Here in about an hours time with a look at your Weekly Program thats coming up right here on our 2 International Stay with us. Were going on the road 2 days to go before an election in a country which has been militarily involved in 98 percent of all countries enough having invaded 84 of the uns 193 countries coming up in the show will trump lose in tuesdays president ial election thanks to coded killing hundreds of thousands of u. S. Citizens go to the white house to speak to one of the only 2 men the u. S. President apparently listens to the pandemic white house going to virus child school survives a professor. He tells us why he thinks lockdowns mass testing in mosques hold up all the more coming up in todays going on the ground 1st with just days ahead of the u. S. President ial election which will have a Global Impact as a global coronavirus pandemic continues to take lives not least in the United States itself lets go straight to the white house and speak to one of President Trumps closest coronavirus advisors professor scott atlas. Thank you so much god for coming on you interpret the data how bad is coded in the usa im sure you know that the democrat leaning Mainstream Media says its corona virus that could spell the end of the trump presidency. Ok well thanks for having me well i mean it is a its a its a deadly pandemic theres no under stating that weve had 230000 lies roughly lost and from the from the virus and certainly many many loss from the policy of shutdowns so its tragic theres no question about that but if you want to know whats happening right now i think theres a gross distortion that his surrogates typical of reporting on this and that is that theres this frenzy of focusing on the number of cases when we see a lot of reasons to be sort of you know cautiously optimistic here rather than fearful and those reasons are very important for people understand 1st of all the cases number the case number is not the most important matter whats important to understand is that the vast majority of people that are getting these cases are lower risk healthier people were doing a better job protecting the elderly and its you know the high risk people the diseases that really really only to the elderly and high risk people and what i mean by that is not that 0 people die but the risks to younger people is extremely low for any serious illness this is the data you know i mean 99. 997 percent of people do fine at r. s 018 for instance and so we have we have a lot of good things happening here 1st of all we see the case the taliban rate is much not just much lower than what we thought it was in the beginning but it is decreasing for every age thats sile and i look at the data from that thats sile of age and even for people 80. 5 and older 7584652741 extension 1 the fatality rates are decreasing so even if when they get sick they have a last chance of dying when we have a patient hospitalized mortality rate of in the hospital is half of what it was at the peak the length of stay in hospital is one 3rd of what it was at the peak you know we have. No real problem although occasionally theres an isolated hospital thats overcrowded but were doing everything the administration is. Really you know up for repair and ship mobilize resources beds personnel to prevent hospital overcrowding we havent had a problem like that theres never been a patient by the way in the us that even the battle later that was not able to be put on im not a single patient and so we see a lot of cases we do not see in an explosion of thats people are dying theres no understating that were doing more and more to protect the elderly and the people who might die and you know im personally involved in that sort of thing and making sure that we dont just write policies but we actually have implementation of action so what the administrations been doing is sending a prioritization but massive amount of personal protective equipment to Senior Care Centers to Senior Centers instant you know 15 minutes asking to prevent inflow of cases from nursing home staff thats where the cases come from massive task potentials you know testing going to Senior Centers for seniors frequent socially ok and things like that so lots of drugs are being developed we expect any day in emergencies authorization for a drug well see you know theres a lot of promise and then i understand from that than the maybe why you know president looks up to mystic on the campaign trail has he seen the university of washington study that says. There will be 500000 dead by february kind of contradicting the new york your lack of correlation between cases and death you know i hate. The i hate to me model is really sort of its absurd to start looking at that model at this point some of the things in that model. Ill give you an example if you look at the academic literature by epidemiologists who have looked at that model. For even 24 hours later on a state by state prediction of us for 24 hours in advance they were outside of their 94 or 5 percent confidence interval more than 70 percent of the time i mean the model is its absurd to think that model and predict for instance how many people are going to die with and without masks where i mean this kind of thing is at this point in time anybody whos really focusing on models is has learned nothing from the past and by the way we have a massive amount of data i dont understand the 6 ation that some people still pay out on these you know on these models that are sensationalizing things we have the data we know whos it risks we know whos not we understand how to social distance and protect people with hygiene when youre close to somebody its reasonable to wear a mask if theyre i respect secular or if you are theres all kinds of things we do we have robert on progress on things and yet people are talking about modeling i just am so obviously you advised trump not to do except that that particular model do you do support the wearing of mosques now because previously and this relates to information during the pandemic i understand twitter deleted a tweet of you was about mosques so its a really good question but yes i wasnt and i never heard theres been