Their own safe spaces if you will. Although i think thats not really fair because conservatives actually prefer to engage with the left. They prefer to have these conversations. They want to be a part of the national dialogue. Its a left that doesnt want them to be heard. It doesnt want them to influence people doesnt want their crimes being out there in the public, you know, back to the children and whatnot. So they may exclude them from mit, the mainstream narrative to be stream of conversation, which is of course, controlled by multinational multibillion Dollar Tech Companies who are somehow able to get away with it. So i think theres a difference. And in this age based culture, were going to write a lot of course, the whole idea of safe spaces is something that started on the college campuses. And its still something that sort of, you know, we talk about these kind of hyper sensitive, authoritarian lefties. You know, were really talking about maybe 50 percent of the population nax who are, who are these petty tyrants and speech go people who actually do demand how people think and speak and treat them. But even though its not the majority electorate, these people do bully everyone into succumbing to their will. They bully corporations. They believe the media. So they have an outsized level of power and authority in the political discourse, which of course should and should be dealt with. Yeah, i would, id say you have to discuss this even father, im really enjoying this. Unfortunately weve run out of time, but that was chris 10 months. Are we safer . Said im todd whitmore. Thank you so much for the scaf not with us. Thats all for the moment. Ill be back at the top saying hello and welcome the crosstalk. Are all things are considered . Im Peter Lavelle. Trump is facing probably his last battle as president. Will he triumph over the generals and will by his Foreign Policy pick up where obama left off with the neo cons . Again, be back in control. To discuss this and more, im joined by my guest, george samueli. In budapest, hes an author and a you tuber apa gabble. And in moscow, im joined by dmitri and she is a political analyst and editor. And you know smee internet media project. All right, gentlemen, crossed up rules in effect, that means you can jump in anytime you want. And i always appreciate it. Ok, lets go to budapest, george trump, maybe if hes not inaugurated again in january. Be fighting the last battle of his term in office here, and its with the pentagon. Its with the generals here, and i think its being under played very much in the media. This is a very Serious Business right now. You. They didnt phatic lee clear that is an administration will pull out troops from, from afghanistan, possibly also from syria. And its, i find it quite odd that we keep hearing from the liberal media that trump may resort to a coup to stay in power. Well, looks to me that the pentagon and the National Security stay as committing a coup against trump in the last months of busy residency by not obeying direct orders from the commander in chief, this is Serious Business. Go ahead, george. It is extremely serious because he is the commander in chief and he has a right and the duty to implement his policy. And what were getting is that the pentagon is explicitly just ignoring the instructions from the commander in chief. So we get in afghanistan in which the United States has actually signed an agreement with the taliban, committing itself to withdrawing by early next year. And the pentagon decide whether or not that im not going to implement this policy. Theyre going to condition it on what the military regards as the situation on the ground. Even though theres nothing in the agreement with the taliban in which the departure of the americans is condition on the situation on the ground. The only thing situation that the United States deem as a deal breaker is if the taliban is attacking u. S. Forces, or if the taliban is cooperating with isis or ok, there is no evidence of started on is doing any of that. But nonetheless, the military is ignoring the president and the same thing is happening in syria where we learned the other day from jim jeffrey, who was the trumpet ministration point man on syria. That basically has been lying to the president. He has been misleading the president as to the actual troop numbers in syria. And although were going to get about 200 forces there, i dont doubt that if you know its at least 900 maybe even more. And what is so shocking about all of this is that he was very proud of having misled the president and the media were clapping and cheering. Oh, this is wonderful. That theres the deep state who all the National Security state is simply misleading to the elected commander. In chief, so it is very troubling as you know, given in just a little and when george just said there, i mean, and theres no consequences for obstructing your your superior the commander in chief here. I mean, if this i jeffreys character, i mean, they applauded him because he out we did that, the president of the United States under any other president , this would be serious charges here. Not only would you be him, you humiliated you would probably be barred from working in the National Securities they ever again. And i dont know, maybe even legal issues and play here. But just the opposite here that sharing this year, ive said from the beginning of the trump presidency, this resistance opposition to the president when in the government is destroying institutions. And one of the most sacred institutions we have is as the civilian control of the military, go ahead. Yes. And in fact, one where i am in no orks suspiciously like military control or 46 because generals benefit or just one command and the nato forces in, in europe. He is now in that 20 council. He is now advising, you know, their us Foreign Policy. Im sure he will gain more importance on the trump. And ben for just has just recently sat that we should include georgia in nato know where everyone understands what kind of course it was a step may have. He said that with ukraine, we can just go on it somewhat. But again, you know, ukraine would be the reddest of the red lines, you know, for russia. So these people, again generous and replaced for defense secretaries