The United States. It is a vassal states or the coalition against peace from ukraine. To cause it is defined in ministration. It is against most of the world that historical wind is blowing against the west, the hello, im a know a chan. You are tuned into modus operandi. Its the stuff of nightmares. For those of us working in the tv news business, a live broadcast was interrupted by master gunman taking the acres and staff hostage on live television. The viewers seeing it unfold in real time, that event and will matic of the spiral of cartel and gang violence. Taking over the once peaceful country of ecuador allegations of corruption, tying local authorities and politicians to the crime sprees have civilians paralyzed with fear. Today will delve into whats going on in ecuador. All right, lets get into the m o the. It was a happy start to the new here in why a q, when again of mass gunman, storm the local a base station taken everyone inside hostage, even planting explosives on innocent crew members, all happening live on air. Police quickly responded, bringing an end to the situation safely. Within 30 minutes. Remarkably, nobody died, and all 13 suspects were arrested without further incident. Ecuador is president. Danielle noble, has since designated some 20 drug cartels. Terrorist groups and authorize the countrys military to quote, neutralize them. Within the parameters of International Humanitarian law, the president tacitly acknowledging the country defending into a narco terror state. Joining us now for more is as the bunker hill, he is the head of news for the cradle. Esteban, thank you so much for being with us. First. Lets begin with this big story from ecuador, one of the most powerful gang leaders in the country, adults on my cs. The head of the los jonetta is crime syndicate. Apparently, somehow disappeared from prison and why i q. This sparked a shockwave of events, including gang members taking over that live news, cast prison uprisings. Could you give us some details as to why this is happening right now . Hi my name on thank you so much for having me. And yes, i just said the escape of these not. Not on us. Feet dont its uh, hes screaming on the handle. He disappeared from prison. You know, the Prison Authority a few days before these, uh, these events that involve the duty station they, uh, they announced that uh they gonna say he escaped. They only announced they couldnt find him. You know, we dont know where hes and then uh, well the spiral bottom is that we saw it continued. You know, well that was, it was in reality what seems to have happened is that feet, the escape around christmas, this is what are some Insider Information that has been going around in that. Why did he escape . Why did he have such a so, you know, just disappear . Is because in the seas around 2018. 2019 the presence of be inc. Im sure all of the prisoners. They are the ones calling the shots. They are the ones that have the keys. If you know youre talking about the recent bruce on the right, thats present raj and equivalent to become the norm for the past 3 years. And we have had hundreds and hundreds about almost 500 people have died during this mass spec. There is every time that we care about, i for the over the past several years, it has to do with some form of present mass like a person of variety. Not there is a fact, and that is because it makes it all goes back to these that at some point they put already in the state, decided to have control of the presence over to the prisoners and they have been and this is why the nonmetals this iron obama is now the most recent events. And yeah, and i, if the post gave up on the, you know, theres really not a, not the reason why he actually escaped the work and be already is that operated in the wall. Had announced that as part of the security plan, and he wasnt going to transfer the heads of the big guns to different braces and i guess get them out of there, you know, their preferred sale or well, you can even call them us now, you know, they these places were small apologise, and then you know, dissipates. This happens and its, its like i saw a horse as i saw a horse by the guns. Wow. I mean, just hearing that the gangs have taken over of the actual prisons themselves. Thats gotta be terrifying to the local residents. But speaking of the, the newly minted president , then youll know was one of his campaign. Promises was to crack down on violence, including those gaze through his much touted phoenix plan as he called it. However, since he has taken the helm, it seems ecuador has actually seen an escalation of violence, contrary to what he had vowed on the campaign trail. Why, why is that . Well, you dont do that today. A person looking for the outside. Yes, because you know, it just seems like im just gonna try to balance it off to the what the power, the reality is, the balance has to be that the balance has to be there for the past, for 3 years. The only difference really when he comes to that, me and the what was the power around mid december . Thank his predecessor, a bank of the year. My last so or was a, hes, he didnt finish his period. The is, i mean to impress it and hes telling me here is the finish the period that gave him a lot so couldnt finish. So the only difference is that the wife has actually taken action. Thats it. Thats it because the other one also does nothing. Thats not pointed, he tends to do anything. Hes just kind of sat on his hands and you know, as solid, a fathers Research Grow and Everything Else there. Your rights all the while when you, you know, you explained that i declared 22 and these are going to stations. The 3rd is groups that if you have the minutes, are the authority to come after then, you know, because another very important thing that all of your viewers need to understand about it. Whether its the police is essentially another car tell. The police does not work to protect the citizenship. You know, at the very least and factions within the police do not like either the police is very corrupted in the theres the several, several a, you know, high ranking members of have been, uh, i q is a very, you know, eh, and bad things as opposed to being