ciro change in my belief or the president s belief about mast 0 what was the lead. Well let me state the policy that i advised and that he has stated dozens and dozens of times where ive asked when you cannot socially distance particularly when you are high risk or near a high risk person thats thats what thats a reasonable policy it is unreadable it is irrational and that i will tell you what was the lead on twitter it is irrational to think that you should wear a mask when youre in the middle of a desert when youre in your car driving all alone when youre running outside and are all all that is not rational you dont even have to be a scientist to understand that that is absurd and that is a result of the fear instilled by people who just insist on sort of these kinds of os its not really analyzing that they had on the starts and what was deleted on twitter was the following i just tweeting that the mask mandates generalize population use mass do not work from the Empirical Data point number one and i listed in l. A. County Miami Dade County state of hawaii state of alabama spain and france the u. K. Everywhere in the word israel all kinds of places where general population massed mandates were used and people were using mass and the cases exploded its through those times frank thats fact actually not arguable that a light number on that was whats in that village is this and i just take it back and let me finish it you broke the astral the 2nd part that was in that suite that was deleted were no comments from me whatsoever simply literal quotes from the w. H. O. Website from the center for evidence based medicine oxford professor anikin from the study of the c. D. C. On its a lot of those were quotes there was not even an opinion expressed. Yet somehow the facts that are contrary to 8 beliefs are deleted from twitter i think this is a bigger issue than mass is the deletion of that tweet that a bigger issue is that sometimes were in a world now it seems that somehow information that is contrary to what people want to have you did you did you complain to did you complain to to it because you obviously have a constitution that guarantees reason reach in the affected states ask what do they have honored brat right now that constitution is under threat and i think this is a muslim they say. What did they say to me i cant tell the way twitter works as they deleted the tweet and they froze my accountant and i said ok there is a way to click on a box and. You know appeal appeal and so i appeal the course of box to appeal doesnt allow a one seat you know essay but i appealed and then i waited 6 hours and then i thought ok well my account is frozen while its being appealed so i said fine just i accept that tweet was deleted well obviously if they can if they can i leave it at that and i quit breaking bad box and 12 hours went by before my account was really if they can delete a Senior Adviser in the White House Coronavirus task force then thats obviously quite something tell me how politicized the response to this pandemic is because youve been talking about the working classes of america and the impact of lockdowns and so on do you think that do you think that socalled Mainstream Media understands your concerns about the working classes of america well i think the working class understands the concerns of the working class of america i mean one of the lockdowns have been one of the one of will go down as an attic failure of Public Policy by people who refused to accept they were wrong were wrong words used to exact they were on the didnt know the data didnt care and became a frenzy that stopping cold like 980 says at all costs and those costs are massive and whats. Happened here is that the argument is undeniable the lockdowns are killing people but theyre not really impact whole lot downs and by lockdowns i dont mean everyone is frozen in time and theres a suit all alone in a room because thats easy to say oh were not for lock outs but what they are for are testing asymptomatic since fining people into isolation from their work from their family for 7 for 14 days closing in person schools closing businesses fast lockdown and what we see is that a lot downs really are not impactful that people even like me ok its for me for people that are sort of i have a great job upperclass staff relatively affluent people who Political Class media class these people arent impacted because they still have their jobs their children are underfoot its inconvenient but thats not the same thing as what we see in working class and lower class lower socioeconomic class people where theyve lost their jobs suicides are going way out drug abuse is going on the way out you know were creating a generation of the raga children and forcing them to wear masks and be 6 feet apart from their friends or not even to have school in person you know we see in the u. S. People 18 to 2425 percent of them college is shoots one out of 4 sort of killing himself in the month of june due to the locked up this is a massive tragedy of epic proportion and theres more and more data coming out of this and i wrote about this back i think in april or may way before i came here and i wasnt the villain of the world when i wrote it but when you come up and you stand next to the president i did states in an attempt to help the country in the biggest crisis in the world you must be destroyed by the media in the United States and so its a its a sad statement on america that is a us is there are over this but the point is that the Public Health leadership have thought. They old agree just lee and theyre killing people with their fear inducing shutdown policies they are literally killing professor of sufi them all from pres a school atlas after this break. The maternity town the slums go in and you may never get out so those are the chances. Of. Teenage gang rules here kalu not want to do then let the mind of a good kid know you were there with me but. Maybe it will be very. Nice seeing her the spirit of. That now its looking for the yeah when i do use that as an analogy like somebody who. Knew about the mccain rule result i see. Welcome back im still here with professor scott atlas