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I mention are times they were going underground as who becomes the new socalled leader of the free world is decided through litigation coming up on the show so were going to continue the lawsuit here were going to ring a 2nd one and then were going to bring a federal lawsuit and were going to take a very good look at whether we bring this nationally we certainly are going to bring it here and wisconsin quite possibly will do a National Lawsuit and really exposed the corruption of the Democrat Party but this is beyond anything ive ever seen before this comes when you think you have so much power and you own the media. That you can do anything you want if you count the legal votes i easily win if you count the illegal votes they can try to steal. The election from us if you count the votes that came in late were looking at them very strongly but a lot of votes came in late ive already decisively won many critical states including massive victories in florida iowa indiana ohio to name just a few we won these and many other victories despite a historic election into fears from big media big money and big tech. Heads to the courts to salvage his presidency lawyer and author of the case against impeaching trump professor Alan Dershowitz tells us why dont trump may soon win a 2nd term in court oh were keeping the well we have the oil the oil the secure we left troops behind only for the oil now i can take you to any part of the world and we put in 2300000 or 150000 troops we cant absolutely and the carnage. But were there and in the wake of an election that will arguably do nothing to change the course of us imperialism what can we learn from the United States history about a pretext for war and regime change we ask jaipur shot about the washington bullets catalyzing global con its all the more coming up in todays going underground fast as trump goes to the courts to try and win a 2nd term im joined now from massachusetts by lawyer and author of the case against impeaching trump professor Alan Dershowitz who says the law may favor Donald Trump Thanks so much for coming back on why do you think trump may win in the courts. Well it depends on how he loses in the states if you lose is the election by losing pennsylvania theres a strong argument that his lawyers d can make that pennsylvania should not count ballots that came in late its a technical argument but its the argument that prevailed in bush versus gore and there are already 3 or 4 justices who agree with that argument but it would take a combination of circumstances during the election to bring that case into a posture where you would win in the court so i think its unlikely he will prevail in the courts but thats his best shot you brute media myths about Different Cases time and time again over your decades in law what an impact do you think the socalled Mainstream Media is going to make on the case they seem to have already decided that joe biden is the president of the United States while the media mostly engages in Wishful Thinking and theyre often wrong because they substitute was they hope will happen for a careful analysis of what will happen and you know the most likely outcome obviously is that biden gets elected with more than 270. 00 electoral votes and he wins in court if you have to be betting money thats where you have to be betting but with our judicial system its impossible to predict the outcome what sort of time scale are we talking about will be about a month as it was in 2000 with bush and gore. If it turns out that that biden wins the election without pennsylvania i think well have a result within weeks not months if pennsylvania becomes a key state then i think it will take months do you think trump always had in mind the 300 judges that were appointed under his Administration Given that he had already been suspecting vote tampering. Well i think he there are a lot of reasons why he wanted to appoint lots of judges his base wants conservative judges but i think part of the reason may very well have been as a backstop as a protection in the event that he had to take the election to court any president would think in those terms how is the average american supposed to understand what on earth is going on you may know that social Media Company twitter is already throttling the ability to share tweets made by President Trump about the election well twitter is violating its own d terms you know it gets exemption from defamation suits gets a supposed to be only a platform but its become a publisher and it decides what goes in and what stays out and it decides whether to flag tweets or not thats not its job and i think the American Public is getting fed up with the social media and them being exempt from theyre above the law in some ways and yet they act in a way thats inconsistent with the law of easy twitter denies and says its a its changing all the time as to its policies as regards politics what do you think the role of lawyers will be on behalf of trump we had his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani on the program hes been giving press conferences in philadelphia to the press will you be helping the case or do you see that it will be giuliani and his team who will be defending the. Trump president it will be giuliani it is chamber ive known really for a bite in the 30 or 40 years ive done my duty to the president of the United States of america by defending him against the unconstitutional impeachment charge on this issue im going to just sit back and watch d i have my own podcast or analyze the case and i will be an observer and a commentator but not a participant its a historical now what he was telling us on the program was about to biden and making extraordinary allegations about the president s son and. Well maybe the president and certainly the president future President Biden himself why do you think it didnt make any headway on the news channels in the United States and a polling day well i think some of the news channels didnt cover it if there were an anti biden they covered it if they were pro by and they didnt cover it thats a tragedy. That you dont get objective news it should have been covered it should have been investigated its a serious charge but the media if theyre pro biden just say its an uncorroborated and done document the charge and the other sides acts as if its totally d proven its a charge worthy of being investigated and i suspect it will be investigated if and when joe d biden becomes president by what do you feel in the night when youre watching florida declare so decisively. Relative to 2000 and the other states coming in i was surprised i voted in florida and i thought florida d d would be much closer as it has been in the past the remarkable thing about this election is how little has changed over the past 4 years obviously the country has changed dramatically but the vast majority of states voted the same way d they did 4 years ago then difference in the popular vote d about 3000000. 