Rubber but joe is an attorney as well as executive director of the Rainbow Push Coalition arent the only hospitals in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it ok robert lets go to you in washington. What do you what is your assessment so far of the proceedings that it will see most likely judge bear become an associate justice of the Supreme Court i was very troubled to be honest with you the number of times the democrats said shameful shameless i mean what is shameful about the Legal Process that were seeing right now i understand fully well that theres a lot of issues that divide people here but the proceedings themselves are pretty straightforward and its not the 1st time its happened but the media doesnt give you that impression so what are your thoughts are on these proceedings. 25 to 60 remember him in a sort of group. Lindsey graham ever sort of was sort of my roots of. Some pretty. Messed with some but some really rare sort of happens and. When the. Letters are. Going to be so that. Every entire country better than bennett that sort of question of evidence that people have. Been that there was an answer and thats why the republican said there would be a mundane day i mean what it does here but they voted for these senators and theyre sent to senators 6 their job. As you said in the constitution to. To advise and and eventually vote here. I agree with robert here i but i dont really care what Lindsey Graham says i but who cares mcconnell i dont care what they say about this i care what it says in the constitution i care what is legal and what is not legal here and so when a politician says its neither here nor there and this issue ation go ahead. Yeah. Its legal and its constitutional theres a big difference between this year and 2016 the democrats couldnt get the votes in the senate to get their nominee its. That simple they had the opportunity and they had the presidency but you have to have the senate to this time the republicans have the presidency and the senate and as you may know 29 times theres been a vacancy during an Election Year the business of the government has to could go on to continue. Ok lets talk about the substance here. Obviously to mean that the entire proceedings of orris been turned into a Democratic Campaign event here because i think it was jurgen i mean he spoke the entire time to the nominee and he didnt even ask her one question but he certainly went through all of the hot wire issues of this campaign i mean it is that dignifying the entire process and even ask her a question absolutely. But this is a question of character. This one question you have to have the best. Interest of the passes and embedded i suppose that were never going to have a situation where. Theres an asset have been some of. Their. Jobs are going to. Test a sad. And a kind of these things have less impact sequences are. Giving them good. Dressing. Room. Sure. We have one of. Them is no good and. Well get there but i mean ok i agree i mean were green on one point you know there is that level of politicking but the the the role of the senate in this whole process is advise and consent ok its used to be when you and i were younger men lets put it that way you were basically the senates job was to determine if the nominee was capable they were if they had a good judicial mind but thats not what we saw on display during these hearings here it is much more trying to pin someone down in a political issue and we all learned since bork its not going to happen anymore go ahead. Yeah well what what the big elephant in the room here that were not discussing is for many years now the democrats have been using the courts to try to change not just american law but American Culture they couldnt when at the ballot box for example referendums in the most liberal states in the country like california they would lose to the voters and so it was important for them to get judges who would override the will of the voters and impose laws which is what happened and i work for a president George Herbert walker bush back in that day the republicans would appoint a conservative and then to be nice theyd appoint a liberal because the democrats couldnt get their own on the Supreme Court so david souter was put on the Supreme Court but you dont have that today donald trump was elected because he said ill put conservatives on the Supreme Court was one of the main reasons people voted for him many fold an upset in the election so hes kept his promise hes kept his word and hes got the votes so hes doing it so when you say conservative judges that its i think we may should make it clear were looking at original lists ok now not not using the constitution to get the laws you want but to in to interpret be. A laws as that was defined by the constitution so i think we have always had to make it clear you know you. Conservatives tend to be originalists obviously were all it would speak to their i mean and for me i throw a plague on both parties if you cant get what you want to the legislative process both parties throw it to the courts is that a good idea and it doesnt make the court dysfunctional and become more dysfunctional theres going to talk about hacking in the 2nd half program so i mean it seems to me as an abdication of responsibility from the congress that they cant get it done they just punt. Every computer every. I think i better read something so. Much better than sure it was about about. The American People whatever. The conservative justices were too generous and. It was better than. My motives to gay marriage were to be American People. And so i was probably was trying to do. So. And stand in the family to the mentioned that together we had to start them by a person conversations with simply a set of several so that maxis met marcus or theres a bad american majority in do some 2 of them actually better and there becomes a campaign to be a stranger in political elections. That. Have become the tiebreakers and thats what ive become and. Thats a terrible terrible place to be and but having said robert you know i im still very very angry how the democrats treated kavanah i thought that was unconscionable behavior on National Television destroying a mans reputation without a shred of evidence in front of his family and this is what the courts have gotten down to is some kind of you know. Drudge for thats being played out here joe i mean how does that influence the perception of the court because if you only enough and youre angry enough and you start islands that was the case some people being pushed around here i mean i thought the Supreme Court was the place where that exactly that kind of stuff exactly doesnt go ahead yeah i think that in the case of cavanagh backfired on the democrats they realize that thats why their tactics its changed this time they didnt know what to say to me called the parents she just sits there like mona lisa. I dont think silence has ever spoken so loudly as that as through her she doesnt seem to react if the questions are