Are running away from people in their own government who are or torturing raping and killing their own people. So this conflict in, in uh, several of the reasons we are going. Busy for a long time, and we had an election in 2022 for the people in those regions actually said we want to be a part of the ocean. So its, its, it, this has nothing to do with the world. The people when it comes to the most comprehensive coverage of the election, you know that all to you is the face to be with the rock of correspondence, x xbox, on, on the less weight, and give that take over the next few days. So stay tuned for all special coverage. The not is how we are looking this friday. So fall stop by later for any updates coming away. Now though it is. Crosstalk, enjoy the take a fresh look around his life. Kaleidoscopic isnt just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. Fixtures designed to simplify. It will confuse who really wants a better wills, and is it just as a chosen for you. Fractured images, presented as 1st. Can you see through their illusion going underground . Can the, [000 00 00;00] the hello and welcome to cross ok. Were all things are considered. Im theater. Lavelle as the death toll mounts and starvation occurs, the binding administration has made it clear repeatedly that there are no red lines for israel. No red lines means a green light to continue. Genocide, genocide is official washington policy, the cross walk in palestine. Im joined by my guess, lionel and new york is a legal and media analyst and had told we have jo lorio is the editor in chief of consort him news dot com and you know, soccer, we crossed his ill talk a hockey. He is a former deputy head of the office of the you and Human Rights Agency in occupied. Pol us like all right. Certainly cross talk roles and effect. That means you can jump anytime you want. And i always appreciate, let me go to jo 1st here youre, im one of our premier media guys. I see that there is a real it version to the g word in american media. Now granted, ever since october 7th, weve seen more footage on mainstream american media. Nothing like other alternative media. Its very sanitized. What they, they said really uncomfortable bernie sanders. Im really uncomfortable with that were why should they be uncomfortable with that . Thats what it is. I mean, if, if it isnt genocide, what is it . Dont have to be if theyre being honest with themselves, of course, thats what they would call it, but they arent even after the International Court of justice rule that it is plausible. That is just committing genocide. I mean, they have to report that, but in a way that the left a lot of doubt that its really genocide. I mean, you know, it when you see it, this is clear. We had 1st, i shot away of control of news as the editor from using that word for a couple of weeks. And then it became so obvious that we we were using it because that is what it is. And of course, its protecting its cover for us politicians, which as you said in the opening, peter are green lighting this genocide and why are they doing that . Is the big question. Im really not sure, except that theres huge amounts of money that go to american politicians. And theres very little israel actually does for the United States. And its interest. Aside from the aside from the actual driver, if we can call it that, of the american officials to continue their support bite and said the news that is, you cannot attack or offer because 1500000 refugees, they are living out in the open. But thats my red line, but whatever, if they do it, no matter what, im with israel, i mean, its huge. Its absurd. Whats going on. And i have to say his idea of a peer, which theyre starting to build is 1800. 00 foot. Im sorry about mile long cars way is a e will send a gold spent to get them elected because he knows that his own party is opposing his policy on gods, or they want a ceasefire. 70 percent of democrats and the reaching po, want to see strike is losing this election. So he wants to be able to continue to support the agenda. So making it look like hes doing something to help the people of causative. And no one should believe that at all for a moment. Yeah. Dropping maybe made food and bomb simultaneously and get your head around that. So let me go to you and i want to go to towards your expertise, you know occupied palestine. Whats the purpose of human rights and International Law . Now, i mean its the west, the what likes to take credit for inventing it and, and, and shaming other countries into and forcing it what the west now is completely turned its back on it. So whats it worth . Yeah, well, im asking myself the same thing every day. Unfortunately, i kinda wonder what ive committed my entire career to but look, i, i mean, i think whats happening now is like you just said, i mean the double standards of the pocket of the west when it comes to human rights and International Law. In general. This has just been exposed, it is so blatantly so clearly that its just got unacceptable for the populace of not only not only for the populace of pretty much the entire world, but also for a lot of the governments outside of the west. You know, what its, i mean is just the, we just think of the ukraine for example. I mean, if you just read the western mainstream Corporate Media, you know, you get the sense that the entire world is