A thing. Absolutely. I think thats the understated danger here. And it could even be more than that. If the election was as much of a fraud is some people view that while as theyre going to have to really share the lightly here because there are a lot of you just have to go on twitter for example. I mean, it is like the modern version of war is unbelievable. The 2 sides, they dont talk to each other and thats the mainstream media. Theyve completely blocked any news from, from the right. Its unbelievable how theyre getting away with it. I know myself, i mean, im not even in the United States right now, but i feel the fury that im sure millions of americans are feeling. I keep here on twitter and its out of all the anger and the rage to be, to have a leader and theyre not even talking about the fact that, you know, you cant, you cant even get in is a vile of the fact that theyre contesting the outcome of the most consequential election in u. S. History. You cannot find news about this anywhere. Its been totally by Rudy Giuliani had his press conference with a group of his the goal of an hour. You couldnt find it anywhere. C. N. N. Latino mess and it was i think fox news covered it for you know, the senate, the in parts. This is going the way of the establishment and the status quo. And so its really, i think youre right peter. I think its really, its very dangerous. What theyre doing, theyre playing a role, came the American People in the interesting for me, george is that this is a continuation because as i alluded to in my 1st question to you, is that theres no end there. Isnt that no curiosity about the surveillance of the trump orbit and campaign and even as he was going into the oval office, so that, that in those are facts that dont own perpetuate. Theyre there designs on power and the same thing is happening and they want to ignore things in focus on others. And if you want, if you believe in the rule of law, you should be picking you. You cant cherry pick these things that you have to have some kind of consistency, or people are going to lose interest in faith in these institutions. And this is something that ive been saying since the start of the trumpet ministration is that theyre destroying institutions by cherry, picking the facts, quote unquote, facts that, that serve their purposes and power desires. Yes, yes, no question about that. If you remember when just before the election, President Trump had his interview with leslie stoll of c. B. S. And he brought up the subject that my campaign was spied on by the obama administration. She flat out denied it because i know we didnt know all the material that has come out. Everything that weve known about the cost of page weve known about Michael Flynn advice of own in the obama oval office. The meetings that peter struck all that. No, i didnt. So this is highly paid. Celebrity journalist just simply said no, we didnt. And that has been the attitude of the media. You give them information, you give them material, you give me it. Is this minutes of this meeting . Oh no, were just not going to pay any attention to it. You know, who are you going to believe that these documents or your lying eyes . So the same thing is happening now. You think people are swearing affidavit, so app and david are legal documents only that say you you were an affidavit and the pen penalty of perjury. And they as wearing affidavits that they have seen or elicit goings on during this election. Media pay no counter, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence that they keep repeating. And as they say, and this is really disastrous because come january 20th, if biden is indeed swallow and, and right away they got half the country will say he is not my president. He is not here by fraud and he demanded they were hit rubber, did they . And the, the, the disappointing thing for me is that it is george said in his 1st answer, you know, trump is guilty. We just have to find the crime. I mean, its a very stalinist approach to do the system here, but i mean in the case of hunter, by, for example, where there is forensic forensic evidence and you can read emails, you can see pictures, you can, you can, you know, see information about wire transfers of large sums of money conversations and that, that is real evidence. But in the case of trump, they have to try again, like the 4 years of his presidency, you have to keep, you know, theres a guilty verdict. They just have to find the charges and they dont apply the same standard. The standard is different for donald trump and his orbit. And then someone, for example, the son of joe biden. If you didnt go back to the presidency of george bush, for example, barack obama has just basically were criminals. They opened up doors that didnt need to be open, committed atrocities, basically libya, iraq, when we go into syria, he came the Nobel Peace Prize winners. So what are they, you know, the nation piece of history they were talking about going after trump and the very 1st thing they were talking about was going after him for his relationship is with stormy daniels. This is, this is desperate as they are to get this guy out of office. Theyre going to do absolutely everything they can. But he said before, as we said before, that there is a risk. Theyre going to push too hard, as there are more than probably a 1000000 americans