Context by saying the starting point for the discussion of Global Police state needs to be this severe crisis of global capitalism the pandemic didnt create the crisis it only made it much worse and in talking about Global Police state theres 2 dimensions i want to highlight one is the structural technically we call it over accumulation but its a crisis of chronic stagnation in the Global Economy and the 2nd dimension of that crisis is is political this one of state legitimacy and capitalist henschel money so i need 3 things by Global Police state and the 1st is we see the deepening and the extension worldwide of transnational systems of social control of repression militaries asian and warfare all around the world and we see that in order to contain the real and the potential rebellion of what i call in the book surplus humanity and the mess of the downwardly mobile and destabilized and concrete in the impoverished global working class and you know very quickly. The International Labor organization has already reported that one 3rd of humanity that 2000000000 people in the world are at this point a what i call surplus humanity structurally marginalized unemployed that have to scratch out a living in an informal economy which is deteriorating and collapsing and then another 1300000000 workers in the world work in extremely precarious condition so we have one half of humanity is in this and misery he agreed and they probably think youre immediately talking about cost if you in this program suggested that class warfare may exist it made the model current Times Newspaper but you quote warren buffet claiming its been going on for decades class war and his class won tell me about this in this. Connection between class and the Global Police state than more clearly. Well lets look at it global inequalities have reached unprecedented levels i mean we can barely wrap our minds around these inequalities one percent of humanity controls over 50 percent of the worlds wealth that we know because thats been broadly publicized but more significantly 20 percent of humanity in that amount is is is shrinking as capitalism world capitalism continues to restructure controls 95 percent of the worlds wealth so 80 percent of humanity controls only thought of percent of the worlds wealth and under those conditions under this conditions of extreme inequality those that rule the world including Warren Buffett needs to develop systems of extreme control and repression but you know i want to add one of the thing when we talk about warren buffet and what i refer to in the book as the transnational capitalist class and the 2nd dimension of Global Police state as independent of the systems need to repress and to wage wars and so forth to hold the mass of humanity down Global Police state is a mens profitable at a time when the Global Economy has been in chronic stagnation and so we see that the whole Global Economy and society is increasingly dependent on militarization on course and. Recession social control just to keep the Global Economy moving forward use the phrase military keynesianism i should say you also mention the fact that citibank said invest in luxury goods because theres no point investing in things that arent luxury for for that elite military keynesianism do you see that as the core project now of near liberal governments. Thats thats one of the arguments of the book and i go beyond military can as it is and we thought that since the post what you carry the 1960 s. And 1970 s. I call it militarized accumulation and accumulation by repression and here the data on how the Global Economy is more and more just dependent on this accumulation by repression and by militarization is is mind boggling that the middle east and north that you mentioned briefly at the beginning of the program already involves 15 trillion trillion dollars the military budgets of governments around the world increased a 100 percent from 2000 wanted to present 100 percent and that does that only includes official military forces budgets we also have the vast increase of state secret budgets of police and intelligence budgets home and Security Budgets when you add all of this up and it put this in the book youre talking about 4 or 5 or maybe a little more percentage of the entire worlds economy and this doesnt include this incredible expansion of investments in the Global Police state by private forces we have now 20000000 people that work for private mercenary firms technically theyre called private military firms we have 15000000 people that work as private police all around the world which and that number is more than Public Police forces in one half of the countries in the world we have the one only profitable socalled war on terror and war on drugs which are a farce because theyre not against drugs and theyre not really against terrorism so i can go on and on of course because of the massive i mean the war in iraq the war on drugs of course being added by the democratic contender for the presidency us me gave me from los angeles do you think there is a growing consciousness of the issues in the book because you talked about battle spaces changing from i suppose iraq to our towns and cities in your in l. A. You saw presumably the black lives matter protests after the killing of george floyd in your city so and participated here in los angeles there were tens of thousands every single day up to hundreds thousands in some mass marches and low. Actually you youth driven but the Global Police state was has been on full display here in the United States in the uprising that took place in the aftermath of the murder of george floyd but the larger story here of course is the megacities of the world not just the war zone such as in the middle east the mega cities of the world are now the theaters for this Global Police state and its where these are these are any qualities are so incredibly excused and so all of the pineapple e of whats when referring to his local police state is unbleached in these in these mega cities and i keep on wanting to emphasize here that part of that is to hold down a mass of humanity from questioning this system and rebelling in the face of a president i dont while im on the artist is on the culture and of course in fairness to mr arkell Mainstream Media they did cover the b. L. M. Protests quite a lot he told me about how you how you describe liberal cultural elites facilitating this Global Police state you actually use the phrase neofascist culture. Yes absolutely and so the other 3rd dimension i had mentioned the 1st