The amount of civilians that have been killed, the name of saving democracy on anything ive ever seen. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, i agree. Well, its hard read all to contributor. Its good to have you. Good. Thank you so much for joining us here at our special elections. Judy, i oh, thank you. You so much. Thank right. Well, as voting was wrapping up on sunday evening, Vladimir Putin dressed questions from his Election Campaign headquarters. Heres a bit of what he had to say is to get that despite the terrorist attacks and you and i already know this, well, the citizens living in these territories have shown not just civic majority. They show coverage and continued to show it, no one as i thought, assumed and said recently, no one intimidated them. And it is impossible to intimidate out people. There are turnouts, both in the New Territories and in the border areas. The turn out is even higher than in the rest of the country. Its simply a response from the people to the actions, trying to intimidate them. Those who do it, dont understand who theyre dealing with. But in part, maybe its a good thing that they dont understand because in this case, of course, they will be defeated. Now they are trying, again, trying to get somewhere there to enter. They were destroyed. Almost 100 percent of them were destroyed. They moved forward by 100 meters. 25 tanks were destroyed. The enemy has concentrated a group of around 5000. 00 in the border area. Not directly on the state borderline but somewhere in their immediate rear. But the overall loss is about 40 percent. Of these about 35 percent r, irrevocable, 25. 00 tanks, dozens of Armored Vehicles and so on. If they like it that way, then in principle, it suits us because they mindlessly attack. Its such a meat grinder for them. Its even beneficial for us, let them try except a few days before mister and ive only passed away. Some colleagues told me, not administration officials, some people said there was an idea to exchange mister invalid me for some people who are in prison in western countries. You can believe me or not. The person who spoke to me had barely finished his sentence, but i said, i agree. But unfortunately what happened happens only on one condition that we exchange him so that he doesnt come back, let him sit there, thats all. But it happens, theres nothing one can do about it. Thats how life is. If you want to know my opinion on whether our elections are democratic or not, i think they are democratic. Or conversely, in some countries, for example, in your country, can it be considered democratic to use an administrative resource . In order to attack one of the candidates for president of the United States, including using new additional authorities, we have no preference for any of the candidates for president of the United States of america. We will work with whoever the voters trust, but the use of administrative resources, the judicial system. Its just become ridiculous and a disgrace to the whole world for the United States and for your democratic so called in quotes system that i have every reason to believe that we do not see any democracy, at least during the electoral processes and some western countries, including the United States today therefore accept the return pack please. I dont think its just that simple fact that all of these are not completely stupid people sitting in all the institutions that have been working against our country for decades. You know what their problem is, in my opinion, it lies in the fact that after the collapse of the soviet union, there were a very large number of specialists on the soviet union who could not do anything else, but fight the soviet union. And then with the russian and that arose in part of the territory. So they began to convince their Political Leadership and the public of their countries that they need to continue finishing, rush off, and in such a way that they themselves will not be left without a job. But still new generations of specialists are coming. They realistically assess the events taking place. I think they will be more sophisticated, but they will not change their goals with regard to russia or thats across live now to rush as a Central Election Commission headquarters are these are shot to do basically standing by for us to again, charlotte just quickly. We heard from elecom philip earlier, they the chief of the Central Election Commission. She talked about 12000000 Cyber Attacks that targeted the election process here in russia. She mentioned hundreds of thousands of other external online attacks as well. Um kai was really shocked by the numbers, frankly, all Things Considered though, across the 11 time zones and the 10s of millions of people vote and get sold on quite smoothly shot it. Yeah, thats why, since youre saying that rory, she mentioned 12000000 attacks on the system during the election process. A its a huge number. And despite that, people still to indict and manage to vote, we had some 8 to 6000000 people voting in the selection. But i want to talk you through some of the bit. She said about the Cyber Attacks, specifically, she said that they were full 120000. 