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Some real important things going on in the world today on this program and i want to talk about sanctions mania because this is all too familiar marcus it is a political weapon that is a kin to war. It is an assault on the spot where you know these countries are and as i said in my introduction here you know its never explained why it is in the National Interest why civilian populations in these designated countries are punished repeatedly and to know that it doesnt have any pull the real political outcome except for on the ground misery oh hemmer well with the well once cast as i would say its and indeed distracted by what is now 19 the American Government has continued its aggression on the International Stage and continued to suppression on the basis its a move we have seen in recent days is. Washington impose new sanctions on a cuba venezuela and iran hands i believe peter that we really need to see these new sanctions true. Russia. How are all of the International Say yes on the one hand and the americans do want to take action against the aforementioned countries they will answer bring down the governments their classes and turn those countries to how they were trying to do the revolutions in those countries namely vassal states of america and i believe on the other hand the most important reason is that the americans are shreiking back against russia and doing so i guess free of russias most important allies and friends in the world as russia has a Strategic Partnership with iran russia has a strategic arms ship with. Russia is a work in all establishing a strategic arms youre cheered as a soviet union hastur in the cold war and the americans understand that there are also lots of jets in syria has being defeated the americans know there is no chance of the Syrian Government being overthrown so here americans are looking to target russias allies and friends in the well i dont see a 2nd program here you know you know team in the in again looking at the 3 countries that we mention your keep the venezuelan interest. Theres always this pretense of some kind well drop sanctions if you do x. Y. And z. Once in 3 but if you look at every single example well talk about syria the 2nd half of the program is basically full submit surrender and then we will drop the sanctions here it doesnt work that way thats not what diplomacy is all about an audience lee it is a. Pretense to force regime change we all know what happened to libya the north koreans know what happened to libya here so i mean that this is such a blunt. Tool for political change and there in there is no the the the the the character part of it is never really explained and thats why these these countries and in their governments of feel threatened because there is no alternative its one way its one way or my way or the highway and that is that is and thats not the way you can you know reasonably work the International Order go ahead you know youre absolutely right the sanctions is basically a continuation of a war by on the means you know qualms it is used to say that war is a continuation of 46 by on the means while its definitely sanctions is not diplomacy and these has been sad of many discussions that bombed ike wobble denies the Russian Global Affairs magazine organized and the west anatomist most of them agree but they cant do anything about it because the west and for important she is ideological. And this is the problem because if the United States Foreign Policy had been pretty magic look we had wonderful articles in the magazine called. American conservative embargo and the way basically the spread of course we are in now in iran threatens the u. S. Nationals in afghanistan in pakistan in many neighboring countries but nevertheless you know mohammad german sorry for the foreign minister or what youre on he just recently gave an interview to our viewers you said because we cannot transfer money we cannot also pay for that big scene for any kind of medicine against compete the same story with minister. It was proven beyond doubt that the spread of course weed in business well threatens us national you know because the disease spreads to the United States many other countries however they havent done anything about how been given your salmon government to fight the disease and they have basically destroyed the country by sanctions no they did it only i dont you think its a its fair to say that theyre using covert as a political d weapon against these governments i mean in thats unconscionable its a conscionable shes an old pandemic as a Political Tool mark is im good at it i mean do you want to finish the i just just to finish up i agree with marcus duff now russia is moving towards partnership with iran and with cuba and i think its a wise move but please bear in mind that russia joined the u. N. Sanctions against iraq and i think it was basically an expression or an willingness to have confrontation we believed in a different world during the ninetys during the early 2000 and he did to be clear here a lot of the hooked up to marcus no i mean russia did join other members the United Nations Security Council on sanctions to to how it ran into that negotiations about its Nuclear Ambitions really what ringback it did that. It would have let me then we got an agreement and then the Drug Administration walked away from it so i think that you know you can you can comment russian Foreign Policy for pushing a Diplomatic Initiative which ive said repeatedly on this program and not to the markets right now repeatedly on this program that i meant the Obama Administration doing exactly that its walking away from it that im critical of go hemmer. Is a friend of the Russian Federation in the i. C. I. Seasonal so it is serious and disagree so United Nations Security Council. So measures be an employers on iran and i will say this there are quite a number of also Russian Diplomats who privately were not happy with that but in tracy trend see if russia is very different russia to retreat is not pursuing a Strategic Partnership or ground russia has a Strategic Partnership with iran over lathrop an Iranian Foreign minister has said and also remember that hes now prepared to supply state of the art in systems to iran previously would not do because of his radio attraction as the russians are now putting aside israel your taxes and they have prioritized a relationship we have iran over israel and i think just returning to sanctions sanctions are one of the most potent weapons in americas phone policy also and what i hear with dmitri says about kerry for people who are suffering from what is known as kerry night say that its a shame in the american policymakers have any feelings have any of morals