together. You know, theyre lined up together with us against the russians, etc, etc. But when you look at a, your just look at a map of the world of the countries that are really, you know, imposing sanctions on russia. And its very few. It really is only the west and a couple of others. So, you know, its, its, its the same kind of thing. You know, the, the hypocrisy and double standards are just so blatant and so obvious that the, you know, the people of the world are just sick of it. Theyve had enough. And you know, the social media and the other kinds of the video clips and the pictures that weve seen coming from palestine. Vision is expose everything even more. You know, its impossible now for a, for the United States, for the west to hide whats been going on. It really is just, it really is, its an issue its, its a, its a fit. I mean, its a terrible situation, a situation where really the whole, the whole idea of International Law, the whole idea of International Norms that everybody must abide by, are really being put into question. And its, you know, its nobodys fault except the us is and the west. Absolutely right. It, you know, line on the, you know, were more or less on this program the same age. And, but its always been kind of intuitive, but particularly in the west than United States, the israels, and exception. And you know, theres a lot of great explanation for that. Just, you know, they are different. Okay. But they can be when, with the stakes are so high here, like, you know, i was thinking of gentlemen, if i were to use a new term, for example, instead of saying or, well, even just stop in double speak. I it, we, we, we have this new speak which im trying to come up with the word. And as you know, peter on live from the 1st ball, which is here and in the west. But let me explain to you the, the intellectual kata, if you will. Thats done, especially on an supposedly contributive news platforms and works like this. And the guest your, somebody with a conscience or somebody who dares to say the g word. And i said he was follows. Number one, do you recognize from us as a terrorist organization . Here we go to, do you recognize october . The 7th, as adair was that there were 3 does is we dont have the right to defend itself now. And thats it. And with that, no, i mean all i have a break fluid, but you respond with this, excuse me. Do you recognize this or do you believe this particular activity in the part of israel is generous . I wait a minute and then you say, hold it. You just cited the most people, most western folks will cite International Organizations to see how boss is terrorism. This is tara zach you once or this other, the fine. You said however, the i c j said this, the word say theres no that doesnt count. Yeah. So you pay the particular terms, and i will tell you, genocide is the word that many people here in the west. If not all, do not understand. Were not asking you to, to use your own version of what it is. Cattle, cars, holla, cause were, were to, it is a definitional operative word in a convention that is be use as, as apartheid as is that nicole, i mean that as but with lines with line or you can see youre absolutely spot on. Right. But in the words i, the idea of genocide is well known and i, i dont think we can just miss that. But putting israel and genocide in the same sentence. Thats what bothers people, joe, you react about. Okay. Yeah, of course. Of course, good aside is wrong, but go ahead joe, as well the language, the language is very clear in the Genocide Convention i live, ill just refer to that is about destroying in a home or in part thats an important part of this. Oh, you dont have to kill everyone there, even a majority, a part of an actual ethical, racial, religious group and or to make deliberately and so the Group Conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction the whole apart. Its anybody to see that thats whats happening cause and now theyre not watching. Why is it carved out . Because because israel has since its founding in 1948, not only practice slow motion genocide, certainly ethnic cleansing in order to establish the state. But it is had based on the guilt of the holocaust because the west has nothing to stop the whole cause to turn the way ships of jewish refugees. There was a monster might have built their number one. There was an interest in perhaps having of europeans colony and an arab land, although the United States and looking after you already set down with king solid on the ship and in the suez canal and made the deal that them us and sorry, we have a still live under which is oil for the us. Security guarantees, just saudi arabia, so they really need israel as a Aircraft Carrier there. As so many people say theres a few as a gift card. Thats questionable. But certainly israel has gotten away with murder. And now were genocide without really trying, thats exactly what the american leaders ship a degree in congress, but also by and are doing. And its really still a mystery to me. Why, why they couldnt not see, speak out and tell israel to stop despite that needs to pick up the phone. Stop that it would guarantee his election. Most likely, the Democratic Party in voters are going against him. They cant stand what theyre seeing, andrew, said peter, before we started, there, show that you all are humanity is being destroyed here by watching