A tory bank bailout austerity something that may have contributed to britains poor response to coronavirus coming up in the show in the wake of these perfect storm revelations we asked dr jacobs plan well start of netflixs pandemic about the race for a vaccine and why lockdowns seem to be the only cure some nations understand and as the u. K. Government sparks outrage with its approach to everything from the arts to refugees to a man who came to this country as a refugee from somalia sheffields youngest lord mayor and former green party any magic magic about fighting a system led by politicians blind to the damage they cause all the some more coming up in todays going underground but 1st in this month of the anniversary of the u. S. Backed murder of revolutionary change in bolivia the poorest country in latin america tomorrow goes to the polls up for grabs for nato affiliated multinational corporations in bolivias elections are the Worlds Largest known deposits of lithium used in the batteries of all our mobile phones and computer. Has former president evo morales had struck deals with nato nation media vilified countries russia and china before he was arguably overthrown by the socalled washington consensus here he is describing to the former president of ecuador Rafael Correia here on r t whats at stake some of the groups in whose hands are going to make power is concentrated in not forgive us for creating social movements especially the indigenous populations movement which has changed the image of our beautiful country the also cannot forgive us for nationalizing our Natural Resources and Strategic Companies which has improved believe his Economic System upon the successful creation of a developed lithium industry mr oldmeadow and i lent to sadly the in prices on the world market i realized that some industrialized countries are afraid to compete 1st in the field of Technological Development and 2nd they do not want other countries to follow the example of our economic model which is based on socialism even if morales is Movement Toward socialism or mass wins tomorrows elections against opponents including those who support nato policy though the postcoup massacres of Indigenous People by those defacto backed by the west are as nothing compared to the impact of coronavirus on a vessel neoliberal private health state joining me now from San Francisco and california for the latest developments as to freeing the earth from the specter of covert is dr jacob land bellew reached out to President Trump when he caught the deadly virus jacob welcome back to going underground so weve heard johnson and johnson eli lilly those companies that trump used to talk about a lot of the podium at the white house theyve had to stop there are trials just tell me what you think trump took before we get on to the why there are context of responses what a trump take to save his life right. Medicine supersede mark pretty early but i actually think that neither action a treatment that he received to anybody. General are you received as of yet. Just antiviral gilliatt and that he received. Now these do 3 Different Things they have a body serves to go in neutralize the virus they get everywhere in the body except they dont get in the top layer of lung tissue very well then the antiviral rendez of the air is basically slowed down the virus once its already in a cell or maybe more obvious that cell and then finally the steroids what it really does is it knocks down your immune system its normally they give it to you way later in the infection when their goal is to stop your muses going from overreacting and attacking your lungs your are maybe even your brain so they decided to get all 3 at once and in this case it seems like you and i just away from kobe just for a 2nd ive been saying on this show regeneration that had links to cuba because the c. E. O. Once visited cuba ive also been repeating something some Mainstream Media outlets have that the region or on the treatment may be based on fetal stem cells i understand ive been talking rubbish. Half truths so in 1983 there was a study and another once where they isolated a act uniting 3 human embryonic any cell number 293 this is a human cell it was derived from a fetus and that cell it was immortalized so you can grow never any copies of it and over the next 50 years that those copies of that use of that cell ended up in laboratories all over the world such that most out of Technology Companies use actually 13. 00 is just at the false self you want to grow proteins that come out of human cells be dont have to go and a person to take their tissue and you can use acting 13 and so thats been used by laboratories all over the world to generate the virus but i do the same to say that every Biotechnology Group has been working on a virus prices probably use act united through a certain points during their research you know ok well it will be up to a week only barrett to presume were on the Supreme Court to figure out privy angles there on us is weighed certainly that context. Back to the actual vaccine you think that we shouldnt be overly concerned about the fact theres not being as yet a peer reviewed. Level trial vaccine yes i mean we need those those trials. But i am an optimist that the vaccines are going to work in the data so far from multiple vaccines and theyre all exceeding expectations the threshold was set pretty low by the f. D. A. Oh if you percent effectiveness i think were seeing in excess of 80 percent. That vaccines are listening anybodys and you know anybody can provide protection some of that axioms are also stimulating t. Cells well still need those base 3 trials with the vaccine all under all because those are the trials we start making our rare attention the important side effects and thats also in the