friendly are if the questions are hostile she just expresses on her face intelligence an irony and i think shes the perfect appointment for this ball but i think they did a good job in making her brilliant cant make robert it in looking at some of the questions that were asked by the Democratic Senators senators you would get the sense that the entire Supreme Court is about a womans right to choose the how many abortion i mean and as far as i understand theres nothing on the court docket right now that even has anything to do with abortion rights whatsoever what lying is that isnt just a red button issue that the Democrats Use to whip up the base and weapon interest in this whole process. I think if thats true absent of. Some damage to the pats web user so many good. Mental health insurance. George and i had a better mix of. Sometimes. The intention of going to assume. A majority and of those rights so it was meant as a. Request and so if theres any. Question. In the kids and i think thats. Sad to. Say what you said. And theres time and then which of the best American People in chairs that list im trying to determine. The temperament and thats just this pretense of justice so you have the essence to questions and. To mention the rest of the social. So. You know robert i am so glad you brought up the commerce issue because it seems to me. As the republicans and the democrats you know they fight these cultural wars so many of these judges you know go under the wire you know under the radar and so much of what they actually do has to do with commerce and with the economy but again the way the Media Projects the court its about gay rights its about abortion rights but theres a whole lot more to it ok and i think that you know we might with kavana i have no idea what he thinks about those things because all they talked about was his yearbook ok and well see what they do with amy ok i mean this senator from hawaii had a very bizarre question of the judge im not to repeat it here because i thought it was so disgusting but you know there are they disagree or does a whole lot of things but the way its betrayed in the media you wouldnt think so what do you think. Well as to abortion and as you know the whole question is moved beyond the initial polls favoring a womans right to choose when you have these visual moments where a baby is delivered and set out on a table and then a governor from a state says the baby can be executed or killed that thats an abortion from the oak the babys already exit at the womb youve reached an area where the polls would not necessarily sustain a right to choose so that issue but you really have a point we dont talk about chi have a lot of a good point and i want you to have a good answer but i have to get a hard break were going to go to a break right now kind of nationally in your discussion on the Supreme Court say. L. Look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. 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Well the the elephant in the room the thing were not discussing is the fact that this is all about big corporations that america that are badly and the big corporations want regulations they depend on regulations thats what freezes out the mom and pop shops and the Big Companies cant afford regulations so theyll get behind any special Interest Group on the left or the right it doesnt matter theyll fund as long as theyve got more regulations to freeze you and i from starting our own business if we wanted to start a business wed have to pay a lawyer thousands of dollars just to read the regulations let alone an act that youll notice even with the shutdown target didnt shutdown cosco didnt shut down the Big Companies walmart they continued it was the mom and pop shops the restaurants that are wiped out and thats why the big macs will be via so corporates the democrats they hate donald trump these the deregulator hes the man that came in and busted all the regulations and allowed Small Businesses to thrive its why billionaires supported hillary 21 and billionaires right now you can google this and look at up support biden support team to want because the big corporations want Big Government regulations you know but you bet it does same time let me go back to robert here i mean even the conservative vote with anomaly what people call conservative judge is they tend to have a very strong business preference ok and its something that is not pointed out in the open and im really glad that we have. Were talking about here because i think it gives the gives it cover again fighting these culture wars there but it gets or temperature up when you know what about the condition of the economy and the Supreme Court actually plays a very Important Role that and i and before we go on to packing identity think that a lot of liberals conservatives can find common cause if we focus on this part of the courts work and not always on all these cultural wars ok ok i already mentioned the word packing i know a lot of democrats that maybe they wont say it out loud but they do like the idea that a court in parent gets the spot what do you think robert. I think of the nonsense argument i think as well one of things that pops up you know we dont were going to eliminate the Electoral College were going to end the filibuster heard donald trump animals before and both say they want to illuminate the filibuster were going to the courts the ori let your concepts that have no bearing on reality because in order to do any of those things you have to have the sort of political majority that would. Make those things look good tort that if you get 70 votes you may extinction if you get a majority house of representatives if you get me white house if you think legislature is behind you in order to do Something Like the courts or in the filibuster or get rid of the Electoral College they wouldnt need to do those things because you have the sort of political majority that would be able to fix the problems you know thats not in the case of happy in the court and doesnt that doesnt apply i mean Electoral College thats separate but it does and you know i mean that its a pretty the constitution does not determine the number of justice is this matter by weve had more than 9 at one point in time in history ok though the consensus for a very long time it was 150 years now its been 9 now we know that Franklin Delano roosevelt in 137 tried to do it and his own party ball it him but in biden becomes president there is nothing in the constitution when bar him from appointing more justice that he can do its ok its not. In the eagle job but here yeah yeah thats the scary thing. I agree with robert about the Electoral College anything that would require changing the constitution but this is like a loophole and its a loophole that out of respect the 2 parties have not used but its pretty clear that things are getting tough the battles getting tough and this is an opportunity for the democrats to go for broke and take take over the whole country for another lifetime