Everything that is normal life since the election all the ins and outs i think. People voting. Balls be changed obvious rarely and unconstitutionally in order to make essentially a melee and voting can take place without any open chat that was supposed to be in place if any of this have happened in russia say the state department would you know im not a nice remain at the top of his wife it would already be imposing sanctions on russia while all the phony election so thats exactly right. And we dont even have to talk about what would happen in other countries i mean if lets say you had been done around who had been come out with a big lad to win and having passed that 170 electoral college. With all this had that had come out of what would have been the media response the media would have been screaming this is the broader donald trump has cheated theres no mandate every single accusation or. Illegality every single act of National Electoral or must be investigated by ramy must go to court you must go to the state legislators and watch them not to certify the election as we know that that would have been the response of the us media when he has a map and because the result is that it is something that is desired by much of the media as though there is lection obama raining about it spot complaining accept the results and lets move over to the coming by in error and we felt even got one thing george they would have resurrected the russia gate hoax just as the extra you know insurance policy is or greater. You know you know max one of the interesting things its could come about here consider and depending on what donald trump intends to do in january of next year and the reason i ask you because during. The fall of the of the czarist empire of the imperial government there was a dual power that bottled out during that what would become part of the Russian Revolution here this is something something akin to it i mean joe biden may be the legal president of the United States but in the eyes of tens of millions. Up to 73000000 he will not be and he trump will still have a form of legitimacy that. Biden is going to be hard to. To out shine as it were because as george pointed out here im not making any accusations here im going by what i hear in the meet but theres a lot of irregularities and im being very polite about it irregularities here so i mean what does this portend for american. Americas political future when youre going to have a legal president then youre going to have a lot of other people saying hes not my president the other guy is go ahead minutes right well 1st of all any president including that of the United States usually operates in 3 dimensions and its 3 donates as a politician as a bureaucrat and is it a matter of cheese so for biting the floors its to kind of smooth over the things that you just mentioned it isnt were going to show that hes a more kind of capable bureaucrat you know he will have to ensure that there is a faster transition there that hes people you know feel it important decisions you know they can but its not the governments. And the media im pretty sure will pick up on that merits to portray him as a more authentic you know. People governor does it as a more capable person to govern the United States and that that way some other out there americans who will defer trunks will be and its a challenge now as a politician by the worst has to care about his farm his reelection is for his victory and the next election cycle were still have to say very positions that are supposed to strengthen that have a presence inside United States you know given gratian reform that will house you know about 11000000 Illegal Immigrants or a bit more than 20 potentially even that within our investors and this is where several tash will Democrats Use receiver thats for the next election including congressional action and as a commander in chief bill b. You know all this focus is on external threats that i think well talk about later so were city you know this will be kind of a 3 domains that hes administration will pursue and the media will very much focus on 2 you know you mentioned after its out shiny and its more strong as a much bigger or is not or to you know outright mightnt but then it will be this resource that i think that the media the Mainstream Media and other actors in the insight you had states will try to boost bidens presidency and as youre accurately mentioned and i think thats pretty much general in the u. S. Election its fair in the us political system that is very much dependent on election cycles and as they say the next election cycle starts the day the next day after the inauguration. Mania it may be and will doubly so george because whats going to happen here my prediction is at least number one night trump is going to stay in the in the in the limelight obviously hes a showman 1st and foremost likes to create you likes to tease the public and he likes to create interest of patients and what he will end up doing is it went went. Ever the job i can ministration proposes or talks about theres going to be a juxtaposition and the trump is issue is this and he will have all of his. His orbit of people around him amplifying that all the time so it is going to be a binary whatever. The bike ministration proposes theres going to be an equal effect with the people that support donald trump because and again im not making any claims here but a lot of people believe that this election was stolen from them and and until that is result which i doubt it will be theres this is going to hang over american politics for them for the next 4 years and actually freeze american politics for the next 4 years oh and by the way george the media will love it because they make a lot of money off it yes thats right and. 2 probably as things stand on january 20th you know roll day donald trump will not attend bidens inhere ation he will hold a rally of his own during which he will almost certainly announce his candidacy for 2024 he brought he did that. During the rally on saturday in georgia i mean more or less said that that if he isnt in the office on january the 21st he will be the candidate in 2024 so thats the question he will then declare his candidacy if and that means everything will be about. Contending with with the policies of the biden in this race so this wont be like the normal electoral cycle or who will be the republican nominee but in 2020 people this will be dont trump is making his comeback and he is the leader of the opposition and so whatever you say whatever biden intends to do there will be. Tweeting holding rallies is giving interviews. Several times a day on fox news and this will be a kind of the focus of the opposition so the biden astray she has already hobbled from the beginning theres no goodwill towards him theres no honeymoon period he has already scrambling. Against the the opponent that will be that he is the looming ever larger and hes intent on destroying him you know max it in how do you think the outside world is going to look at this is it again you know. Joe biden may be the legal president under the constitution but you know you it will be even noticed that theres the