Newborn a region. Very warm welcome to the program from all of us here at our teach q. In moscow. Thanks for joining us for global news update this hour. Our says foreign minister has given his response to long running allegations that i would say the ball. He was poisoned with a nerve agent. Speaking of an International Conference or gala brought stress before leaving russia for germany back in august, opposition figure had tested negative for toxins, and he could have been targeted after his departure. We have every reason to believe that what happened to him in terms of Chemical Warfare agents getting into his body could have happened in germany were on the plane and was she was flown to the Charity Hospital . I think the key issue is that the russian doctors who initially treated mr. Valma in the city of told repeatedly said no talks of materials found on owning hayden. But shortly after and of ali was transported to germany. We started hearing about that all the chalk family nerve agent, and i guess i cant say for sure again, but i guess mr. Lover of just tried to explain this sudden tweets. Do you know cleary samples in russia, toxic samples in germany . It wasnt just germany by the way, france and sweden, shortly after that joint base chorus and cited also saying about navi chalk and russia was very quickly accused of using a nerve agent a banned chemical substance and was very quickly punished with a whole package of economic sanctions approved by the whole of e. U. And mr. Lover of today expressed his concerns about the behavior from so called park ness of russia that he called unreliable these western partners. And he said russia had prepared sanctions against germany and friends in response to this behavior. It is difficult for me to understand the motives of our german targets, but i already told this to her and i can repeat this. Its not a secret. Germany took the role of a leader in the new escalation of relations with the russian federation. There will of course be a response to saying thats you. And since germany was the driving force behind these e. U. Sanctions over the nerve on the case. And since these sanctions directly affect high ranking stouffers of the russian president s administration, we will respond in kind and as mr. La stressed today, and there was never, it was never proved russias involvement was never solved any prove, there was no, any added and some never got any access to. That fact that lead western countries to this conclusion that russia had this nerve agent. And this is why mr. Lubbers today called this whole situation a circus. So i guess like russias rising, well, exactly as you were saying, there, russia repeatedly requested to see the data, but they never got any access to it, correct . Yes, when russia and this is another source of concerns and disappointment, of course, from the russian side, that this is what repeated today. Again, when russia requested to have any information on him, like to see the samples, to see the documents that proves the toxic materials allegedly found in samples. Russia was denied. And when russia addressed to germany, germany said you have to talk to w. And this is the German Foreign minister mr. Mas talking about this i would like to reiterate that we do not expect to be criticized. It would be a deal with the news from c w. Its no good as a show that the russian side can approach to ask for the question. Ironically when russia addressed to the p. C. W, it was sent back to germany. And i guess this is why mr. Lopper of called this circus because i mean, this ping pong cannot be like, syria is the back and forth going nowhere whatsoever. So what could this all mean for russias future role as a member of the o. P. C. W . Yeah, we hear russias concerns about this whole organization and the attitude of the member countries, and we just heard recently from russias permanent member to un, mr. Baines, and that russia is considering to leave this organization. I will be blunt, the o. P. C. W. s technical secretary is increasingly turning into a tool in the west. Hams which is being used to exert informational and political pressure on countries to toe the line. This conclusion is backed up by the watch dogs involvement in the russian campaigns with the screen case and now with the alleged poisoning of a mix. So as you can see, we have sanctions now prepared against germany and france. Russia is considering to leave the o. P. C. Getting very serious. But again, as mr. Lover of said today, russia is just responding to their western countries behavior. Lets give you some background to the story. Alex in a volley is a problem that activists and critic of the russian government. He fell sick on the 20th of august on board a plane flying from the siberian city of tomsk to moscow. Aircraft made an Emergency Landing in the city of homs and mr. Not only was taken to a local hospital, he was put into an induced coma and remained in for 2 days. The samples were sent to several russian laboratories. They were and has another of them found traces of any toxins in his system. Him on his family insisted his life would be in danger if he stayed in russia and arranged for his transportation to a top clinic in berlin. In early september, German Authorities concluded that not only had been poisoned with a nerve agent from the know be choucroute. Him on this, lets bring in maximillian across a german member of the European Parliament Sergey Lavrov suggested the money might have been poison in or on the way to germany. Do you expect that remark to damage moscows relations with berlin . When i heard 1st that russia is bringing to claim, i think was not true, but i should laugh about or take a very serious because of course, i understand that russia is very angry about the accusations against russia. And i fully understand that there is a Movement Just to, to play the game the other way round. But for me, my, my greatest concern or my, my most serious concern is to german russian relationship. Especially concerning does got gas project and all 3 into. And i didnt thing that