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And the cease fire agreed between armenia and azerbaijan on saturday is repeatedly being violated with combat activity yet again escalating over the disputed enclave of nagornokarabakh the conflict flared up more than 2 weeks ago but has roots that go back 3 decades with on and off balance of fighting the contested regions mostly inhabited by Ethnic Armenians but is legally part of azerbaijan our correspondent has done off reports from the capital. Before the war this street used to be bustling with life neighbors would come visit each other mothers would read bedtime stories to their children well now its almost completely abandoned after and as a by johnny airstrike basically theres a huge Apartment Building here which is no more there are no windows it has partially collapsed its simply unsafe to live here here people as they ran to safety they abandoned their belongings like childrens bicycles they simply had no time to pack everything and i have to admit that since the truce the city of step on it the capital of nagornokarabakh has it more or less easy been bodman do still happen but they are move rather than they used to be and they are almost entirely almost completely limited to nighttime its more or less the same in of it towns of nagornokarabakh like the towns of martini and shushi in fact thing is similar pictures similar very very similar devastation can also be seen from azerbaijan its 2nd largest city of ganja came under shelling just a couple of days ago. And it would be wrong to say that the fighting has ceased elsewhere too as were filming this theres a faint but a very distinctive sound of shelling coming from over the mountains to the south from here that is where the town of adroit is which is viewed as a gateway into nagornokarabakh so it is a very heavily contested area the fighting is also fierce in the north the. Seems both armenia and azerbaijan are trying to get a firm grip on some key strategic places and heights before real peace negotiations begin as both militaries are fighting for diplomatic leverage a magus down of reporting from the going to carry back r. T. Belgian cellist before the heavily damaged cathedral in the going to come back the musician has armenian roots son played a piece by an armenian composer because it was in the city of shushan was shelled a week ago. Ok the Russian Foreign minister Sergei Lavrov is about to give a live interview to the heads of Russian Media including arties editor in chief Margarita Simonyan that we can see here speaking right now lets have a listen into their conversation. Of 11 hours and you probably didnt think i would smoke or always a little out of the shuttle and not imagine and he reached the cease fire with the 2 sides but there is no ceasefire on the ground unfortunately so i want to ask you is it at all possible to have a ceasefire we russia say that there is no alternative to a peaceful solution but is it at all possible to us all which we political means that will they start in the. First and foremost i want to tell you that these were unique. And crucial moment for the president could contribute it a lot because he was. Always had on the pulse late at night when we were burning the midnight oil already when you he called us was he there in person no he colas. Was a device guard for instance only scheuer who joined us over 2 because it was important to really all you need to do the fact that the ceasefire was that the use that you would use should be are now was because you and coupled with the Verification Mechanism the control and monitor whether. Kept. Us out of the last days several times contacted my counterparts and lattitude year is one. So be sure you did this. To the minister of defense and president having walking back and forth with the leaders of the 2 worry party said our signal here is simple we need. To. Organize meetings between the military so that they would be letting up a mechanism where if occasion of the cease fires no one is talking about that right now. You know half an hour ago it send this very signal eg when i was talking to the foreign minister was there by john. Sending a very same signal to our media colleagues i think this right now we need a last thing ceasefire because it is this still really an infrastructure and the civilians who are suffering the most the. Country and what is that matter in is and its what a Silver Bullet is the political arm of the well when politicians the diplomats say that they agreed to cease all hostilities the military should come in immediately and in the follow up manner coordinates the concrete measures to be taken on the ground to keep the cease fire in place but a side who will be monitoring this is 5 who will be implemented this is fire its not the Silver Bullet perhaps no magic involved it was just like that in the donbass. History region and as we know in donbas there were a number of ceasefire luckily of last couple of weeks it has been holding but only if the fact that the contact groups have agreed to an additional ific i should mention is and so happened in 1904 in the. After the ceasefire was announced. The military would fold up the side of you how to make it happen on the ground and nasser and 2nd part of your question i would just say yes the political settlement is possible and the proposals which are being worked out by the which. They are on the table the sides know about the content so the. Parts of the territory should be freed one by one. And im going to curb our should be guaranteed security and until the status is agreed upon there should be cease fire between armenia and. Secure this scheme is well known to all the parties with the silly goals in the peace recent events but its a spot on they happen but i hope that they will push forward the political process and it will help us improve security situation on the ground. To what use could mean these 2 regions with their media another one they should be disposed. Let me tell you these all the arrangements which we have been discussing with the sides of this conflict so 1st 5 regions should be read then 2 more that will be. And also stage do we devolve the final resolution on the status of caravan and size these student regions all communication lines all Community Ties should be. Again there was very an open. Mission could come in the region to prevent any more students from happening so its all about peacekeeping right. Will come. Through this mechanism. It should start working on the line of contact thats what we believe it. These are the regions which should be freed as the chaman drilling. We need at least observers to be in place. If not. That will be the right thing to do to send observers and. Be that part of the absolution mission they can form that nation with the initial time and i hope that the leadership of year one will take heed of our cup pozole we have good relations with most countries. Very. Good lets call a spade a spade who are in a corner curve laugh it was inspired by turkey. Turkey often times becomes our wealth for far from hell i let me tell you this is where the trouble sometimes syria and other places and we say all the time that turkeys i was to teach elijah. Let me ask you this how is going to be with taking now after the situation who are we to each other rushing to them never said the turkey our eulogy just. Its all part of a very good partner. Some of the tracks of work operation is indeed strategic operation a slot machine. Together in syria. Are working on the levy and rice says. The same time we see that turkey is pushing its own interests in the region so. If its interests are legitimate if these are the turkeys or iran or. Saudi arabia carters digital interests they have their full right to pursue