00 is about the same as it was the only difference is a handful of states which. Los all actions went the other way and that will determine the outcome of the election supporters of trump say he shouldnt have given that press conference on the night saying there is fraud and waited a little bit do you think that will affect any Court Outcome because he was alleging both before it even before the election and of course on the night rather than saying this is the state of play at the moment well wait and see i dont think that kind of statement affects the courts it was done after the polls will close so i think it was just him saying what he believed and i dont think it will have any impact either electorally or judicially not just finding out Something Different i know youve been accused of being brought to the epstein sex trafficking right scandal we had a guy on who worked for Israeli Intelligence who made a claim that amp steen and maxwell were israeli spies anything that you knew of the daily mirror pension fund being used to finance epstein and Israeli Intelligence being involved i am totally convinced that bass completely false was false as the accusations against me and my case the accusations we have emails that my accuser tried to suppress and which she admits she never met me we have her lawyer and take it meaning that she was wrong we have the f. B. I. Former f. B. I. Investigating it i have been totally completely exonerated and the proof is overwhelming that my use of the whole story and i think people making up stories about them aside i dont think theres any truth to that at all why do you think people who knew epstein im actually saying things like that. Well you know hes a mysterious character people known all on about him visited me once in israel i think it was the only time he was ever at israel he didnt seem to know anybody there i arranged d a lunch for him at the time before i do anything wrong or anything improper that he had done i arranged a lunch with him with the judges and justices and important people he had never met any of those people i cant imagine that he had any contact with israel but its easy to make up stories and i think the media has an obligation to check those stories ive asked the f. B. I. To investigate me and investigate my accuser one of us should be charged with perjury and it obviously should be her because i never met her she made up all story i think we have to be so cautious about epstein related stories because people are so inclined to make them up specially now these deadness no opportunity to respond im not here are going for epstein what he did what i found out he afterward is terrible but d i didnt know about it most people who know him didnt know about it before but i doubt he had any connection to any Intelligence Agency why do you think the media are more interested in the story than the hunter biden alleged corruption. And should be why news about a man who will be president of the United States the other d is a bad enough secure financial guy is dead 1 but one is salacious the other is not and i think the media follow salacious stories and they dont investigate properly if they investigated the accusations against me with the same or here that theyve investigated other allegations they would dismiss them out of hand i hope they do imo im an open book ive done nothing wrong thats why im prepared to speak about it many of the other people have been accused arent prepared to speak about it but i have nothing to hide absolutely and i should ask you given the trump gave the Golan Heights illegally occupy the new u. N. Resolution to israel recognized jerusalem as the capital with the u. S. Embassy then what if my does become president will be us is. Relations the occupation of the go on hikes is completely totally lawful as a professor of law specializing in these kinds of issues i can assure you that capturing a battleship in an aggressive war waged against you and not giving it back is perfectly lawful the United States did the right then ok the are by Human Security Council Resolution is just wrong but well the un Security Council resolution is dead wrong and its been wrong in the past but but but as for why. He will stand by the decisions made by President Trump the only place well give you perhaps is on the iran deal where hell go back and try to get a better deal from iran but he wont reverse truce and we wont reverse the Golan Heights and he certainly wont reverse the Peace Process between israel and the gulf states which is a very positive development to israel as nothing different not that much difference between trump obama i think biden will d be better than obama but not quite as good for israel d as trump but i think biden will be fine ive known biden for 40 years hes always been pro israel generally and i think support for israel warming bipartisan among the democrats and the republicans with a few exceptions on the hard left of the Democratic Party professor around at uva thank you. Thank you from the brick washington ballots to washington bullets will the u. S. Election do little to impede the march of us imperialism we are off of egypt about assassinations in the name of democracy. Through of going underground. Welcome back regardless of the litigation now underway about this weeks contested u. S. President ial election some things arguably never change as the u. S. Military seeks to block chinese economic supremacies in as the u. S. Deep state seeks to neutralize rival powers im joined now by author and other division his new book