00 attacks. This was specifically on the online voting website. This is with some 5000000 russian citizens were registered to vote and attempted to make that votes. She says that they will also be d o s attacks on traffic to the website with people cache. They both. And she said the overall, the different attachment for im 40 minutes over the last 3 days. That site was vulnerable to those attacks. But she said, despite that, despite all of the intimidation and she accused the west of being behind these attacks on the online platforms, she said people turned out. She also talked about the tall, get you the terrorist attacks of drones in residential buildings. And she talks about those individuals who lost their lives when they were attempting to vote, all those who were attempting to monitor the process. And she said, despite that there was no ability to influence the results. The technology that had was invented to support pilots. She called these been pathetic attempts and she said that there was this use of fortunately cool stuff, trying change the results of the selection. Well, put the impossible to change what weve seen, which is a line slide. The election for president putin who will now so if a 5th term as president , and i just want to bring a one story that we heard from this up for her region, which is one of the new we incorporated regions. We had the one of the individuals who was working in the Election Office that was actually killed as a result of one of these attacks. And apparently, within a few hours, her son turned up to replace her because he wanted to on her, her memory. In that way. By deciding that the best thing he could do is to stand in his mother said, and ensure that people could come and cast the ballots. And all these are all to do is get that live of the central Commission Headquarters in the heart of moscow. Charlotte, thank you very much. The charlotte. Thank you or joints in of, of one of the International Observers at the election that joseph, im a guy whos from the ruling party of tents in the address of great to have you with us here today. So you joined to 700 others from 109 other countries, comforter russia to help oversee the vote. What did you see personally, what were your impressions of what you saw . Um, so im very impressed. It was everything in the auto process all filed by the elections. By the way, i came here is the intention of observing how people have plucked his demo because he is a floating valley. Does a ive a freely to thoughts . Are they all plans and options or what so i can me and im very interesting. Everything was quiet smote people, they walk in, they it stops like 1. 00 to 2. 00 or 3 minutes to finish towards me and also they have a lot of options. So 14 they can vote, make them here, they give them the. Ready a registered with passports identification, then that was possible the off the passport that they have 2 or 3 options to vote me through how to codes just to keep that group. If you take would hold the president s whole going. I mean, these are when i mean, i mean now what for she wants then to put in the bottom model to books who left freely. Nobody that i, i didnt even know observe one chaos. Oh, objections of somebody. So it was a, was a simplified as you say, it was very simplified. Yeah. In terms of technology and options. Okay. But before we had, we had one of the election observers earlier actually telling us it was a bit boring because he said he said im looking for discrepancies. Im looking for problems. Im looking for some sort of anyones stuffing about anyones struggling green inc. Or what he said, nothing bad happened about come on. Youre going to tell me something, but he had nothing. But what do we was expecting to see that . But we didnt, didnt of one kills all problem in that action. So it was quiet. Most of the many, many hundreds of you guys, i mean, international javascript for how, how many countries 80010909 countries, you know, so be positive International Presence here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Weve seen plenty of praise for the election coming in from the global south. But in contrast, western countries not quick to stand up and congratulate didnt. In fact, im dumbing the election throughout. Do you think that in any way to live the legitimizes the result . Well, why, why did you think that were seeing such a discrepancy . To me, i didnt say everything in this erections. Very organized and dietetics and jim as committee was very organized in terms of the all clauses from the technology is allowing people to vote in a free anyway. But also, you know, in our country we would notice Different Things with to how he update port block dizzying democrats in special ed or not an option. So, you know, in our country you can be that you start in the suns, peters book and the day of voting you and most call you can vote. But here you can be, but just thought it was a video the day of watching you like most call, you can vote with this the chances. So there is a dentist, that means you create a lot of number of people to vote and to use it. They will trust patrols who they want. So to me this is very impressed. Ive been impressed doing that. Yeah. What do you think . What do you think about the relationship between russia and africa, for example, but with this new fund line to the multi poto world and, and so much of the world coming together to, to essentially turn the cold show to toes. What has been a hedge of on for the past few 100 years, im in africa as being, you know, raped and pillaged for so many hundreds of years now. But it seems that African Leaders and already standing told their almost emboldened demo confident. And theyve seen before, when i, we had to africa, russia, somebody in st. Petersburg last year. I met so many well delegations from africa and they was so positive they were so optimistic, there was a palpable energy. How would you describe the relationship now between confident and russia . To me, i can say this is a time full of good to take a genesis to be very close friend to is lashes in terms of technology and everything because you guys are doing the best. So we need to the last comment. Yes we, we often see the west use terms like unfairness or illegitimate when talking about leaders who are in favor of their own countries. Sovereignty, we hear them use these terms. Often times been talking about countries in africa, new