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Times for the full days and unfortunately i had no other choice. Could i get turned of the hospital . Obviously not because we had been besieged for 15 days because he had lied to to am, must go time money is he just got on the bike with a no the look in just on the and i was time the hello i manila chan you are tuned into modus operandi. They are a threat to democracy. Therefore, right terrorist event. Weve heard those troops before here in the west regarding donald trump mega movement. But now thats being argued in germany, referring to the rising a f d party. And thats what well dig into today, just who is this new Political Party and what are they all about . All right, lets get into the m o. The. Its no surprise that the election of donald trump in 2016 gave way to the rise of nationalism and populism here in the us and brought from the shadows a similar sentiment that had long been brewing in europe as well, long before trump presidency, the breakfast and movement in the u. K was slapped with similar accusations of White Nationalism around the same time over in germany. A country desperate to forget its historical sins and the rise of Adolph Hitler in the mid 20 tends. Once fringy Political Group is now threatening to become the most Popular Party across the us, most prosperous country, the f. D party, short for alternative for germany. But the meaning deutschland, which means germany, of course, is the one leading in the polls. And at least 3 states are regions and nipping at the hills for 1st place across many more. Now joining us from germany to explain the political situation, there is doctor, i go home, or he is an economist, and the publisher of workshop act, well, a business publication out there in germany, you can learn more about dr. Hummer and his work at homer brief dot d e. So dr. Hummer in this new year, germany has witnessed a massive polarization of society. The massive rise of the f d and, and recently, new big anti a f, the pro tests and all across major cities. Some of describe these anti sd protests as a result of this Massive Propaganda Campaign by those in power right now. Who feel threatened by this new party if the polling 2nd nationally and 1st in several former east germany areas. Talk to us about these new anti a f t protests and whos behind them of what, what the 10 say. And what we have proved is that people are hired and paid for attending these protests. In hamburg, we have proof that in the universities they paid students 60 years per day for attending these protests. And what attends do is they, on the saw with the science that they want to destroy the system and so on. And the Credit Unions are mobilizing their people, so we have and schools teachers are pulling this school kids to these protests. So this is not something where people go on street because they are so content with the government. The opposite side is the case. These are some propaganda read prove, ive done the things that we only know from east germany before. 1989. And this is scary because its a 1st time that we in the west seats and 70 years, see that the government organize us um the smartest and even more or less force as far pays people to attend the smartest. But it has nothing to do with the width of being in favor off of the government. For example, the, on the far was complaining that, um, the people from the christian democratic party, which is the expanded the government, as you would say, its a profile my, a position. And that they were attempting these protests. So they said we have nothing he come on with these people and we dont want them there. So this is getting ridiculous. Whats, whats going on there. The people have an approval rate of the government of maybe 10 percent. I would say not more because we have more than half of the population in germany. It does not find any party, the value, both of them what they would elect and the rest we the government, not of the the, the re, uh government is now getting may be at best uh close to 30 percent, which is in total then not even 15 percent in total, so the approval rate of the of this government has never be worse than it is. And its quite scary that such a government were such a low approval rate or high rate of disapproval. Either people can, can rule in a democracy and this is what more and more people are getting. Now they are doing not good. The government is not acting in their behalf, as they say, this is why this is the business getting worse and worse. But these protests against is, is mandy managed by the government. And another thing is very important. We have still these protests from the timers, the huge approaches everywhere. Now, 100 thousands of farmers on the street now for, for weeks already. And the media managed with this help of this propaganda cool from the government to re silence these farmers because it was overlay by these protest organized and paid by the government on tex, passed the house. And this is really scary. Whats going on here . Hold on to that thought we will absolutely address these farmers complaints as well. I mean, well discuss that in just a moment. But 1st i want to hit on the chancellors recent remarks. Chancellor, all off schultz and foreign minister, angelina bare bach, other senior mainstream political figures have attended these protests. The chancellor in his weekly video broadcast, he said this quote, the nazi race ideology could never again have space in germany. Thats alluding to a f d being attended to the nazi party and have labeled, labeled them far right extremis. Listen here. And id like to say clearly and bluntly, i think for this right, we extreme is our attacking our democracy to them. They want to destroy all cohesion by my go ahead and confirm that a secret conference. These extreme is discussed how they could expel millions of people from our country on pipe there. Youve told me before that ironically a f. D actually has more jews among their ranks than any other party, but the media outlet thats called corrective published and investigative report cleaning that the party have discussed Something Like a mass deportation of what they called unassimilated citizens during this Party Meeting and potsdam. Now after the report was published, some have compared that story to how nazis plodded in potsdam to deport European Jews to mount a gas scar in 1942. So how do we make sense of the chancellors rhetoric and all of this to the chancellor and his crew is more and more and more openly like they have no problem with like this so called meeting was mainly attended by a christian democratic politicians as more then f equalization there was a ruler. Righty. And it has never been