Transcripts For RT The Alex Salmond Show 20240712

White men from Case Western University cleveland im from the Nations Capital of washington d. C. The fessor can you should grant him but 1st to alex with your tweets emails and messages in response to last to shew. Now lots of comments that on last weeks show which featured peter oborne and professor veteran he muffy commenting on the the problems the political problems of bloggers johnson the Prime Minister it many says Excellent Program but listening to the predictions of these 2 excellent gas from events over the next year as one measurable prospect and john says 1st time ive watched the Program Welcome aboard john i enjoyed it peter oborne and Richard Murphy were both excellent and alan says sue not referring to the chance of the exchequer his poster boy status is on borrowed time filler says scott their wills will definitely want independence from england before long Martha Mcphee says professor muffy predicted 5000000 unemployed while i mean worth a gem wallace says if that whoever does happen in my lifetime to fell into an independence vote i will go back to scotland vote no and then go back to england i paid many thousands in scottish taxes in my lifetime so i have every right to vote. In the last Scottish Referendum in 2014 which i heard you guys it was a residential vote you had to stay in school wherever you were from to be entitled to vote what it would be like next time if indeed there is a next time when would this have to wait and see about how many from from bangladesh says awesome presentation and discussions well jean says glad to see you by good analysis all we have things stand for the tory party ill keep all the points to hand to see the end result as will we all jean and now back to theres been a. When Prime Minister Boris Johnson was rushed to hospital in London Britain held its breath and the Prime Ministers popularity soared it took months for the hill effect to wear off could the same thing that happened to President Trump or will has succumbing to the virus reinforce the accusation that he and his entourage have not taken it seriously enough until of course they found it knocking at the door of the white house until ordinary americans wonder why they dont have access to the experimental drugs which seem to work the president ial oracle in double quick time attention has also been focused on the event at the white house rose garden to recognize Supreme Court nominee amy corny ballot numerous people who attended this event have already tested positive and events where social distancing seemed very far from their norm so while the president gave a sympathy vote or loose support from those who think he got called it appoint himself will he be admired for has rapid recovery or resented for his Privileged Access to treatment alex is joined by professor joel white of kipp western reserve university cleveland. Joe welcome to the alex salmond show its a pleasure to meet or. First whole business of the press the helicopter of the hospital helicopter vote again announcing that he has defeated covert how is this going to play out in the system or remarkable president ial campaign. It wont make much of a difference i think that part of it is that so many other things have been going on such as his debate performance part of it is that so many people have already made their decisions about whether they like trump a dislike trump i think its slightly hurts implacably in that he will look a bit more like a fool and a hypocrite particularly when he says its not such a big deal after having probably hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of free healthcare from the federal government itll be fairly easy for the democrats to shoot back at that safe you know its not such a big deal if you havent shown and you have a whole government at your command at your command but meanwhile you know the republicans are trying to take away Peoples Insurance and this is a lot bigger deal for those people so i think i dont think you make much of a difference on balance it probably have some just a little but couldnt the present argue well listen we can go i was generally recognized not by himself of course but by lots of people as a loser im of the bit now im not ignored to myself as a aware over covert 19 hasnt he dominated the political agenda i dont think he will certainly make the argument that this shows its not such a big deal and therefore its a government and democrats plot that has caused us to shut down the best economy in history and his survival you know show shows that its not such a big deal but you know he had one of the guests athlete is oklahoma valley guy who mccain film and our public and president ial candidate again he got medical care thats not available to literally anybody given the special drugs they got so its not going to be a really compelling argument hell make it absolutely and i dont think its going to convince anybody who wasnt already convinced by him. So Many Americans may well say i would love to get the sixpenny mental drug cocktail that so miraculously treated the president equal lot of people say what show was present trouble whatever you may say as a fighter these are straw man hes demonstrated that he can recover from anything is not an argument my card is some swear at least of his own base well 1st of all we have to remember that we dont know what is going to happen over the next week with that and trump like many medical conditions people get in bed and then they get worse i know somebody who has a colleague whose father was Getting Better one day and died the next would go over so we have to remember that we do not know how the health story is going to play out this weekend could be a very different look than like now hes been trying to play down the bias all along and he will make that argument but