secretary saying it's business as usual people with those nations. human rights. in the program from today welcome to moscow and to our team my names you know neal good to have your company. russia colditz u.s. ambassador to moscow to discuss future diplomatic ties with washington it's in response to a t.v. interview where president biden agreed when questioned the russian leader vladimir putin is a killer my colleagues former. talk through that statement and more from what was said in the. well this isn't just strong this is very serious this doesn't look just like an insult not just like a groundbreaking phrase because in the diplomatic sense really this could potentially be a catastrophe for u.s. russia relations but it's also very important to look at the actual wording to look at how joe biden said this in one context so it wasn't actually his own phrase it was a response to a question from a journalist so you know vladimir putin you think he's a killer. or do so what price must he pay for pray she's going to pay will you'll see shortly it was originally an escalation from the journalists he put that question out directly using the world the word sorry killer and as you can see the u.s. media is at it again this is what they want to do they don't want vague phrases about the russian leaders they want labels and no matter who that is in the oval office they wanted from donald trump now they want it from joe biden but at this point it is absolutely clue crucial to understand what the kremlin's response is going to be what if president putin and his team decide that the u.s. leader crossed the line by making this personal insult what if they choose not to turn a blind eye what if this the rails the entire prospect of a mean thing between the russian and u.s. leaders because to be honestly i don't remember any other u.s. the george w. bush bronco bamma donald trump making that kind of statement against vladimir putin so this is definitely unprecedented initially in the sort of weeks of biden's relationship there was a long conversation was in there between biden and peyton well nobody expected mush . improvement to be fair with the arrival of joe biden but they're always there's always hope when the handover in the white house many they'll predicted that things could even get worse with a democrat president and charge but for a while we weren't hearing much about russian meddling things like russian hackers like you were saying at least there was a phone conversation between the 2 joe biden and vladimir putin and the 2 decided to leave the new start treaty in place was he paying the price for i mean i haven't really gone into details have they about the accusations the reports of meddling in the reports that he's a killer but in terms of substantiate he was true as a journalist this would probably be the 1st thing that i asked joe biden why exactly is latimer putin a killer and what is he going to pay the price for so apparently this is also something that has to do with the latest u.s. intelligence report where it's said that vladimir putin was overseeing another meddling scheme and we're not talking about the 26th election we're talking about the latest u.s. presidential election says that russian president putin authorized a range of russian government organizations conducted influence operations aimed at denigrating president biden's candidacy and the democratic policy supporting former president trump undermining public confidence in the electoral process and exacerbating satiate political divisions in the u.s. what russia wants to get as usual is proof and explanation how russia meddled how did the u.s. intelligence community come to that conclusion so here's a statement from the russian embassy in america. the documents prepared by the u.s. intelligence community is another set of groundless accusations against our country of interfering in american internal political processes washington continues to practice megaphone diplomacy with the main goal to maintain a negative image of russia so again the question is what's next what the reaction from the quantum level is going to be we're definitely waiting for that and also we are looking at potential sanctions because from several sources in the white house it's been reported that they're saying that a new round of punishment against russia could be on the way the department of commerce is committed to prevent in russia from accessing sensitive u.s. technology that might be diverted to its mind chemical weapons activities by deploying illegal nor agence against dissidents both inside and outside its borders the russian government has acted in flagrant violation of its commitments under the chemical weapons convention and has directly put its own citizens and those of other countries at mortal risk so could this be a coincidence these statements by joe biden and that also the intelligence report we will find out possibly in the next hours maybe in the next few days ok yes we spoke to think harsh rhetoric even of the kind of extreme words used by joe biden has now become the norm when it comes to russia. of course i think it's a dangerous game but it's groundhog day isn't it is like this all the time trump was a brief respite from it because he didn't say things like that against russia instead he turned his hostility towards china where we know that biden is pro chinese and all the old anti russia hands like sucky in the who's now of course the white house spokesman a spokes person or or victoria nuland from the 24000 ukraine crises all these people have been bought straight back in so so the dangerous game which yes it biden is playing these people have been playing