talked about these different stations. So this is a full grown light. Correct if its a very doubtful organization in germany, its a, its an antique um and like, uh like it, like a lot of media terrace organizations from the key fob paid by the German Government parking too. Because the bodies are now ministers from degrees in the bombings. And this has nothing to do with the neutral or with media was journalist. This is, this is just uh, a tool of the political welfare in germany. So correct. It is really doubtful and nobody can know and nobody can really rely on on data from them. And it shows that what they said and what they, what they pronounce was a full goal, like they, uh, tried to, um, to seek out very tacitly that it could be, it might be, it should be whatever but um, but what they got out was the intention of put a somehow the blame of nurses to the f d. But then when you dig into these programs, you dont really find anything office. Youll find the, the old agend us from the christian democrats and from the socialist state party from where, when, how, which make or still jobs law, which i know the agenda from the f d. So this is heidi. I can hardly find anything off of nurses in the office not see provo sunday the the office like the nazis was socialist. And what do we have now, with the greens and with the se, and with the socialist party, they are socialized, but they are not so much national law nationally or engage with them or internationally or a date its thats, its a, its a big difference between those but and what i have heard is, from our government is more than embarrassing. Concerning the comments on these, on this propaganda face, they just, what day is even even more scary is that the they think that people are so dumb and they dont get up to. I doubt it because now we have many discussions in the free media that puts out the real data. And what code co incidence, the u. German was the last on the line mx with those people in the organize us with solar cells and beyond us. In hamburg, to discuss how to, how to really get to a sense of ship and job and the full blown even though it is not legal. Even though these a free media does not the legal nothing wrong, nothing just to, to push their take use of their, their lies into the open media. And she only had a minute at the douglas meeting that basis for nowadays, and her maid agenda for the next phase as his protests and how it was managed, shows us a little bit how they want to do it in the future. Now. Now, as you mentioned, there have been efforts underway to outright ban a f d as a party in german politics. But this effort is, is really facing some legal hurdles. However, the party is being investigated, some se, surveilled by the shots government on suspicion of what they say is extremism. The critics of schultz and his Traffic Light Coalition are comparing this to the stars the while even more are comparing this to how the Us Government are treating Donald Trumps magazine orders. How would you compare maga and a half deep and how each respective government is treating these political movements . Well, i dont see a 2 close connection between those 2. But what can be set for sure is that our process of shots, as it is called, is acting nowadays more or less like this does the before, because its a political lets organization in the political war. And they are, and thats a government entity, a secret Service Government entity is organized against a political opponent, is something we havent seen for over 80 years in germany, which is super scary. And we know from east germany and from the russian from russia. So from the soviets, how this to an end. And um, we have proof that in the former days of the, these, the secret service was the main. Um, the main like uh the, the majority of the functionaries, a party that has the forbidden years ago, which was a sofa, nationalist, nationalistic, nazi party. That has being run mainly by the government, by the secret service. And this was the problem why they couldnt forbid this party in the 1st place because the car said, well its your secret sermons are sitting in the park and the majority of the bark they can do whatever they like. They can. Um they could change the course. So what we have to face this and this party was made to put this narrative of germans on nazis out and to, to connect these. And with i see they have nothing because the i d is, is more on the, on the constitution. Then all the other parties, the a, a, b, is for free speech. The other part is one sense to ship the f d. S. For sticking to the, to the, to the problem is what every, the administer, every College Student has to do that hes acting in favor of the john population. They want this, the back, the, the governmental parties dont want this openly hardly opened. We dont want this. So we have, it is for 499 percent. Sure that the any court would deny any restrictions against the sd. So this is just a political fight. It is due to discredit them openly by discussing oh, how can we, how can we forbid them . They are, they are right, we and so on. But nothing is true. Whenever people were asked, please tell me a specific, what do me specifically the where are they right . We, they cannot tell anything. All the answers are or nothing. They, they dont come up with anything. So this is just propaganda. What they, what they do, because they use control. And this is the main topic where we are facing the politicians at the minute. They know that with the agenda that the leaders of the party have um, have pushed through and what, what day one of the parties to do is not in favor of the german people or the european people. And the people of knowledge that already they know what they, they got offered. And so they denied they, they refuse these politicians. They fear to lose control. And when they lose control, they have to confess their bodies in the us or in those other for an entities. But they cannot keep the list on, on the germs that they cannot rule them anymore. So it is very probably that they use that job, that they are exchanged and this is what these politicians dont want. And at the minute they are really scary because so they probably have lost the majority of the people. And the main thing where really started was when people saw how easy those governmental entities, abandoned all the Constitutional Rights for legitimate people by the so called corona measurements they and took the people were put in uh at home jail at home. People were not allowed to go somewhere. People had no rights of age, of both that person informations. They had to openly confess who they are. I say amex and ages and so on. And people dont forget that quick. I mean people forget yes, but not