of the White House Coronavirus task force where you are clearly excited about possible treatments for cove and of course your president has been talking about controlling drug pricing should he be reelected this while the Big Pharmaceutical Companies are funding joe bidens campaign sensible of President Trump with a few days to go before the election to attack the profits of the Big Pharmaceutical Companies. I think what hes doing is hes attacking. Sort of the me asymmetry in prices then you know people are paying for drugs here in the u. S. But i think you have to look at the policies that hes done and understand where hes coming from because in drug pricing in the u. S. On the 1st time in decades under the Trump Administration the prices came down the Consumer Price index or pharmaceuticals came down thats never been done for decades i havent seen it historically beyond decades ago but thats the 1st time and so thats from increased competition deregulation making prices making drug prices sensitive to the demand of a payer which in this case is the patient and the more you have the patient be the payer by transparency and stuff like that a price come down the what hes trying to do is pressure prices the come down by saying ok maybe the prices should be as good as they are in the rest of the world so you know well see what happens with the prices in the rest of the world its not necessarily clear well see what happens but i think hes fighting for the consumer of course which oil about plus a moment ago the stimulus checks that americans watching this program will be interested in do you see a democrat opposition in congress again as a health issue when it comes to coronavirus the lack of any stimulus check theyll. Its hard to deny that its political you know the were in the middle of a very very contentious Election Year as Everybody Knows and you know but it is sad i think again like im not a political appointee i have 0 interest in politics in fact i have a distaste for politics which has been heightened during this when you see politicians just hold off on various things that they would normally think are important for for consumers or for individuals and society and they are representing these People Holding off for political reasons its really its disgusting and tragic and i dont even know what say it i mean when when you are looking into the strategy why would a country like south korea a democracy backed by the United States capital seoul bigger than chicago or london why would it only have 460. 00 deaths. Well theres a lot of reasons to explain and i think its very naive for people to make these broad conclusions about why countries differ but 1st of all you know south korea they it all the countries in asia i think theres reason to believe that a lot of Asian Countries have a west impact from sars too because they have a lot more experience biologically with related viruses and that could be sars go on at the other coronaviruses and we see the data from singapore taking blood samples from subjects who get sars won 17 years ago and when you look at their study it showed a very robust response to exposure to this virus 17 years later and theres a lot of reasons to suspect that. Protection on an immunological basis from various other viruses but theres all kinds of differences in populations you get on treacherous ground to start comparing country to country and then pointing about something the only way to really do things is by something called access mortality rates rather than deaths for capital because of course thats for capita for instance our determine how you categorize a death in the United States we have a we do not require a positive test for the corona virus to call somebody a death we include desperate from anything associated with the corona virus or coded as a cause of death for colds and then we add that and lead off high and head and theres nothing theres nothing that president john boy a white house toss was could have done to rewrite the rules on death certificates. You know desart tend to get coding in the United States is almost an are going to science its up to the doctor but i want to correct you its not my task force not say that i better know what what do you make of your a colleague Dr Anthony Fauci calling you an outlier and he was concerned about you well why would he be sound i dont know why i cant speak for dr prouty but i could say this im proud to be an outlier. As specially when the end of wires are completely wrong so you know im going to pray to be a contrarian because i know im right and that thats a thats a lot more defamatory to billy is bill gates wouldnt what did you feel when he called you a pseudo expert and i should say its gates who is funding all these different vaccine trials. Well i didnt even know about it until someone pointed it out to me because i frankly dont care what somebody like bill gates says i mean i i being british does not confer expertise that i would say point number one and you know point number 2 is i feel very good about not only my own expertise my own cd im a pump im a Health Care Policy person who work in this or 15 years i happen to also have 25 years of medical science experience at the highest levels of academic medicine but you know lets put it this way what i have been advocating has been a exactly based on the science ive been saying it since at least march i set it personally in my own home in february ive written about it since march ive said nothings wrong and its been fallin aided by now over 11000 epidemiologists and high level you know and medical science people who have signed on to this Great Barrington declaration which basically aligns with most of what i have said which is protect a high risk people. Prevent hospital overcrowding with resources so that people can get their medical care and open schools and you know and businesses and society and that by the way is a policy and based on the data and i speak to some of the worlds best epidemiologists almost literally every day for the past 78 months ok im not weighing it here but when people hear things they dont want to believe instead of changing the argument instead of using