base 3 trials when youre actually letting a bunch people out into society and seeing if they get sick or not so there was one of the trials that was caused because of a couple subjects seen like that neural inflammation there article inflammation after receiving the vaccine so theyre checking to see is the sister one sense or is the presence of this vaccine somehow causing the immune system to attack maybe this person was in fact you were on a virus and now its attacking their nerves maybe the vaccine cause neurological act this is very rare but it is something that has been observed in vaccines previously is that the astra zeneca said the one dribble to which some people have already been saying they may have restarted the trials 2 too soon im not sure what your view is. We all likely would need to see the data to know i think it you know there there have been. Cases ambar syndrome associated vaccines previously so this is not unprecedented and we know that the current a virus does in fact its not all tissue thats one of the unique things about this virus youve been not in this whole year is that there is a risk that this this virus gets out loss it can in fact are tissue infect ranges shared neurons so we need to keep in mind with our vaccines and whether anybody therapies that theres going to be some group that while that axiom is kicking in they may get infected so thats what were checking for is to make sure that actually doesnt it in an early start causing tissue now again were not confirm that thats a problem yet it may be just fine but thats certainly something scientists are thinking i mean you last time you were on we talked a little bit about how big Multinational Pharmaceutical Companies seem to be benefiting from Research Money has that improved since i must put to you. Not yet but im going to be that we have anybody carries on these Big Companies they have obviously spent billions of dollars in many decades paving the way for technologies that i now use but it would help i think for there to be more chips on the table on more Technology Companies so my company in particular are anybody is different than the other. Chose to turn off are the anybody that causes activation of the union system and this was a safety feature we were concerned that you could potentially el patient by giving anybody a lot of virus at the same time it made us information that could be problematic i think what companies and countries should choose to do is invest in gold prices because we do not know yet which ones that we do know that clearly. Molecule has just been poz because of safety concerns now we dont know what that is and it may be unrelated but this trial has a mystery illness as all we know because this is all top secrets of elf from the Big Pharma Companies go so imagine that that is the safety of factor comes your problem general is going to have the same problem and you really want to have in your back pocket an alternative solutions such as our molecule which may be protected from that so thats the reason you dont want to put all your eggs in one basket i think everybody thinks theres going to be this great Vaccine Party when the vaccines that these are great im glad we have them but the truth is not everyones going to take them they dont work on everybody and theres a lady. And you have a lot up and were going to have a very confusing 2021 where people are going to continue to all who are in the Hospital System so thats why we need a therapy and a vaccine and thats whats going to get the world back on track and i think that that message should really permeate the 1st out of 24 i mean i do with thing is i suppose it permeates better with the public at large maybe than the stenographer journalist who just read the big pharma press release where you have with your treatment for coronavirus yeah so we were fortunate that we 1st off my my companys profitable i didnt develop antibodies for about that. There are mostly to accompany it so i was able to invest my own money into pursuing this there because i believed it was necessary you benefit from by laboratories across 3 nations that helped us validate our molecule as neutralizing the on a virus and protect it asters from getting sick and then we benefited from charles or laboratories surprised us supported our safety in Toxicity Research and are working with your Great Companies add in that little or sigma out there doing our manufacturing of the drug so this present position to start our studies early in the new year we are knocking on doors still in the United States and were beginning to talk to other countries as well as Additional Resources that accelerate that so we essentially start in december but either way the studies once they start their fast because unlike a vaccine study reacted get a bunch of shots go under people and wait a long time for the vaccine there and and then wait longer another 3 months to see if theyre acted within anybody there your studies are a few weeks the is you grab people in a shot ospital you test them there go that positive saturday be on their on their arm and then over the next 10 days you know where the drug and that means you can very quickly face one face to face 3 thats the good news bottom line is our medicine will be available. 