Authorities, the coming to you from the russian capital. This is our to international with the latest and world news today. Im sure ella, isabel, welcome to the program. Threats and future stability around the globe have been the watchwords of the past few days and the russian capital as moscow hosted a key conference on international security. More than 800. 00 delegates from 76. 00 countries took part in his opening address, the Russian Defense minister said the world are reno was evolving, giving a voice to the previously voiceless is the direction of the special military operation. Put an end to the dominance of the collective west and the ministry sphere. Its ability to impose its interest in various regions of the world has significantly decreased. The ongoing changes have increased the role of the countries of asia, africa, and latin america in the world system. Today, a reference, oppose not by the on forces of ukraine, but by didnt tie collective west, which has recently been joined by individual states of the Asia Pacific Region for the main or russian personalities. Presenting at this conference with our gay show agree with the Russian Defense minister, heavy hitting a very serious guy when he calls people listen, im one of the main things hes been saying at the conference was that ukraine is now essentially exhausted. And it gives a forum for the world to really speak, as he said, the countries who have been previously listened to on heard in post colonial advocate for example. And it was some of the comments by the representatives of these countries which proved to be really fascinating. We actually listen to the comments of a representative of the Central African republic and to hear what he had to say about the shifting picture subject to today. Well see that the United States and the west as a whole, not always contribute to the development of individual states. And russia is the main country that promotes the independent development of individual states, including those in africa. A remarkable representation of the global picture. And again, its a russia thats creating these for where these countries can have their message and their product stations under positions here. And we dont see this type of effort going into this in the west. And again, the narrative is the bush is isolated. So as far as the western narrative is concerned, these meetings dont even take place at all. And if they do, theres some sort of a malign uh, influenced building, boulder areas of the globe also represent them. Of course, the me least, the me least decades of, of the turmoil, more discounts and much of which many analysts independent, doubtless with the least you know, the gun in iran, in 1952 in the west. Western Oil Companies overturn the democratically elected government. Them a homicide, they at the p. C, i a, the, the rule book, you know, turn it over and over a regime change which led to huge conflict in the, in the region. And at the conference, we also had the Syrian Defense minister talking about their position and their view of the global picture. They thought a lot showed when human autocratic western countries are aimed at continued to own and planned the natural wealth. All the country seldom result as thoughts violating the freedom and independence of the countries of the region. The yes continues to plunder serious and Natural Resources and support on formations with impunity. This picture of this global picture now where more and more countries are looking to russia on china as partners uh, the idea of the western is sort of the strategy of divide and conquer it. Being replaced by the bricks, ideology of united and prosper. Another fascinating atten via is a really important meeting, was the d p. Okay. North korea, a country absolutely maligned and isolated in the west proportion, reaching out to friendship to them that cooperating on numerous fronts. And again, we see a country that has been the victim from the viewpoint of history of western had gemini, for the post and north tree and war period where this country was devastated again. Now getting a podium now getting a platform to talk. And again, we can listen to the defense of tashay from the deep your k. Speaking of the conference, the new for you will be putting on Financial Aid has now become not to cash or read a lot of question, love of who then when a new be a will many of the us and the puppy solve the puzzle is now turning the aquarium plan fluid and didnt know if these fisher into a new, fresh pouring or when you create a wall or youve shrink to decrease cause stage. The main dizziness and veteran beans or be with jasons photographs, imperialism, is but as some exploitation, this conference exceptionally important, not just from a Russian Point of view, but from the point of view of russia following through on this new multi polar ideology that countries just because the west as a country is, is the bad guy, doesnt necessarily mean its so just because the western media anoints a country as a road stays at does not mean its so. And just because the only country on earth that ever used a Nuclear Weapon in anger against the civilian population, the United States and now decides who can have those weapons to defend themselves from a huge west of the gemini, does not make it so fascinated conference, especially when you look at how shade the world is changing so much right now, its not that we have this multi poto. Well thats brought subbing and budgeting. The multi poto welders here. Its already here to stay in and you know, the power mechanisms of the world is shifting eastwoods and giving you the global south, the sea of the bricks as well. I mean, what about the, the deep context of this conference . So i guess in the view of what is multiple hours. Yeah, yeah, i agreed roy, and i think the