Brings the old bankruptcies and invitation extended the president pollutant to visit the country as being accepted. Meanwhile, leading members of ukraines infamous new nazi i was off regimented amongst youre going back on the bustle field after being released from detention feeling. Turkey in violation of an agreement between i pressed on, most of the problem must go to the world. This is our to pleasure, and i hope your company today im, you know, new we begin the, our with development surrounding nice year defense chiefs from the west African Regional block. It cool was our meeting in neighboring nigeria to discuss the situation in the crew head country while reserving the possibility of resorting to force last week. They issued on the ultimate, some demanding nice year as well as the president being reinstated within 7 days. But the rebels there have so far not responded to the u. N. As in doors, the eco was groupings actions. We are supporting. Yeah. What the add, the order process is conducted by airports. And this will be the line, the decision alpha use force if necessary. Its, its not the you and the address. Its uh, uh it was the decision of abuse. Good put that there was want me to do the transitional governments of working a fast. So and molly won, that any military intervention against new share would be tantamount to a declaration of war against working fast. So and molly denounced the persistence of this region organizations and imposing sanctions that aggravated the suffering of the people and jeopardize the spirit of pan african as well as what certain percentage of students are made to bring health said prison, buzz them back to power money and book, you know, fossil of flexing their military muskets, freight thing inclusion of war, if thing spider allowed self control. And when it cool was high, totally decided to easily use your full draft extinction. Were, for example, of a countries financial accounts and the closure of land and at borders book, you know, money engineer. All countries lead by leaders that came to power of to cool on heading to this to as what google and by my corporal mise retaliate against. Anyone who attracts me. Yeah, i mean chief of nigeria as to that shes waiting for the be sure it very cryptic constitution. Weve a key question. We leave it to face after the deadline to is that 1st started very about creation of race. It isnt in these yet. I strongly recommended by look at the face very slowly visual, assuming for as we international that credit is on for and as products ways and we will see what good as well, some developments today eco, was sent a piece delegation tonight here to talk with rebels. This witness, they saying they will use military force only as a last resort. The alliance has a history of involvement and crises impacting member nations of the 7 cases in the past 3 decades. Ive received the u. Ns endorsement with peace accord, signed during those missions. Seldom last thing we heard from west african locals who shared their views on the sanctions imposed on last year. And the earlier threats of military intervention. Dont this up . We think these v, i think thats everywhere. There are problems at home in the west, even in front, the have problems, but you guys, the dont cable the problems. They only brought the coast always on channels all over the world as well suffering with us to work, to find solutions to get out of it. If they dont have any solutions to offer us, they should let us evolve with our solutions. Let them Work Together with us here and find a favorable outcome bone for most a song. So to me, these sanctions are really illegal, in my opinion. Its necessary to go through negotiations to have an exchange with the rebels in order to be able to agree otherwise. The sanctions are not up to the rebels, but they take the sanctions as against the population. We can see it is up to the population because they are the majority who will be most affected by the sanction. Some of the 3 be in good idea of the to the police sanctions each time. There is an interruption by the army in the democratic process. This situation shows very well that the cove us heads of states do not defend the interest of the african people. Only their own interests. While a journalist we spoke to the covers of agencies, a potential intervention raises a lot of questions over intent of the west African Economic block, looked increasingly willing to take up on right now. We understand that theres a meeting going on and off the job with. Im on the airport, i sound familiar to. Ready had career expect invited me, you know, who in the share wouldnt be in full course. And also well see what some, some of the food, dieties, plumbing out. Or do you mean by the book you in a past. So, you know, back in these are and st. Broadening any attempt to be introduced as far as the interventions of foreign military. You can be sure i would also, now, for our main pad, you know, acro, as, or, you know, as a foreign or the west in support. Are trying to declare a war. This is not the 1st time, think de decide f west would be intervening and member functions that have same pools. Basically, experts are saying that theres something obviously different about the school because for us is, is willing to introduce for us. I think around 5 countries in the region. So air force members who are now lead the countries that are now led by the military at 888. We will not be surprising to see that these countries wants to come together. These countries want to support each other, you know, and um, this is actually boring it out for you then sees house of what i said, i called elisha, what i said was, im at bro, in at the western center man. So we dont know what might happen in the coming days, but what we do know is that there is a spence of supports. Theres the stance of sleep at each with. Im for the to florida, as you know, thousands of people saying that these are people we identify with them. We want them to carry on with what they have spotted. Molly burkina faso in guinea or among nigeria, new leadership, supporters. All of them incidentally have been suspended from africa was the