involved with like are those of us taking payments. So its like if you see an action by the fun, this is not just because you know, they dont have the weapons which they dont or they dont have the life that bullet proof best, which i guess they dont bought is also because it doesnt really you know is there are going to start a fighting the agents of the drug cartels industries. Theyre going to involve arresting a bunch of their own members. So thats why you have to bring in the military, which are also not completely as prestigious as it was, was in the eyes of the people. There are at least as not as, as brought in as the police. It is. So thats what youre seeing now that you know theres action, theres actual action being taken, the prisons are being put under control. But then the question is, how long is this going . I left because this doesnt mean that the prisoners are no longer in control. It only means that their father in space so they can put on the show, like now you book on the computer. Im not showing this, im not. All right, and we should point out if we didnt mention before that you are yourself and ecuadorian national. You were born and raised there, you grew up. So if anybody knows, you know, the climate in the atmosphere of whats happening, it would be, you know, you brought up the more last so, you know, then youll know law has declared a 60 day state of emergency similar to what last so did, which was really very little success under that previous administration. However, he has ordered 200000000. 00 worth of weapons from the United States. To implement this new security plan designating, you know, 20 plus groups, terrorist and what have you. How much of a role has the u. S. Played with this new government, the new regime, if you will. And can we expect the same, or perhaps even more us influence under no more as well as just one thing i want to highlight. The sleep limit is the 20 to the state of exceptions in our state of emergency is none of that work. None of them did anything. No. Why dont you start at the very least, you know, the prisons are being taken uh under control from the riots. So thats, thats a good thing obviously, and there is at rest. Thats also a good thing, eh, but as far as the us involvement well in the us involvement has been very, very profound for the past 5 or so years. And i dont think thats gonna change with, i mean there was this week of the us in the head of the us Southern Command or i read your son is expected to get the tool. You dont get paid for this cause these are these new arms purchases and the other michael piece battery is taking bark on the, on the security meetings, you know, being led by the president. It for the response to the, to the tune that is played by the white house. And that has been the reality of the country, sees it turned towards the right away towards the, on the relation seems that youre not letting anybody know. And then you get a more or less so. And now the who is not really starting from the 5, you know, the me in the was, hes the son of the reach his family. And it was all or if he was born in miami, florida is harbor and educated. This is not exactly a mind we, we use, you know, a to and for the needs of the people. This is on mine was family is the highest depth or to the Internal Revenue service. And now what is the was planning to finance be to war against the car sales is to increase the sales tax from 12 percent to 15 percent. While he, you know, with his dollar, which is less than 2 rights off his familys best, which, you know, goes above a 100000000. 00. What a coincidence. Its really sadly the same thing. What a coincidence huh. You know, lastly, before we, we go to break as the one down the well is just 36 years old. Hes one of the youngest World Leaders to take the stage just a few years older than him in neighboring. Oh so little is not able color. Hes just, hes now just 42 years old. He took drastic measures across this country to crack down on the drug, cartels and slashing, overall crime and homicide across el salvador dramatically. Many are saying that no one should copy, mckayla is moves. What do you think . You know that the, the strategy that the has the politeness i thought it was worth to, to increase security for lower the homicide rate and, but it works for us. How about all of our cars, a much different story than the quite a lot and a much more, you know, different populations you, you cannot just transplant these things, you know, and uh, yeah, the piece is, what of, i mean i was trying to do it because this is what, uh, its kind of become the talking point. You know, you have probably the security, the one, but then it also build prisons are its not everyone you know, no matter if they are actually guilty of something a, you know, and they think people because they have that there was, are there are, they have about their uh, yeah, heavy shape. And this is kind of the approach, right . But then i, i just want to, you know, bring to the attention Something Else that needs that. Uh while i was talking about the has been uh, i called country and played by them. The balance for, for many, many years. And it was only been the truth for about the past 6 years. And before that we werent the 2nd safest country and nothing america. Just last year we close as the most dangerous. But, you know, the real question needs to be asking these, how do we get to be that safe . And we didnt get to be that saved by applying the policy is that valuable bell is doing. We got to be such a safe country by taking away the social base from the drug cartels, you know, by providing younger people. We dont cartoony visa with access to university to get access to, you know, to, to, out of a break causing, disclose to, to, uh, to a 5 by latricia to, uh, you know, helping people get uh, a property to work right now. If i was one of the highest on the button, there were rights in the, in the continent and one of the highest migration raising the company. I just said, i am, if i go in and uh, i was one of those bomb and i was calling from one of those families that migrated when weve had a crisis at the beginning of the turn of the century. And we came back