whos driving the news cycle whos driving what the different discussions about policy it will be a candidate that would like it george said on Inauguration Day if you action starts and candidate trump is going to be determining a great deal of what that discourse is how holy outside world look at as well they just be in awe or they be terrified or just be mystified go ahead right well i think will throughout Human History doesnt work up until perhaps 21st century whose army wins the 21st century its super whos sort of wins so i think one of the things to counter trap activity is size far as i can imagine in the United States is the big media act is trying to strip him of that Information Space what is sure of the Information Space you know twitter perhaps banning his accounts and you know major channels including fox news you know hes been very supportive of trump throughout most of his presidency but on some instances theres been also critical were not providing the platform for the president so you might be well at least to me try to marginalize him inside the United States to create the picture for the rest of the world that hes not the what do you want me to maybe upshots so if that happens since were just the critical battle will be up. Yes to control the garage yes recall the budget and all the states as far as the perceptions are concerned i think of the world will be will be divided because we now see that so you know maybe American Allies in western europe nato allies cheerleader were were bitin and really were you know welcome to him and were among the 1st to congratulate him on what these tricks and were as other American Allies in the middle east in particular were less so you know can see was yeah stick and the trunk was at 1st to deal with it at least you know their interests were served in the relationship of the United States was a mixed bag in asia i would say you know some prefer continued working with trunk others continued you know thought that you know straps a new interim alycia underbite would be a better word for them so i think it will mean less will still be a less certainty for the rest of the world. As far as what its going on in the next what i mean the end of this part of the program you have and i think it will be it will be very very interesting is that you know if theres a name potential of another drum presidency why would countries around the world want to get an agreement with joe biden ok remains to be on things are you look at a short break now that you were discussion and some real news day. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to a guest of the world of politics or business im showbusiness ill see if that. Yes there is a saying. I think theyre on the cheap 1st and then we went through all the countries dont let the idea is really their right to call us comfy he said if we give them everything slipped into fast. Leave. This country. This is what we dont understand how we are poor in such a country. That is until 2 months after the same time. Your saying i dont mean to. 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Welcome back to cross up where all things are considered im Peter Lavelle to remind you were discussing some real news. Ok lets go back to george in budapest wont we i think that you know the 2 of 3 of us here on this program can easily for seeing a lot of gridlock in the next 4 years and we focus quite a bit also are on domestic politics and just at the sale in International Politics whats going to be very interesting here george for me is if we have these laser thin majority for the g. O. P. For the democrats in the house of representatives and depending on what happens in georgia the Senate Remains in the hands of the g. O. P. So ergo theres only one thing with with some kind of effectiveness that by doing ministration can pursue is Foreign Policy ok and i think that because of because theyll be this sense of gridlock that sense the reality of gridlock in washington the in the new administration have to dissipate that come to pass in january theyre going to say this is the only thing we have got and now theyre you know theyre putting the band back together from the obama years and even from the george w. Bush years in the world is their oyster right now im not very optimistic about that because they didnt want to show themselves to be effective meaningful and that means maybe using a lot more force like we saw under obama what do you think george i agree with here that that will be the priority. Biden inspiration because as you say they wont really have much margin to maneuver when it comes to the mess that they didnt get the mandate that they were expecting what the polls were predicting so this is they have bashed up. If you look at their pronouncement the pronounce of the blame gana by jakes all that its all about how lets have act was Foreign Policy you know well lets show russia whos boss lets show that he and the price the pay into play here and. Lets show china that were ready to compete with them. In every country in the well lets show. The mischievous regimes like assad whos boss and that was the only intent to overthrow them so they dont really have any clear idea what it is theyre trying to achieve other than they want to do this american Foreign Policy and activist american Foreign Policy usually means interference in other countries. Both by a saw integrating all these phony Civil Society programs by not so its all about sanctions and ultimately military intervention so 2 no doubt that will be dressed up as right you know were competing with china because if we dont do it china will make all plays so i think thats going to be the mentality and i think its going to be and thats the. Coming couple of years you know max you know when it was during the. Trumpet ministration when russia gate was full blown and now we looks like we may have an administration will have members there were some of the biggest proponents of this hoax here and these type of people are arrogant theyre not particularly smart well connected and they have great credentials at least when as the ruling class b. I dont see them eating their words theyre never going to admit theyve been wrong and so once a russia gate or always a rush again or and now they will how power that doesnt portend well for the future my friend go ahead well i think there are 3 elements here 1st of all your response rita. For next time ok to trinity its like the trinity right tackle it well 1st of all 1 throughout the trump ministration yours the barrister criticize trump for 1st of all these team is incompetent. Second hes a russian literature and thirdly. Hes undermining American Leadership so basically theyre gathered team who they want to portray him as more competent less russia friendly and you know that will interest or American Leadership which when you look at into into the composition of the team that you see that a lot of these people have known each other for many many many years and pretty much going from same circles i dont want to call it a lot but theres definitely a good share of the group think and this is one of the risks of the able to actual Decision Making on top of Foreign Policy decisions that i think is as it were for many people inside the United States as well and even if youre somewhere just inside the Democratic Party or states perhaps more than a professional that person it would be to the best of america if you are secondly their main 88. 