who support the guy. But on the other hand, they view him. They view dont from as an existential threat to themselves, to this, the swamps of the socalled deep state, if you will. And thats what he promised to do from the beginning. He promised them out and we take them out legally. So now theyre, theyre in, theyre in for what were doing, you know, to both of you here. I mean, i agree with your sentiment, robert, but he didnt get them out. As a matter of fact, he had quite a few of them ins in his administration and that is on him. Ok, thats on him. And his a Human Resources policy is that mr. Nunn many unmitigated disaster for his administration. George, i mean again, i know you feel probably very much a samey up and someone like john bolton, you have jerry cushion or, i mean, what does he know about middle east politics . Ok. You know, they may be the deal of the century air. I mean, and this is on him as well. You know, at the same time, there is a certain deference to former president s. Ok. And i can point out to both of you when our viewers trumpet ministration. Go after hillary. No. Yeah. Yeah, thats right. I think that was really the problem from the start with donald trump and he was, he didnt make the drastic changes that he promised. And instead hired a whole bunch of people who are part of the swamp. I mean, john bolton, my compare. Oh yeah. Jarret cushion, a son in law, giving him ridiculous advice of the middle east and just about everything else. And, you know, he had a time to go to the rallies and he would still sound all the themes of 20160 and bring the interventions to an end. Were going to, you know, focus on america for us, but he didnt really carry it out and i think that really did him in, in this election. It could have done a lot better. But instead he had a mixed message which confused people. And that is why he alternately, you know, been, do what he should have done. You know, i mean, and on top of it, he had the entire, almost the entire media landscape against him. Ok. Which, you know, again, again, id like to reiterate, i mean, for mainstream media, he was a godsend. I mean, i mean, cnns appears to be on the block, some, they need to sell it 18, he needs to sell it. Ok. And the only thing that kept their revenues buoyant was donald trump. And thats why robert, for me, you know, it in the, theres a calculus right here to go after trump or not to go after trump, because theres, so theres not just political interests here, or political values here. Theres a lot of money in it. I mean, robert going after trump outside of the, the oval office is a grifter, a huge british to ok. Keep it going, keep it going. But as i said, you risk alienating how the country finish up for us, robert. Oh, yeah. And now theyre pushing about war and everything like that, whether or not shes going back to the ranch, for example, talk about money. And thats, thats really what, what the media wants more than anything right now is United States war with iran . And thats one thing he deprived them of a lot of money over the years. The money he stole a lot of the military equipment, but lets face it. Theres no greater way to make money than war, and he deprived them of that. Thats one thing i think or, well im, i think trump gave the military more money than any other president here. All right, gentlemen, im going to jump in here. Were going to go to a short break. And after that short break, you know, or discussion on some real estate with art bell, look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. I robot must obey the orders given it by human beings, except where such orders that conflict with the 1st law show your identification or should be very careful about Artificial Intelligence. And the point of all of us me is to create trust ever played a very plain with Artificial Intelligence where something to be a robot must protect its own existence and join me every thursday on the alex salmond show. And ill be speaking to get a feel of the world of politics or business. Im show business. Ill see you then. 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Welcome back to cross up where all things are considered. Im Peter Lavelle to remind you were talking about some real news. Only lets go back to budapest, george. Theres an interesting article in the New York Times titled trumps options for attacking iran to stop its growing nuclear program. Ok, i mean that when you take trump out of the headline, thats a headline. You could read 20 years ago, 20 years. You could be reading that and you know, what was really interesting for me is that its the madman theory. That nixon, that is attributed to nixon, is that, you know, hes what the media with the New York Times is claiming is that hes a madman wanting to attack iran, just as hes a madman to take troops out of the middle east. You see how theyve tied them together. Its really fascinating. I have to say for these dimwits they came up with a interesting variation to george. Very interesting variation of, if you read that New York Times article, its clearly a total fraud. Because i have this opening paragraph, which is they had the nuclear inspectors, they said that currently iran has more Nuclear Material that its supposed to have under the j. C. B. Away. And they said trump about options from his advices. This in the very next census morphed into