2020 well given your star that netflix film maybe should get money from them but do you think about other countries i mean im going to ask the geopolitical let alone the k. Street big pharma angle to funding for these things the u. S. The National CounterintelligenceSecurity Center apparently is as it says in russia china and iran are preventing the u. S. From getting a covert vaccine now one presumes do they mean the russian sputnik 5 vaccine which tens of thousands of taken but then the press here say rush is lying about that vaccine one of the geo political stakes specially in the context of you maybe getting funding from abroad of this panacea to corona virus so look at. As a computational biologist and algorithm developer theres this concept of boosting which says if youre building an algorithm to solve a problem its actually better to have multiple Different Solutions and then have all sort of compete to create a solution its sort of what were having globally and im actually glad that there are multiple there are back scenes lucians all over the world and theyre obviously they need to be tested in any useful way and we need to accurately report the results there are governments and companies that have self interest here that may misaligned with the public good and i think thats something we need to keep an eye on but but ultimately we have a challenge and that is that no single entity is going to produce enough vaccine to protect the whole earth and we need to do that and so were actually better off having multiple options that work a little different and theyre all doing different manufacturing so if you make that goes out there and then we will shift gears whatever vaccine works best as well the lockdowns continue i mean here with us to talk about it im sure in the United States i mean thats the pelosi speaker the have said u. S. Regulations are tougher than the ones over here in britain maybe yes or seneca pox a vaccine might not even be able to be used in the United States as these sorts of criteria are really going to make a big difference to the response in some countries and no in others as regards kovan yeah i think there are going to be some differences and that is something that we spend some time on it for anybody therapy you run into this issue right so we are a u. S. Based company we focus on talking with the f. D. A. And b. As in theory there are going to been large amounts of money available that we have and access the majority of it but at the same time hes a problem for us i would be deeply unsatisfied and in fact it does not solve the problem if our drug just is available at the u. S. And groups that accepts. Decisions by the f. D. A. On on what constitutes an acceptable medicine that is part of the world but you have to consider all their friends regions of the world and if youre serious we are serious as a collective Human Society about this and then we need to make sure that the medicines are accessible and affordable. Medicines are accessible people can take them. And what we know is that those people will just keep reinventing every one of us even if youre a psychopath you should still want to have everyone on the world that is in a need to be affordable as well this isnt a major problem ive seen so far is that people are writing to you produce these medicines there are large corporations were looking and saying oh were going to eat in excess of 10000000000 dollars and 2020. Thats great for that would motivate them to solve the problem but it actually hasnt because if theyre charging so much erdos that not everyone can afford it then again theres going to be many people who are going to be in fact the rest of us and we do not talk to Jacob Glanville thank you thank you after the break from sheffield to the European Union to the white house we talked disrupting the going to trickle status quo with the youngest lord mayor of sheffield the one of the last u. K. I. P. Peace magid mind you all this or more coming up about to going underground. Welcome back from an arguably haphazard approach to coronavirus restrictions to allegations that the home secretary considered building an asylum Processing Center on the u. K. s most remote territory in the suggestion that those working in the arts should retrain for some it has been another ugly rocky week for the u. K. Conservative government one which some of noted as not being reflected by a majestys opposition so with no formal pushback to an arguably destructive government approach how can one utilize their own abilities to fight for justice and equality one man who has experience pushing back against powerful forces from a seemingly new liberal Labor Council to the president of the United States is the youngest ever lord mayor of sheffield and former green m. E. P. Magic his new book the art of disruption and manifest of a real change is out now and going underground Deputy Editor charlie cook caught up with him to talk about it not to think you start to carry on going underground youre the youngest sheffield and youre one of the last year k. M. A. Pays to tell us about the arts of disruption your new book slash manifesto so and this book is a guide in courageous doing batson against the angel palestra which is going to not be what life im politics they can use stories from becomes a contrast refugee with my family aged 5 growing up in a possibly Northern City jeff fields and right foods me being a council an old man being an elected Member European Parliament so i guess if you want to know if you want to make a change because small you dont know where to start this book is definitely you you mentioned coming from somalia as a refugee just tell me about that. Basically and there was a civil war happening within somalia and we could have ended anywhere in the world like many of the people many of the refugees have to leave the home for many Different Reasons to be honest and we left our family our friends everything behind just to kind of seek safety. And you and we can and it up in sheffield that it was done. A brief stint in ethiopia and ended up coming to sheffield for those that on the sheffield is the 1st city of century in the u. K. Its got a very long rich history in welcoming people from all across the world and despite what the had right wing media tabloids tell you a lot of refugees dont