i dont think its going to change anybodys mind i think of all your supporters will buy it and the people who dont like him will not buy the what are the consequences of the press that being dramatically helicopter the hospital was the Democrat Campaign the say to withdraw the attack ads these are the negative advertising principly on television which dominate American Election campaigns it doesnt shore bit of uncertainty in the democrat cambers how to deal with an ailing presently opponent when hes down at something. Yeah its sort of hard to its hard to be sure that the republicans would have done the same thing but remember theres a lot of other halves going on i dont think the Lincoln Project all that that you know the republicans are really disliked and have been running very strong ads against him i dont think they have all their ads its just for a short period of time it gives the democrats in running some positive ads what the heck why not do that for a little while i do not think its a big deal its very hard to think that the ads are going to make much of a difference one way or the other again with how polarized people out right now i have no doubt that joe biden is going to have more people trying to vote for him than donald trump is whether that turns out to biden winning the election is an entirely different story but how do you rate the chances of the the president saying no im the accepting that im im going to cooked im going to challenge the state results im going to im going to challenge it right to the Supreme Court im going to fling the election into the the house as a serious prospect the democrats are no looking for was joe biden right to come a sweep aside in the president ial debate well i think what he was doing in the debate was he was your boss saying this isnt a serious thing in order to make it looks silly go them do democrats think trump is going to do that absolutely and not just democrats i think that many commentators and observers of american politics find it very hard to believe that trump would accept vote counts that say he lost so what really but lets just assume that the opinion polls in america are correct and that joe biden is heading for a victim lets assume that that is reflected in the Electoral College and overcomes all the problems if we look back on the presidency of donald trump it would be at least bill to say that innovative than terms of how he communicated with the american electorate i mean he has a government by by tweet does he not. Yeah absolute of my tweet therefore i am he seems to see himself and validate himself to seems off on social media i think that that trump has shown a couple of things about the presidency one thing is that when you teach about the presidency i teach a presidency course usually talk about things like the formal powers of the presidency and the informal powers of president and how president s get elected and the ways that president s can shape policy you cannot shape policy but trump has definitely set a standard for. Both how to talk about your opponents bypassing the normal media of course he has a huge megaphone and fox news but bypassing the normal media relating to people directly through through social media but really sort of establishing the tone of politics how people think about politics shipping how people think about each other that was going on anyway this this country has been polarizing for a long time a president s can try to work against it or they can try to work for it and one of the most memorable aspects of trumps presidency and aspect of biden is one thing against is the way that trump has helped to find the polity define what our political life is supposed to be like through the attention of the president. So joe i want you to think you are many for facility we saw for a 2nd and well in your crystal ball and tell our audience whats going to happen over the next few weeks whos going away. I dont know who is going to win and i know who is going to have more people trying to vote for him but i do not know how that will play out all of the things that can go wrong favor tom in terms of the popular vote you know the all the obstacles to voting a bigger obstacles to democrats than to republicans the Electoral College clearly favors republicans 538 nate still has analysis website says you know you have biden wins by 3 by 3 percent of the popular on the popular vote than yeah hes favored to win the election but if he wins by 2 he isnt so i really do not know what will happen if i had to guess i would say that that by middle of november it will look like biden won the election and then trump and the republicans will do everything they can to overturn that so come next january whos going to be sitting behind the desk in the oval office boy thats really hard to say because even if you say it ends up being you nancy pelosi vive a lot that wallaby shall tell you no again if i have to guess joe biden but thats with relatively low confidence you know 55 percent in which case joe will be invited to entry in february up and fight you so much for joining me on the all examine show. Join us after the break what im to view professor could be should gun poetry the best in the Nations Capital washington d. C. Theres a threshold at which. Big tobacco realised what they were doing and that they continue to do it big continued to put more and more things into cigarettes that made them more addictive and made me want to smoke more of them and the point im trying to make is that social media in particular these artificially intelligent algorithms are doing the same thing. Welcome back just over a week ago the democrats would be feeling pretty confident on most assessments Vice President joe biden ahead on points after that 1st time with the president ial debate they are feeling equally confident that their feisty Vice