reality is this is making a lot of people very nervous in the west. And when you look to africa, africa certainly important to the west. You know, the middle east of scary funding piece funding, trying to follow china as a broker, that they talk between the saudis and that theyre trying to do the same thing with the turks and the syrian. So this is worrying the western powers, not because they want peace and in the middle east, particularly because they dont want to lose the momentum of behind russia and china. The top soldier in china was at this conference. I use the platform to warn the wes off regarding taiwan. If i want to course a territory the United States over k says is chinese territory. And heres this one china policy, but over a fee then is advertising to send weapons and cause further if you like, disquiet in the region. Also mentioned by sort of a show you at this conference was the idea of this in the, in the pacific stuff, nasal. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization is also looking to influence countries in the, in the pacific. This defense of alliance, now trying to open another front against china and russia in the east. Of course, none of these narratives will be reflected in the western media, but russia persist in giving these platforms to countries who are previously hired in africa in the mid least to voice their opinions and treat them as partners rather than a master and servant relationship which i think is key to the future of breaks and multiple already with the rest of the ministry of defense has released the statement revealing the murky activities of the United States military. The Ministry Says that washingtons office of pandemic preparedness and response policy searches for virus mutations to then use them to further its own interest. As a 2019 United States begin preparing for a new pandemic by searching for virus mutations, we did not exclude use by the United States of the so called defensive technologies for offensive purposes. As well as for the purpose of Global Management by creating crisis situations of a biological nature. According to the ministry, washington has been a massing of various pathogens from its direct involvement with various bar lives around the world, which they say are for research and preventative measures bought rushes, defense of industry is not buying not. And they points out that whenever the pencil going, for example, is interested in any passages via cobit 19 or abn influenza or the african swine flu. They later somehow ends up becoming pandemic. A new sense to benefit from this, as weve seen time and time again, its american farmers, pseudo code companies. And they points out their findings points out that for example, that there is a possible collusion between big pharma and us aid via an Intermediary Company called eco health alliance. Now they have been studying the diversity of bad population since 2016. And theyve also been looking at mechanisms how to transfer a corner virus reins from bats to humans. And we know that just 2 months before the world ever heard about cobit 19, there was an exercise conduct about the Johns Hopkins university in new york. Or in that exercise entailed sciences transferring an unknown at the time strain of corned a virus from bytes to humans via pig salesforce, oldest in the office that is now being opened, leads them to question why this is happening. And of course, but they also points out that the us government, for example, in may this year, so that there is no longer a Public Health emergency when it comes to cove. Its joe biden himself last september said that the co with pandemic is over yet this july. They are open in this office of town, demick preparedness and response policy, which has led by a man who is a military combat surgeon and retired air force major job during the role. Why . In addition to those documents have been uncovered during russias special military operation in ukraine. Points to the fact that there is a center called the Us Army MedicalResearch Institute of Infectious Diseases actually place a crucial role in all this. And theyre the ones who are collecting all these dangerous path as a foam around the world. In these bio labs include a one in ukraine, cooking in the Us Army MedicalResearch Institute for Infectious Diseases, has been involved and Us Biological programs in ukraine. The representatives of the institute actively lead projects code named you p one and you p h. As part of these projects, the possibility of using m for pods to sprayed, rick set to you take bone and set for lights as virus, as well as causative agents of crime in congo hema, roderick fever, and also hunter viruses was studied. So thats why russians decides when this believes that washington is preparing to establish biological control, sort of using defensive technologies for offensive purposes to create biological crisis conditions and situations. And also theres out of concern about the people involved in all this. For example, dr. Anthonys vouch americas lead in doctor who was the head of the National Institute of allergy and Infectious Diseases. He has reported and made a lot of money from this plan demick. And hes also the one who was adamant that when it comes to cobra, 9 seen it came about naturally. We have what was your claim because were developing bio weapons and so they transfer z authority for off bio security to one agency in the 8 and 8 suggest are called the National Institute for infectious large disease doesnt run by anthony patchy so heavy file g called at all the responsibility for my weapons development. Youve got at that time, a 68 percent raise from the pentagon. 300. 