union. Additionally introduced sanctions against last year including trouble have severe economic restrictions. While nigeria has also reportedly disconnected a high voltage line, the car is electricity to nice year. In another aspect of all this, europeans are as vast to with thing at foreign and nationals from the country. France has been there lifting hundreds of french and e. You citizens the 1st flight left on tuesday evening and other European Countries followed suit. Afterward, spain is referring to, if i could get more than 70 people. The police also organizing we pick creation measures several dozen to tell him how already arrived in room by military plane, along with americans and other non european citizens. The evacuation efforts come just dates after hundreds of people gathered in the west african countries capital to call for leadership change. The French Embassy was attacked by protesters reset fires and smashed windows. Horace in turn has threatened niger with retaliation if any harm comes to its citizens, or if its national interest, including at uranium extraction projects, conducted by french fuel companies are affected. Meanwhile nigerians jumped in on the streets, the upfront must leave the nation and that the former colonial power is the main cause of their suffering while it made the rise of the french sentiment in west africa. Present mccall recently claim the power should show more quote per phone. She military in dealing with the confident or but that comment flies in the face of his own public mark. 3 of the brick, you know, fossil president , during your visit to the country back in 2017, sometimes you speak to me as a friends were still a colonial power, but i dont want to deal with the power supply in the universities in burkina fast. So thats his job, thats the job of the board, can not be president. So on the other hand, i reassure you, oh, whats this . Hes going away, stay there. Maybe hes gone to fix the air conditioning as well. And i forget focused security on the list earlier told us he believes parse is so eager to maintain that dominant position in nice year. It may encourage neighboring countries to intervene militarily. This is a big loss to the french and across the us. And i think in countries that out the rest of the lots in the country, you know, affect the eagles. So i didnt point the options back to the citizens. Theres no denying that drugs know seen the french citizen hadnt been taught by anyone. No, joseph isnt, has the website right . It tries to have 7 level one to see what they would do. Do what i say is travis, relying on other countries. Find is the reason that he is 1132000 the last 2 weeks. You know, they would need the ability to tell him. But that was a moment to west africa. Countries find to themselves someone. It is inc. Products, and it will be very dangerous speech g. So while the situation in nature and makes headlines across the globe cell observer say that this is just another coo and an african state for the defense of global significance with the nation becoming a new from to a modern and colon for a website or to dot com jobs deeper is the president of russia enter key. I have held a telephone call discussing a range of issues, agreeing on a visit by president clinton to i correct in the near future, or to correspond. And yes, and that can, can tell us more based on the telephone conversation that the 2 leaders held. We know that they discussed a number of important issues. First and foremost, they discuss the prospects to further develop economic and trade ties, as well as the implementation of joints strategic cooperation in the energy sector. But most importantly was the grange of the black Sea Initiative that was broken by the United Nations entered to, to ensure that the ukrainian or russian grain and fertilizer exports could essentially be effectively implemented and make its way into the global markets. But based on the meeting, we do understand that the crumbling is very adamant and it stands in the words of the sports person for the crime and demands of the pest of sad that. And i quote that we have said this over a 100 times referring to russias concerns, concerns that essentially translate to the fact that as part of the deal, ukraine exports were supposed to be guaranteed, as was well shows. And based on what the western block has settled for the last year, is that there were no sections placed on russian exports of grain and fertilizers. However, the concern is that the kremlin chairs is that there was sanctions placed against the financial and logistic institutions. Effectively preventing the exports in the 1st place and this has been a concern over the last year. We do remember that the russian president walked away from the table on could it wasnt a position to convince the russian leader to come back into the fold. Essentially, implementing the blame deal, but what were looking at right now is a firm stance. The United States has also issued a statement on tuesday. Its sort of that we must 1st ensure that russia comes back into the full before we can discuss what the concerns are. And how essentially they can move forward. But the reality is that right now on color isnt a type position, because the kremlin is automated at stance. That is, concerns must be met before it comes back into the fold. And based on the meeting between the 2 leaders, the turkish president and the russian president have agreed to continue communications and meetings to the church. Aside being a little bit more optimistic and what going to host the russian president sometime later this month in august. Whereas the russian side is a little bit more cautious in the sense that it says that we have agreed on a number of communications and agreements. But the possibility not so certain, of course, that the possibility of a meeting later this month indicating that as much as concerns will affectively have to be met before the possibility of the continuation can even be discussed. The commanders of ukrainians victorious, knew nothing else of regiment to recently returned to key foster being released by tra tia of lights, theyre going back on the front