that quick. And that people have seen that this is very, very a like the beginning of the song and revolution. Where at the end of the day, the coming is still over 577000000 russians and business the pathway. There is a very, very similar at the minutes and this is very scary and people have heard from the history and so far that they say this is what we dont want and put additions on all scares that they cannot keep on with that jetta now to indeed, it does sound like the the ruling parties have lost a lot of popularity across most of germany. All right, hold on 11 second. Coming up next. Germanys very own ursula of underlay in the face of the you will soon be out of a job. Her term as European Commission president coming to an end soon, but the fates of many German Farmers and workers may not be as good as bonder lands jobs prospects. Well discuss it when we return with economist go home or sit tight. M o will be right back the the the, what is a part of it that the employee would post that isnt the, the place you of us and that in the word or is it something deeper, more complex might be present . Good. Lets stop without please. Is that spelled out of of the welcome back to the ammo. Im manila chant, dr. Hummer, economist and publisher of workshop as well is back with us. Thank you for sticking around ica. Now lets talk a little bit about the german economy. I mean, your expertise is economics, tell us a bit more about the state of germanys economy. I mean, how this relates to the f, these popularity or, or perhaps their rise, and these new massive farmers protests that began just after the new year. How does all of this tie into one another, or is it related . Is it related at all . Well, what we can look, you can say by fewer as the most, at different nurse regards to the politics from the n. S a summer task politics. You will hear the c, e o s from international conglomerate, such as events and so on. Well do the opposite side because they are closer to the, to the government because of subsidies they get then to um, to the economy and to the rest of the economy. Economy is made in germany by the millions of the temper nurse and the like small businesses, a small and medium sized businesses. And they have base a totally different uh, sorry they have the most regulated environments ever. So for example, to, to turn some greenland into some, uh, some uh, some industrial land takes um, in a case i know personally 20 years over 20 years to turn a green glass into an industrial and just to produce something. And there is nothing built. Yes. So the same time in china, they built from us 40000. 00 inhabitants. Village one do have 40000000 in the city in the same time where its in debt in germany because of the regulations. Nothing has happened. Yes. And this is a, this is struggling. The people, this is striving the into progress. They have no science but to continue working because uh, what should they do . Otherwise they have not that they fall into nothing. Its not that they are covered in like a, like oh the guess the government advice. So these people recognize that the thinks im not, not doing that the government is not acting in their favor. And then this ridiculous um, so called energy turn to a so called greet and a g is um, it turns out to be a hoax. Church, ill not to work like, nothing works like these politicians do. I mean, what do you expect from people who are, who have no education, we have never worked in a re a job. We have never who never had to, to work honestly to, to make their living. They were always living on tex, passed the house and, and they didnt even finish school sometimes south the politicians didnt even finish school or never had any education at the university or as a, as an honest, um, crap man or whatever. So these people are, um, the, these people are so like, um, driven by the ideology that they dont care. What of the inter printers have to close down and we have never seen so many close dogs in the last uh, 56 years then now. And people are seeing that the energy costs have skyrocketed. They have international disadvantages that they can compete with. Most of the competitors internationally because government driven costs so high that they have no chance and on top now it is said that people dont get any any stock because the government pays people for not doing anything more than they can earn as a mediums and medium pay jobs in germany and this is, this is just a way that doesnt work out. And on top now we have, uh we have the farmers that, um, that are struggling to survive because they, they, uh they, or they charge them with an additional 11000000000. 00 off of texas or above expenses, which is in total not much spot for the pharmacy its, its huge. And on the same time, they spent 10 times the amount for nonsense internationally for the bicycle waste in somewhere in south america for jen the stuff somewhere in africa. And nobody wants that for, for weapons to some war somewhere. So this is the people i really fed up with what they are doing in, in dublin and business, and all the situations the economy is strongly and were facing to a co op soft economy. And that means that the enter, your project will follow the task because europe is nothing else, but theyre sucking out plot against germany. Its only to plunder germany. Thats why the u. P. Union was founded and thats as their main purpose, but germany wont give too much to plunder any more. The economy here struggling and why more people are closing down and set up closing their businesses because they are, they have reached an age and bravo say we close down then get going through this heavy stuff that the, the government are putting on us to dr. Ica hummer economist and publisher of workshop up to well, thank you so much for your time. I gotta leave it right there. Make sure you check out his work at hammer brief dot d e. Thank you very much. All right, that is going to do it for this episode of modus operandi, to show that dig deep into Foreign Policy and current affairs. Im your host window a chance. Thank you for tuning in. Well see you again next time and figure out the m. O. The of the, by the early 1950. Can you became one of the centers of resistance to colonialism. East africa. The british invaders infringed on the most basic rights of the local population. Great britain pursued the policy of squeezing out the local population from their indigenous lands. The best airable areas were given to white farmers, dooming canyon step father de and hunger. This caused the sharp protest of the peasants and less to the emerging of the mile mile movement, which started the fight against the invaders. The rebels called themselves kenya, land, and freedom army disappeared. The leader of the movement would be anti colonial. Active as jo mo kenyata, the Freedom Fighters used guerrilla tactics and attacked the individual units of the british troops. The latter responded with massive air raids and artillery effects. When suppressing the uprise of london relied on the maximum cruelty over 50000. 