00 scientists wrote president obama and said youve got to shut down anthony. Vouch. Because hes going to create a micro will. That will cause of a panic. And so obama sign and march maria and shut down the 18 worse of allergies experiments. And i, and instead of paying that law to anthony valgy ship that a lot of his operations off shore. And those operations ended up most of the hon. Why have which the military and the chinese on the peoples that are age are me and uh, and then a lot of them once a year, crimes. There will be those, of course, it will say that these are just all conspiracy theories or russian propaganda. But were talking about specific examples, specific organizations. And lets not forget that washington has itself admitted that adults have why lives including in ukraine. And again, lets not forget just how terrified they were a one point in case their research there falls into the wrong hands and how catastrophic that may be if it falls into ross in the hands. So what that research that was all about, perhaps this is what were talking about. The ukraine has admitted to blowing up the crime in bridge with an experimental drone. It calls a see baby with the head of the Nation Security service, claiming its a unique convention of kids. Is this what it shows, the strike on the bridge last month would use a c drone carrying some 850 kilograms of explosives, a wife and a husband fell victim to the attack, leaving their teenage daughter or friend, the head of Ukraine Security service threatened that more similar attacks were on the way and to discuss this indefinitely now across live and studio to independent dutch journalists, sonya abandon, and a welcome. Sonya. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. Thank you. And so you just returned from the don bass. What do you make of ukraines finally taking responsibility for this attack on the crime in bridge after denying it so many times . Well finally to admit is that they actually are behind all these effects because they do many, they did somebody most call schools and the crimea, they do this, i think. Yeah. And out on a nearly weekly or 2 weekly basis. So i think that finally admit, and this is what actually i think a lot of people already know what they are doing and its, its serving security that because in the january theyre what it is now for fellows who are raising some money for a new drone so i think this new drone is now to see baby, they called it the rank who revenged or something the so i mean this is and so they can say, oh no, its not from our, not the government. Its from, uh, we didnt make this drone, but this, this drawing was made by as a say of the fundraising from people. This is what they actually say. So they dont say they students took responsibility, but now at last they do. Why do you think that is, why do you think theyre now finally taking responsibility were before they refused to admit any, any sort of accountability . Well, i think uh they of course are losing on the bits of fields and the clients like the us and the western states and not very happy. Because now we can finally read in the media. Thats okay. Yeah, ukraine might lose maybe. Yeah, the counter offense safe, so it will take a lot of time. Maybe they even will lose territory. So now they can focus on the crimea and they can also say now, okay, we take responsibility, see what we are doing. Now we are trying to fight back, but of course its not the pricing. Its the original railway. Yes. And we know that ukraine is getting heavy support from the west particular the us. And so what is your take on the claims that they had the seed rounds without outside assistance . Well, thats what i said uh, there was somehow an article in january and it was from this. Now phillips and apple fellows are part of nato. Mm hm. They are the young ones and they were fundraising to design new, uh, drones. And these drones were the fundraising was from a private people. They said mm hm. So the ukranian government has not any responsibility and also not the west. So what actually, now, fellows are nato, so its all connected. And how significant do you think that these drones will actually be for the current conflict . Do you think this is actually something that will win any sort of advantage or do you think this is more of like a chest . Well, i think its, its a distraction, but i said from the will things whats happening on the battlefield. They are losing. They are losing, i think, everywhere. Sometimes they say, oh we, you know, we gain 3 kilometres of lands, but yeah, this is not true. So i mean, this is only in this direction like the drones we see on most co and credit. And of course crimea, its very important for a ukraine to say we want to crimea back. So this is continuously drones, but its not since a significant for the real battlefields. If this is a destruction, then why so much focus on the crimea and peninsula, if you know this is not something that realistically they are going to get back. Well, uh, i think so, lansing is up a few months ago back that he wants to conquer crimea, back to be ukraine. And of course the referendum was there last september. So, you know, cuz it is back to russia because the majority of the people in crimea are russian speaking people, russian, the ethical people. So this is very, you know, its, its, its like a, a trophy, it would be for ukraine, which would not happen. Right . Its so unrealistic and natos chief of staff has also suggested that ukraine may get nato membership in exchange for maybe giving some territories to rush. So do you think this is actually something that these are western states or prepare to do, or do you think theyre just sort of dangling this carrot on ukraine . I think so, because you know, this is what they do all the time. You know, they think they should do this, then we give do this and, but you know, all the people or the countries and nato are already saying the ukraine cannot be part of