new development is really in favor and is really helpful for us. So i understand russia is sick accuse ations which almost ridiculous, but im not really convinced that is smart and smooth. We also know that russia is preparing tit for tat sanctions against german and french officials for the ones that they imposed against russia after this all broke earlier in the year. And theyre expected to be fairly low key, just travel bans for a few officials. But do you see this escalating or stopping here . We are in the end this spiral of sanctions. And i doing thi, where this might lead to, on the one hand we have to end tire russian sanctions, which is seen widely as ridiculous and unfair, even in the german public mult, in the Political Class. But among the majority of the people, there is no support for do sanctions. And now russian is doubling. Doing take fortec if that helps to get rid of those sanctions in general, it would be very successful. But if there would lead to 2 new countermeasures against russia, it would be to your priest said, avoid, we want. So its a dangerous game. And politicians usually dont like danger. Did he try to bring people together and to avoid risk and death said im not really happy about this development. I understand the position, but im not happy with it. And i hope that the plan will work that we come out of the spiral of sanctions. But from what i think, and what i see here in brussels and in berlin is that it may, could harm the relationship even more and get a result that no one wants. Moscow says that berlin has been refusing to grant access to crucial data regarding that of army case. Do you think that the German Government should have been more open about what they have . Of course they should. It is their who play and the whole plot on the volley is shaming. Germany is doing a lot of accusations against russia, but is not delivering evidence and take and take an extract, the american examples or the german public and the german political is very, very openly criticizing president triumph for the accusing of voter fraud Election Fraud without having valid evidence, but compared to in the money case, i mean, trump has a safe case. So you cant blame another country and to a large country, a strong country, a great country, like russia for being officially criminal without delivering substantial evidence. And that is what happens in berlin, blame russia for being behind this, whatever cause it is, but they do bring evidence that you can prove. And so im very critical to what the handling of that case by did to him and Political Class by the government. And im fully with the russian authorities who demand stronger evidence. And i said earlier in this channel, i dont think that germany vill the liver the evidence, except there is a lot of public pressure on the government. Unfortunately, we dont have seen this public pressure and germany did not deliver the evidence or so we have a claim against russia into space without evidence. But this claim is used to damage our relationship with russia, which is a situation i dont like. And i oppose strongly but the, but the possibilities i have as a member of parliament. But now russia is a little bit thick fortec doubling it. My concern is that it will make the situation more difficult even harder to solve that involves before, but we will see things develop in addition to all that, we also heard the possibility of russia leaving the o. P. C. W. How significant a move would that be i think that this Organization Needs russia, ward and russia needs the organization. So that is indeed i think a good way to make a little bit pressure and to, to stop these unfair accusations. And i, personally, im not a very big fan of Unlimited International organizations that no one really knows and no one really knows what they are doing. But they have a lot of power. So, making a little bit pressure on such an organization that has began its own life and became become, become and came birth of certain political ideas is always a good idea. So i can only congratulate russia for bringing that on it. And to make clear nation like russia is not willing to accept everything on its own cost. And from my perspective, you will most get results because an organization, she gains chemical weapon and to control chemical weapons without one of the military superpowers. And the way to powers of the United Nations the office space to use that could bring them back on a more rational approach on disk case. So i will follow it with interest and a lot of sympathy. Maximillian crowd, german member of the European Parliament. Thank you for joining us on the program today. Parts of the u. S. Mainstream media are seeking to eliminate all doubt that joe biden won the race to the white house going so far as to brand reports on probes into alleged voter fraud. As misinformation come up and explains questioning the u. S. Election results is tantamount to sack relig. The media is outraged that anyone would talk about ballot fraud, especially this New York Times columnist. Facebook is absolutely teeming with right wing misinformation right now. These are all among the 10 most engaged on the platform of the post 24 right wing information. So what is this misinformation that he feels is so dangerous and unacceptable and that well, perhaps the reason that this information is deemed to be so dangerous is because those headlines are actually true. And what about this guy . 2nd, pennsylvania u. S. P. S. Whistleblower claims postmaster ordered late ballots picked up and separated. While the Washington Post came forward and said, this is all a big hoax that the postal worker has recanted his story. Well, thats a great journalistic expose, except the postal worker says he has not recanted there to say that i did not read my statements. Head of the Republican National Committee Says they have 234 pages containing 500 signed affidavits alleging 11000 incidents of potential voter fraud. Now you have a media thats rigging it again by saying were not going to listen to these stories. Were not even to validate. The 11000 incident reports that we have, the 500 affidavits we have across the state. 