Hello and welcome to crossfire were all things are considered on Peter Lavelle as election day approaches there are growing concerns whether the outcome will be contested whether the election will be legitimate we are told this election truly matters were always told this however this time around theres a difference feel theres an existential quality to disallow action how many voters will say not my president after november 3rd. To discuss this and more im. Joined by my guest shot in reston she is a political advisor and commentator is well as the founder of republican women for i. D. And in las vegas we cross to rory he is a republican strategist right across the rules in effect that means he can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate what he was going to write in las vegas you know as you sort of heard in my introduction a lot of people are considering this election is the next essential one meaning its you know black and white it is its a bloodsport to the end and give and they and the victor will vanquish the losers here ok thats not a lot of the media has been trained is that a really good idea to do that because the country is already so terribly divided we have these Health Conditions and then there is the questions about balloting here i mean how is that a lot of hyperbole or is there pretty much on the mark rory what do you think you know ive a few weeks ago i may have answered that question with that is a lot of hyperbole yesterday in minneapolis we saw that the brother of a City Council Member was driving around with 300 ballots in his car in express violation of minnesota law which allows for one person have up to 3 ballots on their person or to act as a custodian for up to 3 ballots so i mean you know american politics has become increasingly tribal and i do think there is valid concern by by certain parties i mean the same question to you i mean ive heard a number of these stories here. Of custody issues with ballots and that should make us all very concerned but it doesnt merit the kind of rhetoric that were hearing as we get close to lection day ahead so we have dealt but we. Claim. Oh robert. Several warrants. The Republican Party for example how do you know what i will stop or affirm or who are yours and other. Business where he votes a crime. Or. Because we know that our heart was apples and better we were more confident that the girls are. Really. 5. I remember who got stung who are. Well frankly who. I just want to put it very bluntly have not voters and. We went last but the type of leadership weve had all that can be thought people dont want to go they dont trust the sense that right and no leader has got. To look barack obama here and thats why i think people like constantines because i will if i were very blunt will be here are i was one child or would be helpful for which i can be but i think thats extremely well put because. I think oh you know all of his interested in politics i mean we everyone knows that theres some piddling on the margins ok but it usually doesnt determine the outcome here now or in a situation now where you know you know we may have very Strong Political differences but they need to for the 1st time in my life and example to be out there will be legitimate mean thats a pretty scary thought ok because as i said in my introduction how many millions of people will say not my president after the election and thats it thats even a worse carried not go ahead laurie was the only one candidate in this election has said that they plan to this has said treat em to believe that they plan to contest the outcome of the election and thats joe biden you know donald trump has said that hes going to you know make sure that there were public a National Committee the Republican NationalLawyers Association plans to have lawyers in place to make sure there is a free and Fair Election joe biden in this will his surrogates have said plainly they plan to contest they plan to i are going to rephrase that could just be a collection but not him but not concede if they lose prior to contesting in enclosed states im sure they are preamp. To avoid each their clearing a court battle were all the president trying to said is that he wants to ensure that it is a free and Fair Election and i think there is you know ballot that you know about read write about harvesting about harvesting is a great point youre seeing ballot harvesting across the country even legally on video this week well and then only that really dont you go back to you and say you know we had these elections in new york state and it took weeks to find out be coming weeks ok and thats and thats a blue state so im not im not really sure you know you can point to being read aperitif youre looking at a process here and considering how charged things that things are i mean i guess hard for me to imagine how people are going to feel particularly those who feel strongly about the candidate so be it be willing to wait for days even weeks for an outcome that of course opens up the the possibility that somethings going on that we dont know whats going on and thats going to do throw it out of the out come into it down even more so this is its a process problem here i agree with the party if i was so he had passed out on the entire pot thats right and that takes away from basically the average american that this is a process they can trust because different parties are going to think if i think that what or whom in power for example the republicans are at this point im sorry if that its a credit to ads in present time here but your brain if you are wealthy what whacked out leadership and so no matter what joe bidens doing hes not the current occupant of your office and so its you know whoever was in power whoever occupies office if he wants one and its just such an unusual statement what happened while back we were worried but what president could me if i were one with all our chemistry you know i dont think it would be brought on right i just think its under our ship and so what we. Were is a modern american presence. Reluctance