during his term. So its not Institutional Policy is the fact that theyre all against, you know, there is an idea. What would you against, you know, just if you misbehaving generals, and what is it specially troubling is the weight is presented. Not only in that many can be broken media, but in the european media, the european media presents as, as trump is going to have a coup before he leaves office, you know, he fired that accident. Defense secretary, he fired the chief of meta team, data, jones, hes up to something terrible, you know, and they, the problem is that they get source us from the night in the United States. You know, i guess bigger magazine in germany has just obviously be going to be with james stavridis, the former commando or nato forces in europe. And james, the range, assess, trump is unpredictable. Hes in bit and frustrated. He can do anything he can at that point. You run know, he can send the u. S. Warships to the waters near china and provoke a war there. You know, what is amazing about these ultra liberal generals is that whatever trumps das is bad, you know, he, in syria, they, they accused him of putting out the troops and leaving the oil to russians. Or, you know, train your, you know, our good friends, you know, and you know, worse, you know, encroaching on syrian territory. We decorate you, well just recently the United States was glad been, you know, when turkey and on the hours after the openly intervened in syria, you know, it just bossing the border. Sometimes theyre insurgents inside syria and that was fine. And suddenly when trump, you know, had an agreement without a gun, they said, oh, this is again, syrian territory integrity. So there is no one to quit these guys, you know, they are all b. S. Knee. They hate trial. If someone is frustrated that unpredictable, this is their home. And the end, the way it is played out in the European Press is just shameless. You know, its shameless saying that that trump wants to have a coup when you have generals openly disobey him, heal all currently being, you know, the, i do always, you are not the elected thought. You know what you heard these generals are, and these neo cons are smore concerned with syrian sovereignty in borders that american borders are deep. The missing something they think its really important here is that trump is deemed to be unpredictable. You know, what is predictable is the reaction to trump in this neo cons in their approach to Security Policy around the world. Theyre very, very predictable and thats why theyre so dangerous, and there is no control on them. And particularly, and will stop about in the 2nd part of the program under a biden ministries. And this is tell us every tells us everything we know this is, it really has nothing to do with party affiliation. Its that you have these deep state characters. They determine what National Security policy is. Its irrelevant to the president as. Yes, exactly, because if you remember, during the latter days of the obama administration, this isnt promises. Obama administration, when the junk kerry and Sergey Lavrov signed an agreement that the United States and russia would jointly conduct military operations against isis within hours of the signing of the agreement. The us military launched an attack against the syrian military, but its isis against the syrian military. And of course, because its led to serious guys dont, is there greenland was not on board of it . The russians are so furious about this. So this was a clear act of sabotage. The military there was basically said, we dont agree with this policy of cooperating with the russians or so we will sabotage this. And so will, thats what we have. Yeah, i mean they, the other 2 have decided that we will maintain a military presence in perpetuity everywhere where we are at the moment. And we are, you know who viet if you geoff military missions. So anything that the president does when he says we need to withdraw, we will sabotage. We will equals all the stories in the, in the media tell, tell the media what they want to hear. Trump is erratic, trump is insane. Trump is not assisting trump and doesnt have any understanding about strategy. And therefore, you know, we just create the atmosphere in which any withdrawal becomes out of the question because its either assuaging insane ego all the whole helping the kremlin. And we know the links that when the kremlin and from so these people are really very, very dangerous. And should have been cut down to size many, many years ago. You know, that ever since the law and going into the iraq war. But, you know, all of those people they failed up were apparently ok if you could, you can be wrong, but it doesnt hurt your c. V. And your future prospects. You know, demon its, its been widely rumored that trump may, or hes considering a run for the presidency in 2020 for what he does not last few months. This term is time in the, in the, in the white house could be determinant because this is a very important promise you made in 2016 just in these forests here is within his grasp to do it. All that theres an array of forces against them to stop it, which weve already alluded to here. But this is very important to him just because you know, he, he has been defeated by the deep state. I think we have to all admit that. Ok, this is his chance to go out and blazing lawry to say i did this and that is a message to his base because its going to be a rocky 4 years. Well, i think if he is smart, he is going to repeat all the time. I was the 1st president in 30 years, who didnt stop a scene when you war, but it will be very difficult for him to reach the people because all the media saying exactly the opposite. You know, the media saying were going to be back to the good old days. You know, were going to back just a bit, you know, without bomb a years, which stability a bomb up. Started several wars or at least he made them watch more dangerous. And bloddy, and then they could be, you know, in libya, he intervened and this is a civil war. Still continuing in syria, he intervened on the side of the force us, which lost and which almost ruined the concrete in ukraine. He changed the regime and the situation is still very dangerous. So when people talk about stability and about experience