it for years and they intend to carry on playing it for years to come for as long as they can there is no end in sight to this but mr biden is very careful in everything he said he said one and the other you know not to close these options and the doors president but didn't mention the fact that he talked for a long time to president putin in january they know each other and so you know this is you need to be to dance and. they know each other well they still want both of them to denuclearize the plantain and to reduce the nuclear risk which is very evident to everybody everywhere and so that's a good point if they go further there will be thinner careful about oil about we need to bow to you not that they don't want to get involved into a. war off of sanctions that go too far in terms of economics they still want to sell to russia and to to buy things from russia so it will only be probably just to kill a sions you know individuals that will be punished. the e.u. commission has proposed to create a digital green certificate that would allow european citizens who have been vaccinated against covert to travel across the block without having to quarantine on arrival of a controversial move comes following pressure from tourism reliance states are to short to do been ski picks up the story. the european commission outlining on monday that its member states need to look at a common approach now to easing restrictions put in place by the kovac 19 pandemic this is going to come in the sense of a framework which will look at things such as vaccination tests and also look at those who've been able to recover from the virus this is going to come in the form of a digital green certificate and the idea is to reestablish the freedom of movement across the block that is seems a fundamental right here in europe this is what the european commission president. had to say with this digital certificate to health member states reinstate the freedom of movement in a safe responsible and trusted manner we've told that the data will be protected so there will be security around that but countries will be able to collect information all those who are coming into the territory this proof will then be waiver restrictions restrictions such as quarantine testing the currently in place but those restrictions will only be obligatory for that seems they've already been approved by may when this comes into force but as we know many european countries have decided to open all the routes because of the slow vaccine rollout hey and they are using the chinese vaccine and also the russian vaccine noise are of which have yet been approved in the now we're told that it will be up to individual states whether they would accept vaccines from countries all from areas that have companies that haven't yet. approved. the vaccine we know that that is currently. in medicals agency poor approval one of the commission's she's talking at a press conference on wednesday this is here in britain had this to say about the vaccine. we've got science because if. we don't have a reason to talk about the way. to. make sure the truth. to have an agreement we see vaccines have already provoked a lot of skepticism here within the e.u. we also know that there's been a lot of grumbles about the idea of this sort of. digital significant from many countries it was pushed by countries who really rely on tourism ads in the mix there is the current question over the astra zeneca vaccine as we know the european medical agency is due to rule on thursday whether that vaccine is safe or not if it decided that the extras and make a vaccine could be used in the future that possibly could raise a question about those individuals who've already had the shot and whether then they would be able to participate in this vaccine at this digital green pass all nor so really still a lot of questions to be asked and said before this digital green pass comes into force around mid june. i spoke to a lawyer earlier who say europe may be rushing too far ahead with its vaccine certificate travel plans. this digital green city if you get looks like the european union countries because in fact what we have to wonder are so many questions 1st isn't it too soon to propose kind passport like that because we have no distance to see it the vaccines are fine against the new values so they want to set up these passport was no answer from the cent if you question 1st in fact it's to kill me should we like to to impose this kind of vaccination passport and ask any question to the people of the 27 countries making these european unity is your opinion this is one it's a very important question of our low our rights and is not is it not. in that tent to our freedom of movement of 4444 the european citizens millions of britons in need of hospital treatment have been forced to wait for months due to the covert crisis and u.k. hospitals and i wonder if they may have to cut more services unless additional funding is made available. new data reveals for the half 1000000 people who are on n.h.s. waiting lists at the end of january that is the highest number since records began in 2007 more than 300000 have already waited a year or more to start their treatment in hospital gregory metcalf he's one of the patients his surgery date keeps being pushed back. i'm very much does it kill pain because obviously and if even when sure the dislocation is very serious injury on page bill so to have gone through so many like even more so now probably so the 40 or 50 times is very physically painful but i was very shocked as well to find out about the surgeries would be called hope these types of all types are not life threatening i really