On the people out of the same opportunity to experience fishing the way i did. And thats the saddest thing about this industry. Were bickering and arguing over microphones. You know what Council Meetings are in the press, who suffers the most is a little kid that might not have a chance to go fishing or pursue his dream. All these things i do with my son and taking away from me, and they dont see that thats not in their pie charts and their flow charts and their circle graphs for scientists and their science. But i do the, the, the, the, the small coastal fishing communities do we even need the small mom and pop operators . I think a lot of people are concerned about this. The white raging industry stories of the united states. On one side are people with deep roots in coastal fishing communities on the other, or the wealthy owners of industrial fishing operations, who use their political and economic power to dominate the industries. The losers in this battle were small scale fissures. The fish heavy oceans fishes, one of the most highly traded commodities on the planet. The average piece of fish changes hands about 7 times between the moment of capture and the moment gets tear place the sea Food Supply Chain is long and fragmented with little account of billing. The biggest losers in this broken system are the consumers who have no idea where their fish comes from, or often even what it really is safely. Labeling in general has been found. Unfortunately, to be full of miss labeling. The system is so tilted in favor of industrial fishing that even with patch that is brought in by small scale. Fissures is the value and there are minimal, profits are diminished. The industrialization of the seaford system is mimicking industrialization of our land base food system. Were seeing the squeeze and displacement of family fishermen and were seeing a collapse of infrastructure. And once that infrastructure is gone, it will never come back. This was the foundation, not just of a regional economy but of a way of life. And it was an envelope of what was best about america, how people that were willing to work hard and come here and struggle could make it better lives for their children. Were looking at a shift in coastal america, like we have never seen the. I started in 1983 this year with my father on the on that site on the south end. Or is that much my childhood . Thats all exactly the same as a kid does when it goes out in the lake and the canoe and his vision for a pan fish with a rod and reel. Is that kind of a feeling the school right there . The both fishing is one of the most sustainable methods of catching fish and its impact on Ocean Ecosystems is a fraction of that of its industrial counterparts. But its quickly becoming lost. Our various casper sac is one of the few jig fishermen west and cody j fishing is one of the oldest fishing is not the oldest vision in the world. That is essence, its a line flowing out in the water with a couple of, of some very selective. You get over a school and if its not the right fish, then you can quickly move you know, a lot of its just time in the tides, right. And and the winds see the fish and there were underneath the school. Raise it up a little bit. The past of the, you know, just to your office, the over 95 percent the rockfish coming out of alaska is all troll going to that means its called a large snaps with what they call rock hopper here. That drags on the bottom with this big tires that roll over rocks and knives tearing down pinnacles, tearing out for catching a lot of rockfish at ones foot, as well as other spaces kind of trying when its done in its worst form, has a leveling effect. And it has a tendency to really just sort of strip away everything thats there, the carls and find it for me, but also all the fish that are living in that particular area. Generally speaking, a smaller scale operations, well managed is going to have less Collateral Damage than a large trawler that is part of trying area. Over efficient you reached a critical level in International Waters in the late eightys with the use of a new generation of unimaginably long. Thats that stretched for miles. There were a 1000 boats fishing in the pacific with high seas drifting nets, 40000 miles of netting in the Pacific Ocean. Every night. They caught millions of birds, dolphins, wales, turtles. They caught everything. Thats why, by the ninetys, somebody like me would feel motivated to be involved in overhauling the whole thing. I got photographed and went to the new york times. It instantly blew up. It was in newspapers all around the world. The United Nations did finally ban those things from that fishing became a conservation issue. Not just of allocation issue. The you have a guy like tim ryder glasses and they were run an 80 miles to be able to catch the fish and a 30 foot vault. And question so many a night. So i went home wondering if this guy was coming back, these young guys and all the time this gets the fisheries going and then pushed out and pushed out. Whos one of the few guys as i see, puts in the extra effort he just loves it, and im glad he is going on big about some votes here and built from scratch. One piece you know, from a mold all the way to the finished product. The next step, once its done as well, launch the mode, see trial, it get the kinks, worked out and then go fishing boats like teams costs 2. 00 to 300000. 00. And every trippy takes costs around 500. 00 on a good day. You might land a few 1000. 00 worth of fish, but thats before he pays his crew. On a bad day, he might not even cover his expensive the news. Theres so many times of life for you. People dont believe in what theyre doing or they just go through the motions. Im passionate about when i do. Im proud of the fact that we have a minimal footprint where we go. I know if i hit the powerball for 40000000. 00 or a 1000000000. 00 or whatever it is, i do exact same thing im doing right now. Tomorrow the, the fishing is peaks and valleys. Pretty quick scan. Kind of like the sharp, i guess the in the 1990. So need for conservation was finally acknowledged. A new management of fisheries was established until been fishers were all racing to catch the same fish. At the same time. To address these issues, a style called catch share management was established and quickly to colt. Im basically a fan of catch shares in a certain configuration which is the person who fishes owns a share of the allowed catch. They dont own a share of the fish in the ocean, but when the catch limit is set, they own a share of that catch. What im not in favor of is you can only share the catch, and then you can sell that to somebody else or lease that to somebody else. And you sit back in a chair and make money off what somebody else is doing. Thats not an improvement on anything. I mean for 36. 