once we saw that there was a government that was taking care of the people that was providing opportunities, you know, thats, thats what the work, the nichol i thought. And i feel like, you know, the answer is better than the end of all i writing the phase. But suddenly this is why it wasnt meant that the sponsor has your money both on the line. So the policies that the United States likes to see, which is, you know, less spending or whatevers probably more be able be pretty. So its more in prison and people for being poor. And josie are not perpetuating the suspected that uh, it has to work anywhere where you got to buy arms, esteban you have to buy arms from the us. Thats the only way. All right, dont go anywhere. Dont go anywhere. Theres a lot more to ask you. All right, coming up next us sanctions hitting various central and south american states might be playing a role in the escalating violence being seen across latin america. Well discuss it when we return with esteban, cardio. Sit tight. The m o will be right back. The, [000 00 00;00] the, to take a fresh look around as a life kaleidoscopic isnt just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real live indians. Fixtures, design to simplify will confuse really once a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as fast can you see through their illusion going underground again . The russian states never as one of the most sense community best, most all sense and up the same assistance must be the one else holes. Question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on rochester day and split the smooth net keeping our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube. The question, did you say even closer to the walls and back to the m o. M l. A chance as the us southern border remains a hot topic in the 2020 for us president ial elections. Little is being discussed about the root cause of this migration. Esteban claudio, head of news at the cradle is back. Thank you so much for sticking with us as the one. So echo doors, homicide rate has skyrocketed. As you mentioned, a little earlier since the coven pandemic in the country reporting an unprecedented over 8000 homicides. Just last year and a 288 percent increase in the number of homicides per 100000 people in 2022. What are the reasons for this mass of uptick and in this kind of violent crime, especially when i could order was considered one of the safest countries in the world. I mean, as you said, just 710 years ago, the executive talk, you see, it seems like was 6 years ago when i got this point, i guess, 7 years ago, and we were, weve had our homicide rate, that only was about of 5 homicides for 100000 inhabitants. Last year, the homicide rate, close that 46. 00 on the sides where i be 100000. 00 inhabitants. You know, if some of the cities you make by law where their own countries, they want to be the most violent place on eric are not, you know, bad places like us, but i look at places like the videos are put up. So why did these happen . Well, you know, i thought the funded i b b, i before the break, which is this. They gave up control of the presence of the drug cartels far for uh, you know, further on uh for medical reasons which is, uh, you know, a whole nother uh, kind of warrant. But essentially, since then a while we have seen it over a boston, uh priest, the massacres of which nearly 500. 00 people have died in that pile. Is that mileage just like uh you know, flooded right into the streets because the police are not in control of the streets and because the government is not was not interested in taking control of the streets and give him providing people security. So, you know, the cop eh, to main guides, less tornadoes and those notes for us tonight. Those are essentially a proxy, a for the seen a lot of people. And those nobles at a proxy for the police, because i cannot assume that the mexican drugs are, those are incorrectly bile and the front of me, brutal. Im, you know, im from, im sure your, your viewers are familiar with some other methods. On top of that, you have the baby. Yeah. Mac. Yeah. Who control the influx of cocaine to europe . Yeah, they poured the font for it in belgium. And you also have been but im good, not a tale and boss. Yeah. So i followed it just completely, completely taken over by these very powerful, very violent. Eh, trust, national dropped ourselves. And the thing is, is the show us the, you know, right now the why you see, they are me, you see the police there are, there are arrested people in the street. They are, you know, like, got everything you want see. But if youre a risk, 80200000 little what solid years, if you are a raise, you know, the boss ends of these are leaders that uh, are you know, like 5th or whoever. Thats not really, you know, whos behind on the why were seeing a lot because what were seeing unfolding the lot, it was down to the, it was all, oh, im sorry to the powerful economic groups because theres not and lets not forget that you get more law so ended his period early because it was discovered by his brother in law was option in all powerful government positions, cabinet positions eh, with the help of an agent for the mafia. So thats how big it runs, the ra payment by the, in the fact that youre seeing these on the streets. You know, if you see uh this group of, of government and theyre uh, you know, the Television Studio and they take the people hosp agent. They put the explosives and whatever. And then the police in half an hour they take, i mean, you know, almost with no effort. And they just see the pictures. These are all children. You know, at least all of them are children. There, you know, young teenagers, the other half, they are older. That may be 25 years old. The oldest one who have these kids. There are kids that were left behind. Their kids were forgotten, who never had a child in life. You know, im not apologizing. You know, for agreement i was referred to in, you know, or to Say Something for the parent or using these point where you need to understand what the root cause of the problem is. And that is not being addressed. That is not being has not been authorized by any more than as not being addressed