President ial candidate sen come on the hottest soul of the rather nondescript incumbent mike pence in the 2nd debate now all calculations are up in the air alex asked professor kmiec should grant how the democrats will handle these unprecedented circumstances welcome to the alex salmond show professor graham. Thank you for having me from a political point of view how this the dramatic events of the last week with the president rushed to hospital and didnt declare himself well and helicopter himself back to the white house how is that going to play out with the american electorate. I think we are ac is playing out a bit with some of the polling numbers changing its been a case that joe biden has the seat a bit of a jump in the polling support from americans as a result of the president s hospitalization and i think there has to do both with kind of the idea of their thoughts when a leader who is well but also with the idea the individuals and not feeling good about Donald Trumps havent gotten cold enough hearing good about maybe some things they think he could have done to prevent getting cold in this instance but the hustle the president gotta an argument i wore a week ago when he was well recognized as the loser in a president ial debate with joe biden now he has declared himself the the winner overcovered 19 is are not a powerful message i think it might be for some people and i think there we are living in a color as time in the United States as other people who support downtown support him fiercely the people who support joe biden support him fiercely and so i think theyre certainly a part of the point of leaving the hospital and going on to the balcony to have a talk with the American Public is to do a straight strength but i also think that this has the potential to backfire hopefully the president remains well but if he doesnt then at the un for him i think the other thing with this creates a bit of a problem is that americans know that he has Different Levels access to care than they have and they still it does demonstrate that he is a winner but i think people still have questions or demonstrate for the moment that he is a winner but i think people still have questions about whether he will be a winner over cold in the long run and whether their lives will be feeling like winning lines following this election. So from the perspective of the democrats in the head in the polls though biffen touching distance of an election victory will the be a tendency over these next few weeks for for Vice President biden to sit on the lead trying not to make mistakes or will they be pushing hard for a convincing victory i think theyll be pushing hard workers in harlem that is different from the democrats then what it is for the republicans as well as a for them pushing hard means having the president the last president maintain conduct on not be so public in space public facing it is in this part because of that but also in part because he has been in the past criticized for some missteps in some misspeak i think that we should expect to see come the harris the act again alan about more publicly in the near future and so at the day yes they will be pushing to get in with a way to just ensure that they win but again as they were there looks like will be different from this for them than it would be for the republicans who i might expect we have the president from center of their push now you mention. The Vice President ial candidate for the democrats who saw the debate the merely hours of the small and how an important figure will she be in the last few weeks of this campaign i think shes an extremely important the critically important i think that the debate performance was important i think that the continuing questioning they will see her conduct with the Supreme Court will be important i think she is an important syria because she can talk she can do so peacefully she does so well and i think the dispatcher to talk not only to the american gut electorate probably but also to people in various looks like black voters and women voters and other kinds of individuals who are like democrats alexy had with analysts in the days leading thats the election clash of present value as a distinguished academic a leading university in america but a young black woman. How do you relate to thinking about this divided society the sort of slightly older White American harbored supporters of donald trump is not the most massive divide them American Society almost 2 Different Countries i think it is but i think the reason it is a massive divide is not to do with me you or people ask me i think theyre black women myself in particular other people who i know like me understand that we have a lot in common with the people who support downtrodden and theyre much of what we face many of the problems that we face or others are as i american in general but there are some americans the americans like the ones you name who dont recognize these problems as problems theyre got crossed the color line they are they think theyre the problem that race is the most important problem in the nation and i dont think that they see places for us to Work Together where i think people like me believe that we better serve the our together against these common problems we have. Im thinking about the president who has many pronouncements and is even more twits it is so anything a tall about the donald that you can relate to in terms of anything he says a vote by any subject i mean it could be said the whole lot of our recent press that it hasnt involved america and many more overseas adventures for example. Senator is no i dont this is so much wrong about the current state of the world that i cant remember a think about anything there is great about it i think to the point that youre asking about this idea that america should be at home and there