00 foot boat, the employees for 2 or 3 people in the sun and then a couple of guys on short run and fish around. You can take a 25 percent hit on your profit margin. Really either breaking even of losing money, businesses like tens, he has to pay a landlord, essentially for those fish. Fishermen dont need landlords. They need to be able to go fishing for me and another fisherman. And i know for leasing out the flanders, hes getting roughly 175000 dollars this year. So thats pretty good. Anyone at home, thats making money and a lot of it, it has nothing to do with the business sucks. Catchers for kindly campbell. Some people did become fantastic stewards of, of those resources, but unfortunately, a lot of people just became landlords, and they started renting access to go to work to the people who catch fish for a living. It opens the door for the pocketed sorts, if you will, to be the next inheritors. The resource is a majority of the permits and quote, a can be bought by only a few companies. Then were looking at a wal mart situation on the ocean. Why dont you just give us the names of the 5 or 7 guys on, especially all of this market, it is going in the private hands. And i think overtime the next logical inheritors of this resource are going to be corporations. For those who are are fed up. Weve had enough with policies designed to consolidate policies designed to privatize design to squeeze out or independent fishermen to join mean walking out. Were going to walk in and tell the public and sign of life. And whats been happening here. They voted today to allow for 7 entities to control this whole fishery. That type of consolidation, that type of concentration of ownership. Its kurtz or local economies that depend on these working waterfront and we need to go up the chain. We need to have accountability in this process. And this isnt working. And theres a select few people at the top that are making all the money. And theyre making the rules and benefits themselves. The i look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except were so shorter is that conflict with the 1st law show alignment of the patient. We should be very careful about visual intelligence at the point, obviously, is to create a trust rather than fit the various. I mean, with the Artificial Intelligence we have summoning the theme in the robot must protect his phone, existence was on the spelling. Hes still working through the journey of developing an identity, a national identity. Theres a, you know, we talked earlier about the vibrancy and the dynamics of the media will all sorts of use and narratives have a chance to, to face and come to the for also has been down side in the everything is up for debate. Nothing is agreed on the as soon as 2016 numerous monuments, the soviet soldiers in poland, ukraine and the Baltic States have been destroyed. All vandalized fish their stuff by mistake with the within. Yeah. Unless or even some of us could ask if i really think so thats the most on whether its expressed room was the thing in the Police Government denies the rule of soviet soldiers in the victory of a naziism. And is it raising historical memories of world war 2 is the 40 because when you order, although it did seem the non supervision is the trustees would remain, thinks in peoples consciousness forever. But as long as russell phobia is profitable and brings dividends, you are willing to have a to rewrite the cost. Yes, it does take up the provides that i need to see because it looks like so i need to be at the privatization came about for how that at that point i was only in my mid twenties. I didnt really see it as a threat. I figured, yeah, well make the fisheries a for and there are always any guys to catch it. So yeah, maybe its a good thing. I didnt know here too. After that, i could not get a job. So i was basically shut out of the hell that fishery, that really was the beginning of the end for the happy days and the small boat fleet, and kodiak. This is basically the waterfront of code. Yeah. All the way down there is the boat yard for small boats. And over there is the rest of the cannery row where you see the remaining processors mostly all large corporate entities. Things that really become consolidated the afternoon. And various caspar that a local fisherman home for about kodiak. Im also a president of the alaska jake association, who im representing today. We do not support any new Management Program in the gulf of alaska trial sector, which monetize us the fishery resources. The future of our Fishing Community depends on access the fishery resource. Please maintain opportunity for the next generation of fishermen. Thank you. Thank you. There is the fishery management is the responsibility of Regional Councils across the united states. Some have chosen not to use the catch air system and seek other solutions for conservation management. This is the port of port orford. Its one of the very few. Dolly ports they call them where youre both stay on trailers and youre actually lifted in by crane into the open ocean. The is how we do it. Its pretty intense. One of the most unique things about port orford is were restricted in boat size, 40 feet and under 50 ton and under everybody has different opinions and theyre independent of course. But because we have so much in common, what benefits need benefits . My brother, the biggest threat we have against the small boat community, is kind of multi faceted, the consolidation of quota, and the corporate mindset that wants to get the fish for nothing. It doesnt really take into account the needs of a small community. So this is why i bought this as the gold and i, if the plan is over time to have 10 big boats on the west coast that catch 95 percent of the sea food. You know, i mean, that seems extreme, but its not out of the question. The Community Port offered pretty unique. The populations 1200 between the Timber Industry and fishing. Thats what its all been about around here. This is the furthest west Incorporated Town in the continental 40. And then you buy a boat and you go further west. The, everybody is of the light version and we all use the same type of gear. It prevents us all from growing into the other sectors of control and towing that the port orford fleet is limited to 40 votes or restricted in their size and equipment. They carry with each boat holding a valuable fishing current in the permit system. The permits are tied to the boat. If you dont have somebody to pass that on to in your family, you have to sell it in order to get the money. You need to make a 3 year goal in years. The permits do leave out of 4 offered its less revenue for the whole town. Every facet of business in this town is affected solely by our fish. We land between 4. 