washington bullets a history of the cia coups in assassinations is out now and he joins me from North Hampton in massachusetts thanks so much for going back on does it matter who wins obviously in some minute but as regards the issues in your new book. You know the issues of the u. S. Foreign policy u. S. Aggression towards countries like venezuela towards countries like cuba the difference is not only minimal its just not this is a bipartisan consensus whether you had a democratic president liberal democratic president or youve had a far right republican president theyve all tried to troll overthrow governments and they succeeded from the overthrow of Mohammad Mosaddegh in iran from 1053 do able morale is in bolivia 2019 theres been no difference you know when you look at the record of these people they all have a very similar attitude toward the world which is to use u. S. Power as much as possible to secure the basic you know advantage to american corporations and i dont see any difference in a Biden Administration between biden and trump there will be a difference in attitude you know a Trump Presidency was a presidency where mr trump essentially pushed people aside at International Meetings to get to the front of the line when hes photographed biden will be a little more polite but this politeness when bombs are being dropped on you is to my mind irrelevant ill get to the bullets in more detail but you mention even morale as. That he really has written the preface to your new book how do you think washington will react in the past few days its happened that even more as can return to that lithium superpower we often talk about the fact we all carry a bit of bolivia with us in our mobile phones thats well said we do carry a bit of bolivia with us in our mobile phones able morale is returned to bolivia the bolivian people stood up against a coup detat which they faced in november 29th its extraordinary action we havent really seen many examples of a coup detat happening and in a bow to the people he checked the coup government in a democratic process this struggle and they fight and they bring their own people back in power theres a major civil war lets say or a cold war ongoing in latin america between china and the United States and we mustnt underestimate this we saw this recently in el salvador with the president about salvador center right person went to china got a lot of deals on the way back to el salvador stopped off in tokyo japan she whispered in his ear and said dont cut a deal with china regarding the port the americans showed up they signed some deals with those out of putting a lot of pressure to break with china this is exactly what the bolivia story is about it will more or less be that did this country toward china they had a number of important deals in looting the chinese help putting a bulletin satellite into space called qatari satellite the americans were furious about this and they overthrew the the government so this cold war with chinas commercial interests in south america being pushed back by the United States not through its own commercial dealings because United States cannot actually compete commercially as you see with huawei and zte that d. Theyre using extra economic means to break the back of the chinese commercial developments in. These parts of the world and thats what were going to see again whether its a trump or biden ministration really and anybody administration because you see in Silicon Valley option not one silicone valley see or has come out condemn trumps trade war against china because they agree with the trade war because thats the only way they could compete with chinese high tech firms at this time but the bluefin example is really something to hold on to the people who helped fast our city had you know gasoline and red being thrown on her hair was cut and she looked at the camera and says we are not afraid and now shes been elected as a senator in the senate didnt believe you had something to hold our heads high for ok well we invite the u. S. Ambassador i dont know which one it might be in the next few days whether its the same one joke in washington obviously deny what youre saying they say was a formula and a constitution that even more or less was responsible for you mentioned bolivia che guevara was killed in bolivia by me tehran repeatedly told him he told the killer his own killer you are only killing a man with the idea that youre you know killing an idea you seem to disagree in this book washington bullets you believe washington bullets actually do have actions greater than jake of even so when i was a young person i was so enthusiastic about the rise to power in so then known as up of altar of a young man by the name of thomas and carter in 1903 some kind of came to power brought in very sensitive policies very progressive people into the administration you know he did something so intelligent he said on every wednesday women will not do any cooking not do any cleaning not do any washing weve got to teach men to take charge of the character on a mean side. The house it was at that level of sensitivity that he put policies in place in 1087. 00 he was assassinated it was killed the collusion of french intelligence the military in so and so on the in the highest some got a project at that moment lost confidence you know people lost confidence in the ability to move history forward the killing of some of the killing of lumumba that had a catastrophic effect on the National Liberation policy in the congo cond underestimate what it does how it shocks the psychosocial capacity of a people when their standard bearer is killed in cold blood and you know we can recite name after name after name the assassination of chris hani at the beginning of the South African experience after apartheid he was killed in 1904 going out to get a newspaper this major leader of the communist party. You know leader of the Workers Party in tunisia shot dead right when tunisia was moving out of ben alis regime these people dead dead it has an impact because it diminishes our feeling that we can move the streets guess millions of people and i dont want to underestimate that its not its not true that just a person is killed not an idea sometimes option the idea is killed so youre actually saying that these