00 canyons were killed. About 300000 people were thrown into prisons and concentration camps, where george here in no way inferior in girl z to the nazis, was widely practiced. The veracity of the colonial list only led to temporary success. In 1963, the British Empire had to recognize the independence of gain. Yeah. However, the colonial regime left behind a trail of blood and wounds that canyon nation has not recovered from on sale. Now, the because of 800000000 people dont have aspirations, it doesnt make a difference. How big the other 400, because the divide wouldnt be Strong Enough if you want to standing ovations. You need to have gone some positive of room is that youve been going between the 2 of i said, but why dont we lift a 1000000 people out of poverty every 6 to 7 here. Hello and welcome am of them to in the ever evolving landscape of the 21st century. The focus no more than ever is on india. Tonight im joined by an amazing but you know the mind is an under but on a per user altered investor and then focused well come bonnie screw it up. Oh thank you very much for having me here. Wonderful for you to come. Thank you so much. Ive only had inspirational conversations with you every time youve spoken. So im looking forward to this one to is vision comes from you. Who are you in the ultimate onto brenda. You have been given the state to how youre doing this is that ultimate sounds a little bit like its got a sunset, but i think maybe a lot of the original ones. I would say, i think i started up at a time when im going to, she was not looked at. Yeah. So proudly, so to speak, 3 things. I mean most people said a chest that you couldnt get a job. So you have to start working for yourself. Second, there was no such thing as funding in your funding giving this everyone talks about it right now is just not that you couldnt even get a bank drawn. And i think the 3rd one was policy parents. Um, so after the 3 months of shock of them saying, i want to do something in my own. It is my dad was a profession. My brother studies did a ph. D. And has always been a profession. I was the outlander in the family and i think my dad gave me some incredible advice that very 1st time he said look, if youre finally doing this, be clear. If anything goes wrong, were not going to be able to help you. What is your feeling that im doing . What . So i said, i dont think i can implement somebody elses vision and therefore im being an optimal. Now, that stage when i wanted to do something, it wasnt clear media and it didnt even seem a little later on. And at that time nobody call it even media and interest. And then what time was this . What it was, this was in the 1980s. It is so, and i think that one sentence was saying we wouldnt be able to bail you out to get my feet on the ground for the next 40 years of my life. So did you speak to your dad about saying that that one to be a businessman or what was the exact . If you remember what . Because that word is very key word which your father said, look, we will not be able to help you with it. He was vacant for me to do my job at accountancy. Be negotiating about an m b a. Mm hm. And i said, i want to do something completely on my own. So he said, okay, why dont you do a job for die . What do i see . It do it, im either one of these to as a stop gap it and when and that do whatever you want to do. And i said if i have a plan being live landing never works. I think today most people have that in general. Let me give it a try, you know, and i think that is the 1st recipe for failure. Because if you give anything a try, means you have a finite time line and failure comes 1st, success comes only after that. I completely agree with you load up the ion and that things cool. A lot of students who come and visit dhl office make whats new. Uh, if this does not work, i will have this the moment to have that choice, not available. Please. Let me remind you of your failure now in the early stages of your life and it had mean it and my life. We did a show together, it was a and couldnt be short of it. You had done it for a little. That was something reason. Never got picked up and i just finished side on. And i was very happy and i was a, a get and well, we will not matter. And we shot this thing in the studio. And i remember you were coming and youre saying this is what we have done and weve worked very hard and i think that must be the only failure in life. And if im, i think my failure to successively shows out a fairly as to to success is im actually quite happy and im proud of it. If my 8 seniors were not there, my 2 successors wouldnt have been the next one. Yeah. So i think that would be one of the ones that we almost say at this point in time. I was happy that didnt happen because after that you never worked with me. No, no, no we did. We did some Work Together in directly. Yeah. I think that it, you know, and then when we were a wedding this day, which is still a treasure trove and its quotes, the ones that caused that was, that was outside of the gummy, did you have you started this, this cable tv team . How did that come across . I think when youre young, youre looking at opportunities. You dont. So the end of the day and opportunities are the ones that i think mostly opportunities in my early stage to end up with the latest date. I dont want to be philosophical about that needs to be there as a result. No, im, im a very practical bus and my wife is much more philosophically. My daughter is much more for the stuff, but im a much more practical person. So for me, so the end of it is to put yourself constantly in as many places so that at some stage youd be the right place the right time, because you need to be in the right place, right . Then 3 or 4 times in your life. To really break out, but for that you need to walk incredibly, have to be in places so that you can be in the right place and thank them and to me, so the end of the day is that the other products that anybody is timing . I think we be, we miss out the importance of the timing and how getting your timing right to what you want to do. Both sometimes signal and just saying yes, actually more to signal. And then what you say yes and life about. And i think if i look at those and look back to my cable tv, those were opportunistic days and there was only one channel called the session. That particular time in india as a nation and the rest of the