him and his advisors had to dissuade him from attacking iran. Theres nothing. Theres no evidence whatsoever that he was planning to attack iran. But then york times present it in that way because no ones going on the record, all anonymous that he had to be looked, whereas all hes doing is what any president would do. Ok, because as advisors, one of my options he had to be dissuaded. And of course its very important that how the New York Times and other Media Outlets are. And to think this, because they know that pulling troops out is politically very popular with voters. Extremely unpopular with the media and the washington policymaking elite so they can ok, well get the 2 together and suggest no, what trump is doing is not pulling troops out from lots of countries which would make him popular and his opponents unpopular. No. What is really doing is planning a new war. So you watch out, you like trying but no, no, no, hes actually planning a new war. So its a total froth. This is the fly by line article incidentally 5 by any i know. But i notice that i noticed that everybody wanted to get on board without one here. You know, robert. The interesting thing is that the media has never been able to address this and in the end, an honest way is that these foreign adventures, endless wars, stupid wars, expensive wars, are simply not popular with the public. And trump, and you know, it gets down to maybe what his political calculus is whenever he made the white house is that he wants to be able to say, i tried to keep my promises, but it was the deep state that deny me me achieving those goals. And now what you have is the, you have in this case of the New York Times, twisting that around as if you ran in troop withdrawal or have anything in common. They dont actually have anything in common, but they create they, they create this narrative and they fabricate this narrative as if they are the same thing. Go ahead robert. d what really struck me about the New York Times of New York Times writers were they were low for Anonymous Sources or writers and they had its amazing and they wonder why the print media become so expensive. Why does it ever taken 5 journalists to write one thesis on the well, you get, were not, i dont, i wouldnt, i would fully suspect, given president here is that it was, it was written by a deep state property and they just put their name on it. Ok, because thats essentially what this particularly the case. That particular case when it comes to National Security issues, it a rough draft is provided and then put their stamp on it. But, you know, robert, you know, staying with you again, the media has never been able to get their head around the fact that these wars are very unpopular. I mean, i can remember someone making a joke with me and it was a very sick joke is that after the invasion of iraq that, you know, c. N. N. Was already with all the graphics. All they had to do was change one letter to iraq. Ok, because its good for ratings, the way they see those beautiful missiles, probably the most disgusting thing ever said. Im n. B. C. News winner syria was being in the early attack here. So i mean the, theres an appetite for war because its good for ratings they think. But its not a vote getter and trump intuitively understood that. And we have to say, you know, for all the faults and i talk to george very often here. He didnt start a new war. I think want him to have the perception by the public that he doesnt keep his promises and then essentially hes a madman. Its essentially a way of the more allies using him of wanting war, which actually why one of the reasons the site for closing the border with mexico was to stop these senseless wars. So you have this, these rumors, i mean, this is, you know, a moment of opportunity as well. You know, the trump right now and his administration there, are there bogged down trying to find a way through fraud corruption in the election. The last thing that theyre going to be able to do right now its come out and waste time trying to disprove, near New York Times piece. They spent enough time of that. So yeah, and i think for another thing is the probably trying to put by in on a crash course. It was a way that they did with extra ya when he was coming into office, they just obliterated relations. The process. I think theyre trying to do the same thing, probably lives of the crash course. But i want to crash course in the iran, exactly as they did with, you know, trial in russia in 2016. You know, theres this, there is something to that, george, i mean, you know, for the, the ruling elites, particularly in the media and all through the g. O. P. And the Democratic Party is they, they have this phobia in they, they always pull it out when its, when they i mean, to be politically useful for them. Theres the one thing, one of the theories and this ridiculous article is that its make trouble for biting. And in the early days of his administration, you know, when you look at the Foreign Policy of the United States is that towards rent for 40 years, its amazingly bipartisan. But every once in a while they pull it out for as a political cudgel. Your thoughts have it is very amusing what you just mentioned about that theory in the New York Times article because it was a clear case of projection because that was exactly what your Bottom Administration did