share, for example. How much do you and how much do others in africa trust the west in, in terms of assessing the fairness of an election that it does . Does the west hold any superior already in that regard . Me on that. Im not sure because my experience, my country, only my country is outside of my country. I can to i can comment, but i think to me, after observing this evictions, i think i understand what, what, what, what, what, what solutions, whats the less than democracy . Whats the last yet positives and how people as they are taking positives here and in africa we think, i think most of the countries should land here and how the practice the, the process of getting lead is, i guess get types before that you got joseph is your 1st time in russia. Yes, it is your 1st time buying. Youve come during much and youre lucky. It was not december or january, february, the weather is not so bad outside. Well, whats your 1st impression of being here . Its my 1st impressing being here. Everything i can say to you guys, you know, your history, you guys, you know, youre leaving your traditions and hell, hes the best what im pleased not to copy anything from anyone to read it. I sions. So thats what type of price to is. I love that joseph, im guy at joining us here or not. You International International election. It was over as well. Its so good to have you here. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you very much. No pleasure. Thank you. All right, well not every country has been chewing up to pass on their congratulations us said the russian poles were neither free nor fair. Of all germany ran to the process, a pseudo election independent us politician than sarah believes. Such accusations only highlights western hypocrisy. I saw an article in the New York Times to denouncing russia for extending the elections to 3 days, which i found quite hypocritical because here in the United States, now we have an election. Hes been, its not 3 days thats weeks on and an accounting is weeks on end. And i found it somewhat humorous that, that he said, having an election period over 3 days made it easier to commit crimes when our election season now extends over many days or even weeks and months. The western main stream media has become simply a Propaganda Machine for war. And let me also express my concern of that. I understand that russia had to stop or successfully intercepted 35 different drone attacks coming from the direction of your brain. I believe even a couple of civilians may have died, angelica rod, so the kind of harassment of the electoral process there i, i think is just out of reach of the western media also by the way has lost many of its listeners, as you may know, until they manage to stop people from being able to access our teeth very well in the west uh cnn these mainstream oregon is hardly any one, even listen to them anymore because they have found them to be so remote from on people themselves, experience or believe using their own judgment, what must be occurring in the world and in their own lives. And i think the election with this. Busy over whelming show of trust and support for pretend indicates the situation in russia, at least in stable. I think thats good because it does. It creates the conditions for this crisis in this situation to be finally ended in a calm and irrational manner. Unfortunately, it doesnt appear right now that there are many people in the west who are prepared to do that. Well, would you like me to shoot you now with a geo political and strategic ex, but how much on the, on whos joining us here on how to international. Great to get you the studio here for this. A continuation of a special coverage of 1st thoughts off the top of your head. What are you doing here . Why are you here . What do you think of the election . Well, i happen to be in the country at a very crucial moment. Uh, excellent uh of expectation from the people here. And then when i landed here, i visited a couple of folding station in last 3 days. And my experience, and this is my 2nd time as an observer, that i have been in any other country. It was and it was because time before as well. So i think the make you let system. Uh, i didnt see any a written letter d m. I hope this is the case. I would say the must course, but, but, and youre being truthful, youre being honest, youre absolutely honest. All right, thats what ive seen. Many of the fitness, many other countries elections and ive seen many irregularities them are. And the perception when i was here was different when i was coming here, i thought that there would be some sorts of like something some, some things or regularities. But i didnt see any. And i had like couple of other friends and colleagues around with me. And we keep discussing this thing that, you know, the system is amazing. We need to replicate that. And we just had an action in back as not like a few months ago. Oh, yeah. And theres been a lot of criticism on that. Let you know, i got so far my experience, it is excellent the way it has been v phosphate and uh, i did not follow the the portal campaigns. But when i was in and visited that out, i think 171819 different building station. Not a single way of it. I see people are pushed to do something. Everybody was coming on their own and they would just sporting well and pray dominantly ask them who do a boarding, and they ordered a cousin to to do. They tell you, yeah, i also suppose to boss these, notice the we have a citation the youre a little bit, you know, always talk about in the merging multi polar world. And the 1st words a congratulations to put in came from the global south. Do you think thats an assign of the changing guard around the globe . I think the, the jew political, the engineering around the word, particularly we have seen russia, china