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To a voltage show for students the the hello and welcome to cross side were all things are considered. Im peter lavelle. What those jo bidens bizarre visit to israel tell us the green light, a land invasion of gaza was a deal made to allowed a deliveries from egypt essentially does the bye, didnt ministration have a strategy . In the meantime, palestinians in gauze are, are dying and record numbers, the processing time assign. Im joined by my guess to me 3 lot scott, us and they wrote is a lawyer. And if a freelance journalist also in b route, we have our osman, she is a assistant professor at the Lebanese International university and political commentator. And in raleigh, we crossed serene mcgovern. He is a former c. I a analyst. All right, cross talk roles and effect. That means you can jump anytime you want. And i always appreciated, right. If i go to you 1st in raleigh and, and looking at politicians in israel and then this whole train upon the western politicians, making their homage to jerusalem. I cant i, i have this feeling that i have this echo in my head. This is all the same rhetoric from 911. This is the, the global war on terrorism all over again. And we know how bad ended. And on top of it, everyone, george w bush. He has been rehabilitated completely and without any push back whatsoever. So i wanted to start with the, the larger picture, re what is going on here, and then well get to dig deeper. Obviously it went in, the crisis is going on and policy go ahead, right . Of the biggest thing, theater is what the old soviets used to call a correlation of forces. Now, over the last 20 years, the correlation of forces as had a tech tonic shift. And that was apparent that the United Nations yesterday, when the us had to veto a ceasefire resolution and a pro have ation against what the israelis were doing, just placing people in kaiser. And it was the only only no vote that as big. So whats going on here . Well, i dont think biden is being well advised. A surprise, surprise. I dont think he knows what hes doing. I dont know whos writing his note cards. When he says, as he did on the plane, you know, i dont understand why people would believe this rarely version of what happens there are there as well. I mean, oh, maybe it was. Maybe it was unintended. I mean give me a break. So what im saying here is the correlation of forces has changed as the multi paula world. Its a bipolar world. Its the United States, and is vito, i guess the rest of the world, you know, mar. Well, one of the things that this administration is known for is the rules based order. We hear that all the time. Well, theres no such thing as a rule space order. Now if israel is not held to account for what its doing and they dont want, uh so hold israel to account, go ahead and bear with not only they dont want us to hold israel to account, they dont even want us to talk about the calamity and the atrocities that is being suffocated and suffered in being put as a burden for a lifetime. I guess people have found a spot, especially in gaza. I mean, they dont want us even to report about the massacres, but these really entity commit to the last of which is the baptist hospital, which took more than 1200. 00 lights, including women and children majorly, and women and children. Its not only about and letting israel do what it can and what it should, the eyes of the west against the need to accomplish opinions, but also about putting out at the screen to cover the atrocities that they committed while doing so. And its, its a bit bizarre to see that on day 3 of the looks of flood operation, we saw how us and then the for on the okay, start something theyre, theyre good carriers to the mediterranean as of like they have been planning a this, but the Palestinian Resistance operation just brought it into effect earlier than it was expected. This is what everyone is talking about right now. Theyre trying to get here because they had a feeling that something is brewing. Because for the past 3 years, weve been seeing that the Palestinian Resistance operations have an escalating, especially in the west bank and in parts of gauze as well. So this makes the world see that the so called the police, the self proclaimed police of the world who came to the helped to the age of its calling me in the heart of the middle east and made it very fast, made this decision without even going back to its own people, the people who elected them, they didnt have a choice and that neither did the United Nations as well. And we also how it was the United States of america, but stopped the very dire, much needed a ceasefire, especially for the people of cause or at least to get in the necessary many turn to eat that they need at the moment. Because my friend, before i started the show with the always speaking to my friends at gaza after i was thankful, the able to get some Internet Connections with them and they start at the moment. Operations are being done. Surgical operations are being done to the hospitals without anesthesia because they dont have the medicine anymore and its being done on the floor because there is no space to do it. The more so its b. I know what it is, but my wife, youll never see that on the bbc or cnn will. Yeah, of course not. Okay, dimitri, whats really interesting. I thought the bidens trip was very bizarre. The bear, hugging and all of that that we have is just kind of creepy. Okay. And is a re already pointed out. Hes just reading from cards who wrote the cards, we dont know. But whats interesting is, is that, you know, you have the in the u. K Prime Minister there, i think, as we speak, the french president is coming. And its almost a if is if netanyahu is giving them in a, in a putting them under. Oh its, you know, theyre in front of some kind of grand jury. Youre here now and youre gonna stick with us. Whatever happens, okay . And youre going to cover for us and youre going to tell your media to do that for us. Thats what it looks like. To be, its very bizarre, dimitri, as