this. It is degrading everyones humanity and democrats to are seeing this. Now they are seeing young people are out on the street. They blocked the road on the way to the capital for that state of the union address. And im quite broad, actually see American People protesting this, they are likely aware of whats going on. Theres some homes that is real, has on the american political leadership, it could only come down to the money that they give it its, its a, its called the, its called corruption. It says peer out now, corruption. So, i mean, another thing that has been revealed and all of this with the assault on guys, the genocide thats being committed is western racism because palestinians just dont rate you know, theyre not worth any victims. And when you put that into the context of a whole woke nonsense in the western world, now everything starts to short circuit. So yeah, i mean look, uh it says theres obviously no question about that. I mean, policy is just dont count palestinian lives, dont count and you know, palestinians have been dehumanized into less through the Corporate Media and through statements of the political lead, you know, over and over and over for decades. Now that you know people just, well, you know, you have a lot of people, thousands of people going out on the streets demonstrating, and thats a really heartening sign. But certainly within the pull the core doors of power in most of the western countries. Its just, you know, sugars and just people just shrugged their shoulders and again, you know, its the double standards. I mean, even if we go back to the whole cost, you know, look, the european powers had been committing genocide in the colonies, you know . Yeah. For, for your donkeys years up till that, i mean the only reason this was like a really big deal was because it took place in your end because the victims sort of looked like us. I mean, at the time, you know, in many countries, jews, jewish people were not looked upon, we thought treated as white people. But so they looked like us and there was a sort of sense of affinity or them being close to us. At least they were closer to us. Then you know, black africans or, or other people. So, you know, thats, thats again, it just goes to show the double standards, you know, again im, im a, im an International Lawyer. Ive spent my entire career in International Law, but you know, we have to remember that International Law has. Its not racist origins, but its always been applied in the races. All. So i have to jump in here gentlemen. I have to go to a hard, straight care, and after that hard break, well continue our discussion of ours, lets say, with our case, the the more expensive. And im going to plan with you, whatever you do. Do not watch my new shells. Seriously. Why watch something thats so different whitelisted opinions that he wont get anywhere else. Welcome to planes or do they have the state department c i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000. 00 corporations. Choose your fax for you. Go ahead. Change and whatever you do. Dont marshall state main street because im probably going to make you uncomfortable. My show is called stretching time, but again, you probably dont wanna watch it because it might just change the waiting thing. The welcome act across software. All things are considered on peter to the bell to remind you were discussing palestine. The okay, lets go back to so the soccer right. Before we go into the break, we were talking about how the west is really revealed. Its a racism towards the world with by not reading palestinians is where the victims continue please. Yes, but well, yes. Well, definitely and you know, i think some of the, you know, some of the other guests were talking about how is real is treated is treated special treated with kid gloves. And it really is amazing to me. Not only how in dc, but also in international for like the when, you know, israel is treated special is its somehow theres this idea that we have to be really careful when were talking about israel. Because the only way were going to get them to do the right thing is if we show them that were not, you know, biased against them, that were not inherently against them. And you know, to treat them with kid gloves. And youll see this with a lot of the statements that some you with agencies have been putting out since october. You know, im not through criticized against that particular person or the like. But it, some of the statements you that you have to go again, you know, treating god whats happening and gods are completely like a humanitarian issue. The talking about, you know, gardens dying gauze and starving to death, cousins, you know. Ready dozens, being dozens being killed. Yes. But without the subject, like you have to. Yeah. Yeah. Pages to the very end. The finally find the word is real but is real, isnt the flick thing . Well it, it, yeah its, its always, its always is. Uh, 10 people died last night and god, so we dont know how they died. We dont know who killed this, is there that theyre never given any kind of agency or description here. It line all. Its just another thing that has happened in spades since october 7th has been throwing around the a word, anti semitism. And it doesnt really, it doesnt land the way it used to. It least the way ive been watching and now people dislike are, are, are struggling