don't know of a donor who's asked asked the employees of us. local authorities or the hospital but nobody seems to know i feel like the government needs to get more than the pocket. just they obviously need lots of money for the people on waiting lists for the surgeries some are specifically meaning covert patients some more talking about people like myself that are waiting surgeries and all kinds of medical 'd attention surgeries that what we've got in them at the moment well n.h.s. management say's hospitals need $8000000000.00 pounds of additional funding to cover day to day running costs without that hefty influx the health service may have to further postpone non-life threatening operations however an n.h.s. doctor told us why further delays will lead to unnecessary suffering and even death . who knows how much they're spending they say it's something like 27000000000 on the on the testing which many people think in many cases it's just money that's not not being spent wisely and we have to catch up with the medical issues i mean the keeper is a personal issue i have a knee problem from a long term injury and my my operation. suspended at the moment is much to catch up on a low people say well these are not life threatening in many cases a lot of the things that are being postponed are not immediately life threatening but if you're not detecting cancers if you're not having these operations they become life threatening down the line we have less than any. relation i think this is true of most any other western european country. and that's one of the reasons why we had such a disaster at the start of 2 crisis you know when the n.h.s. started it was the world's 1st sort of pay for health service return at the. point of contact and that was the. thing and most people want to see that continued much as possible the reality is it hasn't kept pace and another reality is that people are just kind of thought it's all ok because it's never really broken like this before i mean now the cracks definitely are exposed and something really has to be done i think the u.s. department of health admits to pressuring brazil not to adopt russia's covert vaccine all in the name of american safety and security that story and were few after the shortest to predict. is your media a reflection of reality. in a world transformed. what will make you feel safe. isolation community. are you going the right way or are you being led. by. what is true what's his face. in the world corrupted you need to descend. to join us in the depths. aura maybe in the shallowness. join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. 19 minutes into the program welcome back britain's foreign secretary don't like rob is under scrutiny after a leaked audio recording revealed him saying the u.k. should strike trade deals with nations even if they have low human rights standards shani edwards has been looking deeper into the story. united kingdom is apparently facing its greatest threat since the cold war that is in calling to the foreign secretary dominic roth who is now warning the britain is heading towards a decades where and which democracy is in retreat apparently because upcoming economic powers like that of china are increasing its global dominance in the world in fact it seems as though the united kingdom's own position in the international world order is now under threat democracy is in retreat. this decade the combined g.d.p. of or to critic regimes is expected to exceed the combined g.d.p. of the world's democracy now the government has been accused of saying one thing and doing another and that comes as a leaked all to fall was revealed to the public in the public domain where in which the foreign secretary could be heard saying that the u.k. should actually do trade deals with countries that have a huge track record of human rights abuses i believe we ought to be trading liberally around the world if we restrict it to countries with the european convention on human rights level standards of human rights we're not going to do many trade deals with the growth markets of the future to contextualize all of this of course the united kingdom's place in the well it has long been defined by its relationship with america and indeed a europe of course now we are in a post britain so the united kingdom is having to look past europe further afield into other areas of the globe especially when it comes to things like trade it's all part of the u.k.'s mission to project a global britain but with the foreign secretary dominic robb admitting that trading prospects actually could be done with the so-called enemies human rights groups are now hitting back accusing the government of gross hypocrisy this apparent willingness to sacrifice human rights at the altar of trade is shocking but certainly unsurprising it fits a depression pattern on human rights from these government trade is obviously important to all nations but the foreign secretary shouldn't be thrown human rights defenders to the wharf like this while the government has actually defended dominic robb's comments saying that this leaked order far was actually clipped and actually distorted the truth but we've also heard from the opposition party the labor party hitting out saying that dominic rob's comments behind closed doors actually completely undermined their public statements at the same time but it's not just dominic rob who has been accused long before of turning a blind eye to human rights abuses but saying something else publicly. we made good on our pledge bringing to force the united kingdom's 1st thomas human rights sanctions regime which gives us the power to impose sanctions on the on those