it would be it would not be socialism in the european sense it would be an american corporate socialism with some some more favored than others but whats new but its a real possibility that is robert it is a real possibility and one of the things i find interesting is that the fact that joe biden wont say any much about it because he knows it was just a by coalition going into the election and you know its politically smart that way ok i totally disagree with everything about him and his entire career in politics but hes smart by keeping his coalition together however theres a lot of promises or implicit promises is hes made you know you know weve got rid of all the gathering up with Bernie Sanders and the progressives are saying well what about up ok and i do think the is the to the buyer if hes in the white house in january its going to be a real temptation to do to appease that part of his base dont you think from an ingenue understanding of the question of retail politics so what do you do on the question of who gets what when but on this idea of core packing i just think its an unrelenting realistic solution because as we saw with ending the in the need for 60 votes for judges of ending the filibuster when it comes to to bring Court Justices what weve seen. Just continue race to the bottom these rules that were previously in place where they are for a reason the sensible to be the cooling saucer. Being the most deliberative body in the world so if you start adding justice that the republican president Justice System and a democratic president will have justices and thats you know the court will just like the congress with nothing still getting done what we really have to do is start thinking about what or be brought across the board political and social solutions that can bring the country together instead of fighting about the things that brought us apart weve been governing in this 5049 version of america for a few decades now and it is not advantageous to any of us we keep bouncing the ball back and forth so instead of talking about packing the court instead of mcconnell and Lindsey Graham simply said we will not give merit growing a hearing but just are working on the things that can actually get things done for americans and not simply for the politicians and as doug said the people who are proffering most of those or the corporations you know just the zoeth in the most dont really care who the president is because theyre they will be billionaires under obama theyre even bigger billionaires under from the corporate elite in this country thats one place where we can all agree are not screwing over the little guy so the focus on both of those issues and the home the. More ridiculous ludicrous idea such as Court Packing into the filibuster getting really left for college and was at work on the breast of the American People care about you know i thought my goodness that it better however robert let me go to doug right now i dont see that might be this polarization as much in the in the way there are so many members of the political elite across the aisle is that this is existential that this will be the moment if there is a democratic now a Democratic Senate and and why now they are there are many people that want to completely remake this country not be conciliatory in the minority but you know the go for the long stretch and they wouldnt have. Howard there would be nothing that would stop them and of course the liberal media will share all the way ok i find this very worrying and i i think every other episode of cross like just people read the federalist papers because the founders were very worried about the the the the tyranny of the majority and we were seeing consolation of course is where the myth that the journey of the majority can actually be put into play. Yeah. Thats whats scary my friends on the left are saying no no socialism in america youre so afraid its not going to be bad at all we have socialism already on american campuses or if theres theres no free speech on american campuses as Isaiah Berlin said in his lectures that the voice of the individual should not drown out the voice of the community thats the rationale that socialists use to eliminate free speech but i have a question for you peter and for you robert and that is who were missing this right now statehood for washington d. C. In puerto rico does that require a constitutional amendment are can that be simply voted by congress well 1st of all i think would be in violation of the constitution because there is a cart way for washington d. C. A very specific one where it would not become a state ok about puerto rico thats something completely different as far as i understand it was under general war that youre there in the story and of the president president gerald ford or a general for 28 of the on the option to become unstable from that mistake and. I dont know you coming flatfooted on this one all i do know is that people have been calling or its ok. And and and there is a process and im not prepared to go through that right now because i dont want to be back. Well i think we have theyre very different situations as you said for puerto rico and for the washington d. C. Washington d. C. Was the least abhisit independent federal city to be d. C. The government the entire concept is that you should not have the federal government being subsumed by State Government if you didnt make washington d. C. A state that who is in charge the governor of the state of washington d. C. Or the president of United States by being in federal jurisdiction something that is a. More more difficult question on the question of puerto rico puerto rico can be admitted the same way weve been in hawaii or that weve been to the. Middle alaska or in the other territory i think democrats frankly should be focusing on statehood for wall more for the statehood for washington d. C. Because that process is a lot more clear cut as to how they would be admitted to the union. Along ok thats a new one for me without pay with americans here that need a Large Population the been represented a game with 2 senators from. Well i mean but it does you know i think with all due respect to robert i mean this is not about representation its about power obviously you want to have you know a bigger majority in the senate thats what this is all about i respect the citizenship issue ok but the reason why its being part of his power but i said. Yeah the reason i brought it up its the combination that is frightening and that is imminent this upon us right now we cant wait the decisions were making now may already be too late but if the democrats for example win this election they pack the court it dilutes the power of the court as robert said it guarantees back and forth but thats the problem there will be no back and forth at the democrats are able to create news new senators and theyre able to allow immigrants to vote and have medicare why wouldnt immigrants. 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