network. And the fact that one wanted to do a choice for the 2nd one, and i think those are the incredible learning is because as a business, everyone thought i was mad, which is a good recipe to know that you might succeed. But at the mob, ive also, and i think youll come from the same industry, but if you want a standing ovation, you need to have gone to multiple rooms where youve been bored. Maybe even have told you this one, the name of your crazy. And then youre gonna put us in track and likely we started by getting an applause. Your chances are how do you are going to go applause or do integrate out noun, the number of the physical dogs that have been slammed onto me document incredibly lessons and at the end of 3 or 4 or 5 months, all night. The people that was working with said, maybe this is not a good idea, but as of a one year, we couldnt get a Single Person to take a cable tv connection. Now in todays age that sounds completely there, but at that time, and i think that gave me an incredible amount of residence. This wisdom was always there. Are you what was thats a risk factor that you were ready to take and sort of planned into various things i would say myself conviction. So i, i think youre out of this whole set of conviction come from where did it come from . I think it has to come from you. I definitely not. Youre not born with that. Ive come from the middle, the middle class background, that whole psyche for me was very down to a theres but i would say that conviction that says im in it. Im all in, i think him for my very early days and then it much was the come some things that i think i may have done and buying in ritual before its time. It takes very, takes a lot of cottage to actually admit that its before its time and letting it go. So i think the things that ive let go, but do they mean feel is, are before its time and its learning have taught me. And that strengthens yourself conviction because we say god got everything goes with god. God, theres not about waking up in the morning and having a bright audience i would go with that gap actually is a, its exactly like youve got its a bother process. Its like every day its accumulating expedients, videos, execution slabs slammed everything and youre Getting Better every day from cable tv, you establish this and buy. Ive got a new tv, 2 of my best friends, but at least by you, close the most law and witnessed it. Yep. And then you reach the point when you said i let go your tv and i will send it to disney. Did you get bored with this . All you reach the saturation point or was it the business dean . No. So i mean, thats a great question that i would say neither of the 3. I dont think id be never bored with anything in life. I dont think theres a combination. I dont think youll plan exists in life. So i think from where i stood, what i did a lead is when nobody could define what you were doing at that stage, media and ended them getting involved would, wouldnt be starting that it was a production production, the vision that one had to build a company that was non, just a creative house, but was a media economic good. And i think i had an accident partner and disney and for 6 and 7 years weve worked together 3 members of the people who are on my board for the longest period time. So when they pop the question that says, why dont we put it all together . I guess that was a practical list, so i wasnt bored, it wasnt a business deal for me. I was just being product. So do you have grid words to describe yourself . Yeah, i think practical makes some sense because of december. Yeah. That stage i felt if i built this brand, what better can i do then give it to an incredible brand like disney, its target people who are practical or not emotional . No, in fact i would say im a very passionate bus and i think that is a huge gap. Even though it sounds like a slave, a think passionate and being emotional. I think it was extremely passionate about media. It was extremely passion about the company. I believe, but i was not emotional about it. So what is the difference between the 2 . They most of them i would have never let him go, because then i would have felt like no, this is mine. And i think youve seen today in businesses most found those entrepreneurs industrialism and theyve not allowed themselves to let them go. Actually the companies have gone down the drain and then you follow me just another company. And so i think that was a great cross road for me if im somebody who feels going into a 2nd leanings is quite different from going to a 2nd at me. I think both of us come from the time transforms to understand what that means. But a 2nd act means you do what you did, and then you now do it all over again. But a def 2nd endings is when you let that go and then you start all over again all over again. So i think it was an excellent cross for a lot of people told me that i can do this again. Lot of even when i started doing other things, they said they but youre not calling the id be out of such a great experience here working together. How come you not calling me to come and join you . And im saying we had a great experience. Now i want to learn something completely new and i want to do something you. If you sit together i wont grow, you one girl will complete on each other sentences like we used to do before. Right . And i think thats right today when people in the Work Environment always feed. Ive had great experience. Lets work with the same people. Again, i would only say challenge yourself a little bit more otherwise, nobodys going to challenge you. What happens to this phase people . It keeps saying that you would have the right place and the right time, i think you had a product of the choices that you make. And i think for all of us, thats what it is. Timing actually is not a god gives many a stroke of luck. Actually the timing is improving all gut feeling every day. And i think thats what it would be because actually at the time you are making decisions. Mm hm. Most people are going with that. I remember when i was exiting this i vendor and met everyone and they said, youre letting you letting us out of down your name, the company down here in the Media Industry down. Why are you doing this kind of situation . 