diplomats or, or collegian, yes, thats just ludicrous, you know. And all that bombing years. And its very important talking about the generals. I think ray mcgovern was right to Pay Attention to what john brennan had to say. John brennan told m. S n b c. The hoax. A ridiculous you pick a show intelligence in order to further trumps political interests is going to take place. Again, promise of predictable. Hes going to do something terrible. Yes, he may feel the u. S. Constitution and expose. Well, im sorry, your murderous because john brooks was there also all that gold Getting Program and of the internet is the joy of reading. Prided himself on the new york times. And trump wants his transparency and the left and the media are against that. All right, gentlemen, im going to jump in here. Were going to go to a short break. And after that show break, well continue our discussion and a future for homeless United States. Join me every thursday on the alec simon show. And ill be speaking to guest in the world of politics, sports business, im show business. Ill see you then. Welcome back to cross town where all things are considered. Im Peter Lavelle remind you were talking about a possible by Foreign Policy. Ok, lets go back to george in budapest, a georgian. What in the habit of reading a joe bidens tweets, but he did have to say this and were talking about a future up potentially future or in policy. When i am speaking to foreign leaders, i am telling them america is back. Were going to be back in the game. What do you take . Whats your take away from that . Because that gives me dark for voting. Go ahead. Whether dark for boating is a very, just if i have, im assuming that what he means is theyre waiting to go back to the interventionism of the clintons and bush or obama. Which means that wherever there is any kind of a conflict or any potential for conflict, america will be there to stoke the fires and make sure that the conflict intensifies and the killing will stop. And then american pows, as the intervenor against the bad guys, all of peacemaker or whatever. I think thats been the model of the last couple of decades. And its very lucrative, george, its a very lucrative model, very lucrative, exactly. Something to do that you leave the administration, you get a nice consultancy gig with a think tank over the military hardware, a producer. And you know, you have lots of luxor and lots of government jobs. So we can already see, you know, libya now theres been as a success on the part of trump in avoiding getting involved in the ongoing civil war in libya. I think, you know, you can be absolutely certain that the bite ministration will get itself involved in the, in the civil war in libya, syria, already and in a blink in whos like, you have a very senior position within the ministration. As hes already said, that he intends to remain you the war against Bashar Al Assad overthrow him. So that means well be back to sponsoring isis and alqaeda and everything that america been doing during the obama years. Ukraine, ukraine is he wants to get more and more ways than one exactly is that he wants to justify the 2014 coup organized. d by obama and biden, and then of course, bidens lucrative career subsequently there. And i was a thing in the leg or in a car about situation is still unstable, and biden, the ministration will get itself sucked into that one as well. And im sure there are others that people can mention where the biden will become active when its a lot of running the world. Ok, and human tell me what your thoughts are and things that youve heard of a potential by Foreign Policy as it relates to russia. My, the way i have looked at it for 2 decades now, is that the kremlin has prepared for anyone that goes into the white house and its basically being prepared for the worst. And that has been a realistic approach. What are your thoughts that . Well, maybe just a small correction toward jordan just said, im not sure i wouldnt say that the United States also directly isis or al qaeda. But certainly the United States helped the forces which have the same ideology and part of that money could trickle to the most radical groups. I mean, look at syria. When did i say in 2013, right after it became apparent that that a bomb would not get here. But i think in positions, if its part of the historical record, the United States officials in the United States knew where this weaponry was going. And you know, this money was going, its very end of the hour, it ended up in defense, all of them or straight to go for us. Youre absolutely right. But i think its very important to mention here that when during the terrorist acts in europe, we hear about the people who perpetrated these acts and they were active in syria, the u. S. Media, the western media in general, always reports of talk as if shes 3 started in 2013 when the, their socalled Islamic State official just out of to function in syria. When of course these people were actually when they were also there. You know, before the, i mean, official launch an all dices. There were groups with the same ideology or pursuing the same agenda. They just didnt call themselves isis. It was, they hoped americans would do their job for them wont be no resistance. So i agree, absolutely. With what george just said, that what you said, these policy is going to be more aggressive because it was just an american nationalist, unpleasant, cruel, you know, radia for cruelty. But he was, he wasnt ideological, you know, or his ideology was very simple. You know, i know israel, i support israel, i dont know we ron, i think we should while were on. You know, i think what the deep state was so much opposed to tromp that they didnt go along with his idea or take in iraq and now is just very fine. And you see how james the regis is sane or trump is dangerous. You mad. They could rendezvous have, im going to give people consequences in 2001, obama, paul, and of the same idea. There were no doubts about it. You know, people against the brain said, oh yes, yes, we should do something about iran and there was no problem. But you remember how people were actually to emigrate in from iran, joined there by john and other places because they were afraid of american strikes. Huge american strikes, kind of what