about humanity and also in economic terms it makes far more sense for the americans to bring her out crusading venezuela and iran and through that to take control of the economies there so that is why the americans are placed in sanctions and i think ultimately they are talking to investors friends and allies in the us as a way we can a loss resurgence on the International Stage getting you know to. Be the trumpet ministration is kind of created this kind of false binary in my opinion is that this maximum pressure is a substitute for going to war because frank did say that he would not start any more silly stupid wars ok and you know what today he hasnt started anything however as weve all agreed on this program here same sions is another means of warfare and you know that the most glaring one. Right now is that is venezuela how in the world in this way when its a threat to american National Interest is a mystery to me ok but that goes to the point that marcus was making there do is that i mean john bolton even said that you know when he was a national Security Council advisor that American Companies are interested in Venezuelas Oil if we see it was friends their own head. Well i mean in the United States colonial or no corn you know for you see you know it in america is nothing new and bad as it is it would not be tragic you know but whats going on right now is indeed tragic because well trumpery presents crewed american nationalism he didnt start a new wars not because he was peaceful but because ironically it even the more war prone you know liberal interventionist for a and his attempts to stop at war with iran to start a war with syria you know they were all business fraid to try would get all the benefits of victory and then he would be left in for another 4 years so surprisingly mere accuracy in him a demon i mean what is dick cheney here i mean you know we can go particularly particularly since the end of the cold war its been destructive failure after another year i dont think anyone is worried about winning and people are worried about how bad we dont want to lose thats what were going to be youre youre youre absolutely correct you know factually you are correct war with iran would be disastrous if its you know its corn sequences would be unpredictable but please remember were out you know put into them you asked for importance you need you are not to walk into pragmatist youre not talking to people who base their position on facts they base their own idea all it and then i dont which it is you that the Iranian Regime is weak in some popular people are against well basically Something Like that probably existant in the 90 s. Or in the ages you know but indeed many young people in iran who are against the government but the United States by invading iraq and making iraq what it is no she dont have spirit inside during in society so the United States on it has itself to go. Same for that the car and we all know that these sanctions only strengthen the governments that were the sanctions have directed against it so counterproductive and there is no learning curve here when it comes to sanctions all right gentlemen im going to jump in here were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on some real news with our. Money with 2nd on the on social media thats exactly what i dont see its a. Bit on you know. What you know weve got. To cause you cant move. You know. The speech and i used to make it a very easy no food to eat school i try to teach to people. Who people who come to clubs do really hes trying to fit life in music that. I was because he makes me happy i love he does because he makes me happy playing with. And when you get to. Be. Because its backed up my. Love. Im sitting out. There i doubt. Were all things are considered im Peter Lavelle remind you that were discussing some real. I want to so we go back to you in london here it seems patently clear if you look at the Foreign Policy adviser surrounding joe biden and of course the the the Foreign Policy establishment that is a government in the trumpet ministration you know they just cant let syria go can only they just cant let it go and every time you ask them why are we in there why are we in syria which we know is the illegal under International Law countries like russia have been indicted under International Law based on the United Nations charter here but when you asked a Foreign Policy well why were in syria they can never give you the same answer twice can. Oh peter the reason why the americans in your worse complex syria who is because washington has a thought host specific lee a military and he can only accrue holes in the north east of the country and the americans as in days the russians and the iranians and other countries in the world understand that syria is or immense cheer strategic importance and it was i do not believe that there will be any attempt by the americans in new faced syria to. The atrocities of the syrian army backed by the Russian Military and youre a military because of course i doing so you that could bring your house confrontation with russia but i do believe that the americans have no intention whatsoever of relinquish in their foothold in office syria because i mean americans being in syria does through trainings firstly it limits syrias own influence and power in the middle east because there is a foreign army in syria and secondly and so a lesser extent it does it limits russias position in the middle east why because syria is as it has been since the cold war is russias always and its not just in the middle east and in fact for caps and for the russians because the americans are in syria does somewhat. Limits their own position in the middle east but nonetheless i think what we will see is unless the kurds and the americans full house and i dont see any evidence of that happening i think the american states it would feast syria all the parts of the movie syria which they control offensively into or into an american protectorates well let. It would be strongly at odds with most of the world things here i mean you know the things that the Foreign Policy seem to forget or willfully forget is that it was the it was the Syrian Arab Army with the assistance of iran and russia that destroyed because of it i mean i know trump thinks the credit for whatever it took the Russian Air Force 25 planes and 6 weeks to do it the american stood by for years and watch the caliphate grow ok and actively encourage it one way or another proxies ok but you know in the in the theyre worried about irans influence in syria well by form entering this proxy International War against the government of damascus they brought in the russians they brought in the uranium so you know what and the iranians and the russians