5 years, nato and other logic Companies Like flip god and all you can see exists that i existed is become a big good at that time in 2012 is a bad word. Like in 19 eighties, entrepreneur, it was a bad wood cutting. So i think ive been to the side goes enough to know. Yeah, that you need to be quite physically and what is important when you did this building you tv . Did you look at the fashion side of it, or did you look at the money side of it . What was in your mind when you decided that i started my career, teddys with 37500 rupees, which is the maximum that my parents could afford to give me in that stage. So to me it was always what am i going to lose . Now, it is true that as you involve to have more to lose. And so i dont think today i can say im leading back on the 37000 assignments or whatever im going to lose because theres a lot more responsibility. Weve created a not for profit. I have a lot more accountability, different senses. But at that stage, i think money is not the driving force. That doesnt mean it can be only passion, because if its only passion you wouldnt make bad projects and projects dont equal to commerce. So i would say the call most of it, the commotion to the bottom. It is something that i was ingrained from the one because i knew that i could not have a v costs to anyone building out because i knew i couldnt raise any money. I think today i sense of when we started something the sense of entitlement is very high. If you start with the low entitlement, actually things work out much better in the long run. It takes a little longer, but its a Rock Solid Foundation is solid. Its like saying im building something and im going to set it in 4 years. It could never work. Its a little bit like ive tried for 2 years. Lets see if theres a, lets, the approach is not going to work. If you think you have a planned approach that you have a goal posts that i will sit for margarita on the beach by this age. Its not going to work because youve gone time. Any part of successful field . Yeah, india is at this stage where its great for on devices are individuals, families, and this governments making india. Is it successful in feelings and things like that . What, what are your thoughts and im very excited about. Im reading some of the everything to do with in depth today. I think my motto is were one of the very few countries today. What if you lost 9 out of 10 people . Will you or tomorrow be better than your yesterday . That on . So it would be a yes. And to me that defines everything that the stand for. So its the right time for anything units we want to do. But it needs to be generalized. You 40 a with the right time connection to become the wrong time, because yes, in the ninetys, me with the guy go, we with a line, we were all kinds of things, but it didnt get chapter lives. So bright ideas and dried vision is important, but execution is 10 times more important, but im also excited about that because i think there is implementation that is accountability. The red arctic even today with the government is one of execution and accountability. So if you build that into your d n e, then goes into the entire because whether you like it or not, the government is 25 percent of everything that everyone does an ecosystem, the jobs that they create and everything else. So really exciting times and im excited that all of us know that tomorrow is going to be better than yes. I always say that im 8 is younger than my country 40. So in india i was born and i was born in 1955. So weve grown up together now and youll see, and we have seen that the other 5th largest economy book has changed the earlier and now why are we considered to be a video reckoning for thing . There was always that role energy, and i think the generalization of it has been really acute the accountability of it has been acute. I think up positioning in a Global Platform is equally important, right . Because positioning perception, like anything else, and we have bought from the Media Industry where we know positioning and perception is half the half they have the approach to whatever does. So i think the perception management, the way i didnt get stands, theres been a very strong it actually is internally because it makes you gain confidence in yourself because now youre saying it and its very strong. But theres good the endorsement from the outside plus the fact that that, that, that got to me of the ruling, the, even there, you aspiration levels and ruling they have changed. And if you us, and i worked there with that foundation because of 800000000 people dont have aspirations, it doesnt make a difference. How big the other 400. 00, because the divide wouldnt be stronger. I think that divide is nattering to quite an extent. Anyone feels i can make a difference in the country if anyone and everyone feels i can make a difference. When the right place the Organization Works a lot and the router lady as if you have made up in that every year, you will educate a certain amount of yeah, it was one of my more expensive days statements. Yeah. So, so this came after that when we saw this, we made very yeah it was. Comes in, lights is about so 90 mean. Yeah. Yeah. So we have a foundation. I know a lot of people say for lunch if you need to start when youre got gray hair and youve got a bank balance and i think one started the foundation when i was in my twenties. Yes. And i think i would always everyone today the giving back in a country like india is including bought it. But when we divested your tv to disney is very nice out on the balcony. And my wife, she said, um, im going to do it then they cost with each for it. And yeah, and i said, thats great. She came back and said, im joining teach for nat, said none of but wait a minute. We have this isnt the foundation of our assumptions. Yeah. But this just sounds like a good thing. So between the 2 of i said, why dont we lift a 1000000 people out of poverty every 6 to 7 years and she said, are you serious . I said, yeah, im serious today, i think thats one of my most expensive retention statements i made for retaining somebody to be bought right of it. So the model to be created workspace, which is what we call it, that particular stage because it was 6 students that came from columbia university. And were going to have villages. And the conversation was on our end and both. And i looked at each other and said, this is exactly like the movie, and i think thats the buffering medium. I mean, movies is a drop box for medium. I think i run, they buy something when, when did that, that transformed, you know, opened up a case and had a very inspiration, i think so this today to today and people come back and tell me i came back because i saw the movie stories and i think a lot of people join the army and the, you know, because we mean, look, show or be made that much of the to that. So for us, for this foundation is spot of bringing that router up and divide. We just felt that actually what i saw there was if we can change aspiration levels in orlando, it will make an incredible difference. And i think you want to play a button that your daughter today. She also has a hold on foundation. How did, how do idea about having a separate