well as was interesting, the board and twitter account before she came shortly before it came, proclaimed that he was coming to israel in a show of solidarity. I personally found that very difficult to believe, but at that point in time he had sent blinking, blinking it had what could only be described as a disastrous trip, perhaps formatted expectantly. He was being made to wait. Busy night by the saudi monarch for a meeting that was supposed to happen to 2 in the evening. He was tongue lashed by the uh, the leader of egypt, publicly, which was an extraordinary event. Yeah, i think that he had sent to, to aircraft carriers for the eastern mediterranean, pardon, uh, so that there was no need for him to come on top of the billions that the u. S. Provides every year to this apartheid state to show solidarity. I think he came because the monster that the United States has controlled or has created largely is now what is control. And if in fact to mandatory and supplies are not introduced into guys a very soon, there will be a level of death and suffering in this fall. Really devastated on play. That will far surpass anything that weve seen, the horrors that we witnessed up until now. I was a neutral, but dimitry, im sorry to interrupt you. Thats the plan though, isnt it . Thats exactly what the plan is and that, and the western leaders are supposed to give cover to it. Okay. Thats i think this is all one mentioned on or well the is really governments plan is definitely that i that to some degree there, the western governments are prepared to accept that, but not at the sake of their own hides. And they see that the muslim 3rd world is exploding with complete justification. And so they want to, i think again, i dont have a hot binding to the white house. Im looking at looking at this from the outside, trying to interpret what is going on. My sense of what is going on is that there is a certain level of panic because of the immense, wide spread anger in the air of world. And the muslim world about what is happening. There is a genocide occurring and gas it before the eyes of the world. And so biden, i believe probably came to israel not for a show. Busy of solidarity, but to have a frank conversation with, with mister netanyahu, and explained to him that at some point in the not too distant future, theyre going to have to allow to manager in a, in 2 guys in order to prevent a complete and utter explosion. In this part of the world, and i dont know whether at this stage stage its going to be possible for anybody to control the monster that the Us Government is created. I mean, we have the incredible spectacle of the is really do defense minister for cleaning at the very outset of this offensive that all rules were dispensed with. That he was going to lift all restrictions on the the is really offensive on what he referred to as human animals. The man was basically declare, so it is. All right, so essentially move on to right as real is exempt from International Humanitarian law. This is what were saying here, right explicitly. Well, its called the x, okay, lets go to right here. Go ahead, write the name of the whats going on. This is genocide. All right . And the difference is that you have not only russian and try to, youre not only have the arab states you have you. Um, were not going to tolerate at this time. This time, the balance of power is very different from all last times you have the, you have the re and president calling up the head of saudi arabia. So they say it was amazing. Yes. And then you have the, i heard the shooting. Asking is when its changed, could you please, could you please gather a meeting here . Good. We need to all get together with your supervision and your input because this is a big deal. So if, if this is a stick, lindsey is tenzing is launch big time. Theres going to be really some reaction that we had never seen before. We have the actually really is the visiting with the head of, as by law as well as i had a im us. So theyre getting ready and then it goes should still. So this, ill just say one more thing because nobody has mentioned this is a personal stake. Goodness ok. Netanyahu and up in jail as so good, jo, buys you ok if you lose this one. If you lose your grade, if you lose the election, well, whoever comes in could end up putting joe biden and hunter and some of their associates in jail. This is a big personal stake that needs to be mentioned and needs to be taken into account tomorrow. And we have one minute before we go to the break the bar, what go ahead. Different perspectives, we see despite the fact that we agree most of the things to present. But the perspective from here is that we are ready to give our lives. We already gave 17 of our lives from all people, 17 fighters, and find a 66 dominions on the border with occupying the sign. And i do believe that the carriers, the aircraft carriers are there to stop any counter attack from his blah. And i dont think its working because last night was the toughest, the night on the border between live and on and time is fine and it was on fire. And i think that the coming days will be very, very decided whether or not we will see an open war in the region let specifically by his will not my people, my country under the fire of israel again. But this time fire back will be heavy. Okay. Well, im going to jump in here folks, were good to go to a short break. And after that short break, well continue our discussion. Power start to state the the acceptance. And im going to plan with you whatever you do. Do not watch my new show. 