11000 witnesses is not a small number. Now in georgia, Senate Runoff elections are coming up and another New York Times columnist has this idea. Everybody moves to georgia, you know, in the next month or 2 registers to vote and vote for these 2 democratic senators. Well, in georgia, that is actually a felony. It is illegal to woo to georgia simply for the purpose of registering to vote. Only people in georgia with the stablished residency are able to vote. Republicans have a lot of questions about the Election Results that showed joe biden as the clear winner. Now at this point weve got Mainstream Media saying those questions are simply off limits. However, that seems to be making the trump base even more of a bold r. T. New york issue of voter fraud remains highly debated with many believing its been going on for ages while others demand concrete evidence. If there is fraud in what the courts want to see is brought, you have to have a public particularly quare, which means that who, what, when, why, where or how . Ok . So if there is fraud, where is it . You cant make conclusory allegations and thats what hes doing. And thats why its lawsuits are falling short. Thats what, thats what its really hard up. Its bring it for the democrats. Every time they lose an election and immediately cry foul. This is going on for decades. But when the republicans lose the election, then the they are immediately expected to accept defeat. At the very time when the democrats are saying no problems, no parole that took place. Anyone whos claiming that was brought up and there is fear is that they should be actually actively perpetrating a fraud by saying go down to georgia for a golfing holiday. And then when the foreman, so youre a legal resident, that this provides the uproar the change of u. S. President could mean a change of fate for Julian Assange. And wiki leaks, founder is currently in a u. K. Prison, waiting for a court to decide whether or not to extradite him stateside, and of the trumpet ministration. He was charged under the u. S. Espionage act. On 18 counts. Hes accused of unlawfully obtaining and publishing state secrets and if extradited faces up to 175 years in prison. Democrats biden included, havent pulled their punches when discussing a songe in the past. Because you can also, hes a high tech terrorist. Others say this is akin to the pentagon papers where you kind of, i would argue that its closer to the high tech terrorists. And then the pentagon papers disguise a traitor, a treasonous, and he has broken every law of the united states. The guy ought to be, im not for the death penalty. So if im not for the death penalty, want to do it illegally shoot the son of a cancer or with the dog cart and fox, the Obama Biden Administration actually prosecuted. More whistleblowers than any other list includes. Chelsea manning who leaks documents to Julian Assange and edward snowden, who lifted the lid on the and i say its mass surveillance programs for the Obama Administration decided not to charge a songe himself. Earlier my colleague neil harvey spoke to us on his former legal representative julian burnside. He said that the future looks brighter for the wiki leaks founder and president joe biden. I know that hes written lation to Hillary Clinton affected the democrats rather than the republicans. But in my opinion, joe biden is a much more rational being that donald trump, if it was. How would you assess joe bidens approach towards whistleblowers . I know that when he was Vice President in the president ial year, a bomber had made a big thing about, you know, trying to create opportunities for whistleblowers to encourage them. But actually, the reality was quite different and they prosecuted more whistleblowers, i think, than any other ministration prior to them. I still think that robert biden will adopt a rational approach. Mind you, he will not be president of the 4th of january, so i suspect theyre on 4th of january. If biden is ultimately accepted as the president , i think that going to be a better outcome for than it would otherwise be on the trump. Part of the reason why assad is in the predicament he is because of the leaking of information, private information relating to the Democratic Party by an obviously democrat, to think all will be forgiven and forgotten to well to the next stents, or will that still bay some kind of goods from the party itself. Its worth remembering that Chelsea Manning received a pardon or commutation from a bomber. And i think the same thinking that led to that result is likely to influence biden, if he becomes president. And if sandy ends up in america, theres talk of the likelihood hell be sent to this supermax prison, which a warden previous warden of not prison said in the face were worse than death being sent there. Its a pretty horrible prospect. And the way Chelsea Manning was treated in relation to the same matters or related matters gives no confidence about the way sound will be treated. Its a reason why this train government should come in and help him, but theyve done nothing absolutely nothing to help him. I think we should be concerned about about if hes mistreated, i dont see any leader of the mainstream press, who is sought to be punished as a result of the publication of things that the british calls for donald trump. To concede the election are getting ever a louder, but democrats appear to forgotten that in 2016, they too found it hard to accept a projected loss artist Daniel Hawkins compares then. And now, despite the heated rhetoric fierce debate, certain downright insults in the run up to the election, one thing remains untouchable, the integrity of the vote counting process and certification by president biden. Final question for you will, you were urged your supporters to stay calm while the voters counted and will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently sort of . Yes, but as the race went, merican meg with supporters on both sides, claiming victory was within