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Youve got an incredible amount of passion and energy in your music and in your art and that really comes through and someone watches you perform like we just did i mean truly an inspirational so i really want to start with asking you who is the 5 defy is and see music producer artist educator from albuquerque new mexico representing the denomination defies also if you broke it break it down into acronym could be definitely eternal or def eternal forever inferno or definitely eternal forever internal short for definition rare. If you look at a sonic leaking chi chi 55. 00 and somewhere in there is that 5 or more to defy the 5 began probably in my middle school time and ive stuck with the name ever since so what like what was your inspiration and experience that. Led you to bring you know hip hop spoken word hip hop and traditional native American Culture together in your are like what brought those 2 forces together. I think it would be a combination of livin in a urban and rural area and environments as a youth wasnt raised primarily on from a traditional side nor. You know the other side of things so basically. As a use my grandparents on my maternal side they really instilled a lot of wisdom when i was at a lesson my mother also taught me how to read and write before i could walk so they gave me a good leading start to begin with in middle school id say about that time i got introduced to hip hop culture as far as like to be boys be gross i 1st started i seen a direct similarities and connection between hip hop culture and my traditional culture as a dinette person and that both of those connections led me to kind of combine both together what were the real errors of value. For instance as a dinette person we have 4 clans were very matrilineal culture and our reservation this around about 4 sacred mountains for sacred directions a lot of these numbers stood out to me and for the hiphop 4 Main Elements to it. One of the main connections that really led me to become connected we have is. The philosophies too as well like our people were not very judgment on this much for the most part and hip hop kind of is and is a universal culture to me so without having to look at someones skin tones practitioner can practice the ceremonies and feel like that was inviting for me a lot of times it was hard to find acceptance growing up there in new mexico where im from so hip hop was there so i always carry my Cultural Heritage with me. Its interesting you you raised over a 1000000 dollars a big number you raised the room 1000000 dollars to help the water protectors of Standing Rock when that went down what was your inspiration for stepping forward and saying you know what im going to use my are going to use who i am and what i do to raise money for those people out there putting you know putting their lives on the line and standing. You know i was a part of the fund raising i didnt do it entirely myself ive got to give credit to the collective crew family which you say of. Hip hop practitioners people who are just there to help and you know we we all together fund raise over a 1000000 dollars in one night via hip hop concert by texting water at this certain number you able to leave a monetary donation just a little back story with that but i started out as a battle rapper a 1st and i steam the entertainment value side of that but after a while i realized that i could apply myself in much more useful ways or much more impactful ways rather than battling someones head to head why not try to go towards a system instead and try to wake up and defy the system sort of speak and. Thats kind of how defy started i did a song when i 1st was inspired as these hydraulic fracturing zones were getting closer and closer to my homelands where my grandparents are from and some nasty new mexico its very rural at that point in time i realized that i needed to apply myself as an mc a music producer towards the much larger issues that and then just battle rap so i stepped outside of the box and wrote this song called the land of in fact me and thats kind of a flip on the on the slogan of our state and just to expose and also raise awareness of all these atrocities that are happening throughout draw that fracturing zones in our areas and from that point on ive just been helping hand as part of the many different movements for the Indigenous Peoples movement and many others as well but thats probably the most that was a that was a beginning you know after hearing your music and like i mentioned earlier that passion that you have that like just bleeds out of every every verse every bar every word i really want those like how do you sit down when you sit down the writers write a song you know like what is that process for you when you sit down and say ok you know im going to write about this issue of fracking or im just going to you know write some fire to get people jumping up about like what how do you tackle that how do you go approach each song each song is kind of approach very differently but for the most part im writing on. My lyrics behind the drivers seat i know its a little risky but where im at is very rural areas i could drive out and enjoy the scenery. And be out of the city put on a instrumental usually the beep guides 1st take out my beats through different producers go from there and so youre literally like right behind the wheel of a car in a beautiful new mexico. Theyre painted sky and landscape or youre just sitting there listening