Now here she is. See the court is in there, right. Would you bring that phone cord in . The guys somebody up, you know, not only did kareem bring that in, but he brought it in and drop the other. Another portion of it in the purse. Thats yes, thats absurd. I bet what happens here is she says he knocks her out on the Kitchen Floor and theyre like, it doesnt work, doesnt work, renee, not good enough. Didnt, didnt he do in the living room . Look at this photo, look, i want to see you. Oh yeah. That certainly doesnt sit with renees not concise. No, i want to see your little place before. I think you heard that some wishful thinking. Mike. I dont think there is a real police report. I mean, i just dont maybe they sort of knew they were names, confession was not so good or not true. And so they didnt really want kareem because they didnt really believe that he was there. That or that it happened like that. And so if they get him in there and then they could end up with nobody one taking on a case like renes, the danger is always the case, evidence or other crime scene evidence has not been preserved. If theres no crime scene evidence, or case evidence, then theres nothing to d. N. A. Test. And if theres no d. N. A. To test, its extremely hard to prove that your client is innocent. Thats from the ukraine. In renes piece, it was a very bloody crime scene. The murder weapon was never found, but there was a purse that had a bloody fingerprint in it, and there was a drawer in the bedroom with a bloody fingerprint on it. They d. N. A. Tested some things, but not those. And the only d. N. A. Found at the crime scene was the victims phone. And you know, the, i think out of 41. 00 pieces of evidence, they tested 7 for d. N. A. And so, you know, theyre in trouble right at trial because you cant get convicted on your own confession alone. So they go and they try to round up, jailhouse snitches, but only one worked so it was her confession, and a jailhouse snitch, which is so common in false confession cases and you have the confession and then the extra evidence because theres no physical evidence and the corroboration to the confession is snitch. I know by your name, i am not. Ok to call you ok. Who do you mind if i said this is all good. Thats ok. You know already i dont have a stream for you for the body will feel fine. No writing will try and do you remember interacting with any of the Police Officers back then . Mr. Rake, as judy was name was very, it is some of my impression looking back that thank you all here. Shes guilty. Well, shes guilty and he go make sure you know who sometimes it was a bloody crime. So now we know i was my last years eve d. N. A. So these are all somebody else to be how i was also one of the things thats one of the things that we hope to be able to do is retest. The d. N. A. Theres knowledge, she has no chance, some cases we get and we look at them and we, even if we believe the person is innocent, we can say, well, i mean theres just for a variety of reasons, nothing we can do. Theres something we can do here. But not a lot of people get exonerated. Do you really are useless. And the reality is this workout chanted, reach around. I just want to talk to you because im helping rene trying to get her out. Can we come by . We want to drive to dont just talk to me. I think you so much we need to ask most the most important thing to me is so how she was what her actions, what the police were coming out with young with on drugs. You know, and i live with me every day and he didnt have a car with a promise you anything like where youre going to get out to let me out no matter where when you write right . I want to get out. And so you actually did get out. Thank you. We really appreciate it. Ok, so thats good. Thats helpful. Being the greedy move lets renzo montoya. Heres one 0 time was right now is when you will to hear a little reading of the worst person being interviewed. Lauren stone, more and more to the end of montoya was arrested in the year 2000 and accused of a murder of a young schoolteacher in denver. Hes 14 years old lorenzo when this happened, and he is tiny, like maybe 110 pounds on a one year old or near the overlap between male and lorenzo is a mountain they tell him theres these videotapes that show him abusing children, which there arent in lorenzos. They actually go as far as to have him take his shoes off and they do this whole charade where this very angry cop comes back in with the shoe and says, well, im a shoe print expert, and your shoe matches the print at the crime scene. Was untrue youre going to be sent away. Your daughter already in there as you well the days are at rest. And its going to have to go to one of the windows. Were you there so you are there goals for the daily rooms of your a very, very well for you. There are your friends a lot of firms if you are there, thats interesting. You can say we had your blood, we had your saliva, we have the to be tested. Basically, right . There is a bar usually the only thing is a little unusual in the United States police a permitted to lie about evidence and say right out of order that we have a lot of fast that is a shocking discovery to most people. Most western countries dont permit it. The u. S. Supreme Court Permits it. So consequently you have 2 detectives making it seem as if we have independent