their grasp. The rules of the game changed, sir. What do you say to the americans that are inches over the fact that President Trump has yet to concede and what that might mean for the country . Well, i just think its a baseless claims by the president and his supporters, that theres been widespread voter fraud and that the election was somehow rigged or stolen from President Trump. That kind of rhetoric is extremely dangerous, extremely poisonous to our democracy. If i were an Intelligence Analyst in a foreign country looking at the united states, you know, id be, id be writing up the slow slide into autocracy. There was a time when democrats saw things differently and their candidates lost by more Electoral College votes than this election was viewed as an injustice. As ive been telling candidates who have come to see me, you can run the best campaign. You can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you. The kremlin was allegedly behind that election result helping trump to power several years and millions of dollars later, an investigation concluded there was no criminal conspiracy. Yet now the biden is projected, so when the results are accepted at face value, and this time the presidency was a power and he won fair and square. All weve seen so far in the us is the Mainstream Media, which of course has been behind your biden 1000 percent declaring on their own. That joe biden is the president elect with Democratic Party for 4 years and still not conceded that Hillary Clinton lost in 2016 no matter what they did, no matter how they tried to steal the election from trump. At the time they invented russia, great to try to 1st, undermine, then candidate, then went from one to undermine its presidency if it wanted to part with you. And if you want to live in the democrat, but even if biden didnt win, the democrats had a back up plan. No surrender. Joe biden should not concede under any circumstances, because i think this is going to drag out. And eventually i do believe he will win if we dont get him. And now the tables are turned with trump refusing to concede his opponent, so willing to go to just about any links to see the back of him, plus present tense. The cabinet had an ounce of fortitude and spine and patriotism. I think they would seriously consider booking the 25th amendment and pushing donald trump out and calls from the democrats who spent almost the entire term looking for evidence the election was stolen. For trump to accept defeat and move on, looked like double standards at best. Left out have any law . No lockers about how the president should immediately sure are probably going to Election Results from the same characters or just spent 4 years refusing to follow to develop a larger who and sony awaited the 1st one would be illegitimate coup if they lost again only if they all, many armenians are furious about their countrys peace deal with azerbaijan, seeing it as a humiliating defeat. For the last 2 days, 11 has been gripped by on rest, with protesters, calling on the Prime Minister to step down. And these are pictures from the armenian capital from today, protesters are gathering near the Parliament Building where there is a heavy police presence. Arrests have been made over the past few days. We couldnt cross live to journalist joe, no sense in whos in year of whats the situation there right now, joe . So i mean Freedom Square which in the city center and about a 1000 people gathered here in the last hour, multiple protests across the city. But with 1000 people here, just going to disperse. I asked one gentleman to deceive the purchaser. Traditionally, for the day he said, yes, i promise, well be back tomorrow. What kind of demands have they been making . Are . Have they told you anything else about what they plan on doing . At the moment, it just seems like they want to be Prime Minister nicole passion and to resign the chant of the protests has been and if there was a traitor, its worth bearing in mind. These protests are largely organized by opposition. Parties, many of whom on empower themselves and asking people, you know, do over the last few days what they want, they want, they not actually had a clear answer on which its exceeds the question. Yeah. But they just know that they want him to resign. Has there been any sense of relief over there being a truce . Call this the so it is certainly the voice, but i think its been definitely crowded out by this minority of protesters. Im not sure if that is the majority of you know, i think people are quite in shock of the facts, all the peace there was announced the message of the, of the war, the 44 days of the war. Was it the cost of doing it . We will win and theres been a little shock amongst all armenians, that this was the kind of situation i would i would it have been based journalist, joan s. S. E. And thank you for bringing us that report a. Ringback former diplomat, jeremy kinsmen who worked as the canadian ambassador to armenia explain to us why hes optimistic about the peace deal. When you have a narrative that goes back decades, when you have the best nick group, if you want that lives in 2 countries. And when and when leaders whipped up nationalist sentiment, it becomes very, very difficult because its very emotional. And theres nothing wrong with patriotic commotion when they are directed with such hostility. Toward the other side, from both people inherit generation to generation a narrative. And it takes, it takes great creativity to, to counsel people to, to learn again, to live together. Its going to depend on the extent to which russian leaders change the complete cooperation of the leaders of the 2 countries. In the end, 2000 and very well trained, Russian Troops will be very effective. But what will be most effective will be self discipline. On the part of the 2 sides, and i think that can only be obtained through communication from us. Thats our global news update for this hour. But dont forget you can always follow us on twitter or facebook for absent reports
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