to examine and write them out yeah exactly a lot of times ill freestyle to think of the ideas and then just put it down on paper. Who are some of your inspirations and your pa. Many inspirations i guess from my youth the 1st hip hop song i probably would have heard was probably a run d. M. C. Or chill raji track and as far as emceeing goes theres so many different amazing talented mcs that have inspired me just to name a few. Big pun big. Care as one percy p. Micah 9 a free stuff fellowship evidence the dilated peoples those are very influential artists and thats a good variety and you can see that not reflected in your work and said supplied you dont feel bad but you can definitely feel that the style you know and i think you know one of the things thats interesting true is your work you work a lot with young people you know and. You know how has your work with those young people how was that inspired the music and the art that you create the youth of always inspired me since the beginning and especially when times when i guess an artist may get tired of war now from trying to continue working with the youth has been very inspirational because they provide so much support 1st of all they keep things brand new and fresh for me i dont get worn out or i dont complain a lot a lot of people say like how do you keep going and not complaining about being on the road all the time. Well just going back home and doing youth outreach it just makes me i get happy true happiness by working with the youth i was always raised in a classroom setting i come from a family of educators and healers so ive always been in the classroom since i was a kid my mom has been a teacher and a big inspiration for that so when people ask why are you so connected to that it was its just kind of just who i am and was brought up that way and raised that way. Working with the youth also gives me a sense of purpose thats much deeper than. Working for just myself for what would you say monetary gain or certain things like that or some are just going for the fame like thats never really been a focus of my. Hip hop practitioners and feel like i have a responsibility to give back and thats what i really focus on that its a big focus of part of my mission couldnt afford the jaw a magazine 44 and a 4th that joan ordered school woman a boarding school forced the move got chores and more sports in a dorm but only one course of fire chief kept the wood burning before morning outside the house early at 440 past the she broke on the floor by the door when the dormitory escaped out of corporate doors and explore pony here to take it back home because ya not the president to scrub the present not your face and scrape the white the residue resume like beams of people resonate with resolute sacred able to cope with all the pain that we soak in the next generations of welcome but before the preservation was a home you know the nation was stolen but im in a sweat lodge seeking a vision its like im back out the boom dreamin that grandmother moon in the fetal position. A new gold rush is underway in. The flocking to the gold fields hoping to strike it rich. As. Children between. Back to school will have the strongest appeal. Stacey. Im not sure i get. The fight. Thank you for. The story thats right. Slavery. You just get. Back in the 6. With your feet. Get the free. Without proper credentials props 1st. Class. So they dance with. This is. A sentiment that. Runs. From. The credit. Headed. To the ram. Dass. To. The. End of my shoe. With the ball she said to get back but you could still feel he would probably want to rock to the precipice and ill be gone you got it you dont call me once so my heads up on the ball when. The young you pick the moment the liberal says how do you think ill put that picture back to your head that when this prejudice applies that its wrong. A lot of people i think especially who are part of the you know the indigenous population here in the United States who are part of the native American Community of the tribes and things like that you know i think theres a lot of misconceptions out there you know. What do you feel are some of the biggest misconceptions that people have about your culture and where youre coming from. Yeah when im out and about far away from home i can sometimes sense. That people look at us as were almost not even human beings in certain instances not everywhere i go but there are some places what i can look at somebody and just take a quick glance and they almost look at me with some type a sense of resentment that there are people out there who believe that. Were only one kind of people i mean theres so many different tribes that exist here in the country and were all very different a lot of times people to like you know were sitting here at a bar a lot of times people think that were just alcoholics myself. Ive been over like 6 years alcohol free and like theres many of us who never even drank or did drugs before so thats another misconception people believe that were all poor but were really were very rich in culture tradition Cultural Heritage a lot of people also believe that. Every tribe gets per capita are like we were helped out are like where we get a helping hand no matter what was really not the case sometimes when you come to the deep parts of the reservations or the most rural areas i think a lot of people in music they only see the big names in the big lights right like theyre only used to see in the cat on the m. T. V. Or the cat on the cover of a magazine things