evidence. They something very specific about what that evidence is telling us that you were involved in something. Theyve already started that its shaping process, and the mother already is believing it. L. Look forward to talking to you all. That technology should work for people. I robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the 1st law show your identification for should be very careful about artificial intelligence. And the point, obesity is to create trusts, conflict take on various jobs and with artificial intelligence. Will summon the demon of the obamas protect its own existence. Lets go next to this is a story of women, women with troubled histories and complex court cases. You know, some of us did leave leave who lives out there where not even the, person that theres a cheesiness and b. , they are considered the most dangerous of criminals. Shes in a still all be off, 23 hours of the day. Tell me that its not enough punishment. It will do the women on death row. Is your media a reflection of reality . In a world transformed what will make you feel safe from the isolation or community . Are you going the right way, or are you being led somewhere to direct . What is true . What is right . In the world corrupted, you need to descend to join us in the depths. Or a maybe in the shallowness. Zillah going to see both of you. Dead already is a little bit, isnt it . Is it true that the brain is you that you are sure you know that even better to savor it. So you did you mean mistake . So he just introduced the word mistake. Hes about to develop this theme that enables lorenzo to admit some degree of involvement while minimizing his own role as part of a package of techniques that in which you communicate to is suspect that i think youre a good person. I understand what youve been through. I sympathize with what youve been through. Often you hear normalising statements like, you know water. If i were in your situation, i would have done the same thing. And all, by the way, i dont think you intended to do this. I think it was an accident or maybe your friends put you up to it, or maybe you were provoked me to feel that it was the red zone. I dont do that. I havent done it. I did want to jack the car into one that did the communication moves in one direction. It is designed to leave the person the suspect. Think the police dont think this is such a big deal and therefore be treated with leniency. Ok, so one of my choices, either i can be the accomplice who refuses to speak, or i can admit to what they want me to admit to, given all of the minimisation that theyve given me and enjoy the benefit of that. Who are going to go . You know, how do you presume theyre going to do that big look at how much they have communicated already. He now knows so much about this crime that whether he was there or had anything to do with it or not, he now knows enough about it to give you a description. So why are you here . Were here at sleaze house through the computer, and here nature jr, who kicks you in the head. Of course, the building a story for him to tell or is it, you know, a great ridge those shoes wrote part of the dre shoes. Brazill position. Your job is just right. Hes now being set up. So that when hes ready to give a statement, he knows exactly what that statement should convey that. Again, you know, hes kicked in the head shoe dragging her through the blood. Hes got a call, so later a judge and the jury is going to watch the final confession and theyre going to be so impressed and unable to look past that because they keep on asking themselves what happened. You know, those things if he was in there, right . Stare me down. Oh, you need to back up. I just stand here. I want your prior 5 minutes. You wait it up, you know, youre not going home tonight. I can guarantee you that. And they do not put you in Juvenile Hall or her, which will be boys, you know, talk now or say goodbye to your mom. Its a pretty clear and your cousin and your sister. It your goal and your life. Because youre ready to do what kim and in this person do solve the situation. And he said, i guess you could hold out rank for everyone. You just fall down doesnt everybody have a breaking point . So we must he was imprisoned for 14 years, so he got out at 28. He was in solitary confinement for 4 years because when he goes into a grown up prison, hes 14 and he cant be in with the general population. So he goes to solitary confinement for 4 years, for 14 to 18, lorenzo was exonerated, and we have a similar right suit pending for him. And the opposition are, you know, theyre, theyre moving to have the case dismissed based on qualified immunity for that. And if youre being interrogated, youre not being interrogated because theyre just looking for information youre being interrogated because they want you to confess. So today we have a 1st on wrongful conviction, which is that we have a retired n. Y. P. D. Homicide detective, among other things, current private investigator. Im pleased to introduce you j. Sol. Peter, welcome. Thank you very much and thank you for having me. So are we going to get this fixed a we believe a remedy seems like a long shot to me its going to take forever. Well, the beginning is basically that all, you know, all interrogations are video and audiotapes. And i think that would stop at least 75 percent