have done more to fight the taliban then any western power ever has and no one in washington wants to admit that simple truth go ahead. Well i think you know im sorry in your 1st development on your 1st question i would see that the United States and the e. U. Will not create insisting on change in the regime in syria its a general problem you know these you will tell you bill outre liberal ideology when they adopt a soap a narrative they just dont let go of it you know russia gate im sorry for the americans youre going to hear him pounded for the next i dont know how many years until the idea what we do in the country changes the same story about wesen inks you know just recently it was revealed and not the opposition member you know over russia who claimed to have been poisoned by the russians but even koran was up you know he is more skewed against m. P. I. For not believing him that he was poisoned was turned down so he it was officially not poisoned and we hear the same story. Boys owns his opponents you know and they will not then go and this is the core you know the principle of that Foreign Policy machine and watch your step about syria no lets get the facts st i will give you the exact numbers you know before the Russian Aviation stop and operating in syria in september 2015 for 11 months the socalled just one extended had to be in supposedly borne out by the United States and their allies and the problem was that the sliming state just kept spray didnt it kept in lodge in the 3rd is that it controlled this intrusion on it changed the russian stopped an order and there are for the benefit of our viewers here the the the Bombing Campaign by the United States in its own eyes it didnt go after isis it destroyed the state it the structure of syria that was the intention is to create a failed state so on the other side russia syria in its own lies they destroyed the talented and to save the infrastructure of the country diametrically opposed agendas and you may want to save some yeah you know it just proves of on what im what we said in the beginning of the program if you will if you dont believe that the United States destroyed the infrastructure of syria look who it is keep in syria under sanctions now we have been saying that sanctions is a continuation a would by other means the United States and the e. U. No you know despite the country being destroyed despite it being in red just after that civil war they continue maintaining sanctions against syria its on her and oh i mean i dont remember any example in history when a country would be destroyed and now the war it would be making the destruction you worse by not allowing to supply of oil by not to allow it to supply me. So this is all terrible bob you know im talking about who destroyed what we know their narrative for the western media it was the opposite of what you just said peter they said the prophet is not wont be an isis the trash is born bin civilian or objects in it in syria here i want to quote peter falk former u. K. Ambassador to syria he has interviewed 2 sputnik like the socalled rebels who want to set the dire have been using mosques horse patrols schools asking the mandan control centers are of course when syrian president Bashar Al Assads boards these command and control centers its a human uteri an outreach you know when asa wants them its an atrocity it went to court u. S. Led coalition warps you know the force but those and and and schools its just an accident its just bad luck if they kill civilians and it was make it a mistake you know youve been directly in the oic the former u. K. Ambassador to syria its not saam lane and telling us that it in mark is the interesting thing for me here is that in the trunk a it either hes an able or unwilling to get the right people around him to have american troops withdraw from syria when he then the people that want to promote this intervention there if indeed they did this want to be the Decision Maker theyre waiting for the pieces on the board to get into a certain situation where they can impose their will thats the only understood other than obviously not allowing syria to build and thats just out of spite because that hurts the civilian population but. There is no real coherence other than we dont have a plan so were just going to sit in wait it out and see if we can determine outcomes you agree with. Oh let me 1st of all places to say when i sit in a press gallery in the house of commons and hear mrs and backbench a pace say who air force. Took the lead rope into showing how qaida and isis in syria i sit back and sire with despair then coincidentally i so much so well they say they know theyre not telling the truth they know affectively the Russian Military destroying profile kite and i says its there but no british minister british happened member of parliament is going to credit russia with that because that would go against the official narrative in britain and also in america. There is a threat to the west to western civilization in syria yes i have no doubt that there were there are people around. Who likes to see its very keen action more definitive action in syria and i have to say peter now under leave iraq paula. Did not have people around him dictating to hear what his approach to syria should be i have said this on cross so before and i keep on saying its real people in power in america and not the ones you see on the television yes an american presence has tremendous power was when it comes to for example health care but i refer to the fundamental core areas in american politics you know American Economic times in an American Military and those people in my opinion for the permanent unseen governments and it doesnt matter who sits in the white house. Well what i said laying their direction. No matter whos in the white house or impulse the plot is determined to continue a benji even syria and indeed i agree your sentiments there. Was not. Time here i think theres no good reason to believe that the bike ministration is going to act that he differently as a matter of fact the need be even more aggressive in considering the Foreign Policy quote unquote experts that by his surrounding himself with. Joe biden might be the obama that might say yes to war intervention in syria last minute goes. Well i think it will be streamed to dangerous see if joe biden comes to power because then. Bomb us Foreign Policy would be continued and please remember the 4 main wars which are now destroying mankind they were all started under obama the war in yemen the war in syria the war in ukraine. And the war in libya you know there well it all started under obama so who by the return spoke of the same story again just a small. 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