should should be at home i think there has its place and so i think you know dont stay Foreign Affairs and would not comment tremendously on that but that aint the vast majority of the things i experience in milan and that i am be seeing has been negative during the trial image strange and still to be frank i dont think theyd be as much that i can celebrate about his presidency now of course the Democratic Party after being beaten unexpectedly 4 years ago are fasting for a victory but the country see senator biden as anything more than a transitional figure is not likely as we would say of scotland to set the whole on fire lizzy yeah i think thats a great question and i think that youre right he is probably a transitional figure and i think he knows that i think the democrats have made their peace with their i think a part of the reason that he has such an intense debate about the Vice President who even as president was because everybody understood that a person named Vice President would have a say or to be the president in the next election and so i think that joe biden understands that he will likely not be changing the dual party tremendously that he will be a bit of a stable as of where the nation and i think most democrats and. Joe biden as a candidate is are out of there so are your hopes beyond that we might all be well for the democrats in the election be looking in 4 years time or. A president kemal a hoss. I think that will be the. Day i have learned over the past 4 years the kind and monetary manage my expectations s. Are right now i just want a good clean election with a smooth transition of power and good clean cant for years and then we can deal with after their personally id be thrilled to see that woman as president of United States how do you rate the suggestion has been made them and certainly one which hasnt been outright denied by the president the might be a chance that hell not accept an election defeat would set in the white house would take it to the Supreme Court would challenge various state results is that a real expectation among democrats that the the president is not going to evacuate the the oval office under any circumstances for sure at the democrats are worried about is peaceful transition of power republicans are worried about it too i think only the folks who are the most die hard chunks of workers who support truck over the notion of our democracy are fine with us his comments about fighting the some levels even if seems to be legitimately everybody elses worry about the prospect of him when we are bullied someone else and the alleged. And one final thought professor grant many people watching us run the world for all the criticisms that have been of the United States which have been many still regarded the United States as the shining city on the hill to use the quotation could you say to those people have sought my of america but of had perhaps substantial doubts about the integrity of the american system indeed American Society over these last few years. I think i will say to this and to hat they in the American People there is still a very Large Population of americans who have their heads on straight who understand what it means to be a shining city on the hill who believe in this the marker see and who are willing to work for it and so i think that this election will be kind of a turning point where we get to see who controls power i think many of the people who are the folks who im talking about who want the best for the nation did not believe that the worst was possible did not believe that elections matter they didnt believe that the world has changed significantly or that our nation could change significantly based on who was elected president so i think everybody has been disavowed of those beliefs now that we all understand how important the american presidency is and i think that everybody. Will be doing their best to have their voices heard during this election because now we understand how important. Professor grant from hoed university in the Nations Capital thank you so much for joining me on the examine show thank you for having me. Only one week ago with the president rushed to hospital american political historians were busy researching the name all for discreetly this charting figure of 1000 century journalism and cofounder of the Republican Party find himself campaigning as a president ial candidate against official republican incumbent lisas s. Grant his health feel jittery in the campaign and he died before the late to a college mate now one week later the same political commentators are researching the last of this present trunks dramatic recovery means the tos Health Problems may end up causing more political questions for the democrats 1st because campaigning against an ailing opponent its never a good look or an easy option thus the biting count pane pulled all of their attack ads only to then find that the president had no intention or big oil to combat for a long 2nd because of dollars of brush with his own mortality how defective making the president more vulnerable and therefore more human his rapid recovery means that he now claims to have taken on the virus and overcome it thus the president has find no doubt inadvertently yet another way to dominate the political agenda in the space of a few days has gone from generally a judge loser in the president ial 2020 debate to selfproclaimed the victor of a covert plenty to say any of those turn the contest upside down and turn the underdog president into the favorite perhaps not but equally the many commentators who had all but written him off should reflect on the full impact of this october surprise to end all surprises but for now from alex myself and all that the show is good by stacy i mean hope to see you all again next thank. 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