too. Dont trump in this very last days it expelled Russian Diplomats imposed sanctions. Knowing that that is that it was boxing in its success. So it wont know, this is what the trump is probably planning on with by them. When iran youre absolutely right about the policy it, but there is this democratic mindset right now. I mean, the democrats just, you know, they, they just march in lockstep, you know, whatever, whatever the subject you know, once theyve given their orders, right . Everybody, you say the same thing all the time. And so because it was obama who signed the j c. P. O. Way, all democrats are supposed to say yes, yes is that j. C. P. O. Is great. Even though the Democratic Party did dot all support the j. C. B. Away in that, which is why obama was unable to wrap it by. And so thats right, thats on the right now. They say, you know what to do anything bad toward iran because thats trumps policy. Whereas were with obama, but you got to be, i think that in this case its clear that what theyre trying to do is to frighten trumps vote. Is to make them abandon trump as moment saying, oh my look, look, this is what you want. Your mans going to do, hes not anti interventionist. He wants to get into a war. So forget about him, just dump him not to come up with the ugly that were going to like. But george, i mean simple logic would dictate if you look over whats happened over the last 4 years and said, lets say for example, trump wants a war with the rent. No one in the deep state, given his 4 years would do anything about it. Ok, they just take the Papers Office desk here. I mean, it is so rude. It chris, you know, this, these ideas that they are pushing here is that trump, the other side of the story is of course, the troop withdrawal. And how difficult has it been for him to do that . So robert, you know, assuming that, you know, trump is out there a wanting to start a war. I mean, it wouldnt be put the left in the deep states benefit. Theyd never let him do it. So i mean, what was the whole point of the article in the 1st place except, except for trying to intimidate and scare and befuddle Trump Supporters go ahead robert . Well, i think another reason could just be distracting from the fact that theyre just not covering Election Fraud. And this is, this is really the new story of robert. I mean, i just want to say allegations of Election Fraud. Ok. When our parents were there, her face in the looks is not here. And i think that this is just another distraction from the media cover to cover their trail to cover up the fact that they have been just visible when it comes to covering this a legit reported crime. The American People dont come to some fund realization the elections are, are legitimate, and they can be verified and theyre transparent. Then you just basically just buy american democracy. Its the guy after next year if thats what happened. So there has to be an investigation in the media, is part of that part of the process. Of course, we need to have Investigative Journalism looking into this, looking into these examples, dominion systems. The fact that the process is going through overseas, onto its site all, and now weve got to look unlike another. So its not an article, allegedly robert allegedly, lets be honest, are really, i know, because, you know, as ive said to george many, many times Election Fraud in american politics is legendary. Its part of the system here, but it has to be proven yet. And, and my point to you is that every single claim should be missing to investigate it. And on top of it, i think the media should take much more interest and the people that should take the most interest in it is, are the people around by, you know, step up and lets clear this up. There are timelines, there are rules, and theres still plenty of time to get everything on track. Ok, but i agree with your assessment here. If they are not taken seriously, then you know, the, the peoples belief in this institution is going to wane in. Its in pretty bad shape right now. George, you want to give me love for 45 seconds. I mean, again, going back to this New York Times story is that its really a triumph of the neo cons. You know, they get both ways. Theyve got both parties have captured both parties and the media. They are the biggest winner after all this. Everything exactly. Because of course, we know from the entirety of the record of the trumpet ministration, that whenever trump wanted to withdraw forces, whether from syria from afghanistan, even from germany. That was how it was of indignation in washington and among the media. My god, this is the most lunatic thing you can conceive while withdrawing. Forces know anywhere without they turn it around and say no, no, no, you know, trump is a really, hes a war monger, hes not somebody who wants to draw down. Also, thats all. It is a completely, the fraud. 6 and i have to jump and you run, but the number of overawed served by the media are excellent. Thats all the time we have. I want to thank my guests here in moscow and who doesnt want to thank our viewers watching as youre you see you next. Remember when i was still seems wrong. But ill hold. Just dont call me old yet to see how this day comes after. And in detroit, the trail when some find themselves worlds apart, just to look for common ground. 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