to either. Buy or where i we are our president trump. Who im with a republican rival who didnt vote for her twice because what i wanted a strong dislike for her said already the palms article about what the lives of women like you know today are my children and getting in the middle of my work its chance our lives forever and so the robots are handled right well almost to my point so when i want somebody who is strong if i will follow you know what well that or what happens or have a peaceful transfer of power i will. Out come up with and will accept and im just not hearing what the president top 5 i worry there will be more violence will i mean lets face it you brought up the issue of violence right i really wish some prominent democrats would condemn the violence that weve seen for the last few months in americas major cities here and you just wont do that and i find that to be so disheartening because you know you cant blame what happened to many out there isnt transfer all of that you can blame trump for a lot of things a lot is the president ok but he didnt do that ok but i didnt see democrats pushing back on him and this goes back on the competence thing i mean you know this is this election supposed to be the worse the better it in a bats case its really the worse for the people is not the worst of the politicians. Well it does it has a great point i mean you know read it read it talks about it president trying tacitly being ok with who are the president trying to go ok with violence in the streets ive never heard anything like that from his kids from his campaign what i have seen is is basement has not you know done anything that you condemned the Democratic Leaders in minneapolis can assure wisconsin in these places where cities are literally on fire and you have democratic incumbents in the United States house representatives calling these beautiful protests you. Elected Democratic Leaders saying that caylee not im alone when someone when your house is big arised is White Privilege where is joe biden saying these people dont represent the Democratic Party if we theres actually donald trump 2 dishes that every you know every everything said by every republican i would ask where is the titular leader of the Democratic Party it is a valid elected democrats who are advocating permission the van. You want to reply to that mean you know worried yet you bring up a good quote about that when you look at the person at the top isnt a suspected always right everybody but part of my party is wrong 1st things have been get out of step with me this is on his word these are his action when he had his troops essentially a mix a federal and local law course that pellet the protesters were rubber bullets and tear gas and he wanted to opportunity dont want the church and got a look at where this one was fundamentally wrong thats him using long fauresmith for what he wants to do for his day and im just judging him based on what hes doing i agree with you its unfair to as the leader to disavow everything that everybody in our party hes doing and we should use that same standard for joe biden how can anything or everything will elect a democrat that is because theyre spending you know almost you know giving giving rise to a war by when we were and i agree ive been concerned about pat i dont like lugar is an arsonist or a no and people are peaceful protests that happen in this country i want hallmark of democracy where one of the most beautiful concerns for i have a constitution is our right to go out in the streets and protest there are always going to be bad actors and i think that elected democrat happy look im not a democrat let me just be honest about that im never going for one its all this year and i just think that elected that white house had done enough to disavow that but also its unfair to judge them based on these bad actors and if they were in a moment. Well we just heard in times of war whoa whoa whoa are worried about the problem for him lets never know but were going to win well i think that here because all 3 of us in our viewers im sure are believe in the institution of democracy because it should be same present you know and one person one vote and then you know even then you accept the outcome here and what i find very very disappointing is that you dont have a. Prominent republicans and prominent democrats coming together for the sake of the election itself the process ok because you know what again how many people would say not my president because of the missteps and miss spoken as of the our leaders ill even throw in donald trump fair enough ok but a lot is that stake here and i dont think you know i dont see leadership coming from the Political Class as it were certainly the liberal media as being irresponsible the atrociously here this is a very fragile thing i dont think people understand how easy it is to reduce it rory so i think if the democratic controlled legislature in minnesota colorado and nevada name 3 easy states were not insistent on mailing voters mailing to inactive voters who are uninsured ballot piles of ballots 200 ballots high collecting that apartment about a collecting at a at apartment complexes thousands of ballots going to dead voters if if the legislatures in those states controlled by democrats democratic governors in all of those states if they were putting in place strong Election Security measures and family members of all democratic elected officials who are not flaunting you dont hundreds of the legal ballots and it was clear that the Democratic Party was concerned with ballot integrity and Election Integrity i think that would go a long way and the democrats would be able to claim some moral high ground here theyd be able to say we want to have a safe election because of coat it but we need to act but you. We want to make sure that it is recognized but in no state the republican National Committee has had to shoot in multiple states to keep ballots in mess from being made to enact oftentimes to seem ok on the up point and were going to get it were going to go a short break were going to talk about litigating this election here im going to jump in you know were going to go to a short break and after a short break well continue our discussion on the upcoming president ial elections they are to. Always be polite never engage with a negative a good or confrontational. Dont get into any conversation or start answering questions just ask for an attorney. 