like that but that its a bigger world than that ive heard to describe sort of like you know if you become in if i dont artist at a certain time you can you know either be in it for monetary gain and be like this was to be considered as a rapper but i consider myself more as and see and i think that allows myself to be more Community Based and not a selfserving entrepreneur more like you know im here of service as well for. Representing myself my family my friends but also the culture of hip hop and that sense of pride in me being proud of who i am as an as it in that manner and also as and see it gives me strength but also gives me direction to what im actually doing here with the music hip hop is. Save my life so. Me being me being part of the culture is like just i mean i want to contribute just as much as i can chip papas help to mean so when they sort of save your life how did hip hop save your life. Hip hop save my life. Through the friendships and bonds and through the practice of itself i feel like as i was working on these skills the skills were also working on me to become a better person and started out as a homeless artist and if it was. For the Hip Hop Community or the hip hop scene at that time i wouldnt have had a place to stay i wouldnt have had. Food and just basic survival needs so the Hip Hop Community has been there for me since day one and what advice would you give you know or a younger person in similar shoes to you who phys finds that spirit finds that voice you know through music. For myself i mean why are our tribe deals with a lot of energy enter a tional trauma or trauma that. Just water freezes testy water but thats because its not like fries its just sort of the magic pot thats like to make these plastic ones looks like something you want to present the street ill head up but dont get caught up in a trap thats a set up somewhat doubtful because our style theyve been based in its at the foot of the truck the field with the bob exam a satellite truck is no surprise that medicine is still spinning in his pocket its a box they could give up in a bid to distract if they dont have a very hysterical types of beverage comparable to fight terrorism cab that you might say never your flight back to the docks the same rapid pull back from the signal by deciding on him you do have. You know political nature what youre talking about because i think a lot of what you rub about a lot of what you or your songs are about you know they like to mention with fracking and things like that you know you put those those flavors in there how important is music to changing. Politics or changing in issue or attacking an issue or making people aware of an issue like how important is music to. Feel like music can inspire and empower many people and i feel like if the messages there that. Or you look at it like the last song that you did for like the last song that you did for us thats such an enlightening song and its such a powerful song using the mix of you know your heritage and your people as well as the drum beat and then the hip hop flavor in the archipelago you know you know that song has about that song teaches as a tribal person you kind of grow up loving the environment and thats it and thats inside you already instilled so. Doesnt make you a politician sort of speak but the issues the politics that you know surround and they directly relate to our lives and way to live so. Its a responsibility for me to create music that. Inspires and helps empower others because i was just in spy. Ardens empowered from hearing music from a lot of a greats and legends of hip hop pioneers is that its a continuation is your right you know its a beautiful continuation. I want to finish up and ask you you know when you look at your career and you look at where youre going you know youre only 33 years old youve got a long career in front of you got a lot more music to write a lot more beauty to produce on this world what do you what do you imagine or what do you hope your legacy years with your music and who you are. And i got its fired from reading something i think from karas warner somewhere where hes making music for the future generations creating a catalog that can last and also transcend generations i would like for my music to help inspire future generations and also help anybody in need who. Who feels alone or phils. Depressed i mean. I make music just to help a lot and i do make music just the likes i do have track i just befire not really. Just focus on a specific concept but its hard to see the ripple effects of us sometimes because were just moving and moving and moving and moving and i hope to look back one day and be able to. Thrive with my music career but also really its a money give back tenfold as much as i received i mean ive seen my hip hop has been there since the beginning so its hard for me to say what i really want out of it its hard to describe man i just sometimes that the music speaks for itself. And that ladies and gentlemen is our show for you to day thank you all very much for watching and remember in this world we are not told that we are loved enough so i tell you all i love you i am tyrrel but i keep on watching those hawks and i have a great day and night everybody. I. Suppose it was. Just before. Last time we chased. Each one of them carrying 20 kilos d of drugs. First offense to. Leave just the boy. In the 3 will remain there all morning. This is for me. I dont know maybe i dont get a. 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