So why cant people just you know make their all conclusions and go all further thats absolute in nature oh. And the problem with the conspiracy Conspiracy Theory is spread by the Mainstream Media is that theyre not based in reality at all theyre based on ideology for example. You know Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction he was a maniac who wanted to destroy the world that was a huge Conspiracy Theory but no one shuts down New York Times twitter accounts no one says you i to us how many times did New York Times report that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and so for hours and sometimes the thousands of women they got those say its not a Conspiracy Theory and mr trump is a liar you should be labeled and then you advance would continue business as usual right i go only to find peace leg up youll surprises only. Promotions and they and they were just keep up the ladder for a spreading their false narratives here you know this is the limit george i mean. In this is all the medias fault i mean lets just look at coded i mean you can get a one hour one hour of prime time and go to every single major cable station and they have their own their panel of medical experts but they all say Different Things ok i mean what are people supposed to believe and because they cant believe the official narratives theyre going to try to make conclusions themselves thats only natural and the monthly over the last couple of days the way social media platforms of behave no wonder people start thinking unthinkable and mean sometimes and reasonable things because they feel theyre being lied to. Thats absolutely right but at its merits the beer is too basic purpose many years use the media your opponents as book of Conspiracy Theory and so you say oh im. A poor ridiculous Conspiracy Theory is that joe biden was involved with you dont really ukrainian influence peddling and trying to get a prosecutor pyatt because you want to protect is something thats a Conspiracy Theory. When you say that barack obama was spying on the trunk campaign thats a Conspiracy Theory but as demon when did that. Im hussein had weapons of mass destruction and even more seriously that he was involved in the 911. 00 terrorist attack that apparently is not a conspiracy there this is the claim that modern day to. Fix the 2016 election for d donald trump which the media have been claiming i think they do it to this day thats not a Conspiracy Theory. They claim that hunt abidance lab or the emails that have just recently emerged. A product of a russian this information thats not a conspiracy if so so that where you are you are allowed to put forward your conspiracy theories was me airing your opponent as being a Conspiracy Theory. If you look at the New York Times how many times use the word Conspiracy Theory all day every day innumerable stories used to it is there is it there about whom about the people that make a politically donald trump is a puppet or a conspiracy but no no weve been your private not true so when we say that but im a budget controls every single thing in the well thats not a conspiracy theyre going to you know demand you can compare this is a controversy surrounding joe bidens son hunter and then we can compare it to to rush again so rush again is based on Anonymous Sources exclusively minimum is sources and. Flimsy and even fabricated dossiers ok that were paid for for and they all had that and the dossier had a political aim ok to discredit and thats called opposite Position Research and happens all the time. But opPosition Research that isnt usually used to impeach someone ok but in the case of the the main the bike family i mean there are calendars there are people in admitted that they met my. He transfers and you know i mean theres a lot of you know me you know those bones the dark about what russian gate was all up in the clouds built you know i counsel floating in miraculously in the clouds here but you know one Conspiracy Theory and the other one is debunked but i mean you know and then where the journalist in the whole of the not i mean it was a pretty ugly car so when the quads thats quite a spade a spade i think people should be named and shamed in this case i mean christopher a steals dorsey a claim that russian 1 prostitutes or any of them sounds on drugs had when he was in moscow and that was completely baloney and there was nothing behind it. But you know these dossier is still mentioned and the Mainstream Media not only in the United States by you know. Media outlets like dish spiegel magazine in it in germany all i know more and in france they continue saying that russians stole their American Election by placing ads on facebook for them out of 100000. 00 or less you know so these are just absolutely incredible lies i mean allies simply dont make much as i told you you know the socalled popular conspiracy theorists you know there are many conspiracy theories about coronavirus well because the theme who looks absurd suspicious thats why you have these yes nice sometimes about corona mafia or corona craziness corona grease in nature all that people create such theories that conspiracy theories of the Mainstream Media are based on the ideology like hotel poison not only i dont think so because no one else was interested in poisoning hume well i mean there were several very strange deaths or. Western politicians you put it your sense in the last few years like im just a leper who was called polish jew going off home and got so depressed that he hanged himself in his own office and i want to ask him questions you know your kaido who was who was the black sheep of european politics you know the you convened wise mens meetings to see how he is in france could be contained and then he just drove his car badly and couldnt go an excellent and i. Was interested in this of course no one will buy it will not bother me yes although putin was interested in that well you know if you could do it so this is all based on a do or would you this is all based on demonizing certain people like you say a lot of bad things about some foreign leader and then something happens and then you say who else. Well you know i mean but this is laziness as well ok i mean if there is that its open to the many of these people does have a default position that theyre not really interested in facts ok they theyre interested in how you can perpetuate their political agenda here in georgia its like you know another one that keeps circulating around even though its been debunked is the bounty