foundations you could have up with so they should, but she chose Something Different and i think shes good that she chose it on her own. So yeah, lighthouse budget for as a very stand alone. I think she, she did a film school in a mazda from us, the university of southern california. Yeah. Came back and did 100 years of and didnt sit in my documentary with the doctors you and progression made on jacob go for the right. And then she came to me and said, im done with this. I think her being and not for profit space like big brothers, big sisters in the us. Its a big move. And so in that same here, the mentor meant the program. So her car was, how do i get privileged with the underprivileged and thats been how it got of how shes designed, what shes doing. And this is government regulation of started up culture and initiative and policy to start to visit enough in the think its a no, it has to have all of that can be you can drive or the entire book on one single day. And the book has to be that chapter by chapter if you read a whole book and one thing i challenge anyone to them, i got to remember what 3 things that came up. And this is a fiction movie. So i think its a, its an evolving process. You know, theres ease of doing business, theres aspiration, theres ability to be able to call it. So i think theres a fair amount of progress thats made that is it still challenging to do business . And then yeah, of costs it is, but in the pragmatic manner, it doesnt change overnight because the eco system wont allow you to be without any rules and regulations, thatd be completely else. So a lot of people tell me, you know, here its stuff to do business and im saying shop, go to the United States and try and do business. That might be 10 times more difficult. And exactly, because its such a competitive environment. Are you ready for that . Level of competition for that level of come bleed, fee market. So sometimes your mode is a level of competition. So which is your most inspiring stock . I guess the one that im going to discuss later on, i think is like, which has been my biggest baby. I think its you have to come to how do you judge of the success of any business or the 1st day i would judge it for my own happiness, my own sense of pride. I one sense of banking up my conviction and what i felt i did because finally at the end of the day, you need to be a role in johnson. Shaw wells. Creation is an important part. So your stakeholders are the theme and the people. So to me, when i meet people today and said, who come and say, hey, when we worked with you, youll give us the toughest heroes. But actually those are the best years of my life. I think thats successful. Then you ran an organization where people felt the head level of ownership to that you made an impact because you were communicating in various forms. Are those television, all movies or animation. And then the 3rd one is if there was recreation that gave along the way, and i think now in education, in the top of that the system of the thought process. So how much do in board are keeping large with the, with the video start up, it has become a success. But at this moment, my focus is to disrupt the learning, skimming and Workforce Development education space with ive read the non for profit as been actually a lifelong commitment and some people get play golf. I make movies and stuff to this generation is restless. That doesnt mean that your generation and i maybe a few older than you as we would not restless, but dropped in 540 bins. And out of each i think i must have got skipped for funding for the rest of them were negative to us. You must be getting lot of scripts. How do you choose that . This is the for them im going to make. So today i think with obviously vs compared to your tv and its a fashion and hobby buses. At that time, it was a business in some form because that was shared homeless and when. So when youre doing somebody for a business, i think 60 percent of the things you do because you have to do them and 40 percent because you want to do them. And i think then its a passion or a hobby. It should be 99 percent of the time you something you want to and maybe one percent what you have to do. So to me i look at scripts in a way of what id really want to do. Is it a gym from my point of view is the story i do want dental, is it something that im supposed to be involved with . Im not taking anybody elses money. It is that accountability. It is what i wanted to do in that particular context. What are those costs on grid and then drain, been how to reverse it in the boss, the context was your tomato was better outside of india and then then inside of india today, everyone knows if the amount is better. But its only better because its inside of india, and i think therefore theres no brain right now. Lets not say that as somebody is an aspiration to go and walk abroad for 3 years. Thats bad. Actually, thats good. If you had an experience between good movies and then with the hollywood movie, you come back, richard with your ex. How do i totally agree with that when actually benefit what youre doing here in television, oregon, in phillips, the same way when people go abroad to study the learning of a different sense of competitiveness . I know we want to be the visual go to of the, of the world and be sure to be but at the same time is nothing wrong with one point. 4000000 where 17 to the was population. We definitely definitely click on being too late. So i would urge people that theres nothing wrong in being across the world. But in the brain drain is a where youre losing and its a leak. The faucet is leaking, the faucet is not making. The faucet is no longer leaking. People are coming back. They know that the one bed tomorrow have to be better. Itll happen in india. I totally agree with you when you say that people who are brought in and when they come back, theyve come as a person. I was, i was in us doing some book. When i came back, i became a better actor because i saw that i saw competition. I saw other people doing that, but you also saw discipline, you saw because i have idea yes or yes, you know, but, you know, thinking completely opened up. I still wonder that there was a certain sense of innocence when we would go to the dominated country. Now the gap is becoming smaller and i say, in this sense, i mean, theres a sense, a wonder. Now theres no sense of wonder. You have one will thing and you press it, then you get to information. But information does not necessarily prostate and knowledge. No knowledge comes with living. Yes. And knowledge does not translate into smartness either. Exactly. Exactly. So in this new little book, in rural areas, what is it that you actually empowering them