i think, what is very dangerous is that they ask away ssion in ukraine. And here i would like to point your attention to the article in the, you know, i mean, you can conserve and your ukraine spot will play in minsk by mark, compress. You know, the author writes quite right in that biden press constituency is polish. The polish overall bake against russia, including for the media cream, but the author writes, i think wrongly, that until now, this aide was defensive, how he may bite and may push ukraine to feel what ukrainians themself in korea. Authorities themselves call gratian scenario just like croatia. If you think your scenario you find georgians, whats really interesting is that while there is going from the United States to ukraine, i mean, and trump got impeached over it. Apparently, whats really interesting to me is that the president of ukraine, because of the situation on the ground, was having to have to think about some kind of reconciliation with russia. And he can go through different sectors, but it like energy, for example. After all of this, cranes biggest trading partner remains russia here. Now, there are certainly those in it where they came to power after the coup and in 2014, they want a much more striking policy. And by means people want to, then the reason im pointing this out is that lift alone. And that reconciliation and simmering down accompli can happen when you have an outside power like the United States. We can look at libya, we can look at syria, we can look at afghanistan, iraq, and the ukraine. This is one, i mean, you know, i meant in my introduction, you know, picking up where obama left off or head. Yes, thats exactly right, because russias make clear that he has no interest in annexing any ukrainian territories of those who are living in the nets and the guns, then no real hope of being cooperated with and russia. So the only thing that the russians insist on is the special status for these, these 2 provinces that kiev hasnt really made any moves towards achieving that. And this as keeps the conflict going now with biden team. There they view things as a 0 sum game. If they just, if they heat up the conflict in ukraine urge some kind of a new offensive against the donetsk and lugansk for them. Its a win win. You know, its, i either dont know, its going to guns are defeated, which is unlikely, are, or russia is drawn into the conflict, which means russia and ukraine are at loggerheads. And its a, its a real headache for the russian because its a, its a, its a serious military conflict between 2 brother nations and their former. Yeah. And they are in on the border. Exactly. So they dont really care about ukrainians. They just see it as a 0 sum game that is bad for russia, and thats the mentality of these people. Thats why they are very dangerous because their own ethans own is, lets make life as difficult as possible for russia. Let, lets have them suck them into all kinds of conflict which then makes them gives them headaches, may cause instability within russia. And thats a very dangerous game to play. Because we really dont know, he, you know, the how, how easy, you know, how easily such situations going to get out of control. You know, the argument, you know, if it seems to me in the last, often the United States have not learned the lesson. They just never had an autopsy of why Hillary Clinton lost one of the reasons why she lost is the unpopularity of foreign wars, endless wars. And i would throw in interventions on this meddling as dorward george just described. Who is when it comes to ukraine. They havent learned a lesson and you know what, these neo cons and deep sea players, theyre quite happy with that. Ok. Because they can continue down the path of their ideological obsessions and russia is one of them. And of course, china is getting higher and higher on the menu, go ahead. Well, you are right. You know, even that 82 of or joe biden 2 or more than 70000000 people homeowner, for trump. He didnt have anything to go to except i also lost a few times in my life. You know, he didnt say or were going to correct the portion probably we did something wrong before 2016. Why are there still may know of you . He was here and not on your he was an o. E. Back to warfare. Again, i have to go to, you know, was that part of the campaign . George was it ever mentioned during the general campaign about supporting endless wars . I dont, i dont remember it coming up is just the opposite. During the democratic convention, they brought out all of these neo cons. Cheering a failed Foreign Policy. Ok, because i say failed because the American People voted against it in 3 election cycles. They voted against war. Ok. And what im saying is theres just this huge disconnect here. George, i give you the last 30 seconds. Yes. Thats right. Thats what you get with the biden scene. Theres this interventionism and this is rebutted a whole by political career has been about remembering him from the 1990 s. When he was an absolutely implacable ad bombing yugoslavia. He was a og, a supporter of the you didnt just both in favor of the iraq war and then you had the american say, wow, i think we sure politician and iraq as if its within the urgent rip were almost out of town years ago. And im here of former secretary of defense robert gates said about joe biden. Every, every policy stance he was wrong. Well probably find that out as all the time we want to make bring us a good impression. And most dont want to take our viewers for watching us here are you see next time . Remember . Well, breaking news to the backdrop of mass protests, the all media and president pool for the government to resign. Not a parliamentary elections to be called. If it is a week of public anger, i hope they all mean azerbaijan peace deal, ending the conflict in the know what i have kept calling and play. Meanwhile, displaced onto the new deal. Media is forced out of the areas now under the control of us by john tad town and towards home. They say they dont want to leave them for what they see as the enemy. We have a good life. Now we are tearing down the houses. We built up so i know one thing for sure. I wouldnt even want my, anybody to find himself in a situation like this. It is very hard, but we do not have any other choice