that off right now. Well, we had a, um, you, we had a a guess one week who talked about metal fatigue. Uh, as i said, the term is been used for so often for and for so long that its brittle and it doesnt hold anymore in our country. We have races and we have Conspiracy Theory put an apologist. You name it. And remember, one thing, you only get a label if youre what youre saying is correct, you only take flak when youre over the target. Yeah. If you have some spacious id and that has nothing to do with anything, nobody will give you the time of day. But if you hit on an or a, by the way, a gentleman i think i, i love the way that we always talk about language and feel like my favorite term now is red line. I thought red line was red like stop sign red, red line. I think these emphasis like it to alex or something, you mean something else, it doesnt, it doesnt mean what it means. And also we have a lot of people. And again, remember my, you should have on my car around here view from the 1st ball. If i walked with you 2 times square right now, is it, tell me the difference between judaism, jewish is real zionism. Zion is, they will look at you and theyll say, i know theyre connected. And i know that i stay away from that. Its almost like, uh, like a radioactive kryptonite. I just dont go there. And also this past we, we had the Academy Awards. Theyre focusing in on a particular lapel pin or something which dealt with, sees fire or something. And again, even the left, the trays its own by say, there they go again, excuse me, you are they, if they were to Say Something about some transgender appreciation, that will be fine. But all of a sudden, this, this way of thinking is despotic and lunacy. If they were to ever beer from the accepted reason to either stay away from the subject, dont bring it up or be very careful. Less do, especially when by the way, views and is re lease and and are, are, are called anti semitic. Which i think is the greatest of them all in terms of, of, of, of the ac, you know, you know, a, jo, what you know, that the, the powers that be the neo liberal order they, they really liked to pick on the word populace. The populace left populace. Right, well, i throw it right back at them. Theyre the authoritarian populace. You know what you, the line will just described it right there. And that is the poverty of the situation for a lot of us here is because language has been intentionally confusing. Okay. Lionel already mentioned, you is real zionism, jews, okay, z itself, somehow, theyre all kind of, theyre all very different actually. Okay. And then we should be open about it, okay . And, and, and, and proclaim it. And this is what you know. So many people are hesitating to do that. Not yourself, not ourselves here, but there still that, that fear, but by, its like a start with my question. The, the, the term anti semitism doesnt land the way it used to do, particularly when youre talking to american jews, European Jews that are against this genocide. Joe. Now thats the most extraordinary thing. Maybe about this entire event that were going through is that its no longer tab moved to save the kinds of things you used to say. And i think more and more people understanding that theres a huge difference trained judaism and zionism. You dont have to be a jew to be as im as draw buying a said themselves, but rich occasions. What does that tell you . Resign ism is a secular political movement. Its nothing to do big at the old junk is that the designs are a think us, we think god gave them the promise land. So theyre using judaism in that way, but theyre not going by the values of judaism and many jews are saying that now i i, if theres a Silver Lining in any others, its that its no longer a tab o to criticize with israels doing more and more people in the west are seeing that now im up here in south yorkshire, the good because of the collaboration of the miners strike a 40 years ago in art. The scarborough, the head of the mine is really gave a speech and he started with a 5 minute a track on israel for being genocidal and fascist and supporting the gardens. And these miners were on the bus all the live since 40 years square standing and sharing the people advert working people understand whats going on now. And israel cant hide behind that anymore. And i think politicians are going to start losing elections because of their support for jennifer. Theyre complicity with genocide. There are officials like lloyd austin going into a congressional hearing and put co pink. Is there him a judge side attack . This is extraordinary. Seems that were seeing here, they, if they have any conscience left, any of these west and lead, they know that what theyre doing is the worst thing theyve ever done in their lives. Yes, i got a politically filled and yet they wont move. They wont stop it by the pit stop order from one way or another for millions of people. Genocide is on the ballot. If they like it or not, its there. Thats just, you know, thats, thats a game changer. Okay, thats a people will not participate. So what is another thing, you know, its already been mentioned a little bit here, but you know zionism is a nationalist, its s no nationalism, its f, no. Okay. I thought i thought the west didnt like that. I wasnt the, isnt f know nationalism wrong, co. It does it, its not wrong if its a new crane or israel. Okay. We