for . Im raising aspirations and whatever happens. Yeah. And im empowering them to be self independent. Mm hm. I think the crux in google india today, and if im is that they dont feed in control of that destiny because if youre used to grandson and if you can control the life when i go to the schools there hed be taken for granted that in the act last night and somebody always used to give us what do you want to do when you grow up . Thats not a question is being asked and oral india. One of our most successful programs in our schools in our 1200 schools, was opening a library. And the attendance went up by almost 20 percent in schools because we opened that library. It was a, it was for the kids by the kids and they were managing it before that. The library was a come up with a block and a key in the Principals Office and a possible book rental that you can go sit in the corner and come back me. And the 2nd one was a career counseling program. And the question then, what will you do when you grow up . What do you want to do in your blog . Its outside of the normal firemen and policemen in governments, suddenly youve got from 4 choices to 40 choices and their parents didnt have that luxury. So theyre not going to ask them that question because they know that if they, even the person says i want to do this, they may not be able to afford it. So to me that johns formation is what is needed and of course we need water and we need salvation of costs. We need schools of costs, we need solar power. But the soft aspect is going to go 10 times. Honda foster and one of the things we do is we have a Village Development committee, so we go into a village and we stopped that. And that is something we learned the hardware for the 1st 2 years. We made targets do it on target. So whether or not theyre targets and there was a complete gap when we got them. And we actually, they make a 5 year plan where they see their village over the next 5 years. Whether they seem deadlines, whether they see that only livelihood, if i can raise their livelihood for x from what they are today. They wouldnt feel im independent. Im not depend. And when a man or the woman of the house feels that i think its a massive transform ation, how much have books made a difference to your life . All your thinking, my wife is about issues lead us. So we have to lodge libraries in the house and everyone says, wow, and you know, im zoom calls. Everyone says lovely of every and i keep saying thats not my wealth of knowledge. Thats how does, but for me, books have been chapped us and im a, im a not good scanner person. If im having a conversation, the main point is when you have one our conversation even take 2 things away from it. Thats huge. Most people think, oh, you know, i was in focus with the fact of the mattress you need to take to things. So ive been a lot of chapters of books bus and then a whole book person and you get to your devoted book not only chapters. Yeah. What prompted you to write your book . So the 1st one that i wrote, dream is their eyes opened. And i think that was because i was at that cross road when i was starting my 2nd evenings. And i was meeting a lot of entrepreneurs and i reflected back 20 is back on my own journey, but they would have the similar crossroads and see me out more than say a fear of failure was coming up. And i said some things that you and, but some things just havent changed. So to me, the book was more about talking about failure is on an ongoing basis because i think feeling is need to be evangelize media. Evangelize is success or negative stories. Whichever were looking at here, you need to evangelize video. People dont talk about a proud to me and i think you know you what you said, but you went to the us and then their failures, evangelize, meaning people look up to that. And if youve done 3 celia, i go a play on my failure. Its called a good view is of the my auto body. Yeah. Yeah. Then if you what 3 feet is, theres a better chance of getting funding because people have known that youve actually tried. Yeah, youve got it. Now theres a lot more experience as an assets side of the Balance Sheet for a lot of people, the thing is in the liability side, itd be about and she, and i think to me, that book was about communicating that and your 2nd book, the 2nd book was because i was inspired now that i was getting the scaling and ive read and there i do a webinar as talk to, you know, young learners, mid them learners, almost everyone is at a crossroads most of their lives. So it was about the fact that everyone is still obsessed with the hot skills of life that we forget the soft skills of life. And im a product of soft skills. I did my bachelor of commerce and then i didnt do much. I didnt have the self confidence, but i owned it i. I did allocution and debates and drama in schools that end up. Its just me that gave me the level of confidence of since you have this got conversation with you, that the has made to me say you can take away, you can, ive said backs and life. An affinity is youre gonna have a 0 bank balance. You can go bankrupt, but nobody can take away your level of confidence and you have a better deal on your skills that can, you can be bankrupt on what youve learned in life to affiliates. So that book was about that. So if you were to describe your life and you were to give it a title of what the all, glory is fleeting degree taxes. Yeah. I get criticized. Lots of, i dont celebrate enough. You know, and im saying, yeah, because actually life is a little bit about that. And if you treated it that manual, youll always be curious. You always have your feet in the ground. You always dream with your eyes open, not because and youll be practicum. And as long as people like you are there, theres a lot of insufficient around and thank you very much. Thank you. But i just went back to that whole language was one i loved so many things. Sonya today tied to it only scrolls and thank you for watching to join me next week for another intimate yet engaging of it. And lets talk part of that i know from the acceptance and im here to plan with you whatever you do. Do not watch my new show. Seriously. Why watch something thats so different. Whitelisted of opinions that he wont get anywhere else. Welcome to please or do have the state department c i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. Choose your fax for you. Go ahead. Change and whatever you do, dont want my show stay main street because im probably going to make you uncomfortable. My show is called stretching time, but again, you probably dont want to watch it because it might just change the way you hello and welcome defrost of full force. 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