hunters in afghanistan where you had the highest serving general American General and yet he has gone public and yes now its about 3 or 4 weeks ago saying that he has heard nothing up there is theres he has no knowledge of this but but still in the u. S. A Political Campaign the president ial campaign its still being circulated i mean so even if you go to the very source ok its soldiers being killed by how a band that are being paid by the russians of and they whittled it down to someone a soldier a former soldier or someone someone associated with the Iraqi Government that is one other percent dependent on the United States and trump wants to get out and so all of a sudden this story gets circulated and and then it gets down to well maybe you shouldnt leave afghanistan when the American Public overwhelmingly wants that to happen but see that conspiracy continued to supply it to flow because it has political advantages for some. Yeah thats exactly right and and you notice that even the in last weeks the town hall debate biden again came up with this comes about the the bounty and of course the moderator George Stephanopoulos did nothing to correct him none of the Fact Checkers did anything to correct him said that the Tammy Duckworth just about every day tweets out something about our how many days of pa since we 1st heard about the bounties only u. S. Soldiers and still donald trump hasnt said anything about it so it just has momentum of its own it doesnt it doesnt matter that its been debunked apparently its perfectly reasonable to peddle this sort of nonsense and in fact the whole russia gate is still people still peddling this thing about how russia is interfered in the 26000 election on behalf of donald trump and the you know and that somehow the 26000 election result was tainted by russia no evidence has ever been presented i mean every single thing that we have learned since when you 16 as sure that there really there was no russian intervention except for it what it did prove though were going to go to a break will break what it did prove is that this was a conspiracy ok but they didnt prove it ok so instead of coal when we debunk it were conspiracy there is when when they were refused to rebut us you know that they they believe that their narrative hows about you because they will they wont debate around that jump in here gentlemen when you go to a short break now lets or break well continue our discussion and some real news stay with marcie. 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Whats happening to the internet in these platforms critically facebook and twitter and then we can throw in google here we have seen particularly in the last weeks the last few days last week where they have very very stridently interfered into the political process and were talking about the growing scandal and allegations around the Vice President former Vice President s son. And we have seen facebook and twitter actually acknowledge their involvement in this and theyve kind of pulled back a little bit but i mean whats really quite amazing to me is that again weve talked about russia gave in the 1st part of this program all of that was based was not based on any verifiable public sourcing and they let it go on and on and on and on and then when they have a case here and were all 3 of us are saying allegations im not a lawyer im not looking at the direct evidence myself im looking at reporting on it and i will judge for myself but even that they dont want you to do thats what makes this very very serious and very very dangerous in a people dont Say Something and be heard it will become a trend go ahead. Well basically if you woke up. Against the socalled conspiracy theorists and ted just very strange almost awful i mean im caught young if you go here the Conspiracy Theory is kuwait that there is that criminal organization. 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Called saroj event name me one of their facebook phoned us saying that something i called something should be done because social networks now operate in like Chemical Industry in the 1950 s. And their poison everything their own themself they grabbed huge profits and outlawed and theyre refusing to have any control over them well just recently weve heard from facebook and from a primary can politicians know what imitations are on the internet should be imposed in china in russia you know the congress well basically in russia there are almost no limitations you know you can read or impressed you can read people claim and they can boil them to navarre needs not pregame but that its not labeled we dont know such a thing as or. You know even something just i havent seen it in russia i mean ive seen it hundreds of times in the american internet so its a very strange story. And does not strange its very easy to explain i think youre george i mean isnt you know the interesting thing is that if we look again at the the controversy surrounding the former Vice President s ok with what these Major Social Networks are doing theyre putting up. Barriers on all sides ok and what they want to do its an instrument to maintain the status quo this is what this is all the bow to main pain the people in power ok in anyone thats rennes that status quo of the ruling and leads will be challenged and because of than the nature of the technology you can beat disappear i mean youve just gone from the ether ok and its ideologically driven but its also you know in a sense class driven to ok to protect. Peoples. Assets and properties and things like as when they want to do it this ruling class wants to reproduce itself ok based on their ideas of merit and they dont want anybody else coming in and you know what these Internet Companies are perfect for these people to maintain their power in position ok the fascinating thing is that we always think about technology is evolution in changing in the next revolution all that right now no these people are starved status quo people go ahead george yes thats right and it goes back to 2016 to 2016 was a profound shock to the global elites trumps shock victory in the United States the exit referendum in the u. K. And from that moment on appeal. Crash a group only Internet Companies i mean because up until then the Internet Companies were basically you know they left but i had a pretty much a laissez faire attitude. Because it seemed like most of the obama isnt would go on forever and from that moment on theres suddenly the politicians the media started telling me it is your fault you did it you