by yet a more last time doesnt seem to be a going to be authorized by the walkways. Dont be here until next. May you know next month and theyve been extra. Ill see some meetings and if i thought thats, thats how we ended, we are. Yeah. And, and to your point, i mean, im from los angeles and i grew up there, you know, in the eightys and ninetys where the gang violets was edits, peak, right, and movies were made about and what have you, and looking back now, theres so Much Research that has been done, why did kids join games because a lack of opportunity in the areas that theyre from. Theres basically nothing else for them to do. No, nowhere else for them to go. So they turn to this life of crime as a means of survival. Again, not, not apologizing for them, but there is precedent and studies that have proven this out over the past 2530 years now from los angeles. You know that, i mean this is that it is a clickable as well. I would say to echo the, what on so this and this leads to another imperative question i think on given the political a people that we saw in venezuela that was largely brought on, i would say by us lead sanctions there. And of course, we had the little um, little bit of time we saw the self declared president , one why know which lead to a wave of my room fleeing to neighboring countries. Do you fig. As echo the water further descends into, i guess we can call like a violent period, that many will begin to seek asylum in neighboring nations as well. I mean, are we going to see if a migration exit is out of ecuador . As we are already saying, were ready to be seeing it for the past few years. A i just said uh a few minutes ago and hes essentially really started on funding during the back. And when uh, you know, the businesses were shutting down to people where, you know, school and at the same time the government was starting, that was supposed to be starting down on hospitals. So we just saw these massive a lot of my friends, you know, eh, and i feel like uh, although sadly, right now we cant even be compared to venezuela. We must be compared to painting because of the powers we, katie are much more relevant than that. They can be without any other country in our content that do not a right now in the body in jungle. I dont know if you know, maybe youve seen uh some of these videos. You see these, these cues here is lives of migrants. And a big part of them, theyre coming from a lot, i think last year at 300000. And they buy the oreos and theyve, theyve gone through, you know, at this point we are probably crossing into our media and, or so that how they have left the most of them. Of course they go to the us because we are in the same function and then because these guidelines, they also controls because they are, you know, theyre the human traffic and business. So if you know you have the guy in your town and they come and they blackmail your business and, and you can say to blackmail, so you pick out on, would it be friends or a, you know, member of the guy. So you can pay for your family to work with you as a video. These guys would, takes you to the us border and so on and stuff hard, you know, in new york, it may or eric adam. I know hes dealing with a huge problem with the, with the migraines. And i remember an interview from him a few months ago, which he said, most of them are venezuelas and then the 2nd on the 2nd one, a nationale be, is it by the organs. And he can book while, all right, im pretty sure he can for brother recently to, to meet with a how are you these are our or something or other so yeah, like we are again exporting my brands week, which is exactly what it feels like. Um, you know, the best they, me under these uh, west uh, has your money that we live in to is it seems to be for us, which is if you can survive the game and if you cant afford anything and if you can find work, then migrate and i will become just another, you know, and its the piece take, maybe just arrived at the idea and maybe you survive a, everything that comes after that. Maybe your, your, your past a, you know, border security. And then you pass on by funny, you know, like whether it is, it depends on the remittances of migrants and it has been before the way we thought of our previous migrant pricing. The price is into your to 1000. 00. Yeah, so the remittance has are a major source of income for many, many migrants from latin american countries. But again, it goes, it goes back to the root, causes a lot of economic strafe for those people and theyre desperate people dont just make these, these dangerous tracts as you said, unless they are actually desperate. I mean, some people maybe, but generally speaking, no, you dont, you dont risk taking your, your small child, you know, walking thousands of miles to, to risk death if you werent desperate. So very excellent points. Always appreciate a conversation with you, esteban. Thank you so much as the one claudio is a be root based ecuadorian journalist. Hes the editor at the cradle. Thank you so much for your time and insight. Thank you. Want to know what weve got to be on this. All right, so that is going to do it for this episode of modus operandi the show that takes deep into Foreign Policy and current affairs. Im your host window a chance. Thank you so much for turning it. Well see you again. Next time to figure out the m. O, the United States. It is a vassal states or the coalition against fees from ukraine to cause. It is defined in ministration. It is against most of the world that historically the wind is blowing against the west. The line, scott bennett, im a former United StatesArmy Psychological Warfare officer, really served in the state Department Counterterrorism office under investor del daily the. So i wanted to come here to russia in the dawn bass area and gather the facts to take back to the american people. The hold on fast as the front lines and the square, the bombs and the bullets are raging. This is where people are dying. This is where the buildings are exploding the go. I wanted to see 1st hand the scars of war. The to the is also is this house is the 2014 why that includes us crime death. 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