becoming a blog representing global style. And particularly in global site would be over the country. Again, the box, assign bundle the salon cops. So all looking towards the ation side, the this, this emerging block of china, russia, and other like minded countries in many different areas in terms of climate change. What we have seen the leadership of these countries in terms of different events, which is happening in the board. So i think these, the shifting tectonic beds and the geo politics of the word is telling us that, you know, we need stronger lead as well could implement and implement policies which is good for the people. And so this is basically the underlying thing, in my opinion. Yeah. How, how do you think pakistan will react to the, to the election . I mean, its been a turbulent few years in the country and theyve been moving more west to it. Will pakistan supports for, for the next 6 years, i think bucks on and russia had a relationship which existed in the past. We were like one of the few countries in the beginning when fox then came into existence by sheer supported bucks then. But then we became a part of the western block, but for the last 1015 years theres been concerted effort on both sides to normalize the relationship. And we have written is that in like a couple of years ago, the 1st time Prime Minister focused on was it the address here . And since then theres a relationship with just on the upbeat. So in, in my opinion, i think we have part of seo shantay cooperation. Organizational secret actually is that we are going to be part of bricks. Were going to provide a lot of other organizations on which direction box some of this. So i think yes, its going to be an upward trajectory. And coming years in this new government in boxes on for 5 years, and now we have a new president here. It was new and i renewed president. Yeah. And whos in prison these days, mr. Amber on con, where im not talking with him. I know, you know, talking about him, but you know, you talk about democracy, for example, youre on the phone and the amount of the people that popular than any one in fact is still on peace behind bars, right . Now is it now, is it the jet that hes behind boss . Well, you know by cannot speak if its legit, theyre not but there are many cases against him and they are in the court of laws and hes been given ah, theres a, theres verdict against him and did our legal opinions that those were that are not as good as it should have been, but again, its the courts were to say hes too powerful. Hes still popular. Hes still popular. Theres no doubt about those of him on han, much moles, and they loved the as lama by the government. And i think thats a problem for the government the, i mean, now they put this man behind boss, by the way, just just quickly. I mean, they were on con, was very friendly with russia. Now the west doesnt like that. Now what, what about, what about, for example, the i m f b i m f was trying to read, negotiate his loan with his mom about and it was built really, harry became really complicated. It wasnt working. Then china steps in this as a, well help you with a different kind of loan. And in the, in the middle of all of that, iran con, ends up behind bars. And because he just quickly, i mean, i know youre election absorbing here in russia. But how is the democratic process then focused on these those i think, but now that is a new government there that they was election observers and box them as well. Yeah, this government is a coalition government. Its a combination of the 2 political parties, him and by the way, its not only the former Prime Minister, mon com, the gun in time just to show our cheapest also. And he really likes to develop better relationship with that actually as well. But thats the 2nd question to the 1st question was yes, box on as an economic deadline, i am as negotiations are going on, we could not finish the story, the 2nd, the programs that we ever had before. And now the engine 23rd. Uh, but its just like 6000000000. 00. Its a country to a store in 50000000000. 00 at 150000000. 00 population in terms of he comic would be a pretty strong end of the country, but we have had governance issue. So i think if this government is able to implement this 23rd program, we will be out of this to him. And ill be looking towards the eastern blocks, is what were looking towards china. Were looking towards middle eastern countries. So it is a concerted effort in bach assigned to get out of the economic village thatd be a garden us as and last couple of years of age, former Prime Minister assigned was also one of the reasons that he didnt implement the a i am a full gram as it was supposed to be. Yeah. Okay. All right, were gonna leave it there. How many incognito Strategic Affairs expert and was here as an election observer. Thank you so much. Thanks a lot. We appreciate your time. Thank you. Okay, well africa is also closely watching the russian president ial election for more on that. Lets go now live to johannesburg. Were a local journalist. I see mentioned donna is joined by a panel of experts now to a very good morning to you. Welcome to south africas additional view russian president ial elections, which are very interesting to say the least. Yes, im not alone. Im joined by very interesting panelist. So allow me to introduce them one by one. On my far left, im joined by profess set 10 bit who is a founder and director of sil encounters. Thank you so much for joining us. Good morning. I think youre going by one to them. Saw me who is a political commentator. Thank you for your time. Hi. Thanks. I have a doctor for e renewed that. Thank you so much for your time from scholastic. Continuing this party. Good morning. And thanks for the opportunity at last, but not least the amc International