their this is their legitimate. But this whole process it should be transparent when it comes to syria. I think we have the distance parents illegitimacy in place in. That particular sickies military on the tiller josue without being invited by the egyptian authorities or syria but asad. Sharing your school for money he agreed on the estimate for murders and. Arrangements we seek operation. Of us is not of guarantor russia so in iran have already reached a number of disagreements and i believe that this cooperation is key here is this cooperation that has helped this. School its easy to territory. Which terrorists control to a very small fraction of territory look in the easy province least the euphrates the situation is really more complicated we see that there. Is a lot of separate separatism there kurdish population has been inspired to be building different rules of the game. Because. The territories to lisa refrain our government in your very different way they are not controlled by the region doesnt which is so the country for libya which we do Work Together with turkey if they are military our diplomats have. Many times as well as the intelligence are communicating with the dead because we want to be in contact with all. The stakeholders were working together with the east. The west i mean the parliament and the National Border government. As you know they support these National Board of government. But produce good at this in time understand that. We should be pursuing compromises. Common ground with the whole party. Right now the situation in libya squeezed chaotic but we see that the future is improving parties are reaching at least some understanding some common understand it would have a role could egypt. Neighboring countries and they are playing increasing role in this process and we support their hearts and lives you do it right now we need to channel this work really the u. N. To make it a one stop shop like me who didnt like that. We need to stimulate the warring sides in libya so that they would step away from al to meet him as they used to be must know how to make it instead they should go to your shape in table and try to reach accord. The United Nations colleagues in vo and are trying to help the sides to find common denominator and i say to solve her that also takes quite a lot of interest in seeing that these process succeeds. Because it is about taking into account the interests of all sides inside the car flips which are side a country which is cleared by the conflict but also the interests of regional stakeholders if these interests are legitimate and if these interests are should go to well. Appreciated by the insights. That let me interrupt here. To haul should be take into account what about nagornokarabakh should we. Say there is interest in the going to come about his legitimacy. Ill tell you this. We are not. Supposed to leave will not think that. The interest in the girl cobar gentleman because. Mr leaves. Dilute the resume military solution to the african we dont be. Even that. Well turkey says that its exactly the case you said that is going to support any action on the part of us there by john conflict in order to put an end to this conflict including military conflict this intervention we are keeping constantly of our ticket crews communicated several times with the foreign minister of turkey weve super clear of structure we should lose the we stand firmly that there is only peaceful solution to this conflict its the only way. Last piece and lasting solution to this got to because all other things a lot of other options they will. Lead. On ice and thats certainly. Soon or late we need to make peace happen because any military solution will not be a good one in the long run so we will be just the war which would be postponed yes just as in palestine today was more than a cocky let me ask you something again probably we all know that. Is now way more active politically and chip politically than he used to be as we have middle east of libya syria and he believes that its his backyard in a way designer the interest and hes saying that open it as for cyprus plays a game of his own hes dry and. Blue singles push. Away greece they were just one step away from war last month jerusalem he said is a not a month city thats what he said and look at what itself carcass. Is very active very actively involved here. Hes inauguration speech he talked about turkey and he said some we are some months before thats what he said and in jerky hes been said to be the new sultan he wants to create in the Ottoman Empire that is why hes so active geo politically not to mention a borders with. The. Old and most of fear to federal he decided to turn it into a serving mosque again. So will we be. Reviewing our policies towards in the light of all that youre presuming its well you all we should be. Up to date of your policies as for turkey here we should be taking into account the facts the reality of the situation. With any kind of policy. The proposer knew that we all we should be striving peace not war with the best because war is not an extension of politics because the most there is aggression against you you should try to be listening to politics we say if they dont want to listen to you lavrov they will be listening to show you instead ok i know this i know this joke yeah i was not sure its still you 1st of all i liked he outlined something for you as just good but. Ill give you a couple of Broad Strokes about the situation where you have to be said that turkey is increasingly active in the International Arena today. Strongly but sometimes there are other countries who are even more active and these countries there are thousands of kilometers away. But there are countries which are closer but still the United States is involved in every situation as it plays. With a very substantial role in syria of the United States in undermining the whole u. N. Process of. I mean there is aleutians which have you looked at by the United Nations now the u. S. Is trying to install that kweisi state. In a part of syria so that children. Forces are there on the ground now all the countries in the world have been were prohibited by the United States to buy oil from syria while at the same time an American Companies are allowed to be pumping oil syria and again the u. S. Says that. These parts of these territories in syria should not be in any way as free into the. Legitimate authorities of syria and the kurdish terrorism is another problem. Because and i believe that. There are some certain concerns on the part of to get towards security on his border pansys interests are quite legitimate theyre way more legitimate when the american. Leadership is doing in syria in libya america is also very active very involved on the. Goals in these conflicts are trying to undermine ticket and undermine russia distain time thats what to us openly says its about oil as well but with newt the screen you have to the middle its not a political coup to be a mother should be a concern that ought to be on the move but sure but if you truly preparatory oh it was announced it has been the barge political significance because it the fact that its a private theres also Energy Supplies a political problem and there is a limited settlement of the conflict between israelis and palestinians a stylish the public being in space so the United States everyone always said that its hard sell instead of why this is arab league and we should. Stand. Up against normalization of relations so for its rail with all the arrows but they decided to put its going to have. Hills overhead so it has a 3rd state armalite at the notion that you wage and we have a real ages to square up neighbors and then. 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