00 and 5000000. 00 worth of seafood here in port offers. I mean, its a big dam deal if that goes away, it will just leave the place dry. So it really has a lot to do with the health and wellness of the community to be able to have access to the fiche. Were right here. I mean, were looking at some of the richest grounds in the world. Could you imagine not having access to that for a community. See me or the former mayor of Saint Paul Island lives in a communal are 400 people solely dependent on fish. Declining, halibut stocks has meant that native fishers have had to reduce their cash in the interest of maintaining the fish population. Right now i have probably 3 strings. Im a little, im a little frustrated, right. But the weve got a couple of good size like right now. So this is kind of the day we want to have right here the over the years, seattle base 12th food has been operating in the bearings. See right in sims, backyard, us catch shares of halibut and alaska are limited to hooked in line fishers. So when these trawlers accidentally catch how the wind fishing for other species, theyre forced to throw the fish back 5 and theyre usually dead. These unintentionally cost fish are known as by catch. There should be no way we should be shut down because we live right here and that everybody else that comes out of wherever they come from in america is going to be able to come up here and dish. No, no, right. The see, the bycatch is accounting for almost all of whats available to be taken of the halibut stock. These are industrial, but its are distant water boats to fully prosecute their history and the most economical way to go out there, set their nets, do on toes and just drove inside what they are allowed to keep the cost to them of during those how better of the size just costs doing business. Thanks for come in, say one of the really great things about this bycatch issue is it unites groups because its really important to everybody that cares about the how that resource linda bank. And the fisher herself is the director of the alaska long lines fishermans association. In the early ninetys, she lived the 5 in which local communities successfully band trolling in Southeast Alaska. You had stuff in here, fisherman, proud ocean leaving waste in wake despite hunger. Hows that for his line . The fisherman of Southeast Alaska had a long term concern about trolling. Having watched the 4 inflates, operate right off our coast and huge decline and the ecosystem and the rakfish and the black had and how of it. So this is the line of their catch per unit effort. So how much they were catching per toe when they were trolling for this species of rockfish co Pacific Ocean perch. And then this is what was happening to the abundance of that fish. As a big part of our concern in the early ninetys, a u. S. Trawler came through here, then took enough rock fish as bycatch to close down one of our local fisheries. Or fishermen came to me and said if you can do one thing for Southeast Alaska and will be, you know, to close this area to drawing towards co, wrangell g. You know, every community and se, passed a resolution in support of the closure and submitted them all with the council. It was a very emotion packed time. We were pretty inflammatory and no surprise people thought we were a little overboard with what we said. There was a huge pushback from National MarineFisheries Service and from the travel industry i know easily at the time was sure that with this much support from communities and small but freshman, the council would do the right thing. It took another 5 years before they took action to close trolling. It was the largest troll band in the world at that time. It was a huge grass roots effort started by the fisherman, but it ended up involving everybody from the bottom to the top. The is a 4 surface gets lost in the shuffle. Where of, you know, again its a 100000 pounds of fish. Quality doesnt matter. Ive been told that by the buyers why are you going to pay top dollar for my fish when you can buy Something Else . And just label it whatever the for over a century the us as celebrated the efficiency in affordability of an industrial system that processes and preserve massive amounts of food for consumers thats included in today. Theres an intricate International Supply chain. The provides us with cheap fish, but the costs to the oceans, the fish, the small scale fissures and the consumer, or staggering. Theres more than one good way to treat a fit. The main problem with the, with seaFood Supply Chain is set up right now is that since that changes hands so many times, every time it changes hands a little bit of value is lost for the fisherman, the cleaning of the fish, but why it keeps the flashlights in clean, thanks a lot Higher Quality product. Prior to going out on the lander, i was doing work creating a mobile app, trying to connect people with local se, food options. And during that time working on that project and realize there needed to be more options and it coincided perfectly with meeting time and session on the phone. The. This is not typical in the industry where the captain does a lot of delivering. And the captain is a fish car to its really sad to think about this area, having relied upon their fisheries. And with a lot of the important sea food, were kind of moving that new fish mongers, our ideas directly selling fish throughout new englands kind of re establish what new England Seafood really is. We want to have the ability to have a fish on our customers plate that was swimming around 10 hours ago, which we can do cod sustainably direct market approach. It has this differences are gonna walk in with a bunch of fish off the boat. Were not going to have suit and tie and fancy delivery chines the of the im a film director, ive written many strips during my career, but i got really curious. 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