come to make anyones life and use insults make any difficult than it already is this is a case of wants to see refugees more than anything else and i see couldnt become too bad place to just humans i do want to get onto a time as lord maddie to tell a bit but i just wanted to get your opinions on the recent story the pretty tallis proposing to send Asylum Seekers the ascension islands i know you mention the strain in style immigration system in europe it is just as evil and then they wanted to shit refugees into an island god knows where an onus is just discussed in im human and the sad thing is i dont i actually. Im not surprised specially with some of the draconian policies and initiatives that shes been pushing forward and we all have to do everything that we can to watch and make sure that nothing like that actually comes up and of course. The fall of the whole astray in sas is some of the should have gone either the sad thing is that the children people are base being stuck on this island that sister education on anything and its not a model that we should be driving in us putting ourselves once its below any shape or form. Would obviously say shes always acted appropriately sideways i think nicely into a point you make in the book about being accused of being too political why do you think that is used as kind of a flower accusing you of being too political i think the american because a lot of people at times just are just happy with the status quo and when they see somebody whos housed basically is innocent in just being a bit of a shock some are more people say our budget you know you need to tone it down you know maybe shouldnt talk about that be too political but being someone whos a black muslim comes conscious refugio it would how can i not be political everything is political and i feel as if i would be such a disservice if i didnt use my plot for the kind of speak i can see just as not only the eyepiece but other people face as well i know ive been fortunate to have a good and have a following and have a platform that everyone has got a degree of influence and with their own circle so the quantifiers expose not only the deep inequalities in our society but also proven what many progressive people being we are only as secure as the most vulnerable amongst us and when you are lord matt this is where kind of the accusations even to political kind of seem to pop up the most the think you might remember is the time you bond donald trump from sheffield which got you in trouble by no less than the managing director of boeing at the time so it was done. State visit and the time when our government was voted to read copy out someone who is a rapist a homophobe a racist and i just kind of puts most of this is not the sort of message we should be kind of giving not to because bios voted their copy well and bolding not only him but all his father was all the far right group funny so it was a case of like you know im not going to tolerate especially being the 1st is that of sheffield i was i listened to maybe one of the red cop out but well the doc is hes not welcome in sheffield and the thing is people would always say the magic is and america are our biggest allies we need to kind of like how come you just because it was in a couple of 1000 the last kind of compared to say if one of your friends was basically an absolute painted be in a race being ridiculous youll say to this in. Itself are the 5 bytes of my house on the coast going to be people will be like oh you talk about donald trump and the head of boeing basically say and its not good for business in sheffield i was and basically didnt expect that reaction by still stunned by my position hopefully calm and the end of the movement. The president owes the president from but tonight being a rapist a homophobe or a racist or is it politics is notorious for gate keeping and you talk in the book about how many people dont know what a counsellor does or how the kind of intricacies of british politics i want to top it with another thing in the book that you didnt wear seat when you became a lot mad you think these kind of things are in place that by design to stop disruptors like you from entering politics weve all been socially conditioned some degree in terms of what we should expect of expect of politicians look like what background they come from. All these kind of things and i guess from someone like me who kind of comes from a completely different but ground and what people expects innocent people kind of get taken but by that its the people that we are lex to be i would leaders dont reflect the people they represent even if we look at the government cabinet for example the majority of them call from come from and 2nd class and bugger all. Multimillionaires and well its actually issues like austerity Child Poverty how they really meant understand the real devastating effects impacts its going to have if theyve not really kind of had to experience dollars not reflected in their leadership so for me even if it was basically you know if you just basically speed unapologetically myself in an environment that was a built for someone like me i remember violence and fussing during the ramadan and actually opening my fast in the lord mayors all of that was built over under an odd years when i dream of thinking to myself i doubt the people i would see them built built this magnificent grandiose building would have ever thought that somebody was a blackness in a few jews going to be holed in a if thats so i think honestly for politics im for politicians to really have an equal society of some sorts what was that and this is that people need to be reflected in their leaders you clashed with other councillors a lot when you lord and they were accusing you of breaking with tradition but what struck me and what you highlight in the book is that sheffield has a radical political history and so in a way youre in keeping with tradition while they were living on outsourcing and. Exactly so i guess like sheffield always had a radical political history like the fast so for jet Society Organizations a few female political sources should happen if 851. 