involved in the very worst human rights abuses right around the world so when it comes to the big security and human rights challenges of our time we need this our united nations to forge a bold new multilateralism so when it comes to championing human rights across the world it seems like the united kingdom can talk the talk but can't quite walk the walk but this week it really does feel as though britain is going through some sort of existential identity crisis so now it's trying to reposition itself on the international world stage and reassert its global dominance but it seems like it will do that at any cost. on precedented and severe belt so the kremlin has branded pressure on countries to stop using russia's sputnik the vaccine the remarks come after the u.s. department of health published a report which boasts a tried to dissuade brazil from using the russian job with more on the story here's our senior correspondent. we've all heard the bat deals to secure the shipment of countries trampling each other to get those precious jobs these says the 1st star we've heard of back door deals to deny people a vaccine the u.s. department of health health and human services boosting that it had denied hundreds of millions of brazilians a jab. the office of global affairs used diplomatic relations in the americas region to mitigate efforts by states including cuba venezuela and russia who are working to increase their influence in the region to the detriment of u.s. safety and security examples include using the office of global affairs health a touchy office to persuade brazil to reject the russian copied 19 vaccine and that is what is essentially a grand perversion of simple human decency and moral values they argue that brazilians vaccinating themselves with a russian vaccine is apparently a threat to u.s. security they are explaining how they just say that it is let me put that in perspective for you we will see and hear of the daily death tallies right so one in 5 of those deaths are happening right now in brazil 20 percent of all couvade deaths worldwide are in brazil and these people a boosting that they help prevent inoculations in brazil with one of the objectives the and scientifically proven most efficient vaccines in the world ease of the same people who claim that lives in vaccines are above politics and accused russia of undermining inoculation efforts it is very clear that russia is up to its all tricks. and in doing so is potentially putting people at risk by spreading dissin from ation about vaccines well darden u.s. department of health and human services who feel safe and your organization behind sputnik v. has come out and said what any reasonable person already knows this is a pandemic that is threatening and killing people equally. the threat to mankind it is above politics saving and we're talking here about millions of lives is paramount but the degree of cynicism and double standards here is astonishing to see when it's about saving american lives they'll take all the help that they can get remember the russian planes carrying aid to new york last year oh they accepted that new threat to national security there apparently but brazilians vaccinating themselves with sputnik god forbid no no no america current allow brazilians to do that some western states are trying not only to politicize the humanitarian aspect of the fight against coronavirus but also to take advantage of the pandemic to punish governments they don't like i'm not sure gree with the russian foreign minister yes they are politicizing vaccination politicizing lives that's obvious but i'm not entirely sure that the countries that the us doesn't like that it's them that have been punished it's the people that they're friends with brazilians who will potentially not receive a life saving job so were fishes in washington can go to sleep at night feeling good and safe despite its admission in the report the u.s. department of health says it cannot comment on vaccines nots approved by the nation's food and drug administration sputnik being still awaiting approval in brazil. the debate over whether to lessen our meat consumption or even cut it out altogether a scene 2 u.s. states lock horns nebraska decided to declare a prove me day after neighboring colorado and once they reach a tarion. that's the right way of life or rather ask. you if you're bored you mean you are right you would be underway with security or you were part of. our healthy. also this lying in the street you're our state 34 of. colorado said may 20 years would be me sounds day and prescott responded by declaring it meets on the menu day and this guy states carnivorous culture war was a joy is this and a much here it's a competition i just ate a peanut butter sandwich as a tribute to pete these guys need to settle deadbeats. why have people continue into like children. some people who are vegan or vegetarian are so heavy handed and so obstreperous is sometimes rude and we're creating this this battle between mediators and. those who aren't and it's sad how do you explain to somebody whose family is in the cattle business that there were people who want to put them out of business there is such contempt between carnivores and vegetarians if i go out to eat i say well i think i'm going to have and they say what you're not you're not one of those things are you you're not a vegetarian. and immediately i go through the question and answer with 3rd degree what are you going don't you know you need protein ok we're all set to crackle with some more great programs in mere moments keep watching to find out what is on offer or ever 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