cia ling bullets are responsible for as you say in the book the richest 22 men in the world having more wealth than all the women of africa put together the one percent owning the wealth of 6900000000 people. Its not irresponsible by itself one washington bull it doesnt create a billionaire but it certainly helps you know for instance if the people of the congo were able to in 1061 have a political agenda in front of them with Patrice Lumumba leading their movement if they were able to create a sovereign country with control over the economy duty you wouldnt have call. A Company Based in switzerland essentially mining copper and cobalt out of that country and being the country very little being the people of congo which is that sub minimum so the 1000000000 is a created by the killing of you know important people in movements but also lets stick colombia were almost every day a social Movement Leader is assassinated we dont know all the names option thats the other thing but in a small look at or take the case of honduras when bush took a carriage was killed she was leading the fight to defend the people against you know it big dam project when she was killed the thought that it would minimize the impact or you know on the project a huge deal look at a project that backfired its not always the case that the killing the killing of lumumba for instance is going to have an impact which benefits the 1000000000 is sometimes it backfires it backfired in the one duras report to cook as is people continue to fight and that project is now put into some disarray so i mean its not a case every time you kill somebody somebody is going to make money but its often the case that when you kill somebody and you destroy the confidence of the people to fight for their basic rights theyre going to work generations for sub wages and other people are going to make billions that glencore example thats the last man that bill clinton pardoned the head of glencore mockery each. Well his company domiciled in switzerland and glencore moggridge say they have robust human rights practices in all their endeavors the book traces the i. M. F. The world bank the Marshall Plan and arguably corrupt foundation of the United Nations weve just had remembrance sunday here in the last 24 hours this book examines a white washing of history why do you think that no collective consciousness about well many people. I believe in iraq was the reason we ended world war 2 no one knows about dresden and the bombing arguably when they commemorate with their red poppies on their lapels world war 2 telling about the white washing well 1st i just want to say option that i dont have any problem with events like remembrance sunday because human beings went to war and they died and we should remember them because war is a horrible thing and nobody should be sent to it and whether youre on the side of the angels or not we should celebrate the death of people who died for nothing frankly but there is a lot of white washing of the system that produces war not the people themselves who go and sacrifice you know for instance in the United United Kingdom why hasnt the u. K. Government taken an incident like jelly l a bug when in 1919 british soldiers went into a square and killed over 300 unarmed people as they did an on peaceful protest that was a massacre conducted in certain 1900 why hasnt the British Government just apologized for that they dont apologize for it because if they apologize for it they have to knowledge the system of imperialism that benefited britain and continues to benefit britain theres a direct line option between the massacre at gela bug and be a systems selling its weaponry to saudi arabia as it bombs yemen if you apologize for the bug how are you going to so easily give be a systems the license to continue to saudi arabia to conduct 2020 level massacres in yemen and i think thats the issue with amnesia its not really amnesia its actually consideration for the continuation of those old policies into the present you dont look at it you dont look at dresden you dont look at the soviet red army coming across a great gadget. These to dick you know defeat the nazis or dont look at all that because you need to have a self image of britain as the shining star you have to have the image of the United States is someone exceptional untainted by the not students of history thats because you want to continue your nasty policies in the present and back it it is something you manage darian liberal and beautiful thats the cause of socalled amnesia and its something we need to you know talk about and explain that saying that im against this amnesia doesnt necessarily mean i want to denigrate you know you know and says still who died in some war somewhere not because they were the cause of benefited from it but because they were basically the foot soldiers well production is in your manual all regime jane which is included in this book i presume not prescriptively obviously be a systems would deny what you are saying they say theyre robustly equipping the Saudi Air Force as it. Continues to be involved in the world was humanitarian crisis they have given interviews i should say to business childs David Cameron we invite him on the show about white as an apologist for japanese at thank you thanks a lot and thats after the show will be back on monday 60 years to the day Democrat John f. Kennedy was voted in as president of the United States the youngest elected u. S. President in history and under whose presidency the arguably came closest to complete annihilation joining the cuban missile crisis until then catch all our interviews on you tube and dont forget to join me on the ground by following us on Twitter Facebook instagram sound. Projections put joe biden in the white house as the 46th u. S. President as the key state of pennsylvania declares more of its vote count Vice President elect come all of harris described the win as not just about us she sent her congratulations. Believe only did it. Here given the next president of the United States. Earlier donald trump declared victory for himself in the election there could still be a twist though as the republicans launch lawsuits over a late surge in postal ballots for biden. And the fallout from Election Night in america creates did