00 ad would come up and so much so and i think the thing is we with River Council it was a case of a power more than anything else fine if like some ill get in how executive power but in terms of soft power and. Really man its a kind of like when one person can galvanize momi dhea and more kind of our support and kind of influence did the entire Councils Come stephen it was it became an issue for them well anything else and he was trying to put a barrier after baria and signing and basically supporting p. F. I contrived contracts using this is Labor Councils whos an Anti Trade Union laws and imprison its own citizens were basically doing civil disobedience doing peaceful protest in and its the people that kind of do that and the day is this is in sheffield and obviously at times especially the beginning like of course the whole and pasta job i thought maybe ive got it wrong but support a kind of faith and confidence came from what i was seeing people like and all the arts and culture organizations all the charities all the young people across sheffield supporting me and then people in the council as they always break in tradition and listen we used to have traditional women want to lots of oh all the things that we commit new traditions as well and i always say tradition is just peer pressure from dead people listen you cant please everyone and i knew that from the get go i mean those images you represent everyone in sheffield and of course you go without them but if you try to be adams cup of tea you might be a mug because all i could do is just be true to myself and to my principles and of course do everything with the best of intentions and at times people didnt agree with it even when i decided to wear a white top when i always wear white poppy well it was the Sheffield Council would say theyve always acted appropriately i want to just talk about Environmental Issues right now is close to your heart because youre obviously one of the last you cammy piece for the green party and you mentioned how politicians may not be able to see the effects of their policies when it comes to things like austerity but can you just tell me the story of alec hissy deborah you mention in your book on the dangers of appalachian. Advocacy deborah. Was a young in london subway last life judy absolution and in london and her mother has basically been campaigning nonstop and. They have got a inquiry start basically looking and trying to come up with new policies to kind of tackle that because the time people say we listen we cant see kind of change because when experience in a day to day and judge times people suffer the most when it comes in type Climate Crisis is people in the global south even in the u. K. Even in shuttle for example there was a school that had to be close and just because the level of absolution was that but it was completely like and i think like an average 500. 00 early deaths accumulate in sheffield but had so i like its its weve got one plan and we need to kind of live with me that for me is something ive always basically kind of tried to put at the forefront. And in everything i do to be honest and i guess one of the things im also true at the moment is im going to be working with a few european racing time just as organizations just to look at the intersection between race and the class and the whole Climate Crisis because we cant talk about the kind of process that recognize its also an inequality and race issue at the same time because the people who do suffer from the Climate Crisis all those people from any backgrounds from working class backgrounds who already suffered with a lot of things as it is is the realms of what can be done have dramatically expanded over the visa events and i was the result we have to really consider whats possible not to be ambitious but really in mind more more than anything else so as a kind of with one of the problems we face is it just come down from the heavens they were made by bad human decisions and mainly by men in suits their full good images can actually change everything thats why we really cant no longer just i guess on the sidelines i just ask you one more i dont know if you had the chance to research not saying that artists and musicians should look for other employment at this time what do you make of that someone who has championed and culture in sheffield is completely disheartening and the reality is that its hard to miss. Into a constant you. And i time specially the people be benefiting from this is the 1000000000 is the good how many acts of seizures not just piled on i think person is because all engender sympathy and its really hard to be empathetic person. So its in their interest to completely disseminate anything to do with culture and especially outside everything thats happening is one of the things that we kind of rely on as a society and its just a shame we need challenging. Chancellor she said i found all of it out in the cold sector to say theyve done everything they can for the edge of magic thank you so much for being with us now thank you very much Deputy Editor charlie cook there speaking to the youngest lord mayor of sheffield badgered magid in his book the art of disruption a manifesto for real change is out now will be back on monday and youll enjoy me on the ground by following up on Twitter Facebook instagram and so. Welcome to max kaiser financial survival guide. 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