the nato, because usually it takes a lot of time to be part of nato. Like being part of the european union. So i think its a distraction again from western states to the real issue that ukraine is losing the comfortable offensive. Its not going well. Yeah, you say that kind of offensive isnt going well and the so much independent media has been reporting that, but west or media seems to be in denial. Do you think that maybe nato is shifting a bit . Do you think theyre going weary or a little bit apprehensive about the status of the conflict . Yes, sure. Because we also now hear that, you know, nato is preparing to put troops at the bell. Are russian border at the polish border. Poland to just type is military for rates a few days ago. So its oh, you know, he, thing of this is what they may be want hitting of the conflict we can say about, i dont think because i also heard that they want to put 300000 extra sold to us. But this is not realistic because it will take a few years. Do you think that after everything thats happened, if you crane were to enter nato, would even be a benefit to them at that point, i dont think so because. Well, western countries have put so much weapons in ukraine and what can ukraine offer to them . Not security, this is what needs so always for sending it to say we want security because we are not. And a 2nd for us. We are just defending for so security. So it will no bill let me know be any benefits because yeah, ukraine, its the country, its, you know, the eastern part is russia and the western parts, most likely poland has some aspirations to put this with bowlens. But as well, we dont not the benefits of that as well. Looking at moscow now, do you think they would be likely to accept any sort of piece deal that would entitle to allowing ukraine to enter nato or do you think they would reject such a as theirs . And yes, yes, they would, because uh, you know, uh, the, the government in russia always sets that a, you crank would not be part of nato because its the border of russia. Mm hm. So yeah, this is a something on realistically and also a piece, you know, a piece without speaking to russia. Its already now its, its not, its not, not based diplomacy. And this is not, its not happening. Likely. Someones ody, arabia. Yeah. They just had the, the conference. So do you think that, you know, as needles, to suggest that the, the westward officials are actually serious about a compromise with russia . Do you think theyre serious . No, no, not at all. Because when you are really serious and you want peace or at least it, you know, you wanted to stand, you have to put 2 parties together with the other parties, of course. And then you have diplomacy. You speak about it, but this didnt happen. Its just in ukraine, the with the 10 point im saying, okay, you know, we want this Business Days like that. We want the crimea. So its, its not serious. And there have been so many reports on the corruption within that Ukrainian Government and the ukranian military. The guardian also published a report revealing this corruption in the Ukrainian Military recruitment with people spending their life savings to pay these bribes in order to avoid serving and prescription. And weve seen the videos of them going after all of these ukranian individuals, which is what they were saying about russia and vladimir button. So whats, what do you think about that . Well, it shows the corruption and it also shows that they take people what you said from this to each man from the streets. We dont want to fight because people know now in ukraine that today, you know, going through the meat grinder the so they dont want it and corruption where does the money go then when they say this 10000 doesnt, 10000. 00 is where does the money go to who is taking the money that the people in the recruiting office or the government. So that is bribery. I think this is corruption. Well, you know, independent journalism has been a head on this conflict, but that was the guardian saying that, do you think there is an actual shift happening where the Mainstream Media has had to now accept some reality is about this conflict. I think they have to know because what i said ukraine is losing on the battlefield, so they cannot continuously say, oh, you know, ukraine is doing well there and you conquered the 3 to them with the staff working on with that. Their soda have to say something, i dont know if they will writes the truth of what is going on. Mm hm. But they have to shift. They have to. Yeah, i mean, in the United States, we just, you hear only what the western media tells you. So i can see how theyve gotten away with it for so long. But recently also theres the american rock then the killers. They had to apologize for bringing a restaurant onto the stage. Talk. Tell me about what you think about the rooster phobia thats been used to sort of, you know, its been, its just been exploited. I think, to get people against russia in the west. Yeah, its very terrible. Im from europe and in europe, my country, the netherlands is very beth and also germany. Its very terrible and germany, you know, who made so many, 6, the russian victims in the 2nd world war is unbelievable. And everywhere you hear russians are bad. The books are burning as statues, tearing down from the material, take war. And i think its, its really sickening. If you think about it to the, to, you know, they do this thing, especially in your, especially germany that theyre foss with jews where they defend the 2nd world war. Its now repeating in a different way, of course, but its repeating itself and mm hm. So what i always say, right, its a new sort of fishes and what is going on. Yeah, and i mean, just, i do want to talk a little bit about your trip to don. This is, this isnt your 1st time and youve been there many times now. What