5 terror. Definitely dont want to. Jump. Youre more likely to walk free if youre rich. Or if youre poor and. Youve got 2 eyes 2 ears and one mouth. So you should be seen here and a whole lot more in your sand if you dont take that advice easy going to dig yourself. Welcome back to cross talk were all Things Considered im hearing about a minute were talking about the possible problems with the upcoming president ial election. Lets go back to reno. A little gating the election and the 1st part of the program here lets talk about. Is he in your mind you think this is going to end up in the Supreme Court i mean considering the hyperbole weve heard in all of the threats and they repaint no concession where is your army of lawyers your lawyers you know your players here i mean its in the making its happening as we speak ok and we have of course we have only 8 justices on the court there is theres a high possibility a great possibility that well have a 91. Before the election here you think were going to need that 9th i judge considering whats going on at the empty names in the election well heres what weve been calling where its our convention when you go to when we step up with anything when we were to well you might be calling we were brought here by golf balls for instance very much nothing back and i mean in swing states where same dynamics change as well and so i think its anyones guess but we said be prepared to go to the highest court in alaska were only 5 sacks oh i do projects are one of the sides bought by southwest and determine where we were going to happen because i was where we gone during question gore in florida but i feel high because its really kind of you know his when we go with our brave home in chad and so. I mean as well as my like im fat and im going very well for about a chair because i want it even to. Court my friends who are plants a boat or president talking bad which i want to live im supporting joe biden for 5 friends who were he deserves a reelection theyre worried you know so its over so you can point theres no telling where were going across this and are ok you know getting a good look i mean i think theres one thing ok im willing to agree with you because the polls were enough werent as bad is everyone says but they were often up to really missed election which is you know its not you cant we didnt you know that you were president. Ok so we so we have that you throw in the whole way there is the shy trump voter out there thats a real phenomenon and its a very rainy day and then you have this liberal media that is invents things left right and center makes accusations claims and then theyre never held to account and people believe a lot of these Horror Stories and its the detriment of the democratic process ok and then we throw in the Supreme Court here. I certainly believe theres nothing wrong in my mind im a conservative i dont have anything to do with the g. O. P. Im a conservative but you know i look at trump at face value and his tweets i wish he would stop tweeting ok its not to his benefit ok anyway but theres nothing in and ive seen from him that youre going to have to get the military and remove him from the oval office i mean i thats just simply absurd ok i mean if he loses and he loses in the Supreme Court well hell start his own network and you know right or fox and youll be right back in the game ok so you come down everybody look at ari i dont i dont think the Supreme Court will have to get involved i dont think this will be election will be decided in litigation if you look at all the polls right now in all the suing states even states like nevada which i would call you know sort of 2nd tier swing states theyre within 2 points right so i think what has happened is in the in the final weeks and possibly in the debates you know there will be a clearly decisive momentum for either of the 2 candidates and which will give each either the true candidates or by 2 or 3 points enough to carry enough of the swing states where within the Electoral College it is not close it may be close in a lot of individual states but in the Electoral College it will not be close enough to to make any sort of reasoned contention you know i mean one of the things i think we can draw up i mean and because i do see that its going to be extremely problematic come november 3rd i mean theres going to be delays there. Some states he can count on mail in ballots when you get them in other states you can only count them when the election is over and you know every single there are 50 states there are 50 different ways of doing it apparently here but isnt that something that we really should learn from you know the voter rolls and things like that i mean i used to live in california and every single election there was a scandal about voter rolls because you know theyre overly purged under purged you know it is this really a wake up call we want to avoid this kind of rancor the country doesnt need is it this should be a concerted effort to really get the election machinery much more uniform without violating states rights im a conservative but we should have we should have comfort when we go in vote if we vote by mail or through proxy or in person then we dont have to worry about this because we already have shenanigans all over the place and we hope that the mechanism itself is already in the it needs a a 2nd look or 4th or 5th how many times it takes to make sure people have confidence would you agree with i am glad you bring that up here d because this isnt something that we are probably talking till the wee Morning Hours bob this is a hot assume that most americans do not wear well i mean for our actions or lots of