lines. So i was off was formed back in 2014. Just to give you a background here as a, as part of military unit of extreme right wing volunteers in ukraine, who then took part in the metric track done on separate tests in the boss who had voted are the people in general had voted for independence from the cooling post government in t f. As off members have been accused of committing multiple war crimes against civilians inmate them yet. Um 2 counts with publix. As up troops took up arms once more last year, after the start of rushes, military operation within 2000 members, surrendered to the Russian Military. After the battle of mario bolt, their commanders were later transferred to, to kill as part of a prisoner swap deal between russia and ukraine. The im great, help mediate the turkish president pledge to keep the ass off officers detained in his country until the end of the electric conflict, but unexpectedly allowed them all to go back to kiev last month. But for more than that, i am joined by a group of guest welcome us to the program that speak to laurie joseph, former c i. A story is also ceo of the Berg AssociatesRisk Assessment group. We speak to to colonel sewell, todd holly, a former service, been in the, i guess the they are forced. Youre both set. Welcome to the program curled. Can we start with you . When you saw that, that the president or the one decided to go back on his agreement with the russian leader regarding the as off fighters. How did you, how did you take that . Did you expect to happen . Its, its all part of, of war and conflict, or was it something that took you by surprise . Me frankly speaking i was taken by surprise that i had a zoomed of 5 to present the gun and, and a few to have close relations. Im probably under gun the stick to his commitment of rejecting these prisoners until the end of the conflict happened and say he was led by a what do you call a liberal, smoky soul of being and then gaining an entry into the European Union by digging this extreme step. So there is of a surprise, but the direction that i think was for property this the same point to you at laurie, we know that turkey at puts its own interest 1st. We know that sometimes it does dealings but one country and then perhaps to, you know, its always been part of a bank for, is andras thoughts to put it 1st wherever they the they, the polls lie off to that. So may it be. But how did you feel because its something very significant, something very dear to rushing here because the as off battalion, of course, when it comes to their neo nazi roots and the amount of russians, lots of salvi as we lost their lives in the 2nd world war the great patriotic war. Its a big issue here. Yeah, no, i understand. We saw when i think the, the biggest outcome of this was the trial prior to one betrayed is board. Does a lot of reporting and will not be trusted. And probably should have been trusted in the 1st place, but the release of the story doesnt change a thing tactically or strategically on the ground. Remember, these 3 fought against the detection. The outputs, a battalion had failed, they got beacon, they were defeated. So the, its not like they have some great military prowess, and the hurdle was sending them back to the prospect of having to go into the front lives. Its almost like putting a death sentence on because odds are theyre going to be killed. Colonel holly, how do you think russia will respond to the news that theyre going back in the front line . Well, and frankly speaking, it is no longer speculation. Russia has that, that indicated, and the most part is and an anger because uh, it feels betrayed on the app in my, i totally agree with the c. I analysts, the problem was the guy and those, but to this is a big trend and it should not have taken place. But i personally think like a very, as the russians have declared the these, this group as terrorist and they are uh, according to the quotes which ive heard that not only that theyre, its, uh, but uh, they are extreme like groups who believe invites to pregnancy and i dont think theyre going to get the results which the opinions are hoping for. Laurie a. Can we delve a little bit further into perhaps the, the, the dealings that were done between the ukranian and turkish liter hygiene. Its think mr. Zalesky was able to get the, the turkish president to agree to release at these prisoners is, is it something that turkey wanted to, to show in front of the world that, you know, were the great mediator and you know, we can do this. We, weve, weve got the strength to be able to, to affect the conflict or does it go beyond the do i have to, i think it actually goes a little bit beyond that to remember the grain deal was still, at least for america, was perspective a possibility the although russia, a lot of recruiting and start a lot better off, has made it very clear that russia was going to pull out of this deal because the west was not fulfilling its obligations. But, you know, heres our, the wall. Im thinking that he could play the great broker. He also used that the is the shakedown joe biden, to get some, at least concessions on paper from buying that invite. And once we return to washington, i immediately betrayed air to one. So, you know, its a, its a whole on trustworthy crew. I always look at these situations and does this actually change anything in the outcome, momentum or direction of the war . And the answer to that is, no. It doesnt change the thing that these 3 guys from ass off are just going to be more cannon fodder. But colonel, how he does it, perhaps change the standing of president or the one as a broker or a somebody involved right now, getting more stature globally. And if you do a deal and its renee done to a degree, how does that affect his reputation Going Forward . It was great, it has had his credibility pretty badly because uh he, yes, he may have projected himself as a last mediator but to anything on his bud to boot and expose him. That this is a person who may have the state, your office trace man, but unfortunately internationally now has been looked upon as somebody who does not stick to his blood and the that i think i mentioned