was most and pap, impactful on this trip that you saw . Were always, im always staying in the new york city. Usually. I always Ukrainian Army is so shelling done yet. City. And again, when i just left on a, when i was there, and its so terrible that they show apartment buildings, the children are dying. People, old woman dying there on the streets. And this is for me its, its about the war thats really terrorism. War is on the battlefield with 2 armies, you know, fighting each other, but this, this is so bad and it keeps on continuing already 9 years and you see it everywhere in other places they showing the people and thats the battlefield. Its really the people that they, its so its, i feel schools, you know, destroyed hospitals. This is, i mean thats, thats not for, thats you know, terrorism. How different is it, by the way, then, then what you, you see in your country versus what actually happens when you go there. Well, when Something Like that happens, then they have to say something. And the 1st thing they say russians are selling, for instance, dont yet kits in, and i think, hang on russian selling dont yet city, but dont yet, is parked with russia. The majority is still living to a russian, so russian is now selling its own people. So doesnt make any sense and this is what they, what im trying to say all the time. And this is what they are saying. So exactly the other way around to. Yes and well thank you so much for your reporting and your independent journalism. Sonya ending in the independent thats journalist. Thanks. Thank you. Mm hm. So the African Union has rejected a military solution to the situation and these year after tense discussion, according to diplomats, after the 10 hour talks, the union stated that will this associated itself from equal was with experts suggesting that ego was, will find it difficult to use force without the African Unions approval, local journalist timothy obese, who has more yes, basically with the condition of the applicant you and beyond, you know, not to support f was and its quest we invited media with its methods reports that goes to show the vision in the future and you know, in terms of taking it proxy to us that when it comes to, you know, the full in be sure this was not so in, in the, in the case of molly, it wasnt so in the case of like, you know, fast. So what she ended up in the, in the Continental Divide into the region, you know, people still, the courts seem to move by and for us to sanction leisure, but not support inside of the militarys disease. Im seeing that, you know whats being that strange, you know, not just us, the option, you know, also seeing top quality sense into read just, you know, criticized job to move by half last week and faced with disabilities reports. Weve also seen, you know, law makes 1000 nigeria to criticize a step. But what is important is that, you know, at the applicant you, theres on, has also suspend that. We made sure, you know, from all of its activities like it is not just going to get along with the planned by and for us to, you know, enable its military force. As like expert said, you know, some experts to say about how it would make, make it really difficult for ask was to be able to proceed with a plan. Meanwhile, the Economic Community of Central African states has given its back into the eco los grouping of west africa nations over it stands against the 2 government and gave me then a year and president , welcome the solidarity among the blocks. Hi, appreciate this whole entire team support of present bone go on the situation in new year where working not to compound the problem. I understand the fear of our people on any form of military action. Were working to keep the sanctions in place and were following them to the ledger. The statement comes just ahead of a meeting of eco as chief of staff on the new year crisis, which kicks off on thursday. Potential military intervention is still on the agenda as the deadline to return president , resume to power is long passed. An equal loss has approved the deployments of stand by forces. The blocks refusing to recognize the countrys new leaders. It has condemned Treason Charges against the house. The president , however, tensions are rising within the block is also station lawmakers from donna are urging the countries president not to deploy troops around here as it could be against on his interest. We got reactions to the situation from guardian hope or if we dont have that the now for resource for even solve our problems. I dont think theres any science in, you know, going out to solve somebodys problems, you know, few come way and work from like all most. Its always when he checks your words is still small. The moment you decide to join sugar has to fight them. Like to become and you will become an enemy to not be able to. So i think is known as a whole new land. So what, so if i need a key that those of us who are living peacefully could be on that top. And meanwhile, new jersey and Prime Minister visited neighboring tad, which said it was committed to supporting the country and the people who has become a T International issue with the russian president discussing the prices. What is malia and counterpart during a telephone conversation . But with most of the enemies former partners now imposing sweeping sanctions on the country. Both those are suffering from the economic and social impacts. I did that and i me, shutting down a bullet between Congress Like nigerian asia, is catastrophic, especially to us business people. My trade is usually a fact, its so well put into both the governments of nigeria and these yet to resolve this issue and prove that they were like brothers im very, very silent with the coo and cripples businesses. I cool fall African Leaders to show that regarding the sympathy to the citizens