to mention of a police state is this repressive and the 2nd is simply that its enormously profitable to invest in wars and repression and and so what the 3rd dimension is this threat of what i refer to as 21st century fascism but the confusion here is thats just like the extreme far right wing these far right wing now fascist parties in europe or or modi in india or chunkier in the United States on the contrary these repressive systems and the investment in them has had to go is democratic and republican here in the United States is completely bipartisan the liberal elites has been deeply invested in Global Police do you mean do you mean hollywood a you mean novels you mean fancy you mean. Television well that is the level of the mass media the Entertainment Industry and yes they put forward images and i galaxian or. Whatever for its you as a Global Police states but you know and the us that means the book is loaded with so much data you can just scratch the surface here but but lets remember something here that u. S. Military intelligence agencies financed and advised and its this is in the book and here is the data 800 major hollywood movies in recent years and 1000 t. V. Shows and all you know all of this projects all kinds of images that are related to be thing of this Global Police state at the ideological and cultural level where this political and economic implications of course. You do try and end the book on something quite hopeful but what amount of through patrice spirit can be summoned up if more and more of us are out of work let alone because of coronavirus labor unions even if they did strengthen in numbers dont have that power i mean what is supposed to overthrow the Global Police state as that coercion prevents people being able to meet well theres 2 things a global revolt as already been underway and the fall of 2001000 was what we could so who. You know a worldwide spring of revolt every everywhere and in the world the pandemic pushed people off the street temporarily but people are now back on the street the nigerian there what we were up to you know we dont even know how many nigerians were mowed down in a hail of bullets by the police and europe but theyre rising up 1st against Police Brutality and more generally guess the social economic policies that generate Global Police state so we do have a. Global reach rebellion underway and that is very hopeful but we also have some of the global elites are recognizing that we need a message we just wealth and power downward in order to save capitalism from a self not even to overthrow capitalism so thats really what we need as a as a 1st step is a massive decreasing of those unprecedented inequalities and we need a rebuilding of social programs around the world we need a new type of really you know a global new deal and a radical reform of global capitalism i prefer would prefer it be overthrown but put that aside and and the good news is that messes of people are are now taking to the streets and organizing worldwide for that global reform project and they are meeting up with certain sectors of the global elite which see that this reform is urgent that the system is not going to either collapse or be overthrown you know or to generate into mass an archeologist time and agree for me the other existential question of course the environment you say in the book the Green New Deal is going to vacuous saving of capitalism. And in the inference is of course a police state as well why do you see Something Like the Green New Deal as just another liberal constructors is not really getting to the heart of things at all. Right now theres 2 things not agree no deal i supported green a deal and thats a big step forward its rather this notion of green capitalism that the giants corporations that basically run the planets out do more for it is more about Public Relations than actually contributing to a whole transformation arce of our social and Economic System so that it is environmentally sustainable so thats socalled green capitalism and you know you have like British Petroleum b. P. Saying that theyre shifting all their you know theyre going to theyre going to be renewable in the next 1020 years which is of course a lot of nonsense so im critiquing the notion of green capitalism that the big giant transnational corporations and the elites which are often their political agents are going to salvage us from the ecological collapse that were already in but a Green New Deal i think is a very important step forward but a Green New Deal calls from massive we just have mission of wealth downward in massive reform and controls on the us unbridled operations of the transnational corporate elites well b. P. Says i its very green modi and the trump of course and then out of trash just president by robinson thank you very much thank you so much for having me on its a pleasure after the break ultraviolence after global protests against racist policing appear to slow in the face of seemingly apathetic governments and pandemic related lockdowns we explore a new film from Award Winning documentary maker can pharaohs the polls but and list resistance in the face of endless brutality all of them all can help but to have going underground. So seems wrong. Why dont we all just dont call. Me old yet to see how it does going to come ethical and endangered because betrayal. Once and many find themselves worlds apart when just to look for common ground. Welcome back while the whole world is preoccupied with a Global Pandemic 2 bills passing through the u. K. s parliament this month the overseas operations bill and the covert human intelligence sources bill are arguably attempting to immunize u. K. Operatives from facing justice both in the military and the police while many see these as 2 discrete issues a new film ultraviolence by ward winning filmmaker ken farah which explores deaths in u. K. Police custody looks at the point where the issues of endless war and endless Police Violence meet and he joins me now via skype from london ken thanks so much for coming on only in the past few days weve had a case of alleged British Police killing of a mentally ill man of color kevin clock in the in south london tell me about how your film tries to recover the memory of thousands dead at the hands of u. K. Security forces police in the u. K. Well what weve done is weve worked with a group of families over a long period of time to tell their stories whats tell us stories within the context of what was happening in the u. K. When we shot the film which was in the early 2000 so