before him laurie, ill actually give this point the both, but but lori, its just interesting, in the actual release of these as of fighters, theyre being hurled it as heroes blocking you, train your though theyre being held up as, as people to be loaded and applauded is not assigned perhaps of how the conflict is going. That you almost have to scrape the bottle of the bottle to, to, to get a sense of celebration here. You know, these men were taken back on the president ial plane and the work, whereas months ago, a few years ago just need the extra point. They were co new nazis in europe, but know their, their freedom fighters. Interesting how it develops. Yeah. Yeah. Anytime you have to celebrate neo nazis as a way to say that youre doing well thats assigned that youre in real trouble. Yeah, i agree with everything that colonel said previously about the trail over to one. This, this is blowing up in the face. Ukraine is increasingly desperate. And were seeing that by drawing to attempt to do, you know, few tile dropped drones strikes and la scale. The enormous losses are suffering on the battlefield. So this, i get these 3 guys are nothing burger, but they are damaging to air to one. Me a similar point to the colonel then why do you think zalinski negotiated their release in the 1st place and decided to send them back to fight . What was it so that they could be celebrated in it like that . And indeed, you see he is a desperate, hes a flashing for straws. And this was a chance to get 3 guys, you know, and brought them up as a heroes, right . As his phone people, they know that they are not heroes. And as maya my us right, and just to point it out, there are, these fellows may end up actually big and theyre being exposed as non heroes rather than being processed in a greater than life. So the, using the fortunate on perhaps even more than enough current like games, false hope, perhaps, to, to ukrainians putting, you know, putting their hopes on these people coming back on, on the, on helping sway the fight against russia. Because as most observers say thats not going to happen. Yeah, indeed. And that, that, that just shows the destination of the opinions and im afraid theres going to back by a very bad. Yeah. Laurie, thats the point, is that the fighting to the lobby is rainy and thats, you know, weve seen it more and more these last few months, but, you know, as long as its not somebody else dying, its ok. Of the western military leaders. I really think should be charged with more crimes because they were monitoring rushers construction, the sort of beacon lines, the defensive lines in the south. They saw it. So over a 3 or 4 month period, at no time in that period, did ukrainians make any effort whatsoever to try to destroy the construction and pete the construction, they allowed it to go on. And then the western military leaders know that without calm, bad air, without mobile artillery, without mobile air defense, any ground or offensive is going to fail. And thats exactly what has happened and 20. 00 to 30000. 00 ukrainian soldiers are debt in a 2 month period. Its just, its a horrific catastrophic loss and theyre sending these met on a suicide mission. There needs to be an accountability and my view. Im currently considering the way things have turned out how likely is this to affect similar prison or prisoner of war Exchange Agreements in the future . Oh, im president of exchange, you see is an accepted knob. Now that should have a convention, but uh, you know, uh, getting people like, uh that these 3 as of the generals. Its not going to use a change the character before. If anything is printable against them and the guess on a human, its good again, for point of view, i really think people is fine. But as far as the end result, ill do more expense. Im. Im afraid theyre still going to have any bidding, but say what, if anything, it will be negative. Laurie, what do you think then about the exchange of prisoners of war in general, and its perhaps effect on the morale of disorders on the opposing side. Well, i think for the russian soldiers coming home, its a release, i think, for the ukraine supreme set back, its a bit of a terror because the odds are there going to be scoop dried back up and send back to the front with no respite. The because of the manpower shortage is on your training in front but, but it shows that at least on that level, Ukrainian Military and the Russian Military are communicating. They are negotiating and that may ultimately be the salvation for ukraine. And this is that at some point the generals were come to realize that they are just being used as a proxy for the west and without any regard for their life or their welfare. And that they may decide to stand up and take matters into their own hands to take control of ukraine to serve ukrainian interest, not the interest of nato and colonel. I cant help thinking about the, the, the sending hannibal doctrine that these really army had in place for many years. Basically, meaning of the dead soldiers is better than an imprisoned one. M. Is that what were seeing here, essentially, im afraid it could be true. It could be true because uh, 8 of these 2 channels and then theyre going to end up into serious trouble because 1st of all, theyre not going to live up to the reputation or also the balloon that has been created, offering all day and being, you know, great fighters, especially to be at the break and they are going to be exposed. So perhaps the, i do agree with you a final point then to both the laurie you 1st, what do you think will be the future of the as of regiment . Theyre going to be destroyed. Itd be that something russians and watches. Its not gonna allow them to continue to live carlo. Yeah, im afraid that they are in the grand up in disaster and this disaster is looming and, and they will be the same as well. We truly appreciate your time as always jensens, thank you for coming on the program and sharing your views with us, laurie adults and former c i. A analysts on criminal suits on, holly retired pakistani or force service man, thank you both. Thank you. Ok. 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