00 is the worst that through the trumpet ministration that there is a great need to fight what they call populists at home inside the United States in the western society and authoritarian leaders who brought me since in being and not hers so when they bring a lot of this you know human rights agenda sure and theres a worse. As to. Russia we tried it was and other countries that america has a strategic disagreements with thats thats of course a big worry thats early elsewhere say you mentioned the russia game it wants russia get roles russia get or i grew with you its just perhaps i think that they will focus more on russia is in trouble after in the United States and you know kind of approach out more pressure on russia outside you know way kind of bringing russia to where it should be as it is a big you know concern to risk a threat to United States and that of course does not a whole new very optimistic on all of the 3 accounts here but i agree with everything youre going to say you know georgia gives it that it doesnt it doesnt really worry me is that. You know like i said once a russia gator always a russian gator and theyre going to end it now they have the lovers howard on it and i think you know when we look at you know trump was soft on russia maybe the evidence doesnt show that whatsoever what worries me is even more i mean it gets down to at the at the end of the day you know what kind of conflict do you want to have you want to call conflict or a hot one because its going to be a conflict no matter what ok. Yes thats right they talking because they want to sound very soothing because the base of this Foreign Policy that were talking about this something is very unpopular among the American Public so they basically kept all this hidden and why i say sue things i will return to the new start treaty maybe well return to the j. C. P. O. Way will return to the power supply metaphor to rejoin the w. H. O. So its all sounds very soothing. But in reality when they talk about returning to the new. Renewing the new start treaty that goes together with all sorts of threats and assertions that they dont in our challenge russia well of course if youre going to go in with that attitude then russia will have very little interest in renegotiating a new start treaty so thats really what theyre trying to do i mean they are going to compete with russia and china that they know that their mentality where in every part of the world so those sort of business and they pretty much made no secret of this will be syria i mean this is this is a you know goes back to the obama as they were they would feel that obama failed in syria they will renewed their regime change if war is syria even though theyre against making will the right noises well reggaes regime change where he gains forever was thats thats thats not really what they get thats all theyre meant out of if they will do that ukraine again thats something thats that goes back to the obama if thats what bidens bailey wick. Again that theyre going to stop interfering then were going to go into. The kook assess with in the corner car bomb prices that theyre going to find more and more places to intervene in and to show that america is back. And this of course does bring them into conflict with russia. And i think thats why. They have the prospects are not at all right of course or not you know max one of the interesting things just something the george mentioned in passing is that the Foreign Policy. That this new team are opposing is unpopular with the public i mean its you know if it means going back to the you know the going back to what was normal as if there was anything normal about the Obama Administration that and this is again the professional manager ariel class saying to the public is that we know better than you do and that its no its no surprise that during the g 2020 alexion Foreign Policy was hardly a discussed whatsoever here so again we have this kind of separation between what they manage oil professional class believes should be done and what the public wants the public is against these wars here and if george is right and unfortunately he probably is right we have more we have the same old wars continuing and possibly some new ones and we after 3 president ial election cycles in a row ever is consistently these conflicts are on wanted theyre not popular with the public and that was the reason why im bringing that up because then and 2024 you know they think theres going to be a candidate out there and say i told you so they will never end these wars there if the democrats are giving this individual a gift go ahead max right well i think oh it is a president proponents of greater operations of the United States and russia in an ideal world i can name the tons of issue where moscow and washington could gently coppery and were sure that thats not going to happen and you know that letter by letter relations lost their meaning for her. To many in washington and for now were pretty much left with what the best we can do is to manage confrontation you know make sure that this conversation does not spill over to a hot war as your match was never yet and sitting everything thats happened here ok if russia gate and all of this here why should anyone in russia trust what any American Administration says about anything im sorry getting i think theres a lot of theres a lot of truth in it ok i mean or where is the trust or what i want you know i dont want im an american youre russian i dont we should never be enemies but you know because given what the elites have done in washington theres no reason for us to be friends i think theyre go ahead no i dont disagree with this i its just my point it wouldnt be theres definitely no trust no one really i say anyone at their worse its just that i think you know the best looking do is to make you know managed confrontation meaning that there is no hot war and this perhaps will get based on heart or you know old school terms. And you know thats promotional youre you can do but i think and on the issue larry out its not a policy. Of this kind of intervention is not United States absolutely its totally not popular there is both on the side of the progressive you know had the republicans that these interventions are an idea you know they try to you know the democratic establishment try to present some brand their Foreign Policy i think thats a report recently of why the democratic vice Foreign Policy would be beneficial for the middle class how well lets see how that turns out to be right maybe thats a topic for another program because id like to know the answer to that or i would run out of time i want to thank my guests in budapest and in moscow i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time remember us the tools. Oh look forward to talking to you all. That technology should work for people. 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