we have the iraq war going on and in fact one of the one of the people who was killed by the police a speech in the sun chris holder was itself a paratrooper so the connections between the 2 issues of or rule and policing are only very clear in this or im general though is one of the main characters and tries to get justice speaks very openly about the connection between more policing and its something we we shall have to be told because these issues cant really be separated and what we did is we worked for 15 years with a group of families to tell a story and also to tell the story of the nation and the story sums of how it in this country are willing to accept violence in the name whether its in terms of war or whether its in terms of policing and we find that socially unacceptable you show the c. C. T. V. Vid. You evidence of christopher all the dying when you 1st saw that footage what it did make you feel like well i felt angry just like anybody else i would look of up at the footage and all the footage in the film from the dump of all coca weve lived with our footage and weve analyzed them is trying to look at it in terms of an investigation but also your emotions and what it does to the audience and the families in the film were very clear they wanted people to see how the loved one died and its played out at length because i think sometimes these images that are shown its a shame very spotty and we wanted to let people know so they can feel what it was like for christmas lets be in that position but of course a lot of what happens before and after that events the events of its death was preceded by Police Violence there was no investigations what happened in the violence christopher all they got into the police and the last thing he said there was fed by the Police Offices and hospitals was if you treat him badly the papers or hear about this and you know he predicted his own death in the white so the film tries to look at this footage on other lines that also look at what happened before and of course what happens afterwards you you mention in the film the ledge the he was a he was gassed one of the many dimensions to is that one of the many dimensions here name checking that the great marxist director who was murdered have athame me. Well we wanted to make a film that appearance of many audiences and of course we mentioned hustling and goes in and the film is sort of codes from all the way you know in other words as well what we wanted to do was to make a film that appearance to not just people i cared about human rights abuses that were happening in the u. K. But people who were also interested in cinema and i think its delicate balance some people seem to think weve achieved it but of course all these influences and all these great people from the past their work their resistance whether its not so much films or poetry as it was but possibly feeds into us today and so we try to keep that heritage of personally and others go. When obviously the government denies telling everyone to retrain away from poetry and filmmaking because of the coronavirus but one thing the government does say is that we have robust regulation off Police Violence. But in your film this film ultraviolence you seem to be saying that the senate the independent Police Complaints commission now now changed it enables killing. All the organs of the state since weve been working on this issues for the past 25 to 30 years the Police Complaints or its the p. C. The p. C. Is just lets as a change every decade they have never ever successfully prosecuted Police Officers apart from the one case we reveal in this film for the 1st time and we finally and i think the fact that weve had over 2000 deaths in a 50 year period and that these crimes have gone unpunished is a testament to the failure of the states the states whether its so you could a labor a conservative government have run roughshod over you the rights of the people of this country and in this when we try to explore how that happens and what can be done about it because the film is about the victims but its also about resistance about how people fight back and how its possible to have hope in these very dark times do you think even one current british member of Parliament Though would accept that these different lettered japanese regulators are designed to promote a false confidence in restitution that they are de facto encouraging violence by having them that they had these agencies are actually complicit in the raising memory. They are complicit in the raising memory and so on tries to make sure that memories kept alive and of course it will now nothing can ever be hidden away and this one tries to expose that i think in terms of politicians and the states in general and all these different crime goes and n. G. O. S they are very complicit in whats been going on Everybody Knows what that issue is a to try to do with it and i think this is something that feeds into the general population i think its spelled in on all m. P. s and some people some m. P. s have spoken out instance of deaths in custody in the past but they havent looked at it in terms of what is systematic brutal system which kills people in some cases cases of murder some cases mountstuart and some cases d. Of an awful can in all these cases have never actually been sitting in the likes that they had with the so interested. Its to question not just the people of the u. K. But also to put out to the world to say we need help here when some to come out from the outside that could be un it could be another body so actually look at whats happening in this country because when we made the film an injustice before and we did discover that in the United States which is quite surprising Police Officers actually have gone to jail for the killings of people in their custody in france there are several examples were Police Officers have actually gone to general and i can name many countries across the world in the middle east and africa and in other European Countries a lot of america where officers have gone to jail for killings in their custody but youre not saying the u. S. Has a better Justice System the bretons well i think the u. S. And its owners of the same custody has prosecuted Police Officers and of course are not going to advocate the u. S. Justice system over system you know it equally. Ok well we now have a human rights lawyer as head of the Main Opposition Party in this country to get stahmann your film ultraviolence you suggest that Josh Alderman has as was murdered by police press adik now hes