress President to by and introduce a new policy last month requiring all countries that receive American Military supports to abide by us and International Law provided it to continue his backend of israel, secretaries of state and decides must endorse these roles, assurances, sons, before within the next 5 days. On tuesday, the u. S. And best of it to israel privately told the state department of israel fulfills as obligations and thats part furious reaction across the american political establishment with officials calling the ambassadors assessment homeless, comical, unobserved, unclear, actually what decision will eventually be made. But in the meantime, to human rights organizations submitted to ad documents to the us governments claiming these rarely assurances are not credible. They accused israel violated International Humanitarian law and urge the america to stop arman as well, and a joints memorandum, base summarized as rarely violations, such as striking hospitals and ambulances, or preventing humanitarian aid, including us, funded from crossing into the gather streets, we urge secretaries blinking and austin, to consider the likely violations below when determining the credibility of these really governments assurances in response to n s. M. 20 ox fam, and human rights watch. Believe a suspension of arms transfers to israel is necessary so long as there is an overriding risk that they are being used to commit or facilitate serious violations of International Humanitarian and human rights law and us law and policy. While President Joe Biden and others supporting arms deliveries for israel, se washington sends weapons to help israel defend itself and protect its citizens. In fact, americans suppose israel with all kinds of weapons and in much bigger amounts than it is needed for self defense. In 5 months of the war, washington improved and delivering more than 100. 00 separate for and military sales to israel, including thousands of precision guided munitions and bonds. Previous, the only 2 approved contracts were made probably x h, more than a 100000000. 00 wars. And it turned out the figure is much higher to versus 100. 00. And that shows just how extensively washington is involved in the 5 month long conflict and guys that it has so much criticism about, but only in wards iris to shortly over to our house. Unexpectedly resigned from this post. Im from the leadership of the affinity guild party, which is the majority partner in the countrys ruling coalition. This was his emotional address. A slam resigning is present and leaders and the guy was active today. I will resign as soon as my successor is able to take up that office that has the most fulfilling time of my life. However, politicians are human beings. I havent invitations. We give it every time until we count anymore. And then we have to move on. My reasons for stepping down are both personal and political. There are loyal colleagues and good friends contesting local european elections. And i want to give them the best chance possible. And i think theres a better chance under a new leader. The bomb shell in iceland comes less than a fortnight after iris voters overwhelmingly rejected, proposed changes to the countries the constitution including saying no to the definition of the family being altered the referendum was one of the cornerstones of the Prime Ministers social policy agenda. Opposition party heads including from sion fame which supports re unification with northern ireland, already called for the dates of a general election to be brought forward. Heres one other similar if you heard earlier in parliament. Busy or on expected decision to signal that your staffing down as t shock bears all the signs of a government that has lost confidence in itself. Because it knows it has lost the confidence of the majority of people in this country. So we dont need a shifting of the deck chairs on the titanic. We dont need an internal election in seen a gale. We need the people to decide we need a general election here. That is the democratic thing to do well. Iris based independent journalist, jason michael, it saves mr. Rod chris resignation came as a surprise, but theres a predictable consequence following a quote catalog of political failures. None of this is a surprise. Its come with a little bit of a shock that the to show cause, you know, resigned to like this. Im having watched his resignation. It seems to many people that you know, his resignation has come with a little bit of a shock even to himself. No one here is quite sure for any of the means. Im the most of the referenda leo. But id cons has sat over what has been described as a catalogue of political failures. The both referenda one on the family and one on k of was so badly presented to the i feel like to that that even those who would normally be in favor of such a thing just didnt feel that they have the personal confidence for them to stand on this we saw across the entire political spectrum by king a yes yes, uh, from the socialist pop. These last leading parties engine saying, who opened a yes. Yes. And both in the referendum, in the immediate aftermath where, you know, bit cutting, im challenging the government on the lack of explanation that was certainly felt on the ground and had all the whole marks of something. Im prepared. Ready in haste and cruelly can setup. All right, finally from orland to indonesia where a defense minister pro suby unto has been officially and on status. The next president s of the worlds 3rd biggest democracy of the engine easy in general elections, commission, release. The official results of last month, the following some where this mr. Should be on to so all 2 other candidates winning 59 percent of the total votes on securing 36. 00 of the nations 38. 00 is not scheduled to be sworn in as president in october, taking over from doing that or do, could we do to solve the problem was one of the losing rivals, so be on to well 1st need, however, to survive a legislative pro after opponents claim to receive food, improper support from president s window. Now the rhetoric coming out of some european capitals as regards the ukraine conflict. Its becoming increasingly more like what the confidence is far from united on a possible confrontation with russia to bidding next. If brussels actually has the opportunity for direct involvement as pro stuff the take a fresh look around his life. Kaleidoscopic isnt just a shifted reality distortion by tell us to do vision with no real opinions. Fixtures designed to simplify will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as 1st . Can you see through their illusion going underground can look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. A robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except were so shorter that conflict with the 1st law show alignment of the patient. We should be very careful about visual intelligence at the point, obviously is to makes a truck rather than to the area. I mean, with the artificial intelligence, we have so many with him in the a robot most protects his phone existence with alexis, the, [000 00 00;00] the hello and welcome to the cross talk. Were all things are considered. Im peter live out big talk empty words. How else to interpret the contradictory pronouncements coming out of european capitals on the subject of ukraine, bluster and threats are not a coherent policy. In fact,