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The, the next across software. All things are considered computer level to remind you were discussing how us 9, the res already mentioned that the, the United States has very hesitant to see more is that it promotes, come to an end. We have this current war against the people of gaza, and of course the, the war and ukraine, which they were to ample opportunities. The end of the United States said no, but they want this to continue on. And so if we look at, but at the same time, they never know how to end wars. Okay. And so in ukraine its a stalemate. Inevitably, Ukrainian Government will fail. But what are the us railways got to do with casa . I mean, other than genocide pushed them into the see push them into the egypt governance. I have a mock mood of boss travel there for them on the back of it is really tank. I mean, whats the end game here, dimitri, as well there in game . I think its the expulsion of the Palestinian People from guys entirely this, this uh you know, raising to the ground of the northern part of guys or large parts of it, forcing people to move southward, which happens to be closer to the border of egypt. I think was a precursor to mass expulsion. Thats the plan. But the Egyptian Government wants nothing to do with it. The arrow boiled will not tolerate the world outside of the urban muslim world. I think at this stage, particularly in other parts of the global south will not put up with this incredible monstrosity. And so this plan is going to fail. It is ultimately going to fail. And the context, i think sure is very important, is real strength is always derived from its support by the United States. It receives currently 3800000000. 00 a year in military aid. The us a sense, as i mentioned, to aircraft curious to the eastern mediterranean, politically, economically, militarily in every conceivable sense, the us, the super power. Up until recently, the sole superpower has backed up, is really in every way. But the ukraine war has showed beyond a shadow, but of the ukraine is that the United States is a much diminished superpower, still a superpower, but not the old dominant, super power that it once was. And that will have impacts for is real. I think the worlds sense is now the United States and its allies are weaker than they have ever been. And they have an opportunity finally to bring this massive, unspeakable injustice that weve seen in palestine to an end. And i think that this is whats, whats going to transpire in the days and weeks ahead. And well see this just in just just coming to an end in the not too distant future. What model you want to do. You want to jump and go ahead, mar, what . Go ahead. Yeah. Started seeing that in the us of everybodys in iraq when the has, will not iraq function the send in a bomber drones to the i said air base. I dont know if you have that in your western media, and today that just this morning, there was an attack on the critical oil field where the, the American Occupation soldiers are there also with bomber drones. So now your interest, so the United States of america are being directly targeted by the axis of resistance in the region. And this is a very big escalation against the presence of aircraft carriers that support the big 3 of the entity. But again, at the end of the day, the main, the main people here, the main important functions that were talking about here is garza and we heard the axes of resistance saying that in each part of human you rock, youre running and a security. Im not saying, but in the event that these read, the entity actually starts an invasion examination against the gods that were going to see a full scale war. But now i think theyre going to start to shift their conditions to elevate their conditions by saying if you do not allow human entering 8 to enter, then we will shift into another strategy. I think we have started to see that strategy and our on our uh regent. Yeah. Well morrow. And those 2 aircraft carriers, theyre pretty big targets wouldnt be a think. I mean thats, that may be tested here at one point. Well, it may be tested, one might let me go to ray, ray in raleigh. All the usual voices, the usual um the phones in washington. This is all an opportunity. This is the opportunity of the century. Rents go up to a rad whats topple of sod, but theres, this is a rhetoric thats coming out of these other places Like Washington right. Well, peter, its is delusional. Yeah. As you know, people have the grass, but with the fact sheer, one very interesting thing. Not mentioned yet, is that n b c a, a challenge for in britain, theyre not buying a that it was how much that destroyed all those people are bad hospital. I mean, this is amazing. There are handouts being expressed in the most of the bands for media that gives me some hope that people this time will say, well look, this is so obvious that it are ships to be cited script. How much paper last Football Data were going to have the right access. So lets, lets head you out beds here and lets, lets make it so that we dont look really stupid as we have almost all well read, ray, this is kind of like the north stream pipeline. I guess well never know who did it. You know, they just me, they liked the rabbit hole everything. Absolutely. Dimitri, im glad that re mentioned nbc, because of 3 era voices on nbc have been suddenly silenced. People that had experience of the middle east in dogs that i guess theyve been furloughed. Ok. I mean, this is just what the length that they go to to and dismissing form the public demetrius. Well that certainly, and were talking here about mesquite site and the 3 personality that gives you the amount of safety and somebody that i, i have contempt for basically what he should have a right to speak. Every one should have the right complete to spend it. And frankly, a cheer here, contempt for mister a son, although he has been relatively good on the question of palestine. Use compromise in any respects and theyve removed him from the air. And its not just the 1st of all thats indicative of the ramping is lambert phone via which now which continues to prevail in the western establishment. But theyve gone well beyond that. I mean, you had the, the, the, the, the home secretary in the United Kingdom proclaiming, uh, i think his name is braverman that, uh, burying the palestinians leg could potentially be a criminal offense under gk law. Uh, the so called champion the freedom uh, in germany. Youve seen people get a water cannon of women were into jobs, you know, a