of these fools confessions, i dont know how youre going to get away with it. Im a but a criminal Justice System as a store looking at prosecutor is we review which false, confessions, faster with making noise that make prosecutor culpable . I mean thats the frustration with the civil rights work is that the prosecutors are always absolutely immune. It doesnt matter what they did, they could have gotten right and punched the kid in the face and they would, we cannot get any liability. And of course the police are allowed to use trickery. And i know every defense attorney in the world is against that. So we talked about how out of these 4 cases have all been exonerated, you know, her case remains active in june and shes been in prison now for 20 years. And her son grew up without a mom. She, you know, he has his grandkids now that shes never met other than on a phone through glass. If she said to heart attacks while shes been in prison and its probably not getting the right medical treatment for that. You know, were just hoping that you know, time could be on our side and we can get her out sooner rather than later. But i mean, she is a, a life thats wasted. Good morning. How are you . How is your heart out. A i know you dont deploy yourself together, its ok. I understand and i know that its taking a lot of time but we dont want to mess it up, renee, going to get one shot at this. So just hang in there. I promise you there will be and i hope its a good one, but there wont be any and develop their missing their season is nigger matters and it seemed to her those 2 new system is missing. The biggest turns into when not there is a city where you do really you believe that god bless. Does he in any way, blame himself for i think so. Control ending and confessing, they all knew that. But my own observations from talking to wrongfully convicted people is those who were wrongfully convicted by confession are not doing as well. The stigma they attach to themselves, they feel weak, national, stupid, they dont understand what happened, how to done that to themselves. And even when the convictions overturned, if the reason they were convicted of the confession as opposed to something else, the stigma that attached to them the state, even after they were exonerated, right, people are not quite 100 percent. Sure, right. Yet the confession is so powerful that even ever in supposed to evaporate. So cory, today is, hes living well, right. He got a huge settlement, but it doesnt take away those demons in his head. You know, hes, he was in from 16 to almost 30. So what are you now when you come out . Hes never going to have the mental peace and rest that you know you and i can probably accomplish sometimes. But if he has lost his whole family, theres no relationship with them really. And thats something that the then why m. P. T. In the city in the prosecution took away from him. Right . That money cant replace. When you come back to society, you dont. You dont know what to do in cherry. You dont know what to do or your brain will be the morning star over here. John no longer, you know, whatever the journey may be. If youre going to stand in the hollows, you know, from wonder really is a problem that, you know is systemic. Its a problem that victimizes, a lot of people. You have the person who falls in compresses whose life is ruined. You have their family, whose lives are ruined. You have the victim. If theyre still alive and the victims family who think theyre getting justice, but theyre not. And then you have multiple other problems that come from this main one being that by definition, when we walk up the wrong guy, we stop looking for the right guy. Its really a, its a, its a tremendous challenge. I think its a cultural problem. We need a whole societal education about this. Our criminal Justice System is based on the premise that its better for 10 guilty. People to go free than one innocent person to go to prison. Right. I mean, that is a fundamental concept of the american Justice System. But i think that the lying is one of the main things that over there somebody is. Well, i just guess the courts dont get it. Every story of a false confession is not just a story that gets at the question of why in gods name, the innocent person doesnt cry and he or she didnt commit. Its the 2nd story in the 2nd story line is how come the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, the appeals court. All mr. Here is now able to research actual cases, laboratory studies, field studies. And in 100 plus years of basics like culture tells us when you lie to people about evidence, you know why the people about reality. You can change their perceptions and change their memories. Or you can change just about every aspect of the called function of the british human. But its more of a disparate point. You know, because will snoop wolf who wish to be lovable was she who are sure to put a gun to go with us because all of those who used to be game we will see in the movie confused with who weve seen in the news but its the most severe, some of it is in your speech, come home and use the in the 20th century was being in a revolution the Great Depression and world war, the 21st century of mental illness. Those arent my words. Thats what service some psychiatry is. 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