got our, we got our ducks lined up here. Go ahead. So yeah, well like you say, i mean its just a double standards once again. I think good, jo, that joke that you were thinking of it was that 70 percent of this really is dont believe in god, but you know, they do believe that god promised them palestine, but yeah, i mean the, it, it is. Thats what is real is its an f no credit project. Its a similar colonial project. But that is based on janice. The entire goal has always been from the get go, the stealing of palestinian what and the driving of the palestinians out from that land and, and you know, the colonization of that land. That is all thats always been very, very clear and stated very clearly by the by design is from the very early days to the current is really government, you know, at the time, late 19th century, this wasnt like dirty work. These werent dirty words, you know, colonization and i like that. And so they were as no racial though they were aspirational words. Yes, exactly. And they had no compunctions about sort of, you know, treating the, you know, describing the palestinians is basically savages that should be, that would be grateful for western civilization. And if they werent, well, we just, you know, we killed them all, or we just try them out. That was the whole idea. So, you know, this is all really connected with western imperialism. And thats why, like you say, its not a bad thing. Its a bad thing if these really is do it, or if, if the gradient zuckerman or if our allies do it, you know, then its perfectly fine. Yeah. Line or how is it in, in your environs . How is the Jewish Community responding to all of this . Here to talk about the divisions, talk about what the discourse and i, i certainly cant speak for them. But there is a, there is a kind of a kind of a tacit agreement without going too much into the specifics. If that makes any sense, you know, peter, whatever you want, i speak, we always go back to our generation and im going to throw a, a, were a name out for you that maybe were doing what you might know. She Little Feather. Now, during the Academy Awards one year way marlon, brando, i remember i remember. Yeah, she, right, them are also Vanessa Redgrave and we spoke about zion is all right, but she little further was this by the way, towards out later she might not have been a native american by the way, she showed up and she accepted or refused to be accepted because of the treatment of the native americans or the indians. And the hollywood was very sensitive. They didnt do anything, but they said, you know, youre right the way we portray native americans and they really cared about it. Okay. Jump to today. If so, she and Little Feather had come out if she had the wrong lapel button button. So basically the same thing and dont forget we are the only country in the world that came here and thought that we discovered a country that was already inhabited. Other people, this is the era goods. So we, we are very, very topical we, we love, were very savage with our sensibilities. We recognise you, this is terrible. But when it comes to this particular thing, let me just give you this very simple statement. The middle east in particular, and this is real, a palace and youre something that americans dont understand. They are in a fight for their lives. And we just had best kind of stay out, support them and go on with their other things because they know best and was just we have an election coming up and nothing to see here. Children move on like yeah, but the problem, but the problem leveling key. Yes. The oh and a missed a little further. She didnt. She ended up in playboy magazine. I dont we member the issue, but i do. Im not even to use. I still remember. Okay. Joe, its good that we talk about genocide make people feel on comfortable about the word. And thats how and thats why im very forceful in using and youve got to react. You cannot be in different joe. You know, you cant, this is a referendum on who you are, a human being basically how you see this event let alone the politicians. You know, theyre about native americans. I mean, its a perfect peril or whats going on in palestine right now. Its been going on since the 19 thirtys, but certainly since 1948, the gradual destruction of a people in the stealing of the land is exactly what happened in the United States. There were people already living there, even if, even if its rarely said there was no one there that was a thriving culture there. And this parallel is perfect to understand, which is probably why american leaders who brought acknowledge was a genocide of native americans are supporting this genocide is a true genocide. And the 2 countries that are participating maam, are joining together in a way that again, i dont fully understand why, but theyre going to pay a price as theyre continuously seeing that this, that they are supporters of clearly a genocide i expect i c j will eventually will that this was a genocide, but it will be too late, of course, because it will be done, but im going to be of the statements have been made about the possibility of it that sticks and that his historical gentleman, weve run out of time on a think my guess in new york had till the end and or soccer. And i want to thank our viewers for watching the csr t. See you next time. 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