where we have been talking thats what im all for that he pointed out we did not do the right i wanted to go right up to 20 things didnt think you know what we need for running towards our elections more secure because we know there was going to hear at some 24 hours. Or what sort of that however we know who the impact possible to last very long so. If you dont look at how are we going to our job. In my house it was were going to have a quality where we talk about how hes going to go out if he were. Well there you go tinker with whatever we want to make use of for people without were going to love all our elections were here and watch whats working and what we do will stop this country and said come from the federal government i believe and what im not im concerned is where i think the federal government releases on the how the other approach was why we got where we thought it was our. Money im securing our actions we might not be in such a hard. When we just what about what will happen because people are scared of the whole process so again were being done to secure the profit as well more information and how the causes can be more of both and that was i got of americans voting. I know i just did just a tiny bit there im much more worried about people in the United States flipping states in counties that you know that ok is that proving people in charge should be glue gun to prison for it ok so but you are your point yes i agree with you 100 percent and i think its something theyve done is actually not that difficult to understand it is not brought up very much ok i dont you know it sounds to vote so you know you know we used to believe it was dispassionate you know now theres growing suspicions you know in the end with good reason and we need always always need more and more transparency thats the solution to this more transparency really dont have very the fact that rita found a way to attack them and not the majority leader here though is quite skillful and i guarantee you you get every single vote in a Republican Senate and as much federal funding as anyone wanted voter id if you require an i. D. To vote as part of that bill every single republican in the senate would be on board but they fact all democrats do not want to shave them. Our elections they dont i mean there are laws in many states that that you know theyre its technically not fraud because its legal but event but it vantage questionable voting states where states where you can vote by bringing a lease that was signed yesterday in the state of wisconsin you know i think there are so again if the true concern was an Election Integrity show when i get to vote and every single republican vote the senate would be on board but were in i call that legal fraud ok is it its legal fraud here you know i mean i guess there is no exactly by the way if youre a conservative like myself here i mean you know if you need i. D. To get on an airplane if you need i. D. Keep it. Open up a bank account i dont understand why you dont need id to go vote youre assuming that you know i mean and im not trying to be discriminatory here happens i know in my my time ive known countless number of people that have immigrated to the United States that are very proud americans and theyre very proud that they can vote because the country they came from they didnt have a fair vote and so having that id be saying im an american citizen i can vote you know how prideful people feel that way i know a lot of people the left dont ok but i know a lot of people that feel that prime that that is such an important right for them that so Many Americans actually take for granted go ahead were well i want to go to the government im going to grow you know why why i want my korobochka here not cause i want to see what general clark and peter its like that people who are you know what people who dont live with their parents and go through all the who all the. 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Someone who want to combine the 2 out of 41 who summon a lot of people who think you know what they want is power thats what they want ok its not because oh well he works hard i mean you know he pays taxes he shouldnt write a book well thats a thats the courts should decide that ok you are on the fact of the matter the fact of the matter is is its a decision she it gives you certain rights if you do not have citizenship you do not have those rights ok its one of the very few rights you dont have any living in america here so you know for me in the in the way the democrats lately in liberals say its for democracy no its for their own power ok thats what they want and they want to change the electorate thats what they want to do and thats why we need to have these clean elections because theres going to be half the countries are going to say and i mark my words i feel very strongly about this theyre going to say we got cheated ok we got cheated ok asking Bernie Sanders a supporter what it feels like and they did it to him twice ok all right last 20 seconds go to rory there in las vegas. I mean i agree with your point that without Fair Elections without clean elections there is going to be a plenty of people who say that we got cheated i am hopeful that you know whichever Campaign Wins you know provided it is election free of fraud free you know free of tampering that i believe there will be if not a peaceful transition of power and that is the will of the voters oh yes and in this country for your money and rina fingers crossed that people want to be. My guess and rest in las vegas want to take our viewers for watching us here argue see you next time remember us. The world is driven by shaped by one person. Who dares thinks. We dare to ask. My newest succubus on the world social media this is jack see what i dont see its. A bit over the. Open and now weve got to get it out. Because you dont need to move because you know the nazis speech and i use that down sixtys to make any babies you know suits me school on drug use to people. Who. Among us. 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