the argument about the facts people that are a parent and not on each simply insecure with their own knowledge coal and ad hominum attack and you know i dont really have time for that im busy here doing one say in that is trying to save a life for the American People thats what my goal is here and the way i do that is i know what im talking about i get advice from. All kinds of experts from all kinds of and i try to advise the president appropriately on the right obviously the w. H. O. Rejects the Great Barrington declaration and for all what you say about bill gates say he does have a lot of money and he has arguably a lot of power why do you think say in london our committee is not theyre not there in fights between members of the committee carried out in public and certainly no big titans of industry are slamming people on the expert committees of government i dont think even in european capitals is it something about the the american body politic. I think that yeah i think you know i know a sinatra goot in the u. K. Shes one of the worlds best an Infectious Disease epidemiologist and i think shes been battered quite a bit. But i would say this that the u. S. Is the u. S. Has a lot of positives and a lot of you know people are very more interactive but right now the countrys off the rails the countries off the rails because there is this hysteria that has been tual by the faces of Public Health experts use here that have been not only wrong but more interested i believe in their own public satcher than anything else and you know youve got to look at the data and part of the Public Policy leadership in my view is to understand what youre talking about to make sure that people who are you know regular people out there understand that you have a good understanding and you have a rational commonsense ossy instead of wringing your hands every other day what we dont know what we should be doing is saying what we know because we know quite a bit and you know there there is a hysteria here that is you will buy i currently on social media. Maybe the culture of the United States but also undeniably the fact that were in this very polarized you know time point of this election that has made things a lot worse and you know im hoping if i can be optimistic about something that things will sort of become a little bit more rational once the election is decided course i dont i dont i dont have a tremendous expectation that they had but im im both ok i mean you have president obama has been helping joe biden you may have heard him say you know he had a Pandemic Response team it was destroyed by the Trump Administration do you think that the 200220000 death toll in the United States is an echo of the decision to. Double. Lish the National SecurityCouncil Directorate for mobile security and defense they had is completely false in terms of claiming that there is some kind of a great candidate mc Response Team that was an error here that is just simply false period i happen to know what was best that what was here when not before this all start the 2nd point though is the question of the you know the decimate listen we have a we have a deadly disease here for people who are at high risk theres no denying that its its its its really a heinous sort of unconscionable lie to claim that oh my god we should we should have had no deaths other than incompetence or some kind of the way it ministration is done a tremendous amount here being caught blindsided with 0 stockpile by the way 0 preparation inherited from the Previous Administration and to suit you know mobilize all the resources billions of dollars on protective equipment accelerated drugs accelerated vaccines and really record time the stuff has been done and you know what the administration ok theres a lot of people that die by the way 233000 access under the you know the task force of the people whose names you know before i even walked in the door you know if you want to talk about that but basically the point here is that we have a deadly disease and you know ask them its work if you want to go buy your models that youre citing it to and at 2200000 people were going to die in the u. S. So i mean i think that you can change the game lets be rational here lets understand that actually theres been a tremendous amount done here very very successfully that is not solace for the people who have lost loved ones i know people who have died myself its very sad theres no question about it no one is minimizing bad but we have a deadly disease and we are going. To be ok here we have to be rational do common sense things and understand that life must go on life will go on and weis will go on and save lives i asking it and it was just fun and you know i just finally and briefly you said you know what a political appointee that doesnt stop political candidates talking about you what will a joe biden presidency mean shit biden said nobody thinks he you makes any sense no serious doctor around the world what does that signal to you about a biden presidency when it comes to coronavirus anyone that would say that is either lying or doesnt doesnt know whats happening or is simply just severely confused because the policies that i have been advising have been signed onto by more than a lot of unsolved and epidemiologists and medical scientists in that that were asian and that includes people from Harvard Stanford university and many many other scientists. After level institutions you know i just think that kind of statement as the sa are and you know im not sure what to make of that statement other than its just completely totally wrong professors quietus thank you ok thats it for the show will be back on the eve of the u. S. Election on the uns International Data and impunity for crimes against journalists will be speaking to the host of the opponent of g door show accuse a socalled Mainstream Media journalist of the crime of a mission and much more besides join the u. S. President ial Election Campaign until then catch all our interviews when are you generally dont forget to join the underground by following us on Twitter Facebook instagram is on. 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