been promoted to head of britains Largest Police force Scotland Yard what do you make of suggest ahmed saying that as regards an appeal by the family and i know the family here in the film it just said it was a mistake it wasnt a mud. I think its interesting that you bring up there so that they are getting the message that that gives him some of her involvement in the shot shows and has a d kennedy has it and be promoted to be head of the metric was and lisa is its a very d disturbing message and sent and tons of secure. I met with him and with other members of families of people have been killed by the police we had a discussion with him and he absolutely promised he would look into the issue and that he was there to support families of course he did nothing of the sort and so historically. Has really d not been there for the families and we dont expect them to be there for the families again the fundamental issue here is that the cunt this country is very well aware of whats going on in this country and this government and previous previous governments are very very aware of whats going on and they refuse to do anything about it so the people need d to do something about for themselves and i know that the families are all nice things to try to get x. And bodies to come into the u. K. To try and assist them in their struggles for justice well we might as a guest on our own but one thing he has promoted on the front bench of people that some of him have supported the iraq war i think many people may be surprise that youve jumped from Police Deaths in custody in the cells of police stations and a war that killed maimed or displaced tens of millions of people what is the exact connection. Well the connection is one of power one of abuse and one of the rights of even beings to write the right to life wherever they are whether theyre in brixton or in bus or they have the right to life and its the police in the u. K. Who is shooting people like john charles a minute and it says its the army the u. K. Army or issues if people in bastrop so somebody thats being killed and to the family thats fighting for justice they really cant see any difference in terms of how they treat it of course the situation of war is very situation very different to the civil situation we are in the span of fundamentally the forces of work here are a capitalist system which benefits from war and its the same system that benefits from the control of people through groups or police and so the connection is very close but theres another connection of course and sums of relations between campaigns we know for example in case the bloody sunday families and families from iraq have come over and met with families here and there is a connection there in some of the resistance weve made of so people across the world to know whats happening in the u. K. And also it knows already what its done in iraq but im not sure the news enough about whats on it in its own homes well of homages committee releasing a report on legacy issues today i just want to get through what the authorities reach for as excuses because in the film you suggest that victims they say theyre blamed for their own death and inquest and you also suggest that judges work with cases like older to dismiss the charges of wrongdoing on the behalf of security forces. Well the truth of the angry black person a racist argument has been pulled out in this country for hundreds of years and the deaths of people in a stupid city black people people who are not indigenous u. K. That kind of racism fills the argument and thats both a nice paper story its a great you see when somebody dies at the hands of police when somebody is killed by police its Police Officers who are d there who have to give evidence if this independent witnesses and they are watching as well but its the voices and the words of the offices thats billy the general public of that investigation is done by a Government Organization whether its the i. P. C. C. Or their p. C. And then its judges who are again sworn to the crown that make a decision so here you have a search of a situation where every element of every organization thats meant to investigate these cases is actually beholden to the state and so will never having the power it will never have justice unless there is a political will and political comes through through oppression well at least we have a free Media Journalists covering it even Mainstream Media journalists are talking about the protests in Nigeria Security forces killing protest has been in your in your film ultraviolence you talk about a Certain Television media complicity yeah i think television in our opinion is just to every image that goes on the previous one till you have nothing left new i think there are certain major d organizations basically the international ones. And what happens here now the coverage of these this is there with the newspapers of course they travel. But the consistent following of the families the assistant investigation into these cases. And the need to look at the patent area 50 years 2000 deaths until an injustice is no journalists in the u. K. Not the b. B. C. Im not the times and nobody at actually ever counted the number of People Killed by the police now i think thats a fundamental journalistic piece of integrity that has fire in this country so theyre not even counting the number of people have been killed how many of the people expect them to look at the patents to look at the problems once a look at the solutions and i think thats why we condemn the media and also we condemn the media within this film because as Everybody Knows. Because in this country in truth in china from b. B. C. Ive refused to scrutinize phones despite the fact that site injustice was a she said and a motivating film was shown are all d over the world was screened and he was screened in south africa and use it in the United States either but not in the d u. K. So i think the fact is a film which has been passed around effectively by the u. K. Around issues of destine peaceful city is its an indictment of the socalled freedom of speech we have in this country freedom of speech is not unlimited d in any place well those broadcasters deny censorship and fair thank you here thats of the show will be back on wednesday he had to the day the European Union agreed to a fed ex it extension today britain is just a few weeks away from possibly having no comprehensive trade agreement with the few 100 hardeep a lack of protection for the n. H. S. 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