accosted by the police, take it away simply because theyre waving the palestinians leg. What i find a pauline as somebody who spent most of his life in the west is that the government, the claim to represent us are telling the non western world that they are a bulwark, a guess, authoritarianism. But their current behavior is the pay them the head Board Hearing as well. Marley, you know, we, we had, we had nothing. Yeah. Hang on here. No, we had netanyahu. I dont know if it was with biden or, or whatever. It doesnt matter that all these western leaders are basically the same in my mind. You know that they, they, im also the nazis of the new nazis. Oh, it was with all those to show. So he was there. But the United States is backing nazi. Its a new crane. I mean, its really quite interesting. I mean, there are real lots that use. We saw one in canada a few weeks ago. Okay. And but you know, again, this labeling here go ahead, mar, one of the meeting. That is not illegal to austin. In florida, but oh, okay, what actually dwayne students lives in the west anymore, but its way ok to waive a nazi. Its market to support nazis at to see not the person now in the canadian parliament, or at least to see a insurgencies coming from a fighter is coming from europe coming from the west, swearing the nazi patch on their shoulders. Thats ok. Thats very okay. And its not ok to support thomas by or to at least have been promising a narrative to tell the truth about whats going on and found that doesnt really surprise us. Because if you look at how theyve been dealing with our as part of the world media wise, we see that over the past 4 years, they have taken us over from satellites. They have taken our websites down, they have taken our Youtube Channels down. They have taken our social media accounts down and they dont allow us to speak. I know these platforms are western platforms, but now they go on and they take away their own reporters just because they support the palestinian cause or at least want to try and tell the story or from the palace the need to sign. I mean, our sounds here in the we most are on a, i saw me, i dont know the reuters for thought river and reuters itself wouldnt allow its own. So in decency of saying, oh count i saw and they wouldnt find it in their statement. This is beyond words, but this is reality. They control the air, meaning they control the frequency of the, the, the, the, the people use for a, for their narrative. And now they want to show anyone else in their home and not allowing them to wave the flag by not allowing them to support thomas time, even by not allowing them to save a time from the river to the sea. This would be a, an offensive act in the United Kingdom, and thats beyond words. And also we have a lot of friends in canada and United States of america that are suffering from oppression from the regimes in those countries. Because they opened, disappointed about a son or a p is because they are from the region they have. Well, the marble marwood, there are there are palestinian americans in gaza. What is what is, what is biden doing for them . Okay. I mean, i size of knows if they were waving it, a ukrainian flag, they might get some help here. Re you want to jump in, go ahead. Yeah, i just wanted to point out how is sent it to how are you good, how naive political hacks like corps of germany are arriving in tell of a, a roost. Wafaa wayne was their cousin to drumming cross on which is at all a german tanks. It is a to the soviet union way back when. Okay, now hello. Theres nobody ever the sense of history here. The answer is no. They know what theyre going to learn a lot of history and the next couple of weeks. Yes and, but unfortunately when ive looked at them are what, and i look at dimitri m, i worry that that war is going to come to, to their part of the world to meet when you have one minute left. Go ahead, finish it off a look. I know its very difficult right now for those of us who are and i think the vast majority of people are very concerned about the future of the Palestinian People. But i, if you look at the tectonic ships which we had talked about, which are happening in the world today, in the reaction were seeing both inside and outside the west to this genocide. Im actually quite hopeful for the future of the house to post it. People there is much suffering to come sadly and tragically. But i do believe that the end of this Apartheid Regime is at hand. And its just a question of time now before it finally comes to immersive land. Well, a, the, i, i, i, the, well, i think ray really set it up really well. This is not the same world that we lived in 20 years ago. And all of your sophisticated military trinkets are not going to change the course the arc of history as its being played out here. I want to think, my guess, and a root and in raleigh. And of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our dc. You next time. Remember, press stop, rules the the, the new for monday. Im uh, getting back to do stuff. Yeah, im either going to use the fixture or take your set up at 100 level, thats in the 1200. I lied to you on this, this guy. Familiar . Okay, now i need you need cool. Get you set this up with us us. Did you say stick them on on us, seize on by. Thatd be a lot more you enjoy. Now im out of this. Go ok. Now send. Theyre not gonna still be close to what are you guys . Who do i equal to the so this isnt the other 2 months ago with us and discarded its due for quite a while. So who shall handle close to the sales office show for since the power sanchez . Ive been doing news now for some 30 years to language is all over the world. And right here in the good old usa interviewed for president s working for us Major Television networks. I think, i think new should be honest and direct and impactful, and this is direct impact the well, what im talking about r f k jr was k, jr is convinced that his uncle and his dad were likely killed for their believes and even suggest that it was a government hit him and talks about having to protect himself because