Relations and mr. All of it, but tell us thank you so much for your time. The media. Let me start with you. Let me start with you the longest Liberation Movement in africa. Now when you look at the Electrical Systems in russia and how the nixon they have unfolded and then you bring it back to africa and our little systems, what would you say the dynamics and the challenges are the tequisha and africa . Well able to come to the has its own law that governs that evictions and the invite show different a to a left, something unique for them, the big country, by the way, thats a nations takes 3 days to get there. And then then you then go to other countries in africa, but im not as big as of us. Yeah. And the elections can that do or 2, but in the data citizen, they nations hatch to be extended because of the population. But what is important . Its why their losses and able to avoid the following day elections in terms of the priest script of the law. And if that did that case, then was well exec bueller then say apartment or 2 and the and then and then the den see whether they make sense for the offer then. But them thing is by disposition its the freight elections to be for the unfair. Within their moms of the prescriptions of the let me bring and talk to or we can use a for you from the s a c p. When you look at the outcomes there in russia, with the present Vladimir Putin coming back into office, what would you make of what that means, the in full south africa. And so to the ask because relations Going Forward with russia. If this is beginning by congratulating the people that i should fully successfully the, to coordinating, i have moved into money and they just did voters in the last year. And the 1900000 abroad is quite a phenomenal feet. So and also it, it, it looks as if theres going to be a victory full for pieces and putting, so congratulations to him to and to the other contestants. For the participation, for us. One of the important factors that is it isaac items, because also the selections is continued to continuity and caught in terms of the chain, the brakes where they just said an investment, whether it is the development of alternatives, or changing the in, in local cottages and also tentative to that and we are looking forward to the continuation with regards to developing a multi letter of a, a. Yeah, a multiple multiple levels. And then also the continued efforts to transform Multi Lateral organizations is very important for us. Let me bring in miss them. So me and im very excited that we also have someone young in this panel discussion. They have many 1st in russia with these president ial elections. Theyve taken place of a period of 3 days. And its also the 1st time that they had to vote online on an online system, and it comes in technology. So when you look at that particular move by russia to rely on technology, what would you then make up with all africa . Can perhaps learn when it comes to applying those because we are also in the build up to our own elections of called africa. Yes. So what is that, including technology is what russia it represents for me, the modernization of this very important democratic process. So each country has its own ways as time goes of trying to devise their own elections. Whether its, whether youre including technology in that, whether it is i know in the u. S. For example, during the pandemic they did made in pallets, you try to maintain that integrity off that eviction using also just technology. So it divides cuz thats, thats the most important thing of the end eviction that, that there is. Theres global buying in that election. There is a sense of, of integrity and staying as an eviction and the use of technology. I think as time goes, a whole lot of countries are going to start. Uh, you know, deploying more technology and to make uh elections, easier to account to include a whole lot of people because also for the total is very important and elections in terms of legitimizing elections. Yeah. So the use of technology is also that is to try and get more people if people wouldnt be able to stand in line to vote. The able, the other mccain isms to participate in the democratic process of over to, to knock off 73 percent in russia. Which is very, very interesting problem. Let me bring you in and ask me about International Observers and how important that is for evictions. And perhaps what do you think africans make of into an International Observers. Weve had our own situation here in south africa where the official Opposition Party had written to the United States of america. But overall, what do you make of International Observers and the importance in being part of elections . No country is an island offices. We all belong in some took off in space, and district graphic spaces have legitimacy. So we most, for example, south africa. Nice to have if i enough to, well, thats why i russia, they will come to more than 56 countries as opposite of us into the election. Because with the sanctions, thats what these are because assumptions is that going on against russia. Russia needs to have this stuff of the, of us know to say that it was controlled by the states, or which was it because she, for whatever do like to call it, this has to prove that these way fair elections, these with democratic elections invest. Now, when you come to africa, you observe us the times, those who come to observe the notes onto there to, to, to, to mice. Fast. Yeah, thats what led as south dr. It has been one of the opposite of us in, in many, many countries. So secondly, is that via a bet also to see thats not discrepancies between the, the entities. Because most of the time it will find the little code secret society is, will complain that they would treat the elections very. But that happens. Ill tell you of