allowed hootin to manipulate you you allow trump and holy conspiracy theorist around trying to manipulate you are you allowed the bricks it is to manipulate you you better get to shape up or you will be in trouble and the Internet Companies who are more powerful than any company that has ever been in the history of the world i mean sound at all will 80 and see where nothing of powerful is Google Facebook and twitter i mean they control the flow of information throughout the world. That thick power and once they decide who gets on the platform and who and how we can manipulate the algorithm so that no one can actually find you on google then of course you know they went to abbott and so when he saw that oh it will just deny space to the holocaust deniers oh well well just deny do the neo nazis and willow just deny to alex jones it was step by step because they knew that oh it was fine you know thats a good idea a little bit we dont want to give space to the novices but then of course it doesnt expand it will be denied the people who are opposed to vaccines will deny platform to the people who expressed skepticism about the coronavirus will deny now space to people who transmit information about the biden and now we got a point when even the president of the United States this campaign has closed down the president s of press secretaries close down so they are totally involved in this Election Campaign and this is this is a. You know literally on what organization what theyre doing what theyre doing to which is very very interesting is that they are these social Media Networks they are in a position to choose winners and choose losers ok they will choose who the public can have access to what happened to the New York Post is a very good example i like to remind our viewers Alexander Hamilton established that publication in some one of the longest running publications in america and and of course you know it its very salacious its a murdoch operation right now but it still has real journalists there the article that they presented on the evidence they found on hunter but whats what what what really terrifies me is that if theyd have taken it upon themselves to pick winners and losers and what do you need to mock receive for they they decide to go ahead well you are right though for some conspiracy theorists is the double impunity for all of the conspiracy thoughts i mean the. You know the whole impeachment thing was based on an exam go vind bounce in my the socalled facts you know a whole called presentation you know is facts being fact they know and he was placed on a military base and his family was protected thats how do you more chris she walks you know. And and sound hollow it or they all do bonked i mean trungpa still in power and that is how do women get law is not facing any questions you know how come he made all these allegations then ill quote him this big. There are many claims in the internet any corny bar it will be called in the vatican and opus dei before she makes any judge issue decisions well its baloney but hes anyone punished for the. Oh no and they can continuation all and brushes behind Everything Everything you know everywhere you have russians well basically if you want if you want to know why it may be or became weaker its not because trump is crazy its because after trumps election the European Union had a summit meeting where they pronounced them arrogant president and the russian president to be a court threats to European Security so this huge Conspiracy Theory which is basically breaking alliances this Conspiracy Theory about some secret link between putin and trump it is these Conspiracy Theory that is key to Nato Alliance because how can trump trust these people who basically have a consensus declaring the president all the lead states for the 1st day when history and threat to European Security or the hebrew are said Something Like reb of course through it was a threat to see a bright but otherwise i dont remember any cases when european politicians will say and we can president you know hes dangerous hes a threat to us well and trouble is an ideological threat because we criticize you my lord and i think he deserves criticism might he is not bottle that ideology they cannot just come down and except that you know they they are using every weapon against him bad as he is you know george you know weve talked about the power of these of these companies an unprecedented power but you know it seems to me that theyre timid theyre very timid people ok theyre afraid of people thinking theyre afraid of people drawing their own conclusions i mean you know people who criticize you know different experiments of socialism is the nanny state ok this is really what it is its its the the net any internet its the mini information sphere where it will all be controlled for you youll be in a school said ok or in. Nancy pelosi say we feed the people get them believe that she said that but thats the mentality of these elites we feed the people go ahead yes yes and of course if you look at the people who stop these companies there was always. Democratic operatives members of the Obama Administration or at senior positions within the d. N. C. And these are the people who will then decide what we can see and i know that sam it did because there are all the politicians i mean they they had beautiful caught out of complete impunity which you know it is so men who have been claiming to be this. They are not only neutral and of course theyre right but this is not going to be taken away from them and thats our right that the government is going to come after them wade did. For a few years anyway against microsoft so you are basically a monopoly it seems to me and again i go back to my these this is that you know these companies are in the service of status for their own wealth and influence for example and the politicians that will do their bidding here so it seems to mean that you know obviously these companies are monopolies and should be broken up but the throwing his favorite word ideology song is there in the ideological service of these people i dont think theyre going to go down the path of